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Apr 19 2020
06:25 am
By: R. Neal
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Discussing:
- Dickey Betts has gone to meet his brothers (1 reply)
- Boeing was once known for safety and engineering (7 replies)
- Nearly 40 families being evicted in Maryville, new ownership (3 replies)
- Cost of car ownership on the rise, becoming unsustainable for some drivers (5 replies)
- Beware bad tax advice on the Internet (3 replies)
- Opoid treament across the bridge in SoKno (4 replies)
- Is tap water safe to drink? CDC report highlights deadly waterborne infections (4 replies)
- TN Republicans pushing to allow open carry of assault rifles despite pushback (2 replies)
- As some countries spurn cars, the U.S. continues to embrace highways (1 reply)
- Private equity ownership of hospitals made care riskier for patients, a new study finds (20 replies)
- USPS Knoxville facility (1 reply)
- Springtime is here and Dogwoods are blossoming (2 replies)
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- EPA Blisters TVA Plans For Replacing Kingston Coal Plant With Gas (RoaneViews)
- Friday Toons (RoaneViews)
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- Glad to see a substantial candidate running against Chuck fLIEschman (RoaneViews)
- It's voting time again. Let's get out the vote. (BlountViews)
- Winter at the Big Rocks (Whitescreek Journal)
- Maryville Daily Times Home Delivery changing again (BlountViews)
- Amazon facility in Rockford finally opens (BlountViews)
- Share your ideas for the Blount County Comprehensive Plan 2023 (BlountViews)
- Secrets from My Radio Days (Joe Powell)
- Fall 2022 (Whitescreek Journal)
- Mmmm, A Fresh Hot Cup of Joe (Joe Powell)
TN Politics
- Tennessee Legislature can aid state’s obesity problem (TN Lookout)
- Senate rejects two impeachment articles against DHS Secretary Mayorkas (TN Lookout)
- Senate education chair: Voucher agreement needed by week’s end for passage (TN Lookout)
- John Cole’s Tennessee: Reading, writing, ‘rithmetic and reloading (TN Lookout)
- Budget clears House, Senate panels, but voucher bill on hold (TN Lookout)
- Republican lawmakers make vocal push against Chattanooga VW plant union effort (TN Lookout)
Knox TN Today
- Don DeVoe at 82 – plus bits ‘n pieces (Knox TN Today)
- Reeder Chevrolet property sells for $15.25 million (Knox TN Today)
- Advance Knox is good, could be better (Knox TN Today)
- Free Ride (Knox TN Today)
- All Hail the SnowBow! (Knox TN Today)
- Two services today for retired educator (Knox TN Today)
- Rickea Jackson lands in Los Angeles (Knox TN Today)
- Library studies information integrity (Knox TN Today)
- Linda Sullivan stretches our imagination (Knox TN Today)
- TCAP testing in progress: Take care (Knox TN Today)
- Trumpore and Barrier receive full ROTC scholarships (Knox TN Today)
- Dailey three score big at Chalk Walk (Knox TN Today)
Local TV News
- Mayor pushes back on TDOT project plans to widen Louisville Road (WATE)
- Cumberland Gap Volunteer Fire Department raising funds for fire truck (WATE)
- Father finds purpose in organ donation after death of son (WATE)
- Sevierville attraction under investigation by TN Department of Agriculture (WATE)
- Knoxville hosts community meeting as pedestrian bridge project progresses (WATE)
- Dirty food slicer found during West Knoxville restaurant inspection (WATE)
- Knoxville man must serve 26 years in prison for child sex crimes (WBIR)
- Downtown Knoxville festival featuring cuisine and performances returns on April 20 (WBIR)
- 'I want to go to college': Renounce Denounce graduates first class from its gang intervention program (WBIR)
- Service & Sacrifice: H-bomb Eyewitness (WBIR)
- Lenoir City man uses personal tragedy to help others (WBIR)
- Looking back: Blount County man one of several East Tennesseans on death row (WBIR)
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State News
- Unemployment rate drops in Tennessee, holds steady in Georgia - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Opinion: Forecast: 45 and Stormy in NYC - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Sean O’Brien named UTC Police Chief - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Melanie Shepherd Obituary - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
Wire Reports
- Twelve jurors are seated in Trump's hush money trial - The Associated Press (US News)
- Blueberries and bell peppers: six fruits and vegetables with the most pesticide risk - The Guardian (Business)
- 108 arrested at pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University - NBC News (US News)
- Prosecutor asks potential jurors if they'll be able to look at Trump and say "guilty" if case is proven - CNN (US News)
- Netflix profits surge after password-sharing crackdown - Financial Times (Business)
- Trump Media shares surge after a miserable run. Pros say stay away - NPR (Business)
- US stops UN from recognizing a Palestinian state through membership - Reuters (US News)
- The Grand Strategy Behind J.D. Vance's Latest Push To Kill Ukraine Aid - POLITICO - POLITICO (US News)
- Bitcoin halving could set up cryptocurrency for long-term gains - Yahoo Finance (Business)
- Kennedy Clan Endorses Biden, in a Show of Force Against R.F.K. Jr. - The New York Times (US News)
- Bryan Kohberger, accused in Idaho killings, says cellphone data will show he wasn’t near house - The Washington Post (US News)
- Google Fires 28 Employees Who Protested an Israeli Cloud Contract - The New York Times (Business)
- Meta adds its AI chatbot, powered by Llama 3, to the search bar across its apps - TechCrunch (Business)
- US Bond Yields Climb on Interest-Rate Hike Mention by Fed’s Williams - Bloomberg (Business)
- Tesla launches website to convince shareholders to vote for Elon's $55 billion payday - Electrek.co (Business)
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Patients compensate for the
The Infection That’s Silently Killing Coronavirus Patients
Amazon using thermal cameras for coronavirus temperature check
Amazon is using thermal cameras for coronavirus temperature checks
Blood oxygen tests
(in reply to jbr)
If I remember correctly, blood oxygen testers are cheap and easy to use. They are also a much better indicator of covid-19. It seems to more of a blood disease than a lung disease, messing up the transfer of oxygen to the blood cells. Am I missing something?
I may be wrong, but my
(in reply to fischbobber)
I may be wrong, but my understanding is most if not all people with covid have a fever. It is a common symptom that shows up early. Sometimes covid pneumonia develops and then oxygen deprivation comes into play as a characteristic.
From the article reference above ...
My understanding is oxygen saturation below 90 percent needs to be addressed.
Exactly.
(in reply to jbr)
It ends in the blood, not the lungs. From what I understand.
Covid-19 causes sudden strokes in young adults, doctors say
Covid-19 causes sudden strokes in young adults, doctors say
Seniors with Covid-19 show unusual symptoms, doctors say
Seniors with Covid-19 show unusual symptoms, doctors say
See how far spit droplets travel through air when we talk
See how far spit droplets travel through air when we talk
Antilockdown protester in
Antilockdown protester in Tennessee carries poster that says,
"Sacrifice the Weak, Re-Open TN"
We're so proud. /snark
Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan plans to crack down on grocery stores
I don't know about local grocery testing, but the last time I was in Publix next to campus it looked like every employee had on a mask. I don't think that is the case at Kroger and others.
City of Detroit planning to crack down on COVID-19 testing for grocery store employees
At the Food City I shopped at
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At the Food City I shopped at recently only one employee out of about ten had a mask.
Target was 50/50 of employees masked
~25% of customers but they were also rocking the clean carts like they have been at Krogers
WHO warns there's no evidence of coronavirus immunity
As global death toll tops 200,000, WHO warns there's no evidence of coronavirus immunity
WHO warns against coronavirus "immunity passports"
"Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19
Knox County, Tennessee, US, World case counts
Knox County
Tennessee Case Count
Tracking Covid-19 cases in the US - CNN
CDC case count
World case count - johns Hopkins
60 Minutes - computer algorithm among the first to detect virus
The computer algorithm that was among the first to detect the coronavirus outbreak
Virus-notifying smartphone apps gaining momentum around world
Virus-notifying smartphone apps are gaining momentum around the world
Non-covid19 deaths spike in March and April
Deaths spiked as Covid-19 spread in March and April, new analysis finds
JetBlue to require face coverings for passengers
JetBlue to require face coverings for passengers; American giving out masks
American, Delta, Frontier to require passengers to wear face mas
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American, Delta, Frontier to require passengers to wear face masks
United and other US airlines get more serious on face mask
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United and other US airlines get more serious on face mask requirements
Airlines ban alcohol on planes in response to Covid-19
Companies look at legal liability for coronavirus infections
Companies look to limit legal liability for coronavirus infections
All your questions about how to wear a face mask -- answered
All your questions about how to wear a face mask -- answered
Costco to require face coverings for shoppers
Costco to require face coverings for shoppers
Texas Zoo is opening back up with a drive-thru experience
A Texas Zoo is opening back up to the public with a drive-thru experience
Deaths soar in country that didn't lock down
Deaths soar in country that didn't lock down. Officials identify big reason why.
Martin and Glenn
(in reply to jbr)
The Swedish Protocol is essentially what was instituted in Knox County after a propaganda campaign, full of lies and damn lies by Martin Daniel over The weekend. We got a little less disciplined version though. Stay tuned. We have every reason to believe death will follow.
Daniels cut me off from his facebook account when I noted that causing the willful death of another human was murder and pointing out the his legislative immunity from prosecution would be over after he fails to run for re-election. I'm not sure about the nuts and bolts of his, or Jacobs immunity from prosecution (I presume it would be something along a massive drunk driving killing spree) , buy I'm pretty sure that was the area of comment that lead to my exit.
Death rates
(in reply to jbr)
Sweden's death rate is 12% and appears to be growing. So much for Daniels statistical insignificance.
Sweden's death rate
(in reply to fischbobber)
Sweden's death rate has been slowly, steadily rising over the course of the last few days. It is now at 12.34%.
Animals living it up with no people
Bears live it up after Yosemite Park closes
zoo has been trying to get two pandas to mate for 10 years
Sea turtles thriving with beaches closed due to COVID-19 outbreak
Rays, sharks, and dolphins enjoy new freedom as humans retreat from the oceans
Rangers advise caution amid reopenings
(in reply to jbr)
National park closings gave wildlife room to roam. Rangers advise caution amid reopenings.
Siberian zoo sees animal baby boom during lockdown
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Siberian zoo sees animal baby boom during lockdown
Here’s what Dr. Fauci is concerned about as states reopen
Here’s what Dr. Fauci is concerned about as states reopen
Most dangerous place in the grocery store
This is the most dangerous place in the grocery store
Wearing masks, South Korean students to go back to school
Wearing masks, South Korean students to go back to school
Masks ...
A man wore what appeared to be a KKK white hood on a trip to the grocery store
Dollar Tree worker told a man he needed a mask
Three family members charged in shooting death of security guard who told a customer to put on a face mask
Oklahoma city backs off mask mandate after threats, as officials struggle to enforce public health rules
What's wrong with these
(in reply to jbr)
What's wrong with these people? Oh, wait, they're just using the president's guidance.
You missed the one where some guy in Texas pushed a Texas park ranger into a body of water. The guy was caught and arrested.
How many people are wearing masks in Knoxville, Gatlinburg?
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How many people are wearing masks in Knoxville, Gatlinburg?
The psychology behind why some people won't wear masks
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The psychology behind why some people won't wear masks
Passenger spit on bus driver after being asked to wear a mask
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A bus driver told a rider to wear a mask. Then the passenger spit on her.
Mask incident in Alabama
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Mask incident in Alabama Walmart
Man refusing to wear mask breaks arm of Target employee
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Man refusing to wear mask breaks arm of Target employee
Video shows Costco worker calmly handle customer berating him
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Video shows Costco worker calmly handle customer berating him over mask policy
Masks seem to be working to fight the virus
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Masks seem to be working to fight the virus, even as some refuse them and US deaths near 100,000
IHME
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It would seem to me that it is not unwise to question IHME's credibility in these matters. And given the group's previous data tomfoolery, one wonders how they were ever again accepted as experts at anything.
Or
(in reply to Moon)
You could look at the results being achieved in countries mandating masks, Austria, Japan, etc.
"...look at results being achieved..." elsewhere
(in reply to fischbobber)
I agree. Thus far, the "look around and see what is actually happening" method of modeling/forecasting seems much more useful than anything that has come out of academia.
In fairness to academia....
(in reply to Moon)
They are being asked to give us years worth of answers in days. The questions government should be asking are "What non-specific techniques could be used to slow and control the spread of this?"
Instead, our leaders are trying to get through this by election day, which, ironically, is the best way to extend the virus' run.
We don't even know what all this disease does yet. And the more we find out the worse/more bizarre it gets.
Please. "Academia" does not
(in reply to Moon)
Please. "Academia" does not speak with a single voice - it is comprised of people and methodologies, some better than others. Academic methods and scientific methods involve continual debate and revisions and modifications as new information and data becomes available. It's a bit ironic that you would cite a scientific (and academic) publication such as the Lancet to support your case and then take a swipe at "academia." This comment comes across as another example of the Beavis and Butthead tribalism that damages thoughtful discourse. What's even sadder is when showing concern and respect for others - in this case, being willing to take precautions to protect the health of others - is regarded as a threat to one's manhood and sense of independence. That's weak.
You're correct, Ashley
(in reply to AC)
You are right, Ashley. I will be more specific.
There are (at least) two groups whose C-19 models, forecasts and predictions have been so horribly wrong that their good reputations do not deserve unquestioned restoration:
1. The University of Washington Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, and
2. The Coronavirus-19 Outbreak Response Experts (CORE-19) group at UT's Baker Center.
While it is unfair to paint "academia" with the same dirty monolithic brush, there is a macro flaw in the way we are using academic research as it related to C-19. As pointed out by a fishbobber, academicians are not typically asked to immediately produce models that will be immediately used for massive public policy decisions within hours of the completion of their work. Academic research typically has the luxury of publication and years of peer challenges and attempts at replication - all of which typically occurs outside of general public view.
This is a rare instance of certain academicians' work being immediately used on an unprecedented scale. And quite tragically, the vast majority of public decision-makers chose the wrong academic models on which to base their decisions.
IHME's work as an ostensible policy basis was a massive failure
(in reply to Moon)
There's the model array and there's the selection of which ones. That the key decision makers in question chose a particular model which just happened to be one of the most optimistic and vastly divergent from agent-based and SEIR epi models is suspect to say the least. It's important in this regard to note that, generally speaking one side of the epistemic divide goes with science and reality - and its policy decision makers generally go along with that side - the other side doesn't. So when we talk about how the selection of models and science goes, it's important to keep in mind that one side does inquiry, is reality-based, the other side - which currently occupies a lot of powerful positions including the POTUS - doesn't or worse apes science with its own version of science even though that version is not. This is imv in large part how we end up with IHME models being the fulcrum for incredibly important public health policies at the federal level. Because the selection criteria is more about whether the models in this case buttress identity and priors rather than being scientifically valid. The merchants of doubt hold more sway in one political realm than the other. This is how some deny climate, deny lung cancer, empower fossil fuels through sham science.
Carl Bergstrom, biology professor at UW, has been particularly good on this and has a book with the aptly titled "Calling Bullshit" coming out in August.
Calling Bullshit
Perhaps, David. From my
(in reply to Moon)
Perhaps, David. From my perspective, there have been numerous shortcomings and flaws in addressing the pandemic - reaching far beyond the realm of academia. In some instances, especially where caution is being urged, I'm inclined to give some benefit of the doubt given the nature of the rapidly changing circumstances and evolution in understanding of this disease. However when flaws in a projection model are used to undermine the message that wearing masks in public situations is a smart practice that could reduce the spread of the virus and save lives, I have to disagree.
Not to pile on
(in reply to AC)
It appears, that through modeling, or even her gut decision base on the plethora of data she was being asked to process, Mayor Kincannon made the right decisions to slow the spread. It's just as clear that Jacobs royally screwed up the reopen. Had it not been for the protests allowing him and out in a couple weeks, the mess that will become this town would be totally on his shoulders.
Had Jacobs advocated for masks to his warrior tribe, we might have still been able to handle whatever Covid-19 brought us this spring and summer.. After this weekend's demonstrations though, Jacobs will be able to deny culpability though and move the public official culpability to some nebulous forces that don't exist. He won't have to be accountable for the liuves he cost this town.
Right now, maybe we'll be able to handle our first wave, maybe we won't. Planning, we don't need no stinking planning. All we have to do is shut the smart woman up. /snark
Widespread mask-wearing could prevent COVID-19 second waves
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Widespread mask-wearing could prevent COVID-19 second waves: study
Best way to reduce coronavirus transmission by wearing a mask
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Best way to reduce coronavirus transmission is by wearing a face mask, study finds
Thank you.
(in reply to jbr)
Being a misanthrope is a thankless task.
States requiring people to wear masks when out in public
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These are the states requiring people to wear masks when out in public
States requiring masks
(in reply to jbr)
The article lists 13 states requiring masks in public. Here are those 13 states, sorted by the percentage of residents hospitalized (at any time) for C-19. Mortality stats are also included, along with those figures for the entire US and Tennessee.
These are total population numbers.
(in reply to Moon)
At this point (we're still very early in the onset of the disease) the pertinent numbers are Rfactor ( rate of transmission), hospitalization percentage and death percentage per rate of infection.
We already know the vast majority of Americans do not have Covid yet.
Once this disease has run its course, these categories will be great for comparison at a historical perspective. But let's look at Tennessee. In a month, those two numbers will be .068% and .032%. Without a translation of mortuary and hospital bed capacity into a percentage of population, the numbers are meaningless.
If you want to measure in terms of percentage of total population, then all the measurements must be translated into that measurement. For instance, that US number of hospitalizations is 229,740 and rising. We know that outbreaks move and overwhelm hospitals in areas it hits. Yet the .07 would suggest the number is insignificant. We know from the outbreaks that it is not the case. It's the same number, but the anti-maskers are swapping various views of that number and comparing apples to oranges. It's the same way people get sold time-share. What's good in the time share industry is not necessarily good public policy.
What we do know is that masks work. Covid is spread by spit and masks stop spit. It really is as simple as that. Community wide use of masks slows the spread of the virus to a degree greater than herd immunity would. The use of masks can either be a community effort based on an educated populace banding together in a common cause, it can be government mandated, or it can be ignored, like the anti-maskers wishing to infect as many as possible (the Swedish protocol) thus increasing deaths, permanent disability, financial ruin for the patients and ultimately the collapse of local governments and economies, because that's what instability does to markets. Glenn Jacobs and Martin Daniels are both on record as supporting the Swedish protocol. Glenn Jacobs and Martin Daniels are both idiots and attempted murderers at this point. If their plan works, they should be held accountable and tried for murder.
Interestingly, local anecdotal evidence suggests that, with mask use and common sense distancing, we can begin to build new normals. If we could get community use of masks normalized, we can not only get football season, we can jump the rest of the SEC and dominate for literally decades. Don't think for a second that recruits aren't paying attention to Knoxville's Covid numbers, or how we are handling the BLM changes that will be coming. After the Klan rally at Clemson, rumor has it that UT has become somewhat a destination point for recruits. The irony of the situation where the same people that claim to want a dominate football team are leading the way to destroy that very effort.
That's what happens when you elect a do-nothing libertarian wrestler who knows jack about football or government or even basic science to run your county. Elections have consequences.
At least with respect to football recruits
(in reply to fischbobber)
Uh ... swing and a miss, there.
Think so?
(in reply to Moon)
Look at the UT players at the BLM rally. Look at Bama's Covid situation. Look at the tweets coming out of Clemson from their players. Look at our recruiting before and since covid became an issue. You're out of touch with the kids dude. What we do and don't do as a community in dealing with covid and race relations will determine our success as a football team. And Pruitt is every bit the positive community leader that Jacobs is the incompetent fool.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure
(in reply to fischbobber)
At least based on the comments of the several current, past and future UT football players at my house right now- yeah, I’m pretty confident in my comment that recruits are not monitoring Covid case counts in Knoxville. (All of them are paying for their own food, just to be clear.)
(Sorry; I couldn’t pass that one up.)
Well, young, strong healthy
(in reply to Moon)
Well, young, strong healthy people apparently aren't dying from covid, so the odds are in their favor. About their meemaws, though...
Re Meemaw and football recruits
(in reply to R. Neal)
You are obviously quite right, Neal. My comment was in response to the silly claim that oversized 16- and 17- year-old high school students are monitoring Knoxville's C-19 cases as a part of their recruiting process.
Back to players infecting Meemaw ... The "Meemaws" who are currently at risk are adult coaches, trainers and equipment personnel working closely with players in football complexes around the country. Granny is safe from her oversized grandson because players won't return home until December.
In many ways, the players are better off having returned to campus. They have structure, medical staff in the complex and they can't infect at-risk family members.
Better off
(in reply to Moon)
They are better off as long as our community spread of covid stays at a low rate. If an outbreak occurs, like Mayor Glenn Jacobs, Representative Martin Daniel and their merry band of idiot followers are trying to make happen, the best thing for the players is to send them home to shelter in place and hope for next year.
Being ahead of the covid situation and being at the forefront of the BLM situation are the biggest sociological breaks our town has given the football team since Doug Dickey and integration. Just because our local politicians are too stupid to see it, and the subsequent problems a large outbreak will bring to our ball team doesn't not make it so.
As to the staff, masks work. If they are not proceeding in a manner to procure and institute proper mask and distancing techniques, then any in team spread is on them. We know yelling, screaming and singing send out more spit. Wear a mask and use a bullhorn.
Maybe you're right. Maybe none of the players are not aware of the disease, how it spreads through communities, and how easily it's carried how to their mothers and grandparents. Maybe they don't know that the long term effects of having and recovering from this disease, for people in their age group, will be the loss of enough of their God-given talent ( their 4.3 speed goes to 5.1, no big deal, right? ) and weight loss and chronic fatigue, but they're coming to college, and no matter how stupid and out of touch our recruits are, as you claim them to be, they will quickly find out that the SMART adults in charge are taking this seriously. But hey, they're not paying attention. Be right and chuckle it up. The 30-40% of the players that show no symptoms beyond a slower forty time should be more than enough to get us through the season.
Why do HC workers wear N95 masks?
(in reply to Moon)
or face shields?
They don't, unless they are
(in reply to Mike Knapp)
They don't, unless they are working directly with covid patients.
Yes, but why?
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Yes, but why?
Obvious reasons when working
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Obvious reasons when working with covid patients. Or was that a rhetorical question? :)
P.S. All other staff, visitors, etc. wear surgical masks at all times, and nurses wear gloves that they change between patients.
The PS
(in reply to R. Neal)
was where I was. All PT’s and patients at my wife’s PT clinic wear nonclinical masks, sister says no one allowed into UTMC without such a mask. Now back to mediating a discussion between my 10 & 12 yo about whether juicy fruit is better than big red with a side of whether call of duty is rly just the same game released every year with minor modifications...
sister says no one allowed
(in reply to Mike Knapp)
sister says no one allowed into UTMC without such a mask.
They also screen all visitors by taking temp and asking questions about symptoms, contacts, travel, etc. They also only allow one visitor at a time and require check-in and check-out at the screening stations. In ICU, covid patients are isolated in a separate part of the floor. In the ER, patients with symptoms or suspected exposure have big red warning signs on the door about ppe, gloves in a tray on the door, and only staff allowed and they were wearing masks, shields, and those disposable coveralls and booties.
In other words, they are taking this stuff seriously and are amazing. Nobody whines or complains except the occasional uninformed visitor bozo at check-in.
Masks work.
(in reply to Mike Knapp)
Modern right wing politics is an incomprehensible mumbo-jumbo of semantics, anymore. One poorly designed flawed study or opinion should invalidate hundreds of years worth of science. The current right wing argument against masks goes along these lines, "Because I have evidence that masks may not be 100% effective, I should ignore the mountains of evidence showing that masks control the spread of covid more effectively than any other technique."
The justification? "My ignorance is equal to your knowledge because the constitution says so."
Wuuut?
(in reply to Moon)
That percentage listing for states is completely wackadoodle (to use a word a right-wing friend likes to use). It doesn't show anything about infections and deaths over time, nor does it address population densities and many other data that health and science professionals need in order to really know anything. Whether masks help or not is one such metric that matters.
It also shows low percentages that trivialize the number of souls lost (over 117,000 in less than a third of a year--or about double the number of U.S. military who died in Vietnam over about 20 years).
It looks like that was pieced together by a low-level GOP operative, to perpetuate the pandemic in this country in order to extend the power of malevolent and corrupt Republicans.
KAT driver threatened with box cutter over mask
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Man threatens KAT bus driver with box cutter after she asked him to put on a mask
Anti-masks stuff ....
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See meeting abruptly end after turning into anti-mask protest
Georgia governor sues Atlanta mayor over city's mask mandate
unity
Had to go to the Dr. last FRI & as we left, the parking attendant - an older lady - wasn't wearing a mask. We asked her if she had any. "No" she replied, so we gave her a baggie that had 6 to 8 masks. She cried. God bless her.
Our neighbor has had a part of both of her lungs removed due to cancer. She had no masks. We gave her some N95 masks that I already had a number of before the pandemic, for use in my shop when sanding, grinding, painting, etc.. We also bought masks, gloves & toilet paper for my niece & my wife's brother.
If it is possible, we should be helping friends, family, neighbors, and YES - strangers. There is strength in unity & as they say, what goes around, comes around.
Furthermore - "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thy self"
Words to live by.
Masks at Weigels
10 packs for $14.99. They're high, but available.
What kind of masks? Which
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What kind of masks? Which Weigels?
Weigels at Callahan.
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They were disposable surgical/paper fiber masks.
See how a mask affects how a cough travels
See how a mask affects how a cough travels
HI $ masks
Today at a local convenience store in Rockford, TN (Four Corners Market) they had masks at the check out counter for $2 each. OUCH!
~20,000 teens in Georgia have received their driver license ...
... without a road test
Nearly 20,000 teens in Georgia have received their driver licenses without a road test
Customers shoot 2 OKC McDonald's employees
Customers shoot 2 OKC McDonald's employees after being told dining room was closed, police say
Most coronavirus in some states are in prisons and nursing homes
The most alarming coronavirus numbers in some states are in prisons and nursing homes
Silent hypoxia: Covid-19 patients who should be gasping for air
Silent hypoxia: Covid-19 patients who should be gasping for air but aren't
'quarantine greenhouses' so diners can eat while social distanci
This restaurant in Amsterdam introduced 'quarantine greenhouses' so diners can eat while social distancing
Shortage of needles, syringes looms in race to develop COVID-19
Shortage of needles, syringes looms in race to develop COVID-19 vaccine
Supply chain headache? Hundreds of millions of syringes will be needed to vaccinate U.S.
Some thoughts to consider
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Got it? Good. Read it, know it, live it.
Went to restaurant in
Went to restaurant in Kingston Pike/Cedar Bluff area Sunday evening. None of kitchen staff nor some other staff preparing or handling food had masks. We got up and left. Is it a requirement for them to wear a mask?
Following are the guidelines
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Following are the guidelines from KCHD. Hard to tell the answer to your question, but it looks like the answer is no. Maybe KCHD can answer if you call them?
• When 6 feet of physical distancing cannot be
maintained, employees and patrons must wear
face coverings.
• Sanitize surfaces and items between users.
• Treat every patron and employee as if they are
potentially infectious.
• Drinking-only establishments are not open for
onsite consumption in Phase One.
• Food truck parks are not open in Phase One.
• Curbside pickup and delivery options should still
be offered, when possible.
• Restaurants can open only with tables spaced to
allow for at least 6 feet of physical distancing
between groups of patrons, at a maximum of 50%
capacity based on seating capacity. Physical
distancing of table spacing applies to both indoor
and outdoor seating.
• A maximum of 6 people per table, with the
understanding that restaurants have more than
10 total patrons at one time, face coverings
cannot be worn while eating, and physical
distancing is intermittently broken during the
delivery of food items from the kitchen.
• Physical distancing of at least 6 feet must be
maintained in both the kitchen and dining room.
Diners cannot wait inside or congregate while
waiting.
• The bar/counter section within a restaurant is not
open for seating or standing due to the tendency
to congregate and because of the danger of
respiratory droplets landing on the service area.
Alcohol can be served from the bar in other
seated areas of the establishment.
• Self-service is not permitted (for example, salad
bars, buffets, beverage service and shared
condiments) due to the use of communal serving
instruments and surfaces.
• Condiments must be single-serve, provided by
request only (not tabletop) and cannot be reused.
• Menu boards, single use menus or sanitizing of
menus between each use is required.
• Use rolled silverware/napkins stored in sealed
bins (cloth face covering and gloves should be
worn by staff while rolling silverware in a
designated sanitary area)
• No live music.
Risks and how to avoid them, found via Kevin Drum
Apologies if this is posted elsewhere here on this or another thread, but this looks like good data we all can use.
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What’s going on at city County building? Wearing masks also?
Via Yamiche Alcindor - CONFIRMED: The White House has directed all West Wing staff to wear masks at all times in the building, except when they are at their own desks.
Disney parks in US will 'likely' require face masks
It will be interesting to see what they can come up with that will allow for them to reopen.
Disney parks in US will 'likely' require face masks when they reopen, CEO says
That thieving rat!
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With the prices they charge for admission, they should supply branded masks to each visitor with a happy Mickey/Minnie or Goofy face on it.
Excellent!
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Excellent!
Inmates tried to infect themselves with the coronavirus
Inmates tried to infect themselves with the coronavirus to get early release, Los Angeles County sheriff says
Uber to use facial recognition tech to determine if masks worn
Uber to use facial recognition tech to determine if drivers are wearing masks
How Uber rides are about to change
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Face masks and mandatory selfies for drivers: How Uber rides are about to change
Environments with increased risk of spreading coronavirus
Biologist: Avoid these places to protect against Covid-19
The Doctor Will Zoom You Now: BlueCross covering online
The Doctor Will Zoom You Now: BlueCross commits to covering online medical consults from now on
Humans are not herds
Can herd immunity help stop the coronavirus? Experts warn it's not that easy.
May 17, 2020, Texas reports
May 17, 2020, Texas reports largest single-day jump in coronavirus cases.
Texas reported 1,801 new coronavirus cases Saturday, reportedly marking the state’s largest single-day jump since the start of the coronavirus crisis.
The Texas Department of State Health Services said 734 of the new cases are from Potter and Randall counties.
“These counties’ new cases are largely from targeted testing of employees at meat plants in the area. More test results from plants are expected,” it tweeted.
US lockdown protests may have
US lockdown protests may have spread virus widely, cellphone data suggests
Devices associated with protesters travelled up to hundreds of miles after rallies where few precautions were taken
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He thought the coronavirus was 'a fake crisis.'
He thought the coronavirus was 'a fake crisis.' Then he contracted it and changed his mind.
A spike of on May 18 of new
A spike of on May 18 of new virus cases in Tennessee.
Tennessee Coronavirus Map and Case Count
623-case jump brings Tennessee’s confirmed COVID-19 cases above 18,000
Kai Kupferschmidt in Science
Kai Kupferschmidt in Science Mag - Why do some COVID-19 patients infect many others, whereas most don’t spread the virus at all?
Today on NPR
Yes, I heard a small number of people can infect a huge number of people. Such as a grocery store worker and what does this mean for a waiter in a restaurant. And in case you hadn't heard, Calhouns sucks.
What’s up with Calhouns?
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*
From Facebook
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And there was another from Chesapeake's that I can't find right now.
Diandra Heck
Yesterday at 11:01 AM ·
I have worked for Calhoun's for 7 years. And yesterday I got fired because I refused to break the phase one guidelines of serving customers at the bar. It was either do what they say or I don't have a job there. So instead of breaking the guidelines, I had no other choice but to leave. These guidelines were set for the safety of our workers. Copper Cellar restaurants do not care about that at all. They are willing to terminate workers like myself in order to follow their OWN guidelines that was given to them by the owner of the company. Here I have a photo of the bar last night. Today they moved all the chairs because they are expecting the health department to show up and they don't want to get caught for breaking the guidelines. Its funny... I spent 7 years with this company and they let me go for not breaking the law and for standing up for the safety of my health and my families health. I left in a respectful manner, I did not cause a scene like they are telling everyone there, that is a lie. I left with my head held high, and the fact that I knew I did not do anything wrong. please share this post and get the word out because this is wrong
Compass has a report.
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Compass has a report. Complaints posted on facebook by an employee at the Turkey Creek Calhouns and a manager at Calhouns on the river. They say the restaurants aren't complying with distancing and other guidelines. The health dept. said compliance is voluntary and there is no enforcement, and suggested people just avoid places that aren't complying. Copper Cellar/Calhouns declined to comment.
Compass: (link...)
I dont know all the places
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I dont know all the places owned by the folks that own Calhoun's.
Walking around downtown it looked like the restaurants were spacing people and employees wearing masks. If I go in a restaurant and the employees aren't wearing masks, I leave.
It looked like the Stock and Barrel had folks crammed too close together in the outside seating area.
It surprises me how few people wear masks downtown, and in general. At least it seems you should have one to put on when you go inside. I saw a pregnant woman walking downtown without a mask. That seems like a questionable decision.
This is how sharing dinner table items can make you sick
This is how sharing dinner table items can make you sick
A look at the potential long term effects of Covid-19
A look at the potential long term effects of Covid-19
CDC Opening America Up Again
CDC Covid-19 opening plan
Sweden is still nowhere near 'herd immunity'
Sweden is still nowhere near 'herd immunity,' even though it didn't go into lockdown
Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count
Trousdale County in Tennessee by far has the most in the list "Hot spots: Counties with the highest number of cases per resident" in the entire US, as of May 21.
Lake County has the 5th most, Bledsoe County the 8th most.
Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count
One Word:
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Prisons.
Any word?
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From Morgan County.
TDOC has been doing
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TDOC has been doing comprehensive testing of its prisons, but I don't know the schedule off the top of my head. As of Tuesday, Morgan County had only seven active cases. That tells me the correctional facility tests haven't come back yet.
Thanks.
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That's what I thought.
Hair stylist worked while symptomatic, exposed dozens
Missouri hair stylist with coronavirus worked while symptomatic, exposed dozens of clients
COVID-19 is costing drug cartels millions of dollars
COVID-19 is costing drug cartels millions of dollars
Virginia requires everyone to wear masks in public spaces
Masks to be required inside public places starting Friday, Northam says
Good.
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It's the smart thing to do. I blame myself for thinking we had a competent enough government to get us something in the way of football.
Increase in positive Knox County virus cases
Increase in positive Knox County virus cases draws Health Department's scrutiny
Kroger: Three workers test positive for coronavirus Cedar Bluff
I started going to Publix at University Commons almost exclusively a month or so ago because all employees wore masks and they are on top of buggy and basket cleaning. I wasn't seeing that diligence at Krogers and Food City.
Kroger: Three workers test positive for coronavirus at Cedar Bluff store in Knoxville
Someone posted about this on
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Someone posted about this on Twitter a couple of days ago. Been waiting for the new report.
Also heard on Twitter that there were some cases reported at the Lowes in East Knoxville. Waiting on an official report.
Yes, we have noticed Publix has done a better job. Hope it continues.
Context
Of course, we're dealing with an Executive branch of the federal government that is fact-averse, science averse, averse to proactive reasoning and studies that would guide us in such sudden crises, and which shut down virtually all budgeted efforts to learn and prepare for these things ahead of time. Even George W. Bush understood the value of doing the science.
So absence such preparation and while we have no leadership or competence at leading, and confronted with a mystery virus that academia is scrambling to learn new, different, and sometimes seemingly contradictory things about, what should we be doing instead?
Should every science study that gets something wrong about this novel virus result in punishment, defunding, etc. of the institution behind its publication? That would have a tragic and chilling effect. Unless there was intended fraud, which I don't believe is being alleged here, that would be just another self-inflicting wound to a country where expertise is already being dangerously but systematically dismantled by political right-wing ideology.
The federal government (at
The federal government (at least the executive part, that, you know, executes government policy, programs and functions) is no longer functioning. Health care, pubic health, regulatory agencies, even the Post Office have been politicized and weaponized. Information is no longer reliable. No help is coming. Only lies.
Sadly, the incompetence and indifference is trickling down to Red State governments and even local governments.
Let's hope that the defense department is still functioning on at least some basic level of readiness. We are vulnerable.
Knox County hits red light on COVID-19 phased reopening plan
Knox County hits red light on COVID-19 phased reopening plan
A red light signifies the
(in reply to jbr)
That last sentence is interesting. I wonder what the county mayor would like to do at this point. Follow the plan or continue reopening at the same or quicker pace?
Where U.S. coronavirus cases are on the rise
Where U.S. coronavirus cases are on the rise
Let's also recognize AC for
Let's also recognize AC for making an early, tough, personally and financially painful decision to cancel Big Ears in the interest of public health and safety. And, if I recall correctly, he did it before any official government action or guidance.
Great Point!
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Great communities need great leaders. Both Randy and AC fit that bill.
Let's also recognize AC
Indeed.
Let's also recognize AC
Indeed.
Thanks, Randy (and
Thanks, Randy (and fischbobber and Roger). I appreciate that.
It was a difficult decision - we had, as always, put heart and soul into the 2020 festival, and it was selling out for the first time ever over two weeks in advance. It was amazing how fast things were moving that week however. What seemed sadly but clearly necessary to us (but not everyone) on Tuesday night was painfully evident to all within a day or two. By Thursday, concerts all across the county were being canceled and by the weekend venues everywhere were closing.
We had the benefit of a lot information - European friends, colleagues and artists were giving us almost minute-by-minute updates on what was going there and what was clearly coming here. Some American artists were returning from European tours with their heads spinning because things were changing so fast. I also have family - my sister-in-law and our two nieces who are all in medical profession in Germany - were providing additional information and insight.
It has been an extraordinary experience watching this pandemic unfold - and a sad and frustrating one to witness the lack of thoughtful, strong, intelligent, unified leadership here in the USA in addressing it. We still have some bold and exciting plans and hopes to return in early 2021, but my greatest fear is that the current strategy will backfire and extend the pain even further. I hope I'm wrong. Thanks again for the acknowledgment.
A bit of irony........
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I see mandated masks for a lot of business models, including festivals and entertainment.
The longer our county mayor keeps being a spoiled brat, the longer it will take various businessmen, like promoters, to get safe business plans up and sell the changes to an audience and customer base. Nobody wants to come somewhere where everybody's sick.
What if everybody's sick, but no one knows it?
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What if everybody's sick, but no one knows it?
The return of football players to campuses will provide useful data. At P5 schools you will have 100 young, presumably healthy males, from across the country. None (few?) are C19 symptomatic, but the entire population will be tested. It will give us some insight into current infection rates among a population that (from my personal knowledge) has been generally non-compliant with any mitigation efforts.
unless it's a masked ball, I
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unless it's a masked ball, I don't see masks generally catching on at festivals and concerts. And not social distancing either. Concerts and especially festivals are social events. While there are a few innovative ideas being explored short term, the reality is that festivals and concerts as we know them will return when people have reasonable assurances that they aren't risking their health in attending. It's likely to be a while. I do remain hopeful.
Didn't know if you saw this or not.
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(link...)
Brushy Mountain. This weekend.
Country stars Chase Rice,
(in reply to fischbobber)
Country stars Chase Rice, Chris Janson spark outrage with videos of packed concerts
You know.....
(in reply to jbr)
I saw that on my first go round looking for a link to share with that news, and I saw the link you posted and dismissed it quickly because of the skyscraper in the back ground. Then I hit your link and looked at it again and realized, damn, that's a guard tower.
Wonder how many we had there from Knoxville? Looks like a superspreader.
Good resource
Anyone not following Andy Slavitt on this subject should check out his efforts. He also has a great podcast, In the Bubble.
Florida's surge in coronavirus cases. But there's good news ...
Just in time for summer, Florida's seeing a surge in coronavirus cases. But there's good news, too
Google Maps to alert users about COVID-19 travel restrictions
Google Maps to alert users about COVID-19-related travel restrictions
Get around safely with these new Google Maps features
America is giving up
Alexis Madrigal & Robinson Meyer in the Atlantic - America Is Giving Up on the Pandemic
Very sad.
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Very sad.
It is too early for science to explain the virus's spread
It is hard to escape the fact that there are some real gaps in knowledge in regard to community spread of Covid-19 and the efficacy of policy. The states have been labs to some degree and the results are not showing what one might have hypothesized from conventional wisdom. A couple of months ago many were pointing to Kentucky as shutting things down more thoroughly and earlier that we did in Tennessee. Also two states with Republican governors - Ohio and Georgia took very different steps with Georgia's governor being lambasted as callously opening too much and too soon. But as the table below demonstrates the results don't necessarily support the hypotheses implied by the above. Tennessee has fewer deaths per capita than Kentucky. Likewise Georgia fares no worse than Ohio.
NBC: Corona Virus Deaths by State
It is too early for the data collection, hypothesis testing, and theory building that comprise the scientific method. I argued a month ago that we had no good models and that errors such as those that Moon cites may well lead to a collective eye roll when we are warned of a second wave.
Scientists need to explain models to build trust
The model building has been rushed, premature, and, not surprisingly, quite inaccurate. The assumptions change rapidly. Any modeling depends on capturing an almost infinite number of human decisions. The fact is that nobody has a handle on this.
I think Covid-19 is very serious. As a member of a vulnerable population I choose to wear a mask and carefully practice social distancing. But the science is not there yet to reliably guide policy. I find that especially troubling because trust in science is undercut when what is claimed to be science produces results so far from the mark. The last thing we need is to unwittingly undercut the scientific method as the basis of our knowledge of how are world functions.
All good points.
(in reply to Bill Lyons)
Richard Briggs posts on facebook, they are a must read for trying to figure out both what's going on, and what direction to take.
It appears that our positive cases for Knoxville have skewed toward younger people. Near as I can tell, this is what accounts for our outstandingly low mortality rate. We have also avoided outbreak in Knoxville in our jails and assisted living facilities. In other words, by avoiding outbreaks in vulnerable pockets, we thus far have been able to avoid both deaths and hospitalizations. This is not just a good thing, it is a great thing. It is also something that could literally change overnight. Ignoring the problem and pretending it will go away on its own is not only bad science, it is bad public policy.
I don't know if I would credit the more successful responses to this crisis a result of great scientific modeling or just common sense and luck. I think there's doubt that if our luck in Knox County doesn't hold, there's a great chance that current county policy could quite likely destroy the Knox County economy for a generation. By sticking with our current laissez-faire, hands off policy of come what may, as it relates to covid-19, we expose ourselves to not only known risk, but to the risks of the unknown. Setting our community up to being the petrie dish of the next really crappy effect of this virus shouldn't be the goal of any of us.
As such, now would be the time to be proactive. Essential stores should declare whether they are mask only, or mask optional. The County should provide a forum for mask-only stores to advertise the in business, in a free county financed web site. Mayor Jacobs has declared us prisoners of the state by not affording us low risk avenues for essential behavior, and those in the private sector that choose to step up to serve this need should have access to forum. And those of us sentenced to our house or our health should have an option. I don't want to do business with people whose first priority is not the health and well being of their customers and associates. These people should have free access to forum. It is is the general welfare of our community. And they are doing the work government is mandated to do.
Covid is serious and right now Knoxville is an anomaly. If someone knows why, they certainly aren't advertising the information. For our community to come through this together we must find common ground, and common purpose. We must each do our part, but beyond that we must elevate the level of acknowledgement that those around us get for doing theirs. From local, to state, to federal we must demand leadership from our elected officials and hold them accountable for listening to the scientists and articulating exactly the course of action we're taking for exactly the reasons.
Gaps in scientific knowledge don't explain the COVID reduxn gaps
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Let me humbly change that for ya Bill - the science is there to reliably guide policy.
I would agree that there have been and certainly continue to be gaps in scientific knowledge about COVID. Some of these gaps have closed as the scientific community grinds away at this serious public health issue - masks work. Others still remain at large - why and how does blood type matter? Here's one place to check in on the status of the science where papers are free. And here's the indispensable Derek Lowe who writes from the leading edge of treatments.
However the general thrust from above - that reducing COVID spread remains a mystery because of a supposed gray area in which the scientific method has been inadequately applied, or perhaps because there is not enough data to apply it - is a concept to take issue with. The policies that are supported by science and adopted by countries with policy makers like yourself who appreciate science and deploy its findings have seen consistent reduction in the spread of COVID.
Masks work, testing/tracing/isolating work and paying people to stay home so that they don't spread at work works.
Maybe your comments about the scientific method concern themselves with more about the predictive value of models than whether science, specifically the science of public health, as an endeavor can reduce COVID spread. In this regard I would agree that the models are only as good as the data that are input into them and that also some policy makers mosdef cherry-picked some models over others. We can see for example how they've improved and changed over time for example comparing the IHME vs Los Alamos versions here.
In sum, if "nobody" (translated - all ppl and policy makers) doesn't have a handle on the spread then how do we explain this image below? In Europe they're watching us with alarm. Why?
I hope that you, being in close proximity to power, would advise those with decision-making abilities to not throw their hands up or give them cover. Rather I hope you would say that science can guide their hands and play the opposite role by remaining steadfast in the belief that the science, although always evolving with new data, gives us a solid basis for the public health decisions that have driven the spread to low levels from New Zealand and South Korea to the recovering hotspot of the EU.
USA population = 331 million
EU population = 446 million
Virus. smirus, Las Vegas opens
Las Vegas reopened. People showed up.
Where U.S. coronavirus cases are on the rise
Among others for the week ending June 7, 2020 ...
Total Cases Per 100k New Cases 1-week change
Tennessee 26,381 386 3,375 +18.0%
Where U.S. coronavirus cases are on the rise
Cell phone data
Analysis: Data from 15M phones shows some Americans are gathering at pre-pandemic levels
"By attending the Rally, you
Trump campaign says it can't be held liable if rally attendees contract coronavirus
Whatta ya gonna do? It's kind
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Whatta ya gonna do? It's kind of funny, but then sad. Do you think the attendees just don't care? Sure they'll sign the waiver just to be with Trump.
Seems like a natural occasion
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Seems like a natural occasion to do well organized, thorough, contact tracking
I wonder if they have the intention to do so?
Donor data
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Only if the contact is to ask for a check.
Record spikes in new coronavirus cases, hospitalizations
Record spikes in new coronavirus cases, hospitalizations sweep parts of U.S.
Steroid drug hailed as 'breakthrough' for seriously ill COVID-19
Steroid drug hailed as 'breakthrough' for seriously ill COVID-19 patients
Some Coronavirus Hot Spots Now Seeing Record Number Of Cases
Some Coronavirus Hot Spots Now Seeing Record Number Of Cases
Sevier County's COVID-19 cases are rising. What does that mean?
Sevier County's COVID-19 cases are rising. What does that mean?
LAX implements thermal screening to scan passengers for virus
LAX implements thermal screening to scan passengers for coronavirus symptoms
Washington state makes face masks mandatory ...
Washington state makes face masks mandatory as some states see new coronavirus surge
Washington becomes the latest state to mandate wearing masks in public
Angry residents erupt at meeting over new mask rule
Angry residents erupt at meeting over new mask rule
North Carolina say they won't enforce the state's mask mandate
Several sheriffs in North Carolina say they won't enforce the state's mask mandate
GOP senator from Florida: "Everyone should just wear a damn mask
(in reply to fischbobber)
GOP senator from Florida: "Everyone should just wear a damn mask"
Face mask debate turns fierce
Face mask debate turns fierce in St. Lucie County
Last 7 days 36 states have showed an upward trend
Many states hit pause on reopening but experts say the spread of coronavirus is now hard to control
Best DIY face mask material, quilting cotton beats bandana
The best DIY face mask material and fit? Quilting cotton beats bandana, new study suggests
NY, NJ and CT expand quarantine advisories for travelers from 8
NY, NJ and CT expand quarantine advisories for travelers from 8 more states with high coronavirus rates
See ways innovators are making masks worth your while
See ways innovators are making masks worth your while
Goldman Sachs says they (face masks) could help save the economy
Trump says masks are a 'double-edged sword.' Goldman Sachs says they could help save the economy
A National Mask Mandate Could Save The U.S. Economy $1 Trillion, Goldman Sachs Says
Tool Shows COVID-19 Risk In Your County
Green, Yellow, Orange Or Red? This New Tool Shows COVID-19 Risk In Your County
Risk Level by State/County
JPMorgan analyzed data from
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That’s a solid,
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Would love to see that split out with a “bars” category and rerun
Mexico building their own wall?
Mexican border states raise new concern about Americans bringing coronavirus south
GOP governor: I opened the bars too soon
GOP governor: I opened the bars too soon
Various states post daily COVID-19 records
Florida, Texas post daily COVID-19 records as 'positivity' rates climb
Georgia Tech won't require students to wear masks on campus
Georgia Tech won't require students to wear masks on campus. Faculty aren't happy.
Face shields AND face masks now mandatory on Qatar Airways
Face shields AND face masks now mandatory on Qatar Airways
Miami-Dade to shut down restaurants again as Florida's Covid-19
Wear masks and socially distance and this probably doesn't happen
Miami-Dade to shut down restaurants again as Florida's Covid-19 hospitalizations surge
United States at risk of outstripping COVID-19 testing capacity
A Dire Warning From COVID-19 Test Providers
'Why is it taking so long?' | East Tennesseans wait for COVID-19 results as laboratories see influx of testing
Dozens of Mississippi lawmakers have coronavirus
Dozens of Mississippi lawmakers have coronavirus after weeks of refusing to wear masks
Local restaurant closes for week
Emma's on Sutherland Facebook page ...
The Burgers- Sutherland
Pathologist found blood clots in 'almost every organ'
Pathologist found blood clots in 'almost every organ' during autopsies on Covid-19 patients
COVID-19 turned college towns into ghost towns
COVID-19 turned college towns into ghost towns and businesses are struggling to survive
Immunity to covid-19 could
Immunity to covid-19 could disappear in months, a new study suggests
1 in 3 young adults vulnerable to severe Covid-19
1 in 3 young adults vulnerable to severe Covid-19 — and smoking plays a big part, research finds
Knoxville allowing restaurants to seat customers outdoors
Knoxville allowing restaurants to seat customers outdoors in parking lots with temp permits
Walmart will start requiring customers in US stores to wear mask
Walmart will start requiring customers in US stores to wear masks
Walmart bans couple seen in video wearing Nazi swastika masks
(in reply to jbr)
I assume these two are registered voters. Another reason why everyone voting is important.
Walmart bans couple seen in video wearing the Nazi swastika on their face coverings
Voting
(in reply to jbr)
I voted today.
If everything works, it's got a good chance of working.
Miami-Dade County announces a $100 fine for not wearing mask
People Not Wearing Masks Can Get $100 Fine in Miami-Dade County
Southern mayors push back on state coronavirus response
Southern mayors push back on state coronavirus response
Three simple acts can stop Covid-19 outbreaks, study finds
Three simple acts can stop Covid-19 outbreaks, study finds
Hotels attempt to adapt
Sick of working from home? Work at a hotel instead
Motor vehicle fatalities
Highway deaths spike for third-straight month as drivers take advantage of empty roads
Birx warns of concerning rise in coronavirus cases in 12 cities
Birx warns of concerning rise in coronavirus cases in 12 cities as Trump paints a rosy picture
I would not get on a plane or eat inside a restaurant
Fauci tells MarketWatch: I would not get on a plane or eat inside a restaurant
Covid-19 is driving millennials out of cities
Covid-19 is driving millennials out of cities and into first homes
Technology making sure workers wearing face masks and distance
An algorithm may warn you to keep your distance from others
New technology tests common surfaces for presence of coronavirus
New test allows people to swab for coronavirus on surfaces in public places
Interesting, given there's
(in reply to jbr)
Interesting, given there's little reason to expect significant risk of infection from surfaces. While many of us us have been sanitizing our mail, and more public surface cleaning is generally long overdue, I thought we can pretty much stop worrying about that. (I've almost have stopped decontaminating mail, except out of habit.)
Has anyone heard of any infections that were suspected to have occurred via surface contact?
P.S. This might be more of a tracing thing(?). 48 hours seems long to wait too.
Mask dispute leaves Staples customer with broken leg
Mask dispute leaves Staples customer with broken leg after woman throws her to ground
Too many of these attacks
(in reply to jbr)
Too many of these attacks happening. If someone comes close to me without a mask, I make a best effort to leave the area. It is too unsafe to ask others to wear a mask, keep their distance, be safe.
Jordan is playing politics and Fauci isn't
Jordan is is just wasting time
Dr. Fauci and Jim Jordan get in heated exchange over protests
bands are playing parking lots to give heartsick fans their fix
Third Eye Blind and other bands are playing parking lots to give heartsick fans their fix
Delta Turns Flight Around After Passengers Refuse to Wear masks
Good for Delta
Delta Turns Flight Around After Multiple Passengers Refuse to Wear Masks
Delta Has Placed over 100 People on No-fly List for Refusing to Wear a Mask, CEO Says
20,000 more Americans could die from Covid-19 in next 21 days
20,000 more Americans could die from Covid-19 in the next 21 days, CDC ensemble forecast shows
Knox County reports 83 new cases, three new deaths Sunday
Coronavirus in Tennessee: Knox County reports 83 new cases, three new deaths Sunday
Coronavirus in Tennessee: Knox County reports 12th death in last
Coronavirus in Tennessee: Knox County reports 12th death in last five days
Board of Health meeting 8/5
I contacted the Board of Health after the July 30 meeting (the morning of July 31) and got an e-mailed response from Dr. Buchanon that I would be added to the list. Mayor Jacobs had said during the meeting that he and the Board of Health would "work something out." When calling to confirm location and time this morning, I was informed that Mayor Jacobs had taken over this part of the meeting and that he would determine who did and didn't speak. I will call in the morning to sign up, but I suspect the process has been rigged. Mayor Jacobs is clearly organizing a mob and aside from the very real risk of infection, there is also the very real danger of physical threats in this situation. Any advice or feedback from people more experienced in this sort of thing would be appreciated.
According to a press release,
(in reply to fischbobber)
According to a press release, the meeting will be via zoom but Jacobs portion will be at the City County Bldg and requires in-person attendance:
KNOXVILLE, Tenn.— At 5 p.m. Wednesday, the Knox County Board of Health will convene via Zoom for its weekly meeting. As proposed by Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs last week, the Board will observe 30 minutes of public forum at the start of the meeting. Each speaker will have up to three minutes to address the Board.
Although the medical professionals serving the Board of Health have declined to attend in person the meeting being held in the City/County Building’s Main Assembly Room—where public forum will take place—Mayor Jacobs will patch into the Zoom meeting from there.
“When this began, the Board of Health acted as an advisory council, but now these doctors are drafting and approving public policy,” said Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs. “No public institution I’ve ever seen can make these types of sweeping regulations without public input. Transparency is the greatest tool we have in government, and this situation is no different.”
To register for public forum, Knox County residents must call the Mayor’s Office at 865-215-2005 to speak to Marsha between 8:30 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. tomorrow, Aug. 4. Due to time constraints, roughly ten people will be able to participate in the public forum, with a few others queued just in case some don’t use all their allotted speaking time.
Those speaking at public forum will come to the City/County Building at 400 Main Street to work with on-site staff to join the meeting.
In addition to those seats reserved for public forum participants, the Main Assembly can accommodate 50 physically distanced people in its upper and lower levels. The line for entry will be form outside the Main Street entrance of the City/County Building. Physical access to the meeting will be restricted when capacity for the Main Assembly is met. PBA will provide masks to those who don’t have them.
Yup
It’s not enough that Jacobs is trying to rig the forum, he’s forcing all those who wish to speak to a super spreader event. I guess I’ll get ready to get my ass whipped, catch a deadly disease, and die. We all gotta go sometime from something I guess.
Thanks for showing up
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WTF Casual Pint? It's really so necessary for you to serve beer in person?!?!
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N95 mask, gloves, goggles if
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N95 mask, gloves, goggles if you have them.
Hmmmm.... will they take you seriously?
I wouldn't put my life in their hands.
Up at 8:36
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Played "It's the seventies and I'm calling the radio station to win a prize" for fifteen minutes, finally got through and spent another fifteen minutes , more or less, on hold waiting for Marsha, whoever Marsha is. She took my information, asked me my topic (The importance of integrity in government officials during a pandemic) and said that the ,mayor's office would decide who would speak.
Last week at the meeting, they said first come first serve.
I will wear a face shield and a mask, bring sanitizer and a hand towel should I get a call back. I'm not holding my breath.
I don't think this is being done because the mayor wants input. This is being done as a power play to try to intimidate the Board of Health. So no, I don't think the mayor will take anyone seriously. This is Kabuki Theatre.
I don't think this is being
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I don't think this is being done because the mayor wants input. This is being done as a power play to try to intimidate the Board of Health. So no, I don't think the mayor will take anyone seriously. This is Kabuki Theatre.
Ya think? Should have told her you wanted to tell them how they were trampling your rights and you were thinking about suing them.
Looks like
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Looks like I’m going to have to come up with something. I got the call from Marsha that I made the cut. Looks like I’ve got a little speech to write.
Wonderful.
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Wonderful.
Get it
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Holler if you need some PPE.
May the odds be ever in your
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May the odds be ever in your favor.
Good times...
Remember when one of the popular political slogans used by many now in the anti-mask constituency was "Freedom isn't Free"? It's almost as if they never believed in real shared sacrifice.
Way to go
Way to go fischbobber!
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Knox Co. video, first speaker...
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Thanks.
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I hope I persuaded some measure of good for Knox County.
I've never really done anything like that before.
100 people in Ohio were infected after man attended church
Almost 100 people in Ohio were infected with coronavirus after man attended church service
One death every 80 seconds
One death every 80 seconds: The grim new toll of COVID-19 in America
Leading Causes of Death in US
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Covid-19 is heading to #3 on this list
Leading Causes of Death
Georgia student suspended after a photo of a crowded hallway
Georgia student suspended after posting a photo of a crowded school hallway says it was 'good and necessary trouble'
Bars
Welp, looks like expecting the bar owners to act in good faith and shut down at ten isn't going to work. At 11:15 all but three bars I saw, out of roughly twenty, were open and operating. Police presence was heavy, but there was no enforcement of the ordinance.
That sounds like a
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That sounds like a fascinating way to spend a perfectly good evening. I bet you're a blast at kid birthday parties.
I think he was probably
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I'd bet he was probably coming home from work.
Work
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That’s exactly what I was doing. After I got home, I worked on my lunch for today. Then I sat in my back yard with my dog, listened to cicadas and wondered what it would have been like to be born with a silver spoon in my mouth. 42 years as a Teamster and UPSer. Am I supposed to be embarrassed about doing honest work for a living?
My bad
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My seniority date is August 15, 1977. It would have been more accurate to say 43 years.
Congrats on the long term
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Congrats on the long term employment at what I perceive is a good company.
It’s brought me security
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It’s the toughest place to work in America. But if you show up for work, you can expect a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work. You can’t say that about a whole lot of places these days.
And thanks. I’m pretty proud of my time with the company.
Congrats and thanks
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So you drive for them? I have a BIL (not in these parts) who did that until he retired and know others who had careers there. UPS is known for good pay and benefits. So it's thanks to the union? More people should know that, if so. It would make clearer the failure of (anti-union) neoliberalism.
I thnk
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Things are going to change so fast in short order, it's going to be hard to keep up with them.
I hope the union can keep up. I don't know that they have enough people staffed to keep up.
I drove package for over twenty-five years. Now, I shift trailers.
What's driving this change?
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What's driving this change? Growth? Technology? Corporate culture?
Mostly technology.
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While we are still a labor intensive culture, more and more operations are being taken over by robots (for lack of a better term). We have a hub in Nashville that unloads semis, for instance, without humans. We are in the process of testing self-driving semis and the technology exists to do home deliveries via robotics, drones, robots etc.
Our corporate culture went through its big change when we went public.
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I'm sixty-one. Good Lord willing, I will be alive when my job is eliminated. Jobs for laborers are in flux. People just don't pay attention until the day their job is eliminated.
Growth is hard to plan anymore. The company projected a reduction in volume because of this pandemic, for instance. Instead, business has exploded. Our growth is dependent on human behavior beyond our control.
And undermining government services
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In case you don't read Heather Cox Richardson, you are really missing a lot of information. Today, her post began with this which speaks to the USPS and UPS:
"The Friday night news dump was about the United States Postal Service. Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a Trump loyalist, has recently created new rules for the agency that have dramatically slowed the delivery of mail just as mail-in voting for 2020 has begun. Today, DeJoy overhauled the USPS, releasing a new organizational chart that displaces postal executives with decades of experience and concentrates power in DeJoy himself. Twenty-three executives have been reassigned or fired; five have been moved in from other roles. The seven regions of the nation will become four, and the USPS will have a hiring freeze. DeJoy says the new organization will create “clear lines of authority and accountability.”
There is reason to be suspicious of DeJoy’s motives. Not only have his new regulations slowed mail delivery, but also under him the USPS has told states that ballots will have to carry first-class 55-cent postage rather than the normal 20-cent bulk rate, almost tripling the cost of mailing ballots. This seems to speak to Trump’s wish to make mail-in ballots problematic for states. And DeJoy and his wife, Aldona Wos, whom Trump has nominated to become ambassador to Canada, own between $30.1 million and $75.3 million of assets in competitors to the USPS. This seems to speak to the report issued by the Trump administration shortly after the president took office, calling for the privatization of the USPS."
USPS
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The USPS is crucial to UPS survival. Fed-Ex is just a giant money laundering operation with aging assets. Without the USPS , UPS quickly becomes a monopoly and has to be broken up. The present system works better.
Darwin's law
I don't with illness on anyone but this could be a case where Darwin's law will come into play and solve the situation without any leadership from anybody.
Which masks are the least effective
Researchers created a test to determine which masks are the least effective
Welp
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Looks like I'm retooling again.
I'm gonna sew diapers into my gaiters.
I've seen workers that do
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I've seen workers that do heaving lifting wearing these gaiter masks and was pleased that they found something acceptable. Now, not so much. Geez.
Interesting experiment
It's been pretty cool to watch the Board of Health operate. These folks are smart and fair. The integrity issues really stand out. This tinkering with regulation and looking for coordinated data points to factor in is not easy to measure. So one has a chance to build an observed data base. The restaurant and bar owners, as a group, show very little interest nor aptitude for policing themselves. This was certainly something the Board needed to know before making a decision. I've still got this little voice in my head saying, "If we could just get those ba**ards to go all in on masks for six weeks, we still got a shot at football."The big voice says I'm dreaming.
It was imperative to know the level of seriousness with which the restaurant industry, as a group, was going to respond to this collective crisis. They have been given their chance. As a group, they've done poorly. There were interesting and notable exceptions to that general observation, both from a high end integrity statement and a pretty creative cheating standpoint. This will be an important fact to consider in the event that the UT start-up goes poorly from an outbreak standpoint. No on-premise alcohol sales after 10:00 for anyone would appear to be the smart move.
I have gotten the sense in the last few weeks that awareness is up. And people are getting the message. Folks my age are happy about not getting sneezed on, most of us grumble about masks. Mask use is growing in visibility, anyway. The more visible it is, the more people wear masks, the more people that wear masks, the fewer people get sick. The less people sick, the easier it is to reopen and retool business plans. You have customers.
Drinking masks are the obvious next move and bars should be given notice that mask designs for drinkers should be in all their plans. The next re-open will have to be better run than this one. The reasons should be obvious.
What's been cool about watching the Board operate though, is how much further ahead of the game they are than I am, as in "Whoa. Didn't see that one coming." sort of constant coming from them. These folks are smart. People should be paying attention.
Mask use seems more
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Mask use seems more commonplace to me. All sorts of folks wearing or pulling them out of their pocket when move into congested area. We drove thru Sevier Ave and downtown tonight on way home and bars were closed except for Clanceys Tavern on Gay Street. They seemed crowded and packed close together from my quick glance. Good spot to do tracing.
Notable exceptions
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There were a couple, three notable exceptions on Gay Street. There were also some folks playing semantics with the regulations. If the kitchens were open, they weren't cooking. At least I didn't smell them.
And yeah, you're right. Mask use was up, and it has been rising. Some are of the theory that mask use is driving our downward tic. It's a bit early to tell, but if increased mask use is driving our downward trend, it means we've reached the point where it becomes effective. That's a huge milestone in fighting this disease. It gives control back to the community.
The fam is vacating and I took the dog for a drive tonight.
Last night 11:15
Crowds down, mask usage up. Not sure if it was the ordinances or lack of customers driving that, but necessary and good to see. West side bars were up a bit.
Laid-off set up soup kitchens in front of senators offices
Laid-off workers set up soup kitchens in front of senators who oppose extending $600 checks
Felony in Illinois to assault a worker enforcing face mask laws
It's now a felony in Illinois to assault a retail worker who is enforcing face mask rules
Assaulting a worker who's enforcing masks is now a felony under a new Illinois law
Woman accused of assaulting after not wearing mask
Woman accused of assaulting gate agent at Phoenix airport after not wearing mask
US colleges try to prevent and combat Covid-19 cases
As students head back to campus, US colleges try to prevent and combat Covid-19 cases
UNC-Chapel Hill goes to remote learning after 135 COVID-19 cases
UNC-Chapel Hill goes to remote learning after 135 COVID-19 cases within week of starting classes
Hundreds Covid-19 cases reported as students return to college
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Hundreds of Covid-19 cases reported as students return to college campuses
8 days into semester, Notre Dame halts in-person classes
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8 days into semester, Notre Dame halts in-person classes as 146 students get coronavirus
Am I missing something?
How come the UT and County schools numbers aren't reflected in Knox County numbers? Or am I just missing the connection?
UTK Chancellor on CNN now
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UTK Chancellor on CNN now with Anderson Cooper
Bearden football
It’s Wednesday. Bearden shut down football last Friday. The team/school is just now getting around to advising all players to quarantine and isolate. Apparently this disease is contagious. Who knew?
Edit: Update on the young man at Bearden. Looked like he was getting better for a day, then fever went back up and hallucinations set in. Hopefully, there is no imminent danger, nor long term effects. It’s scary.
Bearden
It appears four coaches and an undetermined number of players have tested positive. Look for a similar situation to go down at Powell.
American Airlines is dropping service to these 15 cities
American Airlines is dropping service to these 15 cities. This is likely only the beginning
The odds of catching Covid-19 on an airplane
The odds of catching Covid-19 on an airplane are slimmer than you think, scientists say
1 in 4,300? Reckless and irresponsible
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A 1-in-4,300 chance of catching C-19 on a full flight means that another 18,000 Americans will get C-19 every month, resulting in 19 additional C-19 deaths every day. The Knoxville Airport Authority has this blood on its hands. Murderous. It should ground all TYS passenger traffic - or at least institute a 10:00 pm curfew.
The pandemic seems to be
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The pandemic seems to be freaking you out more than usual, Moon.
Why is it such a problem that people want to protect themselves from death or serious illness from COVID-19? For some the long-term effects can be bad and shorten lives.
The article seems to be a bit anecdotal. Very little data. Not sure it is worthwhile.
thank you
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My point, exactly.
Seems like something you'd want to know
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If one was considering flying on an airplane.
The two planes mentioned
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The two planes mentioned rarely, if ever, fly out of airports the size of Knoxville, and many other airports.
There is not much data to support the statements.
Saw a video the othe day where passengers got into a fight because a passenger refused to wear a mask. The seating plan did not allow for much distancing. The plane looked about the size, or bigger, of planes flying out of TYS.
I feel sorry for anyone who has to fly, as a necessity. I cannot imagine why anyone would want to fly for pleasure.
Thanks
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Good to know. I rarely fly and try to avoid the airport at all costs. Good to know though.
Seems like they would not be
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Seems like they would not be allowed to enter the plane without a mask.
After you let someone on the plane without a mask it can be a lot of trouble to get them off.
Fight on American Airlines
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Fight on American Airlines flight before departing.
Boston University, other schools deploy robots
Boston University, other schools deploy robots so campuses can safely reopen during pandemic
How does coronavirus spread at a concert? Germans do a test
How does coronavirus spread at a concert? Germans do a test
COVID Concert Experiment Shares Results
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Restart-19 COVID Concert Experiment Shares Results
Knox County commissioner tests positive for COVID-19
Knox County commissioner tests positive for COVID-19, two others in quarantine
School tracks where students are at all times
At Oklahoma State University, students' steps are tracked to stop the coronavirus
Mask dispute leads to couple's assault on teen
Mask dispute leads to couple's assault on teen Sesame Place worker, police say
COVID-19's threat of death keeps masks and other preventive measures from being used
Disgusting. Many thanks to
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Disgusting.
Many thanks to the president for encouraging violence.
University of Alabama over 500 Covid cases
University of Alabama over 500 Covid cases one week into classes
Iowa State University reports 130 COVID-19 cases for first week
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Iowa State University reports 130 COVID-19 cases for first week of classes
Ohio State University suspends 228 students
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The Ohio State University suspends 228 students for violating pandemic precautions even before classes begin
Outbreaks identified at 4 sororities at Kansas State University
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Coronavirus outbreaks identified at 4 sororities at Kansas State University
Over 1,000 students have tested positive for Covid-19 at Alabama
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Over 1,000 students have tested positive for Covid-19 at University of Alabama since classes resumed
Delta’s No-Fly List Has Grown By 240 Because Of Mask Refusals
Delta’s No-Fly List Has Grown By 240 Because Of Mask Refusals
U.T.
It will be interesting to see to what degree UT handles both the spread of covid through the college campus and how it impacts the community. It will be equally as interesting to see to what degree business owners hold each other accountable for operating in the best interest of the market.
It will be interesting to see if these kids will grasp the concept of, "This isn't the last time you'll deal with something like this, it's the first." I know they don't grasp the concept of, "This one's really contagious." It's a global warming thing.A small deviation in temperature makes all the difference in the world, in a chemical reaction. We're going into uncharted territory.
It will be fascinating to watch how the downtown business owners keep coming together. I can see a "high dollar mask required doing the best we can, and hey, we got fans atmosphere." Do key fob in town contact tracing. When your bar's full, send customers to the next guy.If you patronize downtown businesses, they will be doing all they can to ensure that the disease isn't being spread, and in the inevitable situation that they find it in the restaurant district, those exposed can and will be informed. This would have to be a city initiative. I don't think the Board of Health has the staffing to handle something like this. Allow bar/restaurant owners holding privileges to key fobs, unless they were needed for tracing.
I think that's how you make the most money in Knoxville. Run it with a strict scientific policy, and back it up with the level of regulation it needs. That, quite frankly, has been the problem with Glenn Jacobs. He keeps acting like things are going to go back to how they were if he just does nothing. All he had to do was get on board with a mask policy when he seized Indya Kincannon's power, back at the end of April. That's all he had to do. Indya had done the heavy lifting, took the heat for being tough, never got the credit for what she accomplished. Between her and Dr. Buchanan, they got active cases down to thirteen before the anti-masker protests started showing up in the numbers. They were a good team. All Glenn Jacobs had to do was get on board with doing the right thing. All he had to do was the smart thing. All he had to do was his job. The work had all been done. All he had to do was let it go on, and take the credit. All he had to do was not screw it up. Had Glenn Jacobs done that, had he gotten behind a strong, bold, fashionable, Voltriotic, working plan involving masks, we'd be discussing how to make things up to overflow fans, not whether or not the UT students could infect the whole town.
It was nice seeing what
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It was nice seeing what appeared to be all the BLM protesters on campus were wearing masks.
Yes it was.
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Quite the contrast to the strip the night before.
9/1/2020
Starting September with 2316 active cases. 58 Deaths. 3.17% death rate in 65-74 year old range. 8.99% hospitalization (bankruptcy?) rate. 16 deaths, 1.02% death rate on my group, 45-64. 6.34% bankruptcy rate. This doesn't look good. Glenn Jacobs has turned what should have been the prime of our lives into some sort of dystopian nightmare whereby the younger generation infects the old and takes their money. This is what we get to live through in our prime of life? When is this guy going to start offering solutions, instead of ways to make this situation worse?
It's going to be a long, sickly September.
Eerie
I know I worked late, and that it was raining, and that it was Tuesday, but tonight was the first night, since Indya was running the city's show that this town showed an indication that it could defeat the virus and still stay open. Masks work. Social distancing works. 10 o'clock curfews are a good idea to reduce the rate of infection. This should be measured and permitted accordingly.
I think that, right now, if what it takes to make it happen gets done, we've got a shot at football season. I also think the active case count will rise this week. This needs to be dealt with swiftly.
But in the dark, I saw hope. We can stay apart and holler through whatever is over our face, and still have football. We can day drink and go home. Plan our bad judgement and reduce the odds accordingly. We can control this situation if we work together as a community.
Well, what a positive
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Well, what a positive outlook. Working together as a community is great. I can only hope it gets better. It will get better, but at what cost?
Tom Seaver dies of COVID-19, dementia at 75
Hall of Fame pitcher Tom Seaver dies of COVID-19, dementia at 75
Big, tough, healthy guy with
Big, tough, healthy guy with a warning...
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Indiana Univ. calling for closure of 40 frat, sorority houses
Coronavirus spreading fast at frat, sorority houses at Indiana Univ., which wants them closed
University of South Carolina records 1,026 COVID cases
University of South Carolina records 1,026 COVID cases
UTs first game is against
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UTs first game is against South Carolina.
The new normal, numbers.
For the numbers nerds (like me) that pay attention to active cases, hospitalizations and deaths everyday, which I then cross check with what I observe with my own eyes on a nightly survey, you may have noticed a rather dramatic shift (a couple actually) in our active case numbers. A new metric is being used which drops a case from active to recovered in 14 days instead of 21.
Since I'm not a statistician, nor a pandemic expert, I don't feel qualified to offer an opinion as to whether of not the change was justified, but as a guy that tracks these numbers and compares them to what I see on the streets, I can tell you they are significant. On September 4th, 900 active cases were simply dropped from active to inactive (about 125 a day). This will affect the look of the numbers in two ways. First, it is a huge daily drop right off the bat. (Where did these 900 cases go?) Second, it will make the upcoming week appear to be a statistical nightmare (It was going to be bad to begin with.) The real effect it will have is masking just how bad this week is.
We are coming out of a pretty significant downturn. The mask ordinance and alcohol curfew had both translated into lower daily case numbers. I found the alcohol curfew most interesting because, until now, it has been self regulating. It was a unique experiment into what happens when you allow businesses the opportunity to do the right thing and regulate themselves. When taken as a whole, downtown businesses responded surprisingly well. While there are obvious and notable exceptions, by and large, downtown businesses have shown the capacity to recognize our situation for what it is and adjust their business plans accordingly. While clearly not having a perfect response, they have shown the capacity to adapt to the current climate. Most (over half) of them anyway. There has been an attempt to operate within the spirit , if not the letter, of the law. I always try to remember that the object of any regulation is to reduce the spread of the virus, not destroy the life of business of people the regulation affects.
The rest of our town can make no such boasts. Those attempting to comply are the exception, rather than the rule. The exceptions are there, but their neighbors are doing as much to kill their business as any regulation could. Move-in weekend and week was not that bad. I was rather surprised, and found a bit of hope, in that. Starting the following weekend, it became the wild, wild west. The Strip has turned into a nightly superspreader event and various so-called restaurants in other areas of town have begun packing in a late night crowd that appears to be far more interested into packing in a small area and drinking rather than social distancing and enjoying a meal.
We have begun another uptick, and this surge looks to be worse than the July surge. Our lack of enforcement of the 10 o'clock curfew is fixing to bite us in the butt. This would appear to be our largest surge yet, with three weeks of much larger numbers facing us in the short term. We've had 660 new cases in the last four days and that trend should hold for at least a couple weeks. It could get worse.
There may be a way to curb this surge without a complete 10 o'clock curfew on on premise alcohol sales, but I don't see it. And if something doesn't get done, there may be no alternative except a shut down. Something's going to have to happen. The numbers are unsustainable once again.
In person school began two
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In person school began two weeks ago. Don't put all the responsibility on bars.
Those numbers
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Those numbers won't really start showing up for a couple days.I do my survey on the ride home for work. Our case numbers run on about a 10-18 day delay from time of transmission to time when they show up in Health Department numbers.
I'm not an expert as to why this is, it's just an observed phenomena. I had chalked it up to incubation/transmission from infected source / delay in getting testing numbers. I look for the school numbers to start hitting this week, (though the last couple days could show some influence). I am not as in tune as to what to expect from schools as I am how street activity numbers relate to the big picture.
Depending on their effect, school numbers could present a serious issue that is just now showing up. Someone should probably be tracking schools as well though. They will be showing first wave results this week with secondary transmissions coming shortly thereafter.
You're right as it relates to multiple factors affecting the surge however. This next one will be a true community effort.
OMG, i went to Walmart today
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OMG, i went to Walmart today around 11:15am to pick up a grocery item I couldn't get at my local grocer. Kind of freaked out a bit. Haven't been around that many maskless people since before the pandemic.
Will only be going there first thing in the morning of from now on.
Yeah
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There seems to be a counter-attack being launched by the maskless.
Cedar Bluff Middle which is
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Cedar Bluff Middle which is walking distance from the Kroger that had an outbreak, but they aren't the only school with active cases.
Knox County reports record-high 224 new COVID-19 cases
Knox County reports record-high 224 new COVID-19 cases, 50 current hospitalizations
West Virginia University suspends in-person undergrad classes
West Virginia University suspends in-person undergrad classes amid spike in COVID cases
Counties with the highest number of recent cases per resident
Unless I am reading this wrong, a Tennessee county, Wayne, has by far the largest
number of virus cases the last 7 days. 1,189 cases the last 7 days. The second most is 323.
Counties with the highest number of recent cases per resident
University of Wisconsin-Madison restricts student movement
University of Wisconsin-Madison restricts student movement after coronavirus surge
And what about UT?
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1. Rent an entire hotel for quarantine space.
2. Massey Hall Residents being relocated to use the entire dorm as quarantine space.
3. There was a rumor that the Chancellor is meeting with the faculty tonight, so that could mean going online for at least a while, but the post dropped off the UTK subreddit. Still might be true.
Plowman tonight
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Chancellor Plowman is due to address the Board of Health during their meeting at 5:00 pm tonight. I’d say this will be an interesting Board of Health meeting. It’s broadcast on YouTube on the Knox County channel.
Plowman tonight
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Chancellor Plowman is due to address the Board of Health during their meeting at 5:00 pm tonight. I’d say this will be an interesting Board of Health meeting. It’s broadcast on YouTube on the Knox County channel.
University of Wisconsin-Madison restricts student movement
University of Wisconsin-Madison restricts student movement after coronavirus surge
One new death has been recorded every 106 seconds over 7 days
U.S. closes in on grim pandemic milestone: the 200,000th COVID-19 death
What's wrong with
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What's wrong with people?!?!?
It's obvious some people don't care about others or our society. Disgusting.
States are torn between saving bars and stopping coronavirus
With Washington silent, states are torn between saving bars and stopping coronavirus
Wuut?
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...states are torn between saving bars and stopping coronavirus.
In only the neoliberalist catastrophe now known as Trump's America could this not be satire.
+1
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+1
Knoxviews history
All this stuff is coming to light about who knew what in February. As I recall, just concern became an issue on this forum in late February.
I wonder if there's a way to go through archived facebook postings?
Is there a way to cross-reference on this site?
Please pardon me if these are basic, stupid, ignorant questions. I just write and look shit up with a computer, I don't really know how to use one.
Over on the far tight column
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Over on the far tight column there are links to search and archives.
March 6 was the first post
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March 6 was the first post about the coronavirus on Knoxviews.
March 3 Election
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We were already taking some precautions at the March 3 election, wiping down machines and washing our hands. One voter who regularly votes on Election Day did not show up, and he reportedly was ill, later diagnosed with COVID-19.
CDC report links dining out to increased COVID-19 risk
As states lift restaurant restrictions, CDC report links dining out to increased COVID-19 risk
Found this on Feb. 26
I feel like I'm a part of a primary source historical document.
When speaking up for the Board of Health
One takes a lot of abuse these days from people who's education about covid seems to have hit a wall in March. I was curious how far back we went. Trump could not have gotten away with lying like he did about the seriousness of the issue if his followers hadn't been so willfully ignorant.
Thanks Randy and Biz for all you do. This forum has consistently lead the way on coverage of this issue. I'm honored and humbled to be a part of it.
Weekly Updates by Demographic & Geographic Characteristics
Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics
Teacher departures leave schools scrambling for substitutes amid
Teacher departures leave schools scrambling for substitutes amid COVID-19
Coronavirus death toll from Maine wedding rises to 7
Coronavirus death toll from Maine wedding rises to 7, with over 175 infected
CDC head, masks may be better at halting spread than vaccine
CDC head says masks may be better at halting spread than vaccine
If Glenn Jacobs doesn't get his cult in order
We'll be at 200 deaths by January. That's the kind of death toll that affects most members of a community our size.
Florida will reopen bars and restaurants with no restrictions
Florida, hard hit by coronavirus this summer, will reopen bars and restaurants with no restrictions
Beginning this week, the Maps
Google updates Maps to show how bad Covid is in your area
Just so we all know what we're talking about,....
Knox County Charter, State Law, and Extracts of Attorney General Opinions on County Boards of Health
Knox County Charter
Sec. 38-33. - County board of health.
(a)There is hereby created a county board of health. It shall have all of the powers and duties as required and provided for by state law.
(b)The director of the department of health shall report to, and work in concert with, the county board of health, in addition to reporting to and working with the county executive.
TCA on Public Health Boards
68-2-601. County board of health — Members — Powers and duties.
f) The powers and duties of county boards of health are to:
(1) Govern the policies of full-time county health departments established in accordance with this chapter;
(2) Through the county health director or the county health officer, or both, enforce such rules and regulations as may be prescribed by the commissioner essential to the control of preventable diseases and the promotion and maintenance of the general health of the county;
(3) Adopt rules and regulations as may be necessary or appropriate to protect the general health and safety of the citizens of the county. The regulations shall be at least as stringent as the standard established by a state law or regulation as applicable to the same or similar subject matter. Regulations of a county board of health supersede less stringent or conflicting local ordinances; and
(4) Require that an annual budget be prepared and, when this budget has been approved by the county board of health, submit the same to the county legislative body for consideration and subsequent provision of necessary funds to meet all obligations under the adopted budgets.
68-2-602. Violations of rules and regulations of county board — Penalty.
Any person who violates a county board of health regulation commits a Class C misdemeanor.
68-2-603. Establishment of county health department — County health director — County health officer.
(2) The county health director shall be appointed by the commissioner of health or by the commissioner's designee, act as the administrative officer of the county health department, take actions and make determinations necessary to properly execute the state department of health's programs, and adequately enforce the rules and regulations established by the commissioner and the county board of health.
68-2-609. Orders of county health officer.
The county health officer is empowered to order:
(1) The quarantine of any place or person, if the county health officer finds that quarantine is necessary to protect the public health from an epidemic;
(2) The closure of any public establishment, facility or building if the county health officer finds unsanitary conditions of such a nature and extent to significantly threaten the public health; or
(3) The closure of any public establishment, facility or building, if the county health officer is otherwise authorized by law to take that action.
Attorney General Opinions
Below is an extract of state law from an opinion of the Attorney General on the powers of a local board of health and health department in non-state of emergency situation
The General Assembly has, however, authorized local health departments to adopt regulations more stringent or restrictive than those provided by state law or regulation. Tenn.Code Ann.§68-2-601(f)(3)(authorizing adoption of regulations to “protect the general health and safety of the citizens of the county” that “shall be at least as stringent as the standard established by a state law or regulation as applicable to the same or similar subject matter”). And the Commissioner of the Department of Health, acting under statutory authority to promulgate rules to prevent the spread of disease, Tenn. Code Ann. §§ 68-1-201, 68-5-104, has given local health officers confronted with an epidemic the power—indeed, the obligation—to “[e]stablish appropriate control measures which may include examination, treatment, isolation, quarantine, exclusion, disinfection, immunization, disease surveillance, closure of establishment, education, and other measures considered appropriate by medical experts for the protection of the public’s health.” Tenn.Comp.R.&Regs.1200-14-01-.15. Actions by local health departments under this authority have the force and effect of law in the absence of action by the Governor.
In state of emergencies, below is another extract from an Attorney General opinion in 2020.
The General Assembly has vested the Governor with exclusive responsibility and authority to assume control over all aspects of the State’s response to an emergency such as the COVID-19 pandemic. Tenn.CodeAnn.§58-2-107(a)(1). Because the executive orders that the Governor issues pursuant to that authority have the force and effect of law, Tenn. Code Ann. § 58-2- 107(a)(2), the Governor’s directives in response to an emergency supersede and preempt any action taken by political subdivisions of the State.
Just as the Governor may exercise his authority under Tenn. Code Ann. § 58-2-107(a)(1) to delegate to a local governmental entity or to the local health department “such powers as the governor may deem prudent,” the Governor may exercise his emergency powers to expressly authorize, or recognize the authority of, county health departments to take necessary actions. The Governor’s power to issue these executive orders is grounded in the broad grant of authority—a responsibility and authority that the General Assembly has vested solely in the office of the governor—to assume control over all aspects of the State’s response to an emergency such as the COVID-19 pandemic:
Pertinent here, on May 22, 2020, Governor Lee issued Executive Order 38 whichauthorizes the six counties with locally-run county health departments—i.e., Davidson, Hamilton, Knox, Madison, Shelby, and Sullivan—to issue “additional orders or measures related to the containment or management of the spread of COVID- 19, which may permit to a greater degree, or restrict to a greater degree, the opening, closure, or operation of businesses, organizations, or venues in those counties or the gathering of persons.
Executive Order 54, issued on July 6, 2020, expanded the scope of Executive Order 38 and provides that nothing in Executive Order 38 (or Executive Order 54 itself) preempts or supersedes the authority of bodies in the six counties with locally-run county health departments to issue or enact orders, ordinances, rules, or law to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.
Thanks to Senator Briggs
924 cases
!0/2/20. This is despite two large downward adjustments to the formula determining active cases over the last month. I believe the metric states 27-47 for a full reopen. The pro-infection (I'm still struggling with figuring out exactly what terminology to use for a group of people attempting to infect unwilling citizens)is insisting that is impossible and we should open without restrictions after disbanding the Board of Health.
These were the same people that applauded the full (underground) opening of the bars May 2 despite restrictions being in place until June. They said then we only had five deaths and face masks violated their rights. Jacobs was warned that deaths would skyrocket as a direct result of his actions. We now have 84 deaths, all statistically correlating with move Jacobs has made that increased the infection rate and undermined mitigation effort. Over 5000 people have viewed an economic pushback measure.
What do we call these people?
Disheartening
I got off late and didn't get to start home until well after eleven. I was kind of looking forward to a Tom Waits'y drive home. I've been taking the same route home since March. I set it up like we set up the acid deposition study in the early nineties. Do the same thing and observe, every night, and see what happens.
It doesn't look like the eleven o'clock curfew as it is being instituted will make a statistical influence. Ironically, the solution to that is to move it back to ten, because it is statistically impossible for this measure to not show up. Somebody is jacking the numbers around. Like maybe the guys keeping their bars open.
We are in a trough. We tend to surge and trough rather regularly. We are getting ready to surge, by how much, is anyone's guess. Our plateau levels between surge and trough keep rising. We can't sustain that.
Honestly, for a capitalist, free market approach to this problem to work, there will be work shutdowns and consumer boycotts. Our consumer market isn't making its voice heard, and when they do, the market will adjust.
So restaurants/bars can seat
So restaurants/bars can seat folks at bar now?
At Texas Roadhouse in Kingston Pike and they are seating at bar.
There are no rules.
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Nothing is being enforced. Unless you take it upon yourself to know exactly what's going on, you're best to stay home.
On that note, if Hen and Hoc is inconvenient, the Holy Hombeg trifecta, Hollie's Gourmet Market, Willies Butcher Shop and the Shrimp Dock will prepare to order. Stuff like this works really well once a routine is set. This town's covid policy is every man for himself. I'm going to work on providing sanctuary consumer sites for a while. Or at least add that to the reporting repertoire.
Visualizing Speech-Generated Oral Fluid Droplets with Laser
Visualizing Speech-Generated Oral Fluid Droplets with Laser Light Scattering
One week later
Working the Holy Homburg Trifecta this weekend. I think the town will be dependent on the various suburbs to keep our covid numbers down. Old City and downtown were shutting down or shut down around 11:30. I not only thought it was encouraging, but could observe dispersal behavior to see how this worked.
The Strip was a work in progress when I went through. That being said, that is the business community that shut this problem down and made football happen, at all and for all. There are problems, but this town owes the three high volume nightspots, that have been working toward a solution a huge debt of gratitude. Hopefully game days will make up for your effort. Use masks. Sell masks. Have a smart plan.
Sunday, Monday and Tuesday numbers should tell the tale of the next month.
South Carolina Numbers
The South Carolina spike showed today, right on time. Could have been worse, we needed it to be better. We have our work cut out for us.
County commission bump is next. That should show in the next three days. The thing is, that first commission number Sunday should also have a secondary influence from the game.
I find my mind wandering back to High School math classes and listening to people cry, "What are we ever gonna use this for?" and then I look at these statistics I'm trying to learn how to pattern and I think, I wish I'd have listened closer and applied myself more in my math and statistics classes.
Google map of Covid-19
Covid map of Tennessee and other states
Restaurants find creative winter outdoor dining solutions, but e
Restaurants find creative winter outdoor dining solutions, but experts cite concerns
Delta adds 460 passengers who refused masks to 'no-fly' list
Nice work Delta
Delta adds 460 passengers who refused masks to 'no-fly' list
People with Down syndrome have 10 times the risk of death
People with Down syndrome have 10 times the risk of death from Covid-19 as those without, study finds
COVID-19 Mortality Risk in Down Syndrome: Results From a Cohort Study Of 8 Million Adults
Sunday, October 25, 2020
The 100th death occurred from covid-19 in Knox County. Monday night, we will hear Debbi, the nurse from Halls explain why this is a hoax and why we should ignore the experts and listen to her because she is a nurse or some sort of health professional. There is a reason the 37918 zip code continues to expand in cases faster than anywhere else in Knox County.
Maryland Voter Arrested After Refusing To Wear Mask
He must have a lot of free time
Maryland Voter Arrested After Refusing To Wear Mask At Polling Location In Harford County, Police Say
Sisters charged for allegedly stabbing security guard over masks
Sisters charged for allegedly stabbing store security guard 27 times after he told them to wear a mask
Record day COVID-19-related deaths in TN; Blount County 5 more
Record day for COVID-19-related deaths in TN; Blount County sees 5 more
US just reported 102,831 new Covid-19 infections in 1 day
The US just reported 102,831 new Covid-19 infections in 1 day. That's an all-time high
But I thought......
(in reply to jbr)
All the Trump supporters said this would all go away in November 4. How can this be?
Yeah. Guess they lied again.
(in reply to fischbobber)
Yeah. Guess they lied again.
I'm shocked.
(in reply to bizgrrl)
Shocked I say. Is nothing sacred?
Clots, Strokes, Rashes. Is COVID-19 A Disease Of Blood Vessels?
Clots, Strokes And Rashes. Is COVID-19 A Disease Of The Blood Vessels?
Saturday, there were 126,742 new coronavirus cases
US has hit the highest daily number of new cases since the pandemic began
U.S. Hits New Coronavirus Case Record for Third Straight Day
Dr. Fauci reacts to Pfizer's vaccine announcement
Dr. Fauci reacts to Pfizer's vaccine announcement
Texas just became the first US state to hit 1 million cases
Texas just became the first US state to hit 1 million cases of Covid-19
'Breakthrough finding' reveals why certain Covid-19 patients die
'Breakthrough finding' reveals why certain Covid-19 patients die
65 Covid cases reported in WHO staff
65 Covid cases reported in WHO staff based at Geneva headquarters
Knoxville running out of covid icu capability
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Over 1 million US children have been diagnosed with Covid-19
Over 1 million US children have been diagnosed with Covid-19, pediatricians say
Nurse: Patients test positive refuse to believe they have Covid
Nurse: Some patients who test positive refuse to believe they have Covid-19
Elderly people are dying from isolation
The hidden Covid-19 crisis: Elderly people are dying from isolation
Seems like..
(in reply to jbr)
Why can't folks help the residents use Zoom? Or take them to the lobby to wave at folks who've come to visit? Maybe we could hire some folks to test out ways of solving this problem. As long as the tests are promised and shown to do no harm, they should proceed to the betterment of all.
It sounds like covid isn't causing as many problems as it's exposing.
More than 900 Mayo Clinic staff in Midwest diagnosed with Covid
More than 900 Mayo Clinic staff in Midwest diagnosed with Covid-19 in past two weeks
So sad. I feel for hospital
(in reply to jbr)
So sad. I feel for hospital workers, all essential workers, that they have to work in environments where so many people don't care about others, especially the others that work hard to serve us all.
CDC:Most coronavirus cases are spread by people without symptoms
Most coronavirus cases are spread by people without symptoms, CDC now says
28% increase in child Covid-19 cases over the last two weeks
There was a 28% increase in child Covid-19 cases over the last two weeks, American Academy of Pediatrics says
Covid-19 outbreaks in nursing homes hit record high
Covid-19 outbreaks in nursing homes hit record high
I really wonder about this
(in reply to jbr)
I really wonder about this problem. Are the places not following guidelines? Or, are they not insisting the employees be careful? So sad.
Oh, Tennessee tracks assisted living center cases, or at least they used to.
Congregate care
(in reply to bizgrrl)
My 95 year old aunt lives in a retirement center in town (not a nursing home or assisted living). They sent out a notice this week about Thanksgiving that basically said "we continue our policy that denies entrance to our facility for anyone who doesn't work or live there, we have discontinued our outdoor visitation option due to the high rate of COVID, and we are begging you not to go have Thanksgiving with your family, but we can't mandate anything."
The state of Tennessee has not given them any power to say, "you can leave, but you can't come back" or "you can leave, but we're going to stick you in quarantine when you get back" or any other version of "you can't leave", so God knows what will happen after Thanksgiving. Nursing homes and assisted living facilities have a bit more leeway to prevent their patients from leaving.
I'll also point out that the people who work in nursing homes are often some of the most overworked, underpaid people in our society. Which limits their living options. Which means they are often people of color, who as we know have been much more likely to catch COVID, for various reasons. Which means that staff is a vector for COVID into nursing homes and other congregate care facilities, no matter how careful they are.
You just make some important
(in reply to mjw)
You just make some important points.
I've dealt with a few different nursing homes. I agree the employees are underpaid. However, I also know some nursing homes do a much better job than others.
As cases and community density of cases go up......
(in reply to bizgrrl)
Wouldn't it just be more likely for an active case to vector into an assisted living facility via their staff? It seems on of the more insidious aspects of covid is its asymptomatic transmission. I haven't seen the documentation, but I figured that was happening.
I wonder......
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Does this mean Glenn Jacob's cult various assaults on innocent citizens activities are now constitutionally protected? How long until they declare themselves a religion?
Almost forgot.
Happy Thanksgiving.
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An all time favorite.
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An all time favorite.
Update
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We're all getting old. Some of our Mayor's are doing their damnedest to speed our demise. Kinda sad.
27 8x10 color glossys - oh my!
(in reply to fischbobber)
I usually listen to this every year around Thanksgiving, but had forgotten to this year. Thanks for the reminder! There's nothing like a good old-fashioned war protest song to get my blood pumping.
Stay away from Obie!
Coronavirus stable for hours on surfaces
New coronavirus stable for hours on surfaces
That was the thought in March
(in reply to jbr)
Here's a newer article from The Lancet:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30514-2/fulltext
"However, latest research suggests that this is unlikely to be a major route of transmission as although SARS-CoV-2 can persist for days on inanimate surfaces, attempts to culture the virus from these surfaces were unsuccessful."
Thanks. I thought there was
(in reply to jmcnair)
Thanks. I thought there was some updated information. This is all so new. Much of the information changes and it can be hard to keep up. Have to look at the dates of articles.
More bits and pieces
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Slowly but surely we're adding to our body of knowledge.
US reports 3,100 plus coronavirus deaths, single day record
US reports more than 3,100 coronavirus deaths, shattering single-day record
Rudy Giuliani tests positive for COVID
Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani tests positive for COVID
Margaret Keenan, 90, first person in world to receive vaccine
Britain becomes first to roll out clinically approved BioNTech-Pfizer vaccine
Martin Kenyon, a 91-year-old Briton who received the vaccine
(in reply to jbr)
Martin Kenyon, a 91-year-old Briton who received the Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine
U.K. nurse who administered first Covid vaccine feels ‘thankful
(in reply to jbr)
U.K. nurse who administered first Covid vaccine feels ‘thankful and proud’
The Taming of the Flu
And in the You Can't Make This Stuff Up department, the second vaccine recipient was William Shakespeare.
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Ya gotta love the Brits.
(in reply to Factchecker)
Ya gotta love the Brits.
This literally pisses me off
This literally pisses me off about our state leaders.
The Texas secretary of state is trying to overturn elections in Georgia, Michigan, Pennslvania and Wisconsin in hopes that Trump will grant him a pardon from the alleged crimes he's committed if he can help keep Trump in office. I think it's a crime that our state is supporting this crook. This is literally a destruction of our democracy being assisted by our state leaders
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It's a coup. Arrest them for
(in reply to JaHu)
It's a coup. Arrest them for treason.
This should really piss off
(in reply to bizgrrl)
This should really piss off everyone in Tennessee who voted by mail because our state Attorney General is basically saying that he doesn't believe your vote should count just because you felt, for public safety and yours, that you chose to vote by mail. It not only should tick off the ones who voted by mail but also family members who may have voted in person but have elderly who needed to vote by mail because of the dangerous risk to their health and lives of in person voting.
Hunter Biden Now Under FBI Probe
Why is the FBI doing this now and not waiting til after Biden has been inaugurated? It's like throwing gas on a fire. It's just one more thing Trump and his supporters are going to use to say the election should be overturned. It reminds me of when James Comey brought up Hillary's emails right before the 2016 election which ended up being baseless nonsense that cost her the election.
"Activity in the investigation had gone covert in recent months due to Justice Department guidelines prohibiting overt actions that could affect an election"
To me then, this investigation is illegal because Biden isn't officially in office yet.
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Tennessee pastor: Covid-19 is not a pandemic
Vaccines on horizon as virus surges through Trump country. And the political debate is as heated as ever
Deplorable.
(in reply to jbr)
Deplorable.
Do you have Christmas
Do you have Christmas packages that are delayed in shipping? I do one was mailed from Atlanta and sent to Memphis where it's been sitting idle at a USPS warehouse for five days. Memphis??? When Atlanta is only three hours away?
Just keep this in mind, these delays were brought to you by Trump and DeJoy his appointed Postmaster General in their alledged ongoing sabotage of the US Postal Service.
And by the way, Christmas presents bought online shouldn't be counted as real Christmas presents because they were sent by mail and Texas doesn't believe the rules should be changed about how gifts are given.
Haven't had any packages
(in reply to JaHu)
Haven't had any packages delayed.
Have noticed in our area the mail was running late, but ok now. The postal package deliveries have been coming morning, noon, and night, even on Sundays. They are very busy.
I have three delayed during
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I have three delayed during shipment from two different sources. I must have ticked off the Postal service. :)
I've noticed I've really become very bitter throughout this whole Trump presidency fiasco.
On being bitter....
(in reply to JaHu)
That is a brilliant observation. I’ve noticed the same about myself. As I struggle to find ways to describe the willful killing of one’s fellow man via a novel method, I struggled to find the words to describe what a group of those folks would be called and how to refer to their actions. I find that describing these situations with words suited for a multi-generational diner gathering don’t adequately describe the absolute depravity of what’s happening, and the words that capture that depravity seem to spark outrage from those that insist we keep public discourse on the subject of killing our fellow man in cold blood for no real reason civil. What’s civil about 208 dead people killed by a policy deliberately instituted with the knowledge that the result would be those deaths? I’m losing patience with the human race in general.
What words should I be using? I’m sheltering in place. Get off my lawn.
Agreed!!! And I don't
(in reply to fischbobber)
Agreed!!! And I don't understand why a huge, maybe not majority, but many people don't seem to be able to comprehend this.
Get off my lawn. Hah!
(in reply to fischbobber)
Get off my lawn.
Hah!
By the way, I don't blame the
(in reply to bizgrrl)
By the way, I don't blame the Postal carriers or the people who work in the local post offices or distribution centers, I'm certain they are being overworked. I blame the top dogs or dog who's running the USPS for making it harder, not easier for them to do their jobs.
When the Proud Boys and other
When the Proud Boys and other Trump supporting protesters commit acts of violence to try to overturn the election? Are they or are they not committing treason? Until somehow the election is overturned in court, which at this juncture, is highly unlikely. Any person committing a violent act against someone who is defending Biden's win is committing a treasonous act against our constitution. We are a country of laws and the constitution is our highest law. And if a person committing the violence a member of a group, doesn't this mean the group is in essence declaring war on our democracy?
Just asking.
Insurrection
(in reply to JaHu)
Now that violence has ensued, according to the 14th amendment, Tim should be disqualified from serving in elected office for his willful participation in an insurrection. I’m not sure of the procedure, or if there even is an established procedure, or if legal definitions always run lockstep with standard English dictionary definitions, but if we use Tim’s “Aw shucks, common man common sense standard” he shouldn’t be seated.
Covid patients may need heart screening before exercising again
Some recovered Covid patients may need heart screening before exercising again
France's Emmanuel Macron tests positive for Covid-19
France's Emmanuel Macron tests positive for Covid-19, sending other European leaders into quarantine
Current shipping situation.I
Current shipping situation.
I ordered a small item on the 3rd of December which was being shipped from Atlanta. From there it was shipped to Memphis which is farther away, where it sat for 12 days. It is currently sitting in Tallahassee Florida which is even farther away. Luckily it's not a Christmas gift but I had planed to use it for Christmas.
Thanks Dejoy for making our postal service better.
Makes one wonder if there could be millions more Biden votes floating around out there?
Fingers crossed! The item I
(in reply to JaHu)
Fingers crossed!
The item I ordered online might get to visit almost as many cities as Santa. Each update, it gets farther and farther away. I'm thinking LA on the next update. Then who knows, maybe Hong Kong. Or maybe the North Pole and into Santa's bag and maybe he'll drop it off during his round.
I'll be sure to put out milk and cookies just in case.
I'm not putting any of the blame of this on the postal workers. They have to be extremely overworked. First due to the pandemic forcing more people to buy online, and then capped off by the Christmas season probably quadrupling their normal loads. The cutbacks put in place by the current administration has done almost irreparable damage to this national institution. I hope when Biden takes office he will attempt to reverse the damage that has been done to the postal service.
Be sure to remember your postal workers this season to show that you do appreciate them.
I think it is sort of lost,
(in reply to JaHu)
I think it is sort of lost, but trackable. Should be interesting if you ever receive it.
How do you remember a postal worker? I remember many years ago my Mother would leave them little packages. What is done in this century?
I don't know if is kosher
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I don't know if it is kosher during this pandemic, or even legal, but I have left the carrier a tip with a thank you note. I consider them front line workers and deserve more pay.
I had one gift that I ordered that was supposed to be delivered to me, but was instead, delivered to an address in Murfreesboro. Don't quite understand that one? But I think the people who I ordered the gift through, somehow put the wrong address on it.
Cookies
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I gave a couple oatmeal-chocolate chip-raisin cookies I made to my postal carrier today.
How do you remember a postal worker?
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I buy postal worker greeting cards from online card shop
and enclose crisp disinfected $20 bill.
I always receive an official looking
usps thank you card/receipt in return.
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$20
“Under these federal regulations, carriers are permitted to accept a gift worth $20 or less from a customer per occasion, such as Christmas,” it states on the USPS website.
“However, cash and cash equivalents, such as checks or gift cards that can be exchanged for cash, must never be accepted in any amount.
Package update!
(in reply to JaHu)
The little item I ordered, is probably in a box approximately two or three inches wide and maybe five or six inches tall. It has gone from Atlanta, which is only 200 miles away, to Memphis to Tallahassee and now to Oxford Mississippi which is not far below Memphis. By air, it is closer to Knoxville but by truck it is farther than Memphis or Tallahassee and definitely farther than Atlanta. I estimate that this beautiful little bouncing box of bits has traveled over 1700 miles so far and still isn't close to reaching its destination. Imagine the fuel spent on this delivery.
The delivery of this item is no longer priority to me, I've since replaced it with one I purchased from a store. As the old saying goes, reaching the final destination isn't as enjoyable as the journey itself.
I personally have to commend
(in reply to JaHu)
I personally have to commend the USPS for their effort to get presents delivered before Christmas. All of my packages, other than the little one that is on tour of the Eastern United States, have arrived, or is at least out for delivery. I even have one that wasn't even scheduled to arrive before the first of the year, appears to be arriving before Christmas.
Deliveries 2020
(in reply to JaHu)
I can’t speak for the Post Office as their management issues are the stuff nightmares (particularly for delivery people) are made of, but I can say that for the industry in general, this year presented quite the unique set of challenges. As I sit on Christmas Eve eve, I can say that due to a lot of effort, a lot of luck and an economic downturn that appears to be more than Wall Street thinks it is, we have, as an industrial sector, made it through this peak admirably. There will be outlier anecdotes about double labeled packages going back and forth across America, there always are, but overall, I’m pretty proud to be a part of this industry and think we performed beyond what we would have reasonably expected.
Now we need to get the next two days done and get ready for 2021.
"we have, as an industrial
(in reply to fischbobber)
"we have, as an industrial sector, made it through this peak admirably. There will be outlier anecdotes about double labeled packages going back and forth across America, there always are, but overall, I’m pretty proud to be a part of this industry and think we performed beyond what we would have reasonably expected."
I agree. Thanks to you and the many others helping the rest of us survive.
44 deaths in East TN nursing homes since Dec. 11
Tenn. Dept. of Health reporting 44 deaths in East TN nursing homes since Dec. 11
Top 20 cities where COVID-19 is growing at fast rates
Tenn. identified as worst location in the nation for COVID-19 infections
Sheesh. So proud. Not.
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Sheesh. So proud. Not.
Knoxville is Number One in
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Knoxville is Number One in the nation with a positive rate of 35%. Number two is a city in California with a positive rate of 20%.
I do believe that is for the
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I do believe that is for the metro area.
Yes, it does look like metro area of over 869,000 citizens.
Nashville metro area is 3rd in the cities with over 1,000 000 citizens.
I believe Knoxville is
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I believe Knoxville is distorting data being reported to the public. Until about three weeks ago, Knox County Health Dept reported data on hospital rooms, ventilators, ICU beds, and other information was reported as Knox County data only. When room availability started dropping, Knox County reported the data in the Metro Area. They defined the Metro Area as all 16 counties in East Tennessee. Which includes Chattanooga, Bristol, and west to Crossville.
Trump has now pardoned four
Trump has now pardoned four Blackwater security guards jailed for the mas killing of 14 Iraqi civilians which included 2 children in Bagdad in 2007.
Why would he do this? Is he trying to build his own personal army? Or is he at least planning to use them as hit men to threaten lawmakers to go along with his crazy scheme for a coup attempt of the US government? Did he pardon them knowing these guys will now be grateful and loyal? One was in jail for life, the others had 30 year prison sentences. What do they have to lose? And Trump knows committing atrocities are not beneath them. The US Military must keep a watchful eye on these four after their release.
Shoe repair stores used to be a good way to make a living ...
Shoe repair stores used to be a good way to make a living. Then, the pandemic sent corporate workers home
Knoxville mother pleads with people to wear mask
‘It’s so simple,’ Knoxville mother pleads the community wear masks after son dies from COVID-19
After phase two
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The Emory Ingles was my go to for a while. It was right before closing, the store was empty save for a few people and masking was observed. The young men at the front were great about making sure they were properly masked, the female manager and assistant manager at least paid cursory attention to their mask usage, but they clearly weren't into it.
I quit using that Ingles after the unmasked began showing up. My last night involved a woman who wore a mask into the store, took off her mask, and planted her derriere in the wine beer section for twenty minutes, browsing. While giving her her space, I had to move twice to keep 20 ft of distance between two other unmasked shoppers and had another unmasked shopper darn near run me over as I headed to checkout. When I said something to the manager she said they weren't going to do anything about it, so I haven't been back. It wouldn't surprise me if their neglect and lack of enforcement of public sanitation and health laws, including the mask mandate lead directly to this young man's death.
This is why limiting a stores liability and denying citizens the right to just compensation for their loss is a bad idea. Ingles shouldn't have the power to select to arbitrarily kill random employees, just to take care of their minority of criminal customers. Do not let the legislature take away our constitutional right to sue and receive just compensation for our losses.
Billiards and Brews
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This place has been cited seven times for violating the 10:00 curfew. But there's no need for the Sheriff to participate in enforcement. The customers will take care of it.
Dawn Wells, Mary Ann on 'Gilligan's Island,' dies of Covid-19
Dawn Wells, Mary Ann on 'Gilligan's Island,' dies of Covid-19 complications at 82
Dialysis clinics to administer Covid-19 antibody drugs
Dialysis clinics to administer Covid-19 antibody drugs
Newest amenity at hotels? Covid-19 test at check-in ...
Newest amenity at hotels? Covid-19 test at check-in or before your flight
This bar is in the City of
This bar is in the City of Knoxville and enforcement should be the responsibility Knoxville's mayor and City Council.
Agred.
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And noted.
Perhaps the sheriff could consider enforcing the law in the county. It is the job he was elected to do.
Fun Fact
The US Federal budget for the whole fiscal year of 2020 was set at roughly $4.8 trillion. Which is almost the same as the 5.9 trillion miles light travels in a year. Thats a little over $1 for each mile light travels. Which has nothing to do with anything other than geez that's a lot of money.
I guess you could say the US spends dollars at the speed of light
Covid variant found in
Covid variant found in Florida; more cases identified in California
WHO approves Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine for developing nations
WHO approves Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in breakthrough for developing nations
Rep-elect on Trump's
Rep-elect on Trump's Electoral College challenge: 'There's no question in my mind that I think he(Trump) won'
There's a huge difference between thinking and knowing! And these politicians who only think Trump won without actually knowing he won, is destroying our democracy.
Funniest thing I've seen
Funniest thing I've seen today.
I was reading an article on CNN about Josh Hawley, the Missouri Senator who jumped on board the Trump election coup train, and his picture was having trouble loading onto the page. The spinning loading icon was positioned right over his nose and it was brown which I thought was very appropriate.
I even question if CNN was doing it on purpose.
Who is this Upchurch guy?
Why are they letting him host a superspreader event at Cotton Eyed Joes?
I think the F*ck Biden mask
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I think the F*ck Biden mask one of the guys with CEJ's posted on IG, explains a lot.
Virginia state senator dies at age 60 after contracting Covid-19
Virginia state senator dies at age 60 after contracting Covid-19
One American dies from Covid-19 every 33 seconds
One American dies from Covid-19 every 33 seconds as the vaccine rollout hits snags
Concern of Trump's Final Days
The concern now is what Trump will do in his final days in the whitehouse? I've heard he still has control of our nuclear arsonal.
I'm curious if there's a way for our lawmakers to completely cut the electrical power to the whitehouse. And I mean all power! And somehow transfer the nuclear codes to Pence? Although, I don't want Trump having access, someone needs to have control or it could leave our nation vulnerable in these waning moments before the inauguration.
It's a bit of a scary
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It's a bit of a scary situation indeed.
Considering the information
Considering the information he has been given as president over course of presidency, that is a concern. Also those people he brought in as Cabinet and other staff and advisors. They have information that it carries with it a responsibility from now on.
This is the sole reason
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This is the sole reason anyone involved with the whitehouse has to go through a strict security clearance. Who knows what top secret information that has been tossed around?
Congressman Chuck Fleischmann tests positive for COVID-19
Congressman Chuck Fleischmann tests positive for COVID-19
Yelp will tell you if local businesses are enforcing masks
Yelp will tell you if local businesses are enforcing masks and social distancing
1 person dies every 6 minutes in L.A. of Covid
1 person dies every 6 minutes: How L.A. became the nation's largest coronavirus hot spot
Coalfield mourns 2nd football coach after losing Covid-19 battle
Coalfield community mourns 2nd football coach after losing battle to COVID-19
All the selfish people that
All the selfish people that refuse to wear masks, including the ignorant and disgraceful members of Congress, deserve to be isolated and locked up until the end of this terrible pandemic. Exposing others by their selfish action is certainly the un-Christian and mindless thing to do. It is a contradiction of what Jesus taught for many of these people who claim to be Christians. What a twisted group of people that only think of themselves and have such disregard for life.
Monoclonal antibodies could ease record Covid hospitalizations.
Monoclonal antibodies could ease record Covid hospitalizations. Why are they going unused?
I suspect
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Based on what I'm seeing at these meetings, the regulations, the Board's problem solving acumen, the daily numbers and big picture numbers (clue one in this mystery. Glenn Jacobs drives this county's covid numbers.) I'd say part of the reason for stabilization of our local measuring covid statistics is that is that the Board of Health has been issuing solid policy for six months, and we've been getting better as a community, in at least the spirit if not the letter of the law, at following and making this a high profile issue in our efforts for positive economic expansions for Knox County businesses.
As a result, I am going to advance a theory that we're seeing a lot of difficult little things done well, and that is playing into our present stable statistics. My immediate thought upon reading this was, "Hmm. I bet we're using them here."
Board of Health regulations are, by law, minimum standards. County Commission has the option of addressing covid regulations at the legislative level, strengthen them to where they make an immediate effect, and institute means of enforcement. Which needs to happen. But, they won't do that.
UT Athletics just fired Head
UT Athletics just fired Head football coach Jeremy Pruitt.
I wonder if he'll send in a lot of rioting thugs to try and overturn that decision?
Update: Fulmer has resigned. I thoroughly hate this.
Wyoming Chair is talking
Wyoming Chair is talking secession If Trump is impeached. If Wyoming wants out, I say, fine! Let em out! Put border agents all the away around their state and don't allow them to fly over US air space. I say why wait? Go ahead and do it. I'm tired of all this bull.
Exactly! I'm pretty sure
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Exactly! I'm pretty sure they'll think twice.
I'm not sure these right
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I'm not sure these right wingnuts are capable of rational thinking. Or thinking for themselves.
I read that they said they
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I read that they said they were pretty self sufficient. Cool. Cut off internet, phones, cable tv, medications, air space, interstate commerce (including McDonalds and Wendy's) FDIC protected banking, all federal funding, national guard, etc. etc. Looking forward to seeing their massive army, navy and air force.
Can you believe it, that
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Can you believe it, that these are some of the state's leaders of their state saying this? This country is dealing with two dangerous viruses. Fingers crossed, hopefully Biden will be able to eradicate both.
Smokers and pregnant women
Smokers and pregnant women have been moved to the top of the order in Pennsylvania to be vaccinated. So if you are male in PA, I don't think you will be getting pregnant anytime soon so maybe you should consider taking up smoking.
Customer accused of attacking Washington grocery store employee
Customer accused of attacking Washington grocery store employee after mask dispute
Today is the 21st day of the
Today is the 21st day of the 21st year of the 21st century.
How long it could take to vaccinate all the adults in the US
This is how long it could take to vaccinate all the adults in the US against Covid-19
New COVID-19 strain found in Tennessee
New COVID-19 strain found in Tennessee, health leaders believe it will become the dominant strain by March
Even more reason for a mask
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Even more reason for a mask mandate. But, noooo...
Believe it is time to get serious about masks for everyone. Noticed at the inauguration and White House press briefings people are wearing two masks, N95 or KN95 and cloth. I haven't found anywhere to purchase an N95 mask.
KN95s
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This link includes a list of KN95 masks that have received emergency use authorization from the FDA. Many of these KNs are plentiful on Amazon.
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Thanks. It is really hard to
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Thanks. It is really hard to match up a mask from the list to one available for purchase. I was able to buy some KN95 masks from Lowes. However, the mfg is not on the list. I'd really like some N95 masks but they are hard to find.
Thanks! Just ordered some.
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Thanks! Just ordered some.
N95 masks
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The face mask that could end the pandemic
The real reason they were
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The real reason they were wearing masks, they were hiding their lizard tongues. And for all you people out there who believe in this nonsense, I WAS KIDDING!!!
Thanks Bizgrrl for the tip on the masks. I noticed my dentist and her assistants wearing them but thought you had to be in the medical industry to get them.
See expert's plan to end pandemic in four weeks
The combination of mask, etc. and flu vaccine has dropped flu infection ~95% from just vaccine only. It seems there can be a similar impact on Covid. Now that Federal government requires masks on federal property/buildings, states, counties and cities should follow suit.
See expert's plan to end pandemic in four weeks
What do coronavirus variants mean for your masks?
What do coronavirus variants mean for your masks?
All but 5 GOP Senate members
All but 5 GOP Senate members vote to dismiss the Trump impeachment hearings. If it is dismissed, it only opens the door for more corruption in the executive branch and they are solely responsible for it. You can't blame future corruption on trump, fox news, the proud boys, or anyone else seeking to dismantle our democracy. They alone, have the power to end it. And it seems they are refusing to take the step forward to do it. Either out of fear of Trump and his followers or their own corruption.
Covid-19 home test vending machine unveiled in New York City
Covid-19 home test vending machine unveiled in New York City
Is Bill Lee as stupid as he
Is Bill Lee as stupid as he appears? He's actually lifting all restrictions on all sporting events from k-12 because covid numbers have dropped. Or is he just not happy because more people aren't catching the virus and dying?
Rhetorical question?
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Rhetorical question?
Yes, unless there's an actual
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Yes, unless there's an actual reasonable answer.
Businesses, air filtering, ventilation and Covid-19
Do businesses get financial help for implementing air flow and filtration to help mitigate Covid-19?
Seems like every business should have that sort of thing. Particularly those that have large numbers of people packed in.
Air Cleaners, HVAC Filters, and Coronavirus (COVID-19)
Ventilation and Coronavirus (COVID-19)
Implementing a Layered Approach to Address COVID-19 in Public Indoor Spaces
EPA Approves Emergency
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EPA Approves Emergency Exemption for Antiviral Air Treatment
EPA is approving these emergency exemption requests from Georgia and Tennesse
Judging by the states requesting approval and the description of the technology, I'm only somewhat optimistic. But you never know.
Map: Track the spread of the Covid-19 variants across the USA
Map: Track the spread of the Covid-19 variants across the United States
Congressman, vaccinated for Covid-19, tests positive for virus
Massachusetts Democratic congressman, vaccinated for Covid-19, tests positive for virus
"The US Centers for Disease
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"The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says building immunity to Covid-19 "typically takes a few weeks" after vaccination."
Can you spread the coronavirus after you are vaccinated? How long after? I was under the impression you can transmit the coronavirus even weeks (or a long time) after being vaccinated. I don't know if it is true.
From what I have read thus
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From what I have read thus far that seems to still be unknown for certain. However ....
Can I still get COVID-19 after getting vaccinated?
This has been one of my major
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This has been one of my major concerns about the vaccine. After a person gets vaccinated that they no longer feel the need to wear a mask. I wonder if at the vaccination sites they verbally, and in written form, tell the recipients that they must still wear a mask?
I've had my Covid-19 vaccine -- now what can I safely do?
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I've had my Covid-19 vaccine -- now what can I safely do? Your questions answered
FAA's Zero Tolerance for Disruptive Passengers
FAA Administrator Steve Dickson has ordered the agency to take strong action against any passenger who disrupts or threatens the safety of a flight.
Adults age 70-plus can register for COVID-19 vaccination Tuesday
Adults age 70-plus can register for COVID-19 vaccination Tuesday as state’s vaccine supply increases
South Carolina is already
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South Carolina is already opening it up to people 65 and older.
States take back hundreds of thousands of vaccine doses
States take back hundreds of thousands of vaccine doses held in federal long-term care program
I couldn't tell from the
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I couldn't tell from the article whether all those in long-term care facilities actually got their vaccines. Seems there was a bit of confusion. Also, too bad there can't be a requirement for anyone working at a long-term care facility to have a coronavirus vaccine.
Florida grocery store captures country’s divide over masks
Florida grocery store captures country’s divide over wearing masks
Biden administration weighs plan to directly send masks
That seems a waste of time and money to me. It is so easy to get a mask now, I don't see the point. Unless you are sending everyone can N95 mask. Or an equivalent.
Biden administration weighs plan to directly send masks to all Americans
Morristown asks people not to litter as roadside trash piles up
Morristown asks people not to litter as roadside trash piles up, inmate crews unable to gather it
Ooh, good idea!
Let's ask people not to litter anywhere!
South Africa halts AstraZeneca vaccine
South Africa halts AstraZeneca vaccine after study questions effectiveness against variant
GOP Rep. Ron Wright dies following Covid diagnosis
GOP Rep. Ron Wright dies following Covid diagnosis
Knoxville bars cited by Tennessee Alcoholic Beverage Commission
Two Knoxville bars cited by Tennessee Alcoholic Beverage Commission
How billions in pandemic aid was swindled by con artists
How billions in pandemic aid was swindled by con artists and crime syndicates
Republicans are saying it's
Republicans are saying it's unconstitutional to impeach a former president. North Carolina Republican Senator Burr was just censured by his party in his State for voting for impeachment. From what I've read of the constitution they may be right but only in a normal situation. My question is? The House voted to impeach Trump before Biden took office, right? Wouldn't that constitute that it was still an ongoing impeachment process therefore it was still an open case? Both, the House and Senate are both bodies of Congress so wouldn't it mean it was still an open case? They were not impeaching Trump for what he did after he left office. It was for the things he did while he was in office. Like for instance. If a trial starts before the statute of limitations expires in a case, isn't it still considered an open case even if the SOL is reached during the trial? Can anyone here clarify this for me? Wouldn't that still mean trump could've been impeached?
Also this would mean Senator Burr was wrongfully censured.
High school sweethearts die of Covid-19 hours apart
High school sweethearts die of Covid-19 hours apart after one last family video call
Covid and creativity
Old Ski Gondolas Find New Life as Private Dining Rooms
DeSantis defends controversial vaccine deal with developer
DeSantis defends controversial vaccine deal with developer -- and threatens to pull vaccines if officials don't like it
Florida commissioner apologizes for making vaccine ‘VIP’ list
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I think she means "I am sorry I got caught"
Florida commissioner apologizes for making vaccine ‘VIP’ list, adding her name to it
Covid-19 cuts U.S. life expectancy by a year
Covid-19 cuts U.S. life expectancy by a year in first half of 2020, biggest drop since WWII
Two women dressed as 'grannies' tried to get Covid-19 vaccine
Two women dressed as 'grannies' tried to get Covid-19 vaccine
Pulse oximeter and skin pigmentation
This device is crucial in the fight against Covid. It may not work on dark skin
CDC: Interim Clinical Guidance for Management of Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
Thousands of dollars for
Thousands of dollars for electric bills in Texas. They obviously didn't learn the lesson of the downside of privatizing electric companies from California's Enron.
Randy, you should consider
Randy, you should consider adding a button on this thread that takes you to the top. And one that takes you to the bottom of this thread. :)
Pharmacists say 'pooling' Covid vaccines could save doses
Pharmacists say 'pooling' Covid vaccines could save thousands of doses
Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide
Chili numbers are interesting
Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide
Going maskless is a key factor in Covid-19 outbreaks at gyms
Going maskless is a key factor in Covid-19 outbreaks at gyms, studies say
Third Pfizer dose? The Covid-19 vaccine maker studying booster
A third Pfizer dose? The Covid-19 vaccine maker is studying booster shots.
Moderna test booster shot targets South African cover variant
Moderna to test booster shot that targets South African coronavirus variant
Open a window to reduce virus spread, CDC tells schools
Open a window to reduce virus spread, CDC tells schools
How to use CDC building recommendations in your setting
Alabama governor extends mask order ...
Alabama governor extends mask order but says mandate will end in April
Children's hospitals see surge in rare Covid-19 complication
Some children's hospitals see a surge in rare Covid-19 complication MIS-C
CDC updates its Covid-19 guidance for childcare programs
CDC updates its Covid-19 guidance for childcare programs
CDC: Ventilation in Schools and Childcare Programs
Uber driver berated and coughed on by maskless passenger
Uber driver berated and coughed on by maskless passenger
The passenger refused to wear mask
Passenger's boozing, mask refusal, bad behavior on flight could cost him $14,500
Mayo Clinic Tennessee coronavirus map
Tennessee coronavirus map: What do the trends mean for you?
Ireland halts use of AstraZeneca vaccine
Ireland halts use of AstraZeneca vaccine following blood clot reports in Norway
Vaccine holdouts could be last obstacle to defeating pandemic
How Biden, Republicans and public health leaders are trying to persuade GOP skeptics to get their Covid vaccinations
Duke students on Covid-19 lockdown
Duke students on Covid-19 lockdown for a week due to 'rapidly escalating' outbreak
Covid antibodies in ~1 in 5 blood donations of unvaccinated
Covid-19 antibodies present in about 1 in 5 blood donations from unvaccinated people, according to data from the American Red Cross
Variant is about to become dominant in the US
A concerning variant is about to become dominant in the US, experts say, and how Americans act could help fuel or curb a surge
CNN reporter asks entire restaurant about vaccine
CNN reporter asks entire restaurant about vaccine. See their response
Well, i'll be. Hope they
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Well, i'll be. Hope they don't travel.
I wonder what they think
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I wonder what they think about the polio vaccine
See Rand Paul spar with Dr. Fauci over masks
See Rand Paul spar with Dr. Fauci over masks
Restaurant manager stabbed by customer who refused to wear mask
Jack in the Box restaurant manager stabbed by customer who refused to wear a mask, police say
Mask related arrests videos
Bodycam video shows arrest of woman wanted for trespassing after mask policy dispute at Galveston
Tahlequah PD responds to mask dispute
Florida reaches 2 million infections
Florida Surpasses 2 Million Covid Cases
Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber
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Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber declared a state of emergency and set a curfew Saturday, saying the crowds that have descended on the city recently are "more than we can handle."
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The 8 p.m. curfew and road closures in the city's entertainment district will be in effect for the next 72 hours, Gelber said at a news conference Saturday.
The causeways to Miami Beach from the mainland will be closed to non-local traffic starting at 9 p.m. for the next few nights, Gelber said.
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On Friday night, someone shot a weapon into the air, and there was a riot, he said.
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Since February 3, officers have made more than 900 arrests in the city, "more than 300 of which were for felony offenses," the summary said. "At least 50% off those arrested reside outside of Florida."
Hundreds of people defy Miami Beach curfew orders
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Hundreds of people defy Miami Beach curfew orders
Brazil sees record-breaking coronavirus deaths
Brazil sees record-breaking coronavirus deaths
Miami Heat redefines VIP: vaccinated important people
Miami Heat redefines VIP in Covid era: vaccinated important people
Brazil Covid spirals out of control
Signs of collapse across Brazil as Covid spirals out of control. Bolsonaro seems to have little response
Some US states report concerning Covid-19 case increases
Some US states report concerning Covid-19 case increases -- and one warns the surge is already here
Pfizer says Covid-19 vaccine protection lasts at least six month
Pfizer says Covid-19 vaccine protection lasts at least six months, protects against variants
Nursing homes see 96% decline in new cases
More than 11,000 cases of a troubling variant reported in the US. These states have the highest numbers
Get fully vaccinated before resuming normal activities
Get fully vaccinated before resuming normal activities, health experts plead with Americans
Man arrested at Disney in Florida refusing temperature check
'I spent $15,000': Man arrested at Disney resort in Florida after refusing temperature check
Attacks on Asians
What is wrong with people ...
Video shows Asian man attacked on N.Y.C. subway train
Arrest Made In Attack On Asian Man On 1 Train
NYC woman seen thrown to ground and kicked in anti-Asian attack
For the time being.........
It's all over but the shouting. Expect an uptick in cases, followed by an uptick in hospitalizations and a death spike. We are at a hard to predict phase of this pandemic. Even at a worst case scenario, I don't think it will be as bad as Nov.-Jan. I would look for pocket outbreaks for quite some time. Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers tend to run in the same circles and they like meetings. I hate meetings.
This death spike is scheduled for the weekend after Mother's Day. The Valentine's Day spike included 4 45-64 year olds. It concerns me that accelerating the spread downwards through age groups will lead to unnecessary disability and death in our young and pediatric categories. I still think masking is appropriate, needed, and necessary. Be careful out there.
Wear a mask, get vaccinated and lay low while this surge runs its course.Hope it's a molehill.
The people most affected now are the younger individuals
Another US Covid-19 surge may look different, experts say, particularly for younger people. Here's how
CDC: Cleaning and Disinfecting Your Facility
CDC: Cleaning and Disinfecting Your Facility
Bar opening event in rural Illinois linked to 46 Covid-19 cases
Bar opening event in rural Illinois linked to 46 Covid-19 cases and a school closure, CDC report finds
Manufacturers embrace robots, the perfect pandemic worker
Manufacturers embrace robots, the perfect pandemic worker
Meet the Californians moving to Texas for political reasons
Meet the Californians moving to Texas for political reasons
Powell tells '60 Minutes' US economy is at 'inflection point"
Powell tells '60 Minutes' that US economy is at an 'inflection point'
States see rise in unused vaccines as demand flattens
States see rise in unused vaccines as demand flattens, shifting focus to hesitancy
Should we still wear masks outside?
Should we still wear masks outside?
CDC:COVID-19 Recommended Ventilation in Buildings
Ventilation in Buildings | CDC
Family allegedly sold bottles of bleach marketed as Covid cure
Some more "What is wrong with people" ...
Florida family allegedly sold thousands of bottles of bleach marketed as Covid cure
Moderna working to have booster available by fall
Moderna working to have booster available by fall
Colleges and vaccines
Colleges and vaccine
Airline bans Alaska state senator for violating mask rules
Airline bans Alaska state senator for violating mask rules
Reinbold, a coronavirus
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Alaska Airlines bans state lawmaker for her 'continued refusal to comply' with mask mandate
West Virginia offers savings bonds to people who get vaccinated
West Virginia offers $100 savings bonds to people 16 to 35 who get vaccinated
Pretty cool.
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Pretty cool.
Six-foot social distancing rule misses bigger risks, MIT experts
Six-foot social distancing rule misses bigger risks, MIT experts say
~80% people in the US live within 5 miles of all three vaccines
Nearly 80% of people in the US live within 5 miles of all three Covid-19 vaccines
2nd city mayor in Monroe County dies in last 5 months of Covid
Second city mayor in Monroe County dies in last 5 months from COVID-19
That's headline news. Very
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That's headline news. Very sad.
Risk of dying from Covid-19 40 times the risk of rare blood clot
Risk of dying from Covid-19 40 times the risk of rare blood clot after receiving J&J vaccine
Hospital chain has been suing thousands of patients
'There's no way I can pay for this:' One of America's largest hospital chains has been suing thousands of patients during the pandemic
States have been offering big prizes for those vaccinated
States have been offering big prizes for those who are vaccinated. Companies are now doing the same
Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine doses may be close to expiring
Many Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine doses may be close to expiring
New coronavirus variant is on the rise
A new coronavirus variant is on the rise. Here's why experts are concerned
U.S. exceeds 600,000 COVID-19 fatalities
As death rate slows, U.S. exceeds 600,000 COVID-19 fatalities
We’ll Probably Need Booster Shots for Covid-19. Which ones?
We’ll Probably Need Booster Shots for Covid-19. But When? And Which Ones?
Over 300 cases of heart issue after Covid vaccination reported
Over 300 cases of heart issue after Covid vaccination reported in young people, CDC says
Drivers in the pandemic have gotten more reckless
It's not just your imagination. Drivers in the pandemic have gotten more reckless
Changes in commuting to work ...
Welcome to your new commute: Higher prices, safety fears and reduced transit schedules
American workers don't want to go back to normal
American workers don't want to go back to normal, and that makes sense
Yes. The workers need better
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Yes. The workers need better pay and working conditions. Some of our pandemic heroes barely make enough to survive and treated very poorly. Healthcare?!?! Benefits?!?!
Nearly every new Covid-19 death is now entirely preventable, CDC
Nearly every new Covid-19 death is now entirely preventable, CDC director says
Covid fueled the rise of the e-bike
Covid fueled the rise of the e-bike. See where ridership grew in the U.S.
High and low vaccination rates and the Delta variant spreads
Fauci warns there may soon be 'two Americas' as divide widens between places with high and low vaccination rates and the Delta variant spreads
Johnson & Johnson's Vaccine Is Effective Against The Delta Varia
Johnson & Johnson's COVID Vaccine Is Effective Against The Delta Variant, Studies Find
Covid cases almost 3 times higher states with low vaccine rates
Rates of new Covid-19 cases are almost 3 times higher in states with low vaccination rates, new data shows
Israel sees drop in Pfizer vaccine protection against infections
Israel sees drop in Pfizer vaccine protection against infections
Questions about Covid-19 and vaccines
Questions about Covid-19 and vaccines
The bounce.
Our Covid numbers right now are very similar to where they were this time last year, with a notable exception. Last year we bottomed out in early May and it took us two months to reach a point where we clearly couldn’t sustain the growth rate of infections from Covid we were seeing, This year it took us one month. Last year we had one of the top field commanders in America for managing a medical crisis like this on our Board of Health managing our response, along with a team of top medical experts. This year, the Board of Health has been disbanded and early numbers suggest exceeding our hospital capacity by Christmas is a distinct possibility. Last year our response was managed by health professionals, who, despite having their work sabotaged at every turn by local politicians, managed a response that was nothing short of miraculous. This year, the same people responsible for the attempted destruction of our response plan, are in charge of that plan.
Interestingly, last year the deaths were random, and could accurately be described as an assault on all citizens. This year, thanks to the vaccine, only those that choose to be infected will die. It’s like comparing Oklahoma City to Jonestown. Now that the anti-masker, anti-vaxxer, big lie advocates are focused on a mass suicide, do progressives have an obligation to stand up and try to save them? Or do we just take comfort knowing that they are destroying their margin of votes for the nest election?
I think it’s unrealistic, looking at the numbers, to think we won’t have as many deaths as last year. We will see what type of spreader event the 4th turns out to be. I am concerned that our Health Director’s power is tied to a governors decision to declare a state of emergency. For our towns economy to survive, we will have to institute and enforce a vaccinated only policy. I see more demonstrations and based on the threats I received last year, a real possibility that the Jacobs/Biggs/Ward/ Trump cult will turn violent. I don’t foresee a full stadium or open schools by November.
I am concerned about pediatric deaths and cases. Of the 143 active cases, about 15 were pediatric Covid. That’s roughly 10 % of active cases. That’s double the number ( percentage wise) of what we’ve seen thus far. Jacobs may get his pediatric casualty after all. And that’s an avoidable damn shame. Get the vaccine.
Well said. Thanks.
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Well said. Thanks.
Pfizer sees waning immunity from its Covid-19 vaccine
Pfizer sees waning immunity from its Covid-19 vaccine, says developing new booster
Pfizer to ask FDA to authorize booster dose of COVID vaccine as Delta variant spreads
Experts: Getting a Covid-19 vaccine protects everyone around you
It's not just about you. Experts say getting a Covid-19 vaccine protects everyone around you
'We are seeing people passing quicker than before'
'We are seeing people passing quicker than before': What hospitals look like in US Covid hot spots
Today’s Numbers
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Here are today’s Covid numbers. They are up 38.46% from last weeks. We are now doubling case numbers every two weeks. This puts us on track for over 1600 active cases by opening weekend for football, and over 10,000 active cases by the end of September. Obviously, these numbers are unsustainable. They project out to over 500 deaths through the end of the year. In addition, the delta variant targets our youth, who are being denied access to the vaccine by the state. There are no mandated mitigation strategies that I am aware of.
This time last year the Board of Health was developing and instituting aggressive response strategies to this virus that allowed our hospitals to keep operating and kept our healthcare infrastructure functioning. This year, the people in charge of Covid response haven’t even acknowledged that the oncoming crisis even exists. Unless something changes radically, our hospitals will shut down sometime during the Thanksgiving/Christmas season and there won’t be enough healthy people to operate our local economy. There is no evidence that a government response ( beyond the wholesale infection of our county with covid) is forthcoming. Furthermore, it doesn’t appear that exposure to last year’s variant is necessarily going to offer an immune response to the delta variant. We are in uncharted water as virtually everything we learned last year has been pitched out the window and political solutions have replaced those protocols dictated by science, known viral behavior, and sound public health policy.
Thus far, no public health strategy nor school system strategy is in place to deal with this surge and our County Commission doesn’t even seem to be aware that it exists, despite the fact that when they dissolved the Board of Health and the sham advisory they created to over up what amounts to their criminal or at least hit boy unethical and immoral actions they claimed they had the power to manage this pandemic rather than the legally legislated , appointed and approved Board of Health. So what’s the plan? We saw this last fall . County government was directly responsible for contributing to the deaths of 650 people. This year, thanks to the vaccine, our local government response will be responsible for every single death that occurs in this county. The County government policy of accelerating the spread of the delta variant will be directly responsible for any and all deaths. Quite frankly, there isn’t enough time to stop this from happening. The town will shut down at the end of September. I see bad times for Knoxville.
Get the vaccine. You have about six weeks before the bovine excrement hits the oscillator. Don’t waste that time. Vaccine lines will probably be spreader events in short order. You can save yourself, there is still time. Get the vaccine, watch the numbers and case counts and prepare to hunker down once more.
What he said. WTF is wrong
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What he said. WTF is wrong with people around here?
Oh wait. I know.
They listen to Gov. Lee, Mayor Jacobs, and Fox News instead of qualified scientists and public health experts.
I was hoping this shit would be over by Thanksgiving. I guess I was thinking everybody would get a vaccine.
Guess not.
Good luck, and may the odds be ever in you favor. Because, once again, no help is coming.
Covid-19 vaccine myths
Covid-19 vaccine myths: These reasons for not getting a shot don't hold up. In fact, they'll set the US back
Delta variant makes up 83% of new US coronavirus cases
More infectious Delta variant makes up 83% of new US coronavirus cases as vaccine hesitancy persists
White House official and a Pelosi aide, test positive for Covid
A White House official and a senior Pelosi aide, both fully vaccinated, test positive for Covid-19
Doctor: Patients 'beg me for the vaccine' before being intubated
Doctor: Patients 'beg me for the vaccine' before being intubated
Alabama Governor 'start blaming the unvaccinated folks'
Alabama Republican Gov. Ivey says 'start blaming the unvaccinated folks' for rise in Covid cases
Good for her. She's stepping
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Good for her. She's stepping up a little more than some other GOP governors. At one point she enacted a mask mandate.
Using facial recognition software to vet unemployment claims
Half of US states are now using facial recognition software from this little-known company to vet unemployment claims
'People are just walking out in the middle of shifts'
'People are just walking out in the middle of shifts': What it's like to work in a restaurant right now
Tennessee vaccination rates stall as delta spreads
Not swayed by experts — or Dolly: Tennessee vaccination rates stall as delta spreads
Vaccine mandates would be the
The pandemic is 'spiraling out of control' due to unvaccinated people, Trump administration official says
U.S. will not lift travel restrictions, citing Delta variant
EXCLUSIVE U.S. will not lift travel restrictions, citing Delta variant -official
Veterans Affairs requiring vaccine at medical facilities
Veterans Affairs becomes first federal agency to require some staff be vaccinated against Covid
Staff at a Florida hospital say they are hearing panic, fear ...
Staff at a Florida hospital say they are hearing panic, fear and regret from unvaccinated Covid-19 patients
CDC: Nearly all East Tennessee counties return to mask inside
CDC recommends nearly all East Tennessee counties return to wearing masks inside, including vaccinated people
Fauci: You get vaccinated because you want to save your life
Fauci: You get vaccinated because you want to save your life
Knox County: 5 COVID-19 deaths, cases rise 264% in 2 weeks
Knox County reports 5 new COVID-19 deaths, active cases rise 264% in 2 weeks NEWS
Pfizer: Third dose of Covid-19 vaccine
Pfizer data suggest third dose of Covid-19 vaccine 'strongly' boosts protection against Delta variant
Getting vaccinated against Covid-19 in secret
Some people in Missouri are getting vaccinated against Covid-19 in secret, doctor says. They fear backlash from loved ones who oppose the vaccines
Corporate America to workers: Get vaccinated or get out
Corporate America to workers: Get vaccinated or get out
Advisory Board of Health meeting
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Glenn Jacobs, currently in charge of all active covid mitigation in Knox County, did not say a word about his position, nor did he share his plan for managing the shutdown he has instituted. Dr. Buchanan explained his plan noting that the virus would shut the town down, not mask mandates. Our County Mayor is a gutless individual reusing to take responsibility for his own actions.
CDC: Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox
CDC document warns Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox and cause more severe infection
Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others
Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others
Australia: soldiers patrolling Sydney to enforce stay-at-home
Lockdown in Brisbane extended as army patrols Sydney to enforce COVID curbs
Delta spreads 'like wildfire'
Delta spreads 'like wildfire' as doctors study whether it makes patients sicker
Lindsey Graham tests positive for Covid-19
Lindsey Graham tests positive for Covid-19 and has had 'flu-like symptoms' despite being vaccinated
NYC will require vaccines for entry to restaurants and gyms
New York City will require vaccines for entry to restaurants and gyms
Microsoft to require vaccines for workers at its US offices
Microsoft to require vaccines for workers at its US offices
Awesome. Do they get the Bill
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Awesome.
Do they get the Bill Gates chip as a bonus?
Here are the companies
Here are the companies mandating vaccines for all or some employees
Covid pandemic linked to increased nearsightedness in kids
Covid pandemic linked to increased nearsightedness in kids
Moderna says its COVID-19 shot 93% effective six months
Moderna says its COVID-19 shot 93% effective six months after second dose
864,000 vaccinations in last 24 hours
White House touts more than 864,000 vaccinations in last 24 hours, highest rate since early July
Florida reports record high number of new Covid-19 cases
Florida reports record high number of new Covid-19 cases this week
GOP official who mocked masks and vaccine dies from virus
GOP official who mocked masks and vaccine dies from virus
Full Fauci Interview - August 8 Meet the Press
Full Fauci Interview: 'A Virus Will Not Mutate Unless You Allow It To Replicate'
Kids sick with Covid are filling up children's hospitals
Kids sick with Covid are filling up children's hospitals in areas seeing spikes
Pentagon expected to mandate Covid-19 vaccine by mid-September
Pentagon expected to mandate Covid-19 vaccine by mid-September
Dallas and Austin school districts will require masks
Dallas and Austin school districts defy governor's order, will require masks
3 major US airlines will not mandate shots
3 major US airlines will not mandate shots for their unvaccinated workers
However, United Airlines'
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However, United Airlines' mandate that workers get vaccinated by October 25 or face getting fired.
Bonnaroo require proof of vaccination or negative COVID-19 test
Bonnaroo to require proof of vaccination or negative COVID-19 test for entry
Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine protects against Delta variant
Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine protects against Delta variant, study finds
Florida and Tennessee warn ambulance and EMS overworked
'Use 911 sparingly.' Local officials in Florida and Tennessee warn ambulance and emergency services are overworked due to Covid-19 surge
Drive-in theaters fueled Hollywood's box office last year
Drive-in theaters fueled Hollywood's box office last year. They could be here to stay
Tattnall Co. high school student dies due to COVID-19
Tattnall Co. high school student dies due to COVID-19
Why eight months? What's behind the timing of the Covid booster
Why eight months? What's behind the timing of the Covid booster shot
New Zealand announces it's locking down the entire country
New Zealand announces it's locking down the entire country ... over one Covid case
Where we stand.
I'm watching our hospitalization numbers and checked the historical data. There seems to be several people noting where we were on the downside of the curve We now are about where we were at on Nov.23, 2020. (As of Tuesdays numbers). As I recall, this is when the Board of Health began to focus in earnest on keeping our hospitals open to avoid a collapse of our healthcare system.
Over at the Compass, local right wing pundits are insisting this is not a danger, and much like a little over a year ago when all we heard was that there have only been five deaths, and using data from the Alpha surge to support this claim, all the while knowing that the pediatric death rate is .015% and we are saturation infecting roughly 90,000 children. That works out to 13.5 pediatric deaths, depending on the actual success rate of this infection event. (Most of my calculations are based on infecting 30,000 of the 60,000 KCS students).
I am currently on suspension from social media, due to the abrupt manner in which I have covered this situation. I was banned from facebook for posting a "you first" comment on Glenn Jacobs page when the County government ignored the science of the situation and adopted a policy that data from Alpha suggests they were indeed willing to roll the dice with our school children's lives.
I'm suspended from Nextdoor for pointing out the the last wholesale experiments of this nature on a captive class of people forced into that experiment with absolute disregard for the lives of the participants was in Germany during the late 30's and early 40's.
The saturation event should be complete within days in our schools and the results of this policy will become evident i9n the coming days and weeks.
This surge is upon us.
Hospital Beds
At 105 adult beds, looks like we have a week or two before having staffed hospital space becomes dire. Active cases continue to rise.
Delta will hike insurance premiums and limit sick pay
Delta will hike insurance premiums and limit sick pay for unvaccinated employees
Most cases were reported from
"We have to work together to fight this" | Knoxville mayor urges people to wear masks, get vaccinated against COVID-19
Make the unvaccinated pay out for their deadly decisions
Make the unvaccinated pay out for their deadly decisions
From McDonald's to Goldman
From McDonald's to Goldman Sachs, here are the companies mandating vaccines for all or some employees
Three doses of Covid-19 vaccine are likely needed
Three doses of Covid-19 vaccine are likely needed
Researchers find 55 long-term COVID effects
Researchers find 55 long-term COVID effects. These are the most common
Microsoft indefinitely abandons plan to reopen US offices
Microsoft indefinitely abandons plan to reopen US offices amid Covid worries
Why do Covid rapid tests cost so much
Why do Covid rapid tests cost so much even after Biden's push for lower prices?
Completely different
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Completely different tests?
If you are vaccinated, how many tests do you need ? I guess if you are around a lot of the unvaccinated you need more tests, even if you are vaccinated?
George Washington and the First Mass Military Inoculation
George Washington and the First Mass Military Inoculation
CDC: How you spread the virus when you are not sick
CDC: How you spread the virus when you are not sick
1 in every 500 US residents have died of Covid-19
1 in every 500 US residents have died of Covid-19
Moderna's most effective, but Pfizer and J&J protect well
Moderna's vaccine is the most effective, but Pfizer and J&J also protect well, CDC-led study says
Texas couple asked to leave restaurant for wearing face masks
Texas couple asked to leave restaurant for wearing face masks to protect their immunocompromised infant
Restaurant owner explains why he kicked out customers
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Restaurant owner explains why he kicked out customers for wearing masks
Among adults who have
Delta variant fears, crammed hospitals drove recent uptick in vaccination rate, poll finds
Sweden pauses use of Moderna COVID vaccine for younger age group
Sweden pauses use of Moderna COVID vaccine for younger age groups
Covid vaccine doesn’t cause infertility, but the disease might
The Covid vaccine doesn’t cause infertility, but the disease might
My wife and I got our second
My wife and I got our second Moderna vaccine in late March. I urged my family and friends to get the vaccine. Three of my siblings did get the vaccine but my 67 year old brother refused to get vaccinated because of all the misinformation he read. I pleaded with him to get vaccinated. I told him that without the vaccine and because he was at work and out in many public places being exposed by non maskers he would likely get covid by the fall. On Oct. 5 he called me and said he was struggling to breath and was panicking. I rushed to his house and took him to the ER where we waited 14 hours before seeing a dr. He tested positive for covid. He is in bad shape on a ventilator fighting for his life. Please say a prayer for my brother Bill and please encourage anyone you know that is unvaccinated to get the vaccine today. I love my brother and I am so mad at him for being influenced by the anti Vax stupidity.
Definitely, our prayers are
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Definitely, our prayers are with you, your brother and all of your family.
Thank you for your prayers.
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Thank you for your prayers. Sitting here with my brother not wanting him to die alone. Kidneys totally failed. Organs are shutting down. Maybe has 2 or 3 more hours nurse says. I love my brother but I will never understand why he would not get a vaccine. We had so many plans for the future. Such a waste. Please get a vaccine if you have not.
Oh, no. There are no words to
(in reply to Mike Daugherty)
Oh, no. There are no words to fully express your sadness and our sympathies. Hold on to what you can.
Oh, man. This is so sad. I
(in reply to Mike Daugherty)
Oh, man. This is so sad. I can't imagine. You are a good brother.
Sorry for your loss.
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As someone who has taken this pandemic seriously and who has done my best to promote public health practices and hold our officials accountable, I take these deaths personally. I somehow feel that had I just been a better writer, and made my points in a different manner, maybe I could have persuaded more people to get vaccinated and saved their life. I have tears in my eyes as I type this and can only say I'm sorry we have let this happen to our city and your brother.Please accept my condolences on your loss and apologies from all of us in this community who are embarrassed and sickened by our government response.
Said very well. We had tears
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Said very well. We had tears here as well. Many conservatives in power are doing us a great disservice.
Thank you. Bill was a fighter
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Thank you Bob. Bill was a fighter that would not give up until the end. He was a smart man and most always tried to make his argument with solid facts.Obviously Bill made a huge mistake by not getting vaccinated and that decision cost him his life. I am upset with him, but I also blame Lee, and Jacobs, and the anti Vax and anti mask crowd for their mindless and selfish attitude that has influenced millions across the country. When I tried to convince Bill to get vaccinated he said he would use his hydrogen peroxide nebulizer if he did end up with covid. That treatment is found on all kinds of crazy sites. When my wife and I went to Bill's house tonight to look for his life insurance policy, we noticed the hydrogen peroxide he had ordered online and a nebulizer on his nightstand. Bill had never smoked one cigarette. The dr said his lungs looked like someone that had smoked for many years. Tonight I am asking why this had to happen. Sometimes life is not fair.
Many Covid patients have memory problems months later, new study
Many Covid patients have memory problems months later, new study finds
Bon Jovi tests positive for Covid, cancels show in Miami
Bon Jovi tests positive for Covid, cancels show in Miami
How Covid attacks the brain may explain long-lasting symptoms
How Covid attacks the brain may explain long-lasting symptoms
Pfizer's Covid antiviral pill may cut severe illness by 89%
Pfizer's Covid antiviral pill may cut severe illness by 89 percent
More than 10,000 patients caught Covid-19 in a hospital
More than 10,000 patients caught Covid-19 in a hospital, analysis shows
Iowa governor used $450,000 in Covid funds for salaries
Iowa governor improperly used $450,000 in Covid funds for salaries
I just wanted to post reply 666
But while I'm here: Covid has 666 written all over it.
Covid variant could show immune evasion, enhanced transmission
A new Covid-19 variant could show immune evasion and enhanced transmissibility, South African scientists warn
The US is lagging so far
The US is lagging so far behind other nations in public transportation it's not funny. But honestly I wouldn't feel safe riding in something like this in the uncivilized US.
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Nursing home residents more likely to die if staff unvaccinated
Nursing home residents more likely to die of Covid if staff is unvaccinated, study says
Jordan Klepper vs.
Jordan Klepper vs. Anti-Vaxxers in SoCal
Love the part where the man
Love the part where the man says, I'm sort of a New Yorker. There (in New York) getting vaccinated is more of a civic duty. In LA (California), not so much.
Rand Paul is a real piece of
Rand Paul is a real piece of work!
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Hah, Federal government
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Hah, Federal government spending is now important and not just socialist.
Rand's way of thinking is
(in reply to bizgrrl)
Rand's way of thinking is pretty much the standard for the Republican party. We don't need it until it affects me.
Kroger ending some COVID-19 benefits for unvaccinated employees
Kroger ending some COVID-19 benefits for unvaccinated employees
Wonderful! Kroger has odone a
(in reply to jbr)
Wonderful! Kroger has odone a good job throughout the pandemic.
Can anyone explain to me how
Can anyone explain to me how to understand and how to read the new KUB computerized meters and understand the daily readings on their app? When it was mechanical I could read both water and electric meters. My last bill was about 80% higher than the month before and don't feel I used that much more electricity. I haven't had that high of a bill in years and it wasn't even very cold throughout the month. Anyone else have a ridiculously high bill last month? When it was mechanical meters I feel there wasn't a way to tamper with the readings. Now that it's computerized I don't feel confident that they wouldn't be able to change the readings.
Yeah, I would think something
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Yeah, I would think something is wrong. Call KUB or your power company.
I think I've resolved the
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I think I've resolved the reason for my high electric bill. First off, my estimation of the bill being 80% higher was off, it was closer to 70%. The day after Thanksgiving I'd lost my brother and my son had come in for the funeral. While here not only did I wash a lot of clothes he brought in a couple of loads of clothes to wash from being out on the road. That along with all of us taking a lot of showers drove the bill up.
I looked at my bill and it was during this period that the consumption was higher. I'm still not completely understanding on how to read the bill though.
Moderna COVID-19 shot likelier to cause heart inflammation
Moderna COVID-19 shot likelier to cause heart inflammation than Pfizer's: study
"However, the overall risk of
(in reply to jbr)
"However, the overall risk of getting heart inflammation from the vaccines, both of which are based on mRNA-technology, was low, according to the study"
"Most of the cases had been mild..."
"One must keep in mind that the alternative of getting an infection with COVID-19 probably also involves a risk of inflammation in the heart muscle," ...
"However, the overall risk of
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"However, the overall risk of getting heart inflammation from the vaccines, both of which are based on mRNA-technology, was low, according to the study"
But would someone who already has suffered from congested heart failure be even of higher risk?
Dunno. That's a question for
(in reply to JaHu)
Dunno. That's a question for a doctor.
Titans offering Janssen Covid vaccine ....
I had not heard of this one ...
Titans Game Day Information
FACT SHEET FOR RECIPIENTS AND CAREGIVERS
Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen
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Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine...
Humans have infected wild deer
Covid is rampant among deer, research shows
Oh, great (:
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Oh, great (:
Wastewater samples reveal record levels of Covid-19 across U.S.
Wastewater samples reveal record levels of Covid-19 across U.S.
Doctors say Monoclonal Antibody Treatments are less effective
Doctors say Monoclonal Antibody Treatments are less effective against Omicron
United CEO, vaccine mandate appears to have ended weekly deaths
United CEO says vaccine mandate appears to have ended weekly deaths of employees from Covid
Wow! Should be headlines
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Wow! Should be headlines across the board.
COVID the leading cause of death among U.S. law enforcement 2021
COVID was again the leading cause of death among U.S. law enforcement in 2021
Lee and DeSantis
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COVID was again the leading cause of death among U.S. law enforcement in 2021
2021 END-OF-YEAR PRELIMINARY
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2021 END-OF-YEAR PRELIMINARY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FATALITIES REPORT
Massachusetts schools use dogs to sniff out Covid-19
Massachusetts schools use dogs to sniff out Covid-19
Delta: 8,000 employees contract Covid over the last four weeks
Delta loses $408 million; 8,000 employees contract Covid over the last four weeks
If I wasn't vaccinated, 'I wouldn't be here'
Stephen A. Smith after Covid: If I wasn't vaccinated, 'I wouldn't be here'
Three-quarters+ of Covid-19 deaths have been among seniors
More than three-quarters of US Covid deaths have been among seniors
Distribution of total COVID-19 deaths in the United States as of January 13, 2022, by age group
Do you think Jacobs,
(in reply to jbr)
Do you think Jacobs, Burchett, Blackburn, or Lee cares? I doubt it. It gets the elderly off Social Security. I hope this haunts them for the rest of their lives. Have they made a solitary attempt to protect the elderly without being forced too? I hope there are examples to prove me wrong. It's not just them I can't recall a single Republican make an attempt to protect the elderly .
+1
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+1
Flight bound for London turns around mid-flight
American Airlines flight bound for London turns around mid-flight over mask rule compliance
If Manchin ever has any
If Manchin ever has any aspirations of running for president. I think he's commiting political suicide, and flushed his chances down the toilet. He definitely couldn't run on the Democratic ticket considering the way he's turned his back on them. I wonder if West Virginians realized what they were getting when they elected him.
The headline of the story in
The headline of the story in the following link is self explanatory. I didn't even bother reading the story itself. I didn't see the need.
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It's exploding. Probably
(in reply to JaHu)
It's exploding. Probably won't hurt him, though.
The fact that it will be
(in reply to bizgrrl)
The fact that it will be swept under the rug shows the sad state our country is in right now.
Racism
(in reply to JaHu)
Facebook and Mitch McConnell both are using racism to drive their respective agendas. Call someone out for being racist on facebook. 30 day suspension. Let McConnell make a racist statement? Suspend anyone that points it out. This is a big money agenda.
Makes one wonder if
(in reply to fischbobber)
Makes one wonder if McConnell's seemingly Freudian slip was actually a purposely crafted statement.
Boston area Dunkin' customer
Boston area Dunkin' customer charged with assault after alleged hot coffee mask fight
Covid-19 hospitalizations are dropping in the Northeast
Covid-19 hospitalizations are dropping in the Northeast. In other parts of the country, they're rising
Snce all prognostication is by seat of the pants now anyway.....
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I'd say we are within ten days of our peak. Had we been engaged in any sort of mitigation process, I'd say we would be about past it, but it looks like a brief period of still worse before better. Hard to tell for sure with the data available.
Unvaccinated seniors nearly 50 times more likely hospitalized
CDC: Unvaccinated seniors nearly 50 times more likely to be hospitalized than those with boosters
What a dad
He should get father of the year.
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Florida shuts down all monoclonal antibody treatment sites
Florida shuts down all monoclonal antibody treatment sites after FDA decision to limit use of certain treatments not proven effective against Omicron
Are there any pictures of the
Are there any pictures of the old South Knoxville Elementary School floating around anywhere?
I remember attending kindergarten there, but I spent my first and second grades at a little school called Dora Kennedy where my mother taught before returning to South Knoxville Elementary for my 3rd and 4th grades. But during the two years I was gone, the new school had been built and the old school had been torn down.
I was just wondering if there were any pictures of the old school and it being torn down during or after the construction of the new school?
Man caught on camera berating kids over wearing masks
Man caught on camera berating kids over wearing masks
Boosted Americans 97 times less likely to die of COVID
Boosted Americans 97 times less likely to die of virus than unvaccinated; CDC predicts 75,000 more deaths by Feb. 26: Live COVID-19 updates
I could scream. We were doing
(in reply to jbr)
I could scream. We were doing pretty well then a bunch of "deplorables" decide not to get vaccines and it hurts all of us. Sure, I'm glad I am most unlikely to die from COVID. However, it would be nice if 98% of us were in the same boat and COVID would be much less of a problem.
I get some of my news from
I get some of my news from Google on my mobile device. They sometimes provide news from different news sources about the same subject. But what I have noticed is whenever there is a negative news story about Biden, there will be an article from Fox covering the subject. But!!! If there's a story about Jan. 6th or something negative about Trump or any other right-wing craziness, there will be crickets from Fox.
I wonder if right wingers who only watch fox, realize how much news they are actually missing. Don't get me wrong, I also don't trust just CNN to give me unbiased news but they will sometimes post negative stuff about Biden.