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Nov 10 2022
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In April, 2022, Greyhound moved the bus "station" from the long time Magnolia Avenue location to Cherry Street, which did not turn out to be a good location.

In October, 2022, Greyhound moved the bus "station" to 1607 North Sixth Avenue, Knoxville, TN, where there is the "Top Market and Deli".

Greyhound is going to have to move the bus "station" once again.

On Oct. 10, the city informed the owner of the Top Market at Grainger Avenue and North Sixth Avenue that it wasn’t zoned to allow for a commercial bus stop. Greyhound had been using it only a few days when the city issued notice.

"Knoxville Area Transit has evaluated the possibility of Greyhound leasing space at its downtown transit center, but that site does not have the capacity to accommodate both KAT and Greyhound when city buses are running most of the day."

Once again, "It is kind of sad how Greyhound can't get a decent depot in Knoxville. They say they can't accommodate Greyhound at the "John J. Duncan, Jr. Knoxville Station, state-of-the-art, LEED-certified transit center" that was only built 12 years ago in 2010." On top of that KAT has cut back on bus services. Not much growth planning.

jbr's picture

How about they lease pickup

How about they lease pickup space from city in parking area under I-40 downtown. Or in parking area under James White Parkway.

Some things the station seems to ideally have....
Covered area in central location
Close to KAT stop of some type
Restrooms
A restaurant of some sort close by (Maybe food trucks that rotate being at stop during opportune times)

Or could they pay the city a fee to pickup/dropoff at or very close to, Market Square garage? It haas a public restroom. Let Greyhound pay city the cost of the restroom.

fischbobber's picture

A good idea

That's a really good idea.

michael kaplan's picture

Yes.

Yes, it's an excellent idea to put that vast, expensive, paved space created by SmartFix I-40 to some use other than parking a few cars.

jbr's picture

Greyhound relocates its Knoxville bus stop again

Greyhound has relocated its Knoxville bus stop to the third site in two months, this time to 100 Kirkwood St., at the intersection with Martin Luther King Jr. Ave.

On Tuesday afternoon, Greyhound passengers were waiting at the bus stop, which has a Knoxville Area Transit shelter along the sidewalk but no available restrooms.

Greyhound relocates its Knoxville bus stop again

Contact And Directions For Knoxville Area Transit Bus Stop In Knoxville, Tennessee

bizgrrl's picture

Interesting location choice.

Interesting location choice. In a beauty shop parking lot, across the street from a bank and a big church.

Will it last?

jbr's picture

Could lease a spot at a

Could lease a spot at a public park with a covered area and public restrooms.

Or pickup in a section of the University Commons parking garage. There are several vacancies within University Commons, Greyhound could lease a small one with restrooms. Use the indoor garage
for loading single bus.

fischbobber's picture

University Commons

That's a good idea.

What's kind of funny to me is that when we start looking at solutions with the best interests of our community at heart, there seem to be plenty of ideas. There is simply a lack of will on the part o0f local government and business to do the right thing.

jbr's picture

Would possibly create them

Would possibly create them some business being close to campus.

fischbobber's picture

West Town Mall

I know it doesn't fit the present demographic, but locating both public and private transportation facilities, in addition to improving pedestrian and bicycle access just makes sense to me, both from a serving the public perspective and for ensuring the long term economic success of the mall.

I think perception gets bogged down at the concept of a bad element. You get the situation with all its elements. You are always going to have good and bad elements. You develop your good elements and you manage the bad.

To start with, you could rent some porta-potties. See how it goes. We'll probably need more police patrols for this idea to float though.

Up Goose Creek's picture

Classism

There's clearly an element of classism here. But a university commons storefront is not going to fly because it has to be staffed. At least the new spot is next to a grocery store. But that doesn't help in the middle of the night. My first reaction is at least provide a porta potty and more benches.

What's the opinion of the beauty parlor. Could the community (that's us) sponsor hair cuts and more especially a wash for someone who's been on the bus for a while. What are the likely layovers.

jbr's picture

It reads: "Greyhound has not

It reads: "Greyhound has not sought the city’s permission to use either the public roadway or the Kirkwood Superstop to support their private bus operations.

City criticizes Greyhound's choice for new East Knoxville stop

bizgrrl's picture

Heh.

Heh.

jbr's picture

Wonder were they are getting

Wonder where they are getting these suggestions they have chosen?

bizgrrl's picture

Good question.

Good question.

Factchecker's picture

Napaway

Mostly off topic, but anyone checked out Napaway? A premium bus line to/from Washington, DC that happens to stop in Knoxville. I believe it's $125 each way and the Weigel's in West Hills being its "station." You could probably use it to/from its other endpoint Nashville just as well.

Sounds like a nice way to travel.

bizgrrl's picture

Hmmm... Now KAT maybe can

Hmmm... Now KAT maybe can handle being the Greyhound terminal for either $400,000 or $600,000 a year.

Previously they didn't have the capacity to accommodate both KAT and Greyhound. Is it all about the benjamins?

I do understand that they shouldn't have to "to use taxpayer dollars to solve problems created by a private business."

I don't know how many people depart Knoxville on Greyhound. However, if 10 people a day at $100/ticket use Greyhound to depart Knoxville, that would be $365,000. I guess Greyhound will continue to look for a better depot.

Mike Cohen's picture

Greyhound

They had a site that worked perfectly for decades. It meant they also created some local jobs and paid property taxes. They gave that up without any viable plan, apparently. I don't view this as on the City one damn bit.

bizgrrl's picture

Excellent points.

Excellent points.

jbr's picture

Greyhound Knoxville

bizgrrl's picture

Hah. About time.

Hah. About time.

bizgrrl's picture

Looks like the deal fell

Looks like the deal fell through. Back to the corner of Kirkwood Ave and Martin Luther King Jr. Avenue.

Up Goose Creek's picture

White privilege

Interesting how one middle class white guy speaks up about this and ranks a full article.

bizgrrl's picture

Heh.

Heh.

jbr's picture

Records show Knoxville College could be option for new Greyhound

Greyhound told the city it serves 40,000 passengers a year in Knoxville, many of whom have "no other means of affordable intercity transportation."

Records show Knoxville College could be option for new Greyhound bus stop

bizgrrl's picture

Oh, good grief.

Oh, good grief.

jbr's picture

DEA: Woman busted used Greyhound to traffic meth

The DEA officer, who is also employed by the Knox County Sheriff’s Office, said in a criminal complaint that he and a TBI agent were surveilling the Greyhound bus stop at 100 Kirkwood Avenue on January 26 in an unmarked vehicle, watching for possible drug-trafficking from individuals arriving from Detroit. According to the officer, in his previous experience, the Greyhound bus system has been used by some people to transport illegal narcotics to Knoxville for many years.

DEA: Woman busted used Greyhound to traffic meth, suspected fentanyl to Knoxville

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