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Jan 4 2009
11:57 am

A friend found several old South High Band programs and made me copies. Here are a few.

The first one isn't dated, but I'm guessing it's around 1963. Mr. Blackwelder was still the band director at South and the area elementary schools. He taught lots of us South Knoxville kids music. I took private lessons from him, and he was a great teacher and an excellent trumpet player who could play most if not all of the Arban's Book.

If you don't know someone listed on these programs, you ain't from South Knoxville.

P.S. I recall that Russell Ramsey, listed as South High's drum major in the ca. 1963 program, went on to become the drum major for the U.T. Pride of the Southland Band.

jbr's picture

Did the Meadows guys play

Did the Meadows guys play basketball?

R. Neal's picture

I think so. There were two

I think so. There were two brothers, Jim (Jimmy) and Eugene Meadows. They also had a sister Karen, and lived about a block away from me on Philips St. I think it was Eugene who played basketball? Maybe both, don't remember.

Edited to add: Just checked my "Rocket 69" yearbook, and yes, they both played basketball and Eugene was also on the track team.

Rachel's picture

A quick look at the first

A quick look at the first program tells me one of my IHP neighbors (Mitzi Dishman, now Congleton) once played clarinet in the South Elementary School band.

R. Neal's picture

I remember Mitzi Dishman.

I remember Mitzi Dishman, and so does the Mrs. She also went to Doyle when we were there.

Rachel's picture

I'm going to have to harrass

I'm going to have to harrass Mitzi about the clarinet thing. News to me.

BTW, did I ever tell you I took chemistry at Doyle in the summer of '68? The chemistry teacher at my high school was pitiful, so I spent the summer with my cousins at Four Way Inn and went to summer school here.

Mr. Busse, I believe the teacher's name was. Oh, and Phil Ballard, former County Commissioner and current Property Tax Assessor, was in that class with me.

Sometimes it's such a small world I get claustrophobic.

R. Neal's picture

The Mrs. was recollecting

The Mrs. was recollecting that Mitzy dated Jim Ladd, of the White Store Ladds I believe, and also a musician.

Don't remember a teacher named Busse, but I didn't get there until 1969.

Rachel's picture

Yup. Heard about him but

Yup. Heard about him but never met him. He was, I think, a friend of Mike Dotson's (who you also probably remember). I worked for years with Mike and Mitzi's husband Greg at TVA.

Not only are Greg & Mitzi my neighbors, but we bought our house from them when they moved one street over to a house on the river.

R. Neal's picture

Yes, we knew Mike Dotson.

Yes, we knew Mike Dotson. There's another Doyle guy you might know from TVA, Bill Threlkeld. I believe he still works there in engineering.

His son is a photographer, who was interning at KNS for a while, and maybe still does some stuff for them.

Rachel's picture

I know Bill, but not through

I know Bill, but not through TVA. He was on the Knox Heritage board with me. If I'm not mistaken, he pretty much got the historic overlay for Old Concord done single handed.

Nice guy. I didn't know he was a south Knoxvillian.

R. Neal's picture

Does anyone have any Doyle

Does anyone have any Doyle High band programs from ca. 1969-1972? Young High programs from the 1966-1972 era?

Indya's picture

School Museum

Historic Knoxville High School houses a small museum dedicated to Knoxville and Knox County school history. It's got a bunch of old records, photos, annuals and I recall a lot of band stuff, particularly from Young and Doyle.

It's also a beautiful old building, the city of Knoxville's only high school for years, built in 1909. It stopped being a regular high school in the 1950s once Fulton was built. It currently houses adult ed programs, vision and hearing services, the teachers credit union, GED programs and various other things.

For some reason there seems to be no mention of the museum on the KCS website, but I know it's there and has regular, but not daily, hours. It's located at the corner of 5th Avenue and Central.

(link...)

R. Neal's picture

Hey, thanks Indya. Had no

Hey, thanks Indya. Had no idea, will have to go check it out.

Nobody2's picture

I see some names even I (a

I see some names even I (a transplanted yankee) recognize! My neighbor John Piper was a drummer at Giffin and Debbie Helsley, a name familiar to many I'm sure, is also mentioned. Debbie is the sister of Sylvia Woods and (I forget her first name) ? Crisp. Small world indeed.

Nobody2's picture

Whoops, nope, I'm confusing

Whoops, nope, I'm confusing families now. Debbie is the sister of one of my other neighbors. Sylvia's sister is Sharon Davis and the lady whose name I can't remember Crisp. Oh nevermind! :)

Factchecker's picture

Fascinating. Ed Meyer, Sr.,

Fascinating. Ed Meyer, Sr., was South High's orchestra director then. I'm thinking that's before they moved to Oak Ridge, where he started the string program. Seems I remember one of Edgar's interviews mentioned that he lived for a while in Knoxville.

jbr's picture

If I recall correctly, my

If I recall correctly, my understanding is he gave Rusty Holloway (Young High grad?, UT music faculty) bass lessons. South Knox city/county, center of universe.

cmorsdalegribble's picture

South High Band Programs

There are a number of folks on these programs that have passed away. Of the ones that I am aware of, the number is about 14. Possibly the most well-known of those from my age group (grad. 1971) is Jimmy Meadows, brother of Eugene. Jimmy passed away in the last couple of years or so.

Pretty cool that copies of these old programs still exist. I remember another band director by the name of Wayne Pegram. I do not remember if he preceded or followed Dwight Christian. He was a much more intimidating, in-your-face type of personality compared to the laid-back DC.

Forty-plus years ago. The years do pass quickly.

R. Neal's picture

Yes, the friend who gave me

Yes, the friend who gave me the programs was running down the list of people who had passed away. I couldn't believe it, and can't even remember all the names he rattled off in the course of the conversation.

Pegram was before Dwight Christian. Pegram went on to head up the Tennessee Tech music program. And yes, he was a hard ass. (But he offered me a scholarship to Tennessee Tech which I probably should have taken.)

Factchecker's picture

German, bah!

If I recall correctly, my understanding is he gave Rusty Holloway (Young High grad?, UT music faculty) bass lessons. South Knox city/county, center of universe.

I've heard that. Bass U. I think that's why Rusty and his students play French bow. Ed Sr. had a far reach. One example is that the bass player in the band of Edgar's long time friend Flux is a UT-Rusty alum. (Todd Parker, I think is his name.)

R. Neal's picture

Todd Parker There's another

Todd Parker

There's another blast from the past.

Factchecker's picture

My bad. It's Todd Parks. I

My bad. It's Todd Parks. I don't know of that other fellow.

R. Neal's picture

Here's an "it really IS a

Here's an "it really IS a small world" update.

The friend who gave me the band programs was having breakfast with his wife at Cracker Barrel yesterday, and who did he see at the table next to them?

Former South High Band director Dwight Christian, of all people.

It's too strange of a coincidence.

Mr. Christian recognized my friend and remembered his name (35+ years later), and told my friend he remembered me, too. He apparently still lives in South Knox with his wife, and my friend said they looked good. Mrs. Christian said their daughter-in-law is band director at Bearden.

Larry Henry's picture

South High 1950s social clubs

I graduated from Young High in 1956.

Presently I'm correcting a book I wrote about South Knoxville and the Southern Circle.

What were the names of the social clubs for boys during the 1950s at South?

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