MJW,

Do you know what he is being charged with?

This guy has been in a prison for 3.5 years and may be killed for signing a form? I'm all for "getting" the terrorist, but it needs to been done in our courts - with FULL DISCLOSURE - because this administration or congress can't be trusted. And I don't want to hear anymore "they'll follow us home." If they do, great, we'll see if the second amendment was a good idea after all. We can't fight a military war against a tactic. Terror is a tactic, suicidal Muslims are our enemy. I'm pretty sure suicide is not a great way of getting the most out of your soldiers. May scare the heck out of your opponent (the point of terror), but a poor idea tactically.

From Forbes; Padilla, a U.S. citizen, was held for 3 1/2 years as an enemy combatant after his 2002 arrest on what U.S. authorities originally claimed as a mission to blow up a radioactive "dirty bomb" in a major city. He was added to the Miami case in late 2005 amid a legal battle over President Bush's authority to hold him indefinitely without charge, and the "dirty bomb" allegations were dropped. (link...)

Irregardless, the question remains; Do you believe that Marvin Bush's business partners and work before 911 was part of a plan, a coincidence or just wacky?

From CBS;

Jose Padilla, once accused of plotting with al Qaeda to blow up a radioactive "dirty bomb," was sentenced Tuesday to 17 years and four months on terrorism conspiracy charges that don't mention those initial allegations.

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Be sure to click the "Timeline" feature.

No one believed GW was the mastermind of 9/11 when it happened. Remember approval ratings in the ninety percentile range. Once people started finally getting their bearings, the administration had already started to propagandize about “conspiracy theorist”. In fact they seemed to acknowledge a problem as far back as one year and one day after the 9/11 attacks when Bush addressed the UN General Assembly to make the case for war against Iraq. (link...)

So brother Marvin (and don’t forget his Kuwaiti partners) has the airplanes he was responsible for, leave from the airports he was responsible for, fly into the buildings he was responsible for – and this gives you cause for thought. I’d hate to see what gives cause for concern. (link...)

If you would like some more to think about, follow the life and times of John P. O’Neill (link...) and maybe the thoughts of Frank A. DeMartini
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There’s plenty more but are you concerned yet? Don’t be afraid of the questions. The answers suck – but don’t be afraid.

on all counts...

This what I don't get about you people. You say; "Was TWA 800 shot down? Probably", but in the same breath go on to worry about what the "other side" is going to do. Let me tell what the "other side" is going to do,- something beeping crazy! I know this because you think they have done something crazy, but you'd rather have high poll numbers than do anything about the lunatics taking over the insane asylum.

It's like Pelosi taking impeachment off the table before she gets her office. Democrats lose before they even start.

You say; "It's a huge leap from MB's housekeeper getting killed in a tragic accident to GWB masterminding 9/11." Marvin's housekeeper while tragic, is not the issue here. How about my statement to Carole; So brother Marvin (and don’t forget his Kuwaiti partners) has the airplanes he was responsible for, leave from the airports he was responsible for, and fly into the buildings he was responsible for? Do you have any leaping thoughts on that?

You will be steam rolled by the "other side's" ammunition because you are waiting on it. Why don't you fight the fight you know it right, and let the chips fall they may. If you're candidate somehow manages not to screw it up, but none of this stuff ever gets addressed - are we a better country for having successfully ignored it? History tells you this stuff is not new, just new to the U.S.

If you really want to take a different look, I recommend the following in order;

Start with what building look like when they fall (instead of blowing up); (link...)

For reference: what Kennedy and Eisenhower had to say about the military industrial complex;
Eisenhower; (link...)
Kennedy; (link...)

But the military is just a tool to be used. Who is using it? Take out a dollar and see who issued it. The Federal Reserve Bank is no more a government entity than Federal Express. This means it is in private hands. Do you know who these hands belong to? They went to extremes to organize it. Do you not think they would go to extremes to keep it?

Freedom to Fascism; (link...)
9/11 Mysteries; (link...)
Press for Truth; (link...)
Martial Law; (link...)

All this stuff is long and will take you time to muddle through. Please take a pen and write down questions you come up with for research. The last one is Alex Jones stuff. I know he is a bit over the top, but he does have interesting facts. This stuff is all the GOP's mess - so even if you don't believe it, hopefully you can at least be entertained.

When hard facts and real evidence get promoted from the late night radio UFO talk shows and the angry guy in a bunker websites to FBI and Congressional investigations, I'll pay more attention.

The stovepiped FBI and the 24% congress? Good luck with that. Somewhere else you won't see the facts; (link...)
Remember the hard questions about Time Warner last night? Didn't think so.

When hard facts and real evidence get promoted from the late night radio UFO talk shows and the angry guy in a bunker websites to FBI and Congressional investigations, I'll pay more attention.

Since Peter Jennings died and Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather got anthrax and then got “retired”, the MSM just seems more and more fractured. As far as hearings, unfortunately, Wellstone had a crash, Weldon hired his daughter, McKinney touched a guard, Paul hates black people and Kucinich is no more than a cute gnome. So, still no Congressional investigations.

But here's a thousand or so, Government, Military, Engineering, Architectural, Pilots, Aviation Experts, Professors, Media Professionals, and 9/11 family members who have what they think are hard facts or at least serious questions; (link...)

Also found a still from this video; (link...) In the pic on this page (link...) , it appears to show what looks like a collapsed floor. They must have used a special non-vaporising pancake resistant concrete you can only get in Spain.

First, I don't believe everything about anything. Second, I'm trying to convince people one at a time that something dangerous to our democracy is afoot - at least in this case. How am I doing?

I'm trying to convince Democrats because they now have the power. So if I were Nancy Pelosi, I would start by dragging Marvin's butt before every committee I could set up and ask; How did the airplanes you were responsible for, leave from the airports you were responsible for, and fly into the buildings you were responsible for?

Remember that question? You haven’t expounded on it, but to say it gives you thought. Does it end there for you?

How can you be greedy and shady and still devoted to democracy? Did it hurt your fingers to actually type that? This is your level of acceptance?

then who do YOU look to that has any chance at all of actually changing things?

We the people.

BTW – the first three links are facts or quotes. Nothing to debate. And Freedom to Fascism is produced by Aaron Russo the guy who made Trading Places not JFK.

I also believe something dangerous is afoot, I'm just not as sure as you are about the extent of that.

Please do as much research as you can to get sure - and then pass the word.

If the past is too much, observe what has happened since.

The recent plane crash in Brazil left a tail section along with the fuselage. Didn't vaporize like the Pentagon crash.
Brazil crash pics here; (link...)

The Windsor Hotel in Spain burned for 20hrs, didn't fall at "free fall" speed - didn't fall at all.
Windsor in Spain; (link...)

I'm not asking you to go around with your hair on fire. I've been looking into this junk for about 3 years. Took me a year just to get past the feeling it gave me.
Just inform yourself, so when someone calls you wacky, you will at least have the facts.

As for Congress, do you watch C-Span? Are you aware of K Street? There is a small number who are fighting the good fight, but they are vastly outnumbered and never get on the talking head shows.

And please don't let anyone (including R. Neal) convince you GW is the problem. He hasn't had power since Daddy called Dick to help lil George find a VP. Dick stayed. Isn't that convenient.