Trying to get a rise out of us Obama folks?

Clinton's got the Governor of Maryland
& a Senator from Hawaii.She lost both.

Since super tuesday,it's no suprise to anyone that
the uncommited super delegates would put one
or the other over the top.

Fact..there are super delegates for Obama in
states Clinton won..there are super delegates
for Clinton in states Obama won.

Some super delegates are going with who won their
congressional district.

One super delegate pointed out he may go the
way his hometown went.

Jimmy Carter of Plains,Georgia.

If Obama can somehow get an upset win in Pa.

We win.

If not..next stop..N.C & Indiana...May 6th.

we go to nc & indiana

I am a Democrat and if Obama wins most delegates from state primaries and caucauses and Hillary is chosen to run for President, I will be voting for McCain- never Hillary.And there are millions of voters just like me.
The reason?
She's about as dirty a politician as there is. She tears Obama down, and Obama has continued to be respectful. American voters can see this. OBAMA can beat McCain!! No problem!!!
As far as MI and FL are concerned, the people CHOSE to vote KNOWING their delegates would not be COUNTED. I hope Mr. Dean continues to go by the rules!!!

Super delegates are not bound to vote how the people they represent vote. As with Sen. Edward Kennedy from Massachusetts who has also endorsed Obama when the voters from Massachusetts overwhelmingly selected Clinton.

I don't think I smashed Kennedy, just making a statement, which is apparently invalid in relation to the purpose of the post. Did not do my homework on Kennedy and still haven't, trusting your knowledge. Thought he endorsed after the MA primary.

I am a Democrat and if Obama wins most delegates from state primaries and caucauses and Hillary is chosen to run for President, I will be voting for McCain- never Hillary.And there are millions of voters just like me.
The reason?
She's about as dirty a politician as there is. She tears Obama down, and Obama has continued to be respectful. American voters can see this. OBAMA can beat McCain!! No problem!!!

This type of attitude is one reason why I posted this information.

It is not that Richardson did anything wrong, it is that some people only want the super delegates to vote for/against the voters of their state if the super delegates vote for their candidate. The point is, as with Richardson, the super delegates can vote however they want and there is nothing wrong with that.

Isn't Clinton herself telling pledged delegates that they should vote for who they personally want instead of honoring the caucus or primary results?

I suspect she is and, as I said before, so what? Again, Richardson is a perfect example as to why it is okay. People should remember it was after Carter's run for re-election where Kennedy ran against him (for some ridiculous reason) that the super delegates came into play.

The 1980 convention was notable, as it was the last time in the 20th century that either major party that a candidate tried to get delegates released from their voting commitment. This was done by Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., Carter's chief rival for the nomination in the Democratic primaries, who sought the votes of delegates held by Carter.

Some Democrats believed that these changes had unduly diminished the role of party leaders and elected officials, weakening the Democratic tickets of George McGovern and Jimmy Carter. In 1982, a commission chaired by former North Carolina Governor Jim Hunt created superdelegates.

bizgrrl thought you knew Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama before the Ma. primary because you posted comments about Caroline Kennedy's endorsement of Obama in the NYT...right after the SC primary.

Sen.Kennedy & Caroline Kennedy appeared the next day at a Obama rally.

So it was nonsensical to me that you would say what you did about Inoway & O'Malley for doing the same thing Kennedy did.

But you didnt know because you didn't do your homework.

So,no,you did not smash Kennedy.

With respect to 1980..I was for Kennedy.

The '80 convention fight was over the "robot rule"

The robot rule BOUND delegates to the candidate
that they were pledged to in the caucuses & primaries

never been done before or since.

Kennedy was making a last gasp bid to win the nomination & challenged the rule on the floor.

Kennedy lost the robot rule challenge & quit the race that night.

Joe Trippi,worked for Edwards this time,worked the floor for Kennedy.

Harold Ickes,whose running Clinton's super delegate operation,also worked for Ted Kennedy in '80.

fyi..there was a story in the N-S op ed page about the robot rule

this week or last week by Susan Eldridge.

If the superdelegates are required to vote as their constituents, why even have them. Why not just increase the number of state delegates?

I don't like the superdelegate rule but they're there and they are part of the rules all candidates were aware of going in.

To me it comes down to margin of error. If the candidates are close, It won't bother me if the SDs tip the balace in either direction. If one candidate comes with in a hundred or 2 of the nomination and the SDs tip it the other way, I'll be unhappy with the process.

Either way I'll vote for the D candidate.

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