We were watching the last impeachment vote against Clinton on Dec. 19. Trump beat him by one day. Another win for Trump! Oh, and Trump scored his impeachment in his first term. Clinton's was in his second term. Another win for Trump! Are we tired of winning yet?

His head is going to explode. Keep an eye on his
tweets.

I frequently see these "O my God trump's head is exploding" comments from you guys… but it is pretty obvious that he is just fucking with you.

And someone needs to make sure that House Democrats are reporting votes to impeach as in-kind donations to the Trump 2020 campaign.

Is this stuff even going to make it to the Senate ? Its so very solemm

I mean .. what if you held an impeachment party and no one cared ?

You'll find out soon. And McConnell has been confirming judges throughout this.

It would appear that Justice Roberts would be able to determine recusal rules.This could piss a lot of people off real quick. If he determines that the Senators sworn to their oath are fit, he could also set the quorum at seated Senators. I guess. I don't really know. But the Supreme Court was supposed to have the power to balance the playing field.

It's hard to say what the Senator pool would look like if you culled the whackos. See ya Marsha. Maybe it's not that hard.

I'm really developing a love/hate relationship with Pelosi. This is a valid, but somewhat technical Article. But, she's not only right, she knows how to prove she's right. Grandma just said for the children to leave. Cousin Chief Justice? Would I be out of line to seek your guidance and help as equals?

One, or both, of unprincipled participants in our government process, has got to go. They both seem willing to show themselves out. This will not play out on TV to the Republican's benefit.

Beyond a grasp of what I think should happen, I don't understand the technicalities of a real Impeachment trial. I followed the Clinton impeachment, holding my head in my hands, rocking it back and forth, going "How could you be so stupid?" before my Republican friends figured out what was going on. They're better at remembering than they were at figuring out.

I was in the eighth grade and a political junkie already, when the Watergate hearings began. This is the precedent judicial role in an impeachment hearing. Sirica's role set a standard. I think Robert's role will supersede it.

It's a good time to be a student of the Constitution. There's lots to think about.

The Senate makes the rules and every Senator has a vote. It takes a 2/3 (67) majority vote to convict a president. The Chief Justice cannot make rules or prohibit any Senator from voting.

The Senate Rules give the Chief Justice the power to preside over these hearings with the same powers as any other trial judge in any other court (with rare specific exception). Unless you can provide the rare specific exception that would deny Roberts the power of recusal, then that power still lies with the Chief Justice. I couldn't find it. Nor could I find several other specifics I was looking for in the rules.

Partisans can puff and bloviate all they want, but the uniqueness of this situation dumps quite a bit of power to the Chief Justice specifically, and the Supreme Court to decide on the meaning of the Senate Rules. It's up to Roberts to decide whether that 2/3 number pertains to the entire Senate or members seated for the trial.

Feel free to quote any specific rules pertaining to the trial you feel relevant. I've only had a couple hours available to sift through them so far and having to start from scratch is not the most effective study method. If denying their oath is grounds for recusal, the makeup of the Senate for the trial could change dramatically. While it appears to be Roberts ruling to make, keep in mind it is the Republican Senators actions that would necessitate these measures.

rather than becoming armchair experts on constitutional law & spend our time every day consuming and regurgitating the conveyor belt of impeachment content — how about we just take bets?

$100 says trump stays safe in office and is supported by 99% of the GOP as the most (internally) popular president in the history of the party

another $50 says he wins a second term (will adjust this after dem primary)

This is a constitutional remedy to a constitutional issue. Reducing it to an infotainment review somehow seems rather whorish to me. I get that the average American has average intelligence. That doesn’t mean we should all roll over and pretend that justice shall evade our society. If we accept the intellectually lazy man’s view of what we are to become, then we deserve what we get.

And Vegas only has the odds of impeachment at 1 1/2 to one, contrary to what you and the rest of the Trump trolls are screaming. What do they know that you don’t know?

Merry Christmas!

I hope Santa will bring all the Republican family and friends I love the good sense to agree with me in the New Year and know that finally all of us are right!