Tue
Aug 26 2014
09:01 pm
By: R. Neal
Knox Co. Schools Superintended McIntyre apparently doesn't think newly elected school board member Amber Rountree should be allowed to participate in orientation for new school board members because she's pregnant, or something?
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I guess there aren't any
I guess there aren't any local political consequences for stupid if the governor has your back from over in Nashville.
HIPAA again?
Unbelievable. How does anyone support him now?
Simply weird.
If some sort of political calculation, quite possibly the most stupid ever,
One thing that bumfuzzles me
One thing that bumfuzzles me is that her (soon to be former) job as a librarian and her elected position as a school board member are entirely separate. She's not doing these BOE activities as part of her job.
Makes sense Ms. Rountree
Makes sense Ms. Rountree wants to avoid a gap in insurance coverage or paying COBRA premiums before she gets insurance for being on the BOE. I suppose Mr. McIntyre would prefer that she stay in her librarian job and hand it off to someone else a couple of weeks into school? Or maybe he's talked to her physician. His petulance isn't cute no matter what its motivation.
And he's making clear who he thinks is working for whom in the BOE-superintendent relationship.
I don't think BOE members get
I don't think BOE members get health insurance.
I think Amber and the baby will go on her husband's policy this fall.
I also don't think this arrangement is unique to her.
Can you smell fresh douhnuts?
(in reply to Bbeanster)
Maybe that "3 PR Magi" humanizing ice water dunking did short circuit something in Jimbo C3PO's mother board......It certainly shorted out his Mother -to-be Board ..This is just astounding.All you teachers who struggled and fought.This is what you can expect if you turn from the struggle now.Obviously defeated BOE candidate Trainor was there in C3PO's ear.Thank you David Buuck for doing the legal and proper thing....Betty, this stinks just like the false kangaroo court ethics charge against Mike McMillan,drummed up by Team Trainor .To attempt this outrage against a pregnant former KCS librarian and BOE member- elect is well.....uh....ah...uh..Magi-riffic.....The 3 PR Magi ( & Jimbo) have gifted eponymously...
(1)Balthazar(Mike the BS er) gave us Rocky and boy wannabehuman JimboPinocchio..
(2)Melchior (SualchemiorW )tried to turn her mental lead and common core dross into gold
(3)Casper (Cyndy the invisible vapor) gave us a Ghostly employee that has haunted our wallets for at least 2 years.Are there more top dollar spectrals roaming the dark recesses of Jimboland?
This latest attack on Amber carries a strong but familiar stench..Can it be..Can it be..Has our band of 3Magi added another...
(4)Yes, welcome the newest, the 4th of the crew....Dulce de leche originated south of the border... Crunchy, granulated sugar coats the outside...It is sickeningly sweet on the outside , but the inside is poison and lethal,full of woe and darkness.That is our girl.. ..Welcome Krispior our new 4th PR Magi.
Were Mrs. Rountree on leave
Were Mrs. Rountree on leave from a job outside the system, this would not even be an issue......except one of discrimination.
if this gains traction,
he will claim this is about policy.
The correspondence on the 13th may have given him an out, the unnecessary specifics not withstanding.
The correspondence on the 18th makes clear his problem.
Couple of things:I learned
Couple of things:
I learned of these events Friday afternoon, and by the time I could get the story confirmed, it was too late to get both sides to comment. Given our cumbersome deadline/publication lag, all I could do was stick to the correspondence, which pretty much speaks for itself – and is considerably more voluminous than the snippets I had room for in my story.
This 'lag' problem is supposed to corrected soon by way of a new SN blog.
Ah, the injure and destroy
Ah, the injure and destroy your enemies at all costs mentality results in stuff like this. Just glad he's not elected, because that would be really embarrassing and he would be political and everything.
Has he become too much of a liability for Haslam yet?
The political
The political calculation?
Probably this: Rountree doesn't go to orientation or other BOE events, then McIntyre and his lackeys begin spreading the word that Rountree doesn't "prepare" or isn't "ready" or is "overwhelmed" in her BOE position. I'm betting that's the calculation.
BOE Chair?
I think the next dumb move for McIntyre is to try and rig the vote for BOE Chair by excluding Amber from voting. Except that might make a 4 to 4 tie. Let me guess, the current Chair or Super is the tie breaking vote? Call the PR team, imminent stupid ahead.
McIntyre needs to go, one way
McIntyre needs to go, one way or the other.
I'm sick of this bully
McIntyre on the Rude Awakening this morning. (link...)
They don't like him and neither do I. How bad is it when Amber had to be escorted to orientation by the Assistant Law Director?
link?
(in reply to Ann L)
I will not listen to the link you have posted twice now. It is for a radio station that airs Glen Beck, Shawn Hannity, Herman Cain, Alex Jones....
+1000 A lot of the posters
(in reply to B Harmon)
+1000
A lot of the posters here who suffer from Fire McIntyre tourettes are coming straight out of crazy land and are not progressive allies. Knox county schools certainly need new leadership. However, without being tethered to some existing reality, nothing will ultimately change. They will continue to vote for "common sense conservatives" who will continue to implement the neoliberal mantra of choice, assessment, and accountability... the very things that they're all fired up about.
hmmm.Some of the commentary
(in reply to Ann L)
the personal attacks on Amy re sunshine law are unjustified.
I'm sick of knee jerk dumbasses
(in reply to Ann L)
posting fatuous drivel from the small-minded village of Mark-Levineabad, Glenbeckistan as they desperately clutch their dog eared copy of CONFORM.
How bad is it that right wingers have to be escorted to the world by self-serving POS's like Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levine and Savage who cash in on their fear-filled, racist, logic-free brains?
Lemme guess:
Obama is a secret Muslim who wants to implement Sharia law
Ambition cures poverty
Common core dates back to our earliest socialists
Social security is going bankrupt
Public education is in crisis because teachers unions
Everything will be just fine once JMac is gone
Good luck "Ann whoever the hell L" with not letting facts and reality get in the way of your daily rude awakening, albeit that's luck you don't need. Next time you tune in do us a favor, call in and ask Mike and Shyne if they're entertainers, journalists or both. We eagerly await your thoughtless reply and youtube! link to Beck talking about how he wants to beat Rep. Rangel and other people death with a shovel.
btw
Here's my post about Betty's piece, which included quotes from Rountree, a statement from McIntyre, and all the actual emails for your downloading pleasure:
(link...)
A new low from McIntyre.
A new low from McIntyre. Very telling about how HE perceives the employER / employEE relationship between he and the board.
I think he's about to learn a "rigorous and robust" lesson about how that actually works.
Fire McIntyre tourettes are
Fire McIntyre tourettes are coming straight out of crazy land and are not progressive allies
Hmmm. Tourette syndrome is a serious issue, glad you are able to make light of it though. Is anyone else offended? Is anything below McIntyre supporters?
I didn't listen to Rude Awakening. Didn't have to. I trust Bean. Is the new tactic to characterize all critics of McIntyre as being RWNJs?
If it is, I suggest you go back to your drawing boards and come up with a Plan B.
I knew that you'd come
(in reply to KC)
I knew that you'd come through for me...
pregnancy as a physical disability?
Pregnancy is not a physical disability. It is an emotional disability that presents in fathers-to-be.
?
(in reply to Moon)
Speak for yourself. Men that choose to be a bumbling caricature of a fool do every bit the disservice to men that women that choose to be a helpless airhead do to women. We are the spouse and parent we choose to be.
Re ?
(in reply to fischbobber)
Unwind aquamarine person. it's a freaking joke.
Normally
(in reply to Moon)
I would have laughed and not responded, however, what is unfolding in our school system is about as funny a joke as a bully dumping a handicapped kid out of a wheelchair. You might get a few chuckles out of some people, but some things are just wrong and perpetrating the myth only feeds the beast.
pregnancy could be a disability when...
Rountree had a doctor support that she has a physical disability that made her eligible to use her sick leave when this school year began and to remain on sick leave until she terminates her employment. Places I've worked do not allow an employee to use sick leave unless the employee is expected to return to work (of course there are exceptions due to employee death). Where I've worked you can use up your vacation time prior to termination, but not sick leave. Seems to me the Knox Co school system has a generous sick leave policy, particularly since the Family Medical Leave Act is available.
As a taxpayer, I too would have questions about her participation in other activities while on disability. It looks a bit suspect to me that she is able to participate in both a school tour and an orientation meeting while on disability during August when school is in session.
Her resignation effective Sept 1 will qualify her to remain on the Knox Co schools active employee health insurance plan thru the end of September, thus covering her delivery and avoiding costly Cobra plans for Ms. Rountree. Keeping the employee health insurance during the pregnancy and the delivery may have been the motive for Rountree's disability. Plus she's drawing a paycheck for August while using up a bunch of banked sick time, and maybe she'll get paid for any banked vacation time she had remaining at her termination.
I'm curious, do members of the BOE have health insurance available, and at what cost?
Baloney
Rountree worked until the end of the school year. Last I looked, teachers weren't working this summer, so she got no special privilege there. She's been on unpaid leave this year, and her resignation will be effective Sept 1. Her insurance, as per contract, expires Sept. 30. Just like anyone else's.
She will then be covered under her husband's policy (not that it's any or your business, or mine).
The state has lumped maternity leave under the sick leave category. Maybe they should change the language. Whatever the case, Rountree's not receiving any special treatment.
The school tour and the orientation session are activities connected to her position as a school board member-elect, not her soon-to-be former job as a school librarian.
This is just a dumb, hair-splitting argument that doesn't live in the real world.
Here's the state law re maternity leave for teachers:
0520-1-2-.04 LEAVE FOR TEACHERS.
(1) The term “teacher” shall mean any person employed by a local board of education in a position which requires a license issued by the State Department of Education. The term “teacher” shall not apply to a substitute teacher.
(2) Sick Leave. “Sick leave” shall mean leave of absence because of illness of a teacher from natural causes or accident, quarantine, or illness or death of a member of the immediate family of a teacher, including the teacher’s wife or husband, parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren, brothers, sisters, mother-in-law, father-in-law, daughter-in-law, son-in-law, brother-in-law, and sister-in-law. Upon written request of the teacher accompanied by a statement from her physician verifying pregnancy, any teacher who goes on maternity leave shall be allowed to use all or a portion of her accumulated sick leave for maternity leave purposes during the period of her physical disability only, as determined by a physician.
September, 2008 (Revised) 8
disability
Is special treatment being granted disability ostensibly due to pregnancy? Maybe Knox Co Schools does that on a routine basis, I dunno. FMLA offers 12 weeks of time off for pregnancy/birth. Maybe in Rountree's case 12 weeks wasn't enough for her to stay on the Knox Co employee health insurance thru delivery, so disability was granted. I dunno.
I have some friends that are class room teachers, and they worked this summer for Knox Co Schools, so they only had about 4 weeks off this summer (most of July). I don't know if there are summer jobs available for librarians.
Was there special treatment? Maybe not in the Knox Co School world. In the rest of the world, once an employee gives notice they are leaving I would find granting disability a rarer event, particularly to an employer who is trying to keep their health care costs down.
Y'all are missing the
Y'all are missing the significance of this whole thing.
“I certainly appreciate the opinion of the deputy Law Director, but I’m not willing to accept the potential risk or any potential appearance of impropriety,” he said.
This is the opening salvo intended to smear by implication the reputation of Rountree.
Already some commenters on here are spreading the smear further.
Use of "disability," "appearance of impropriety," code words to damage Rountree before she even starts.
McIntyre is the most political superintendent we've ever had. Fire him now.
Well, KC, according to
(in reply to KC)
Well, KC, according to Philander Claxton - who spoke glowingly on McIntyre's behalf during the controver$ial December 9 BOE meeting where his contract was extended by a forced vote, and who again spoke on Mcintyre's behalf during his August '14 performance review - Mcintyre is "apolitical".
Yeah, right.
On your final point I agree. Fire him NOW. For CAUSE. And this "side agreement" between the BOE and McIntyre needs to result in the honorable resignation of each and every BOE member who signed that atrocious, undemocratic piece of tripe.
Nobody
(in reply to GSD)
signed anything. That was erroneous reporting on Donila's part, which I unwittingly repeated and have since corrected. More TK.
*
(in reply to GSD)
The agreement is right here. I initially members sign it, although I also said they vote/approve it, too. I forgot to remove the "signing" part out of my the entry.
Cari, because it makes her feel good about herself, happily points out that mistake.
Unlike
(in reply to mdonila)
Some other news organizations in town, MP regularly posts corrections. We believe in transparency when we report something incorrectly.
.
(in reply to cwg)
No you don't
I'm not going to fight with
(in reply to mdonila)
I'm not going to fight with you, Mike. You're a good reporter, and I regularly give you credit for that, tweeting to your work and telling people to read it and/or blogging about it, like yesterday. That's why I regularly pass on tips to you, for stories that are either out of our circulation area or out of our much smaller staff's capability. Knoxville needs more reporters doing the work you do. And more reporters doing the work Jamie does, despite y'all constantly haranguing each other on twitter. And more reporters like Betty, too.
The more we all work to scoop each other, and the more we update and upgrade each other's work, the better off Knoxville is as a whole. It's not a zero-sum game. There will always be more news. There will always be people in government that need to be held accountable, no matter who's is charge. And there will regularly be errors, because we all are human and on tight deadlines and don't have a bunch of copy editors and proofreaders and fact-checkers vetting things.
Hopefully, most of those times those errors will be incredibly minor typos or a misspelled name. Sometimes, like yesterday, a minor detail will be off. It happens to all of us. I want to be told about such errors on mine or MP's part so I can correct them. If you know about errors I've made that I haven't corrected, shoot me an email so I can get to them. But don't attack me when I constantly give you credit.
Pretty arrogant. You really
(in reply to cwg)
Pretty arrogant. You really enjoy your role don't you? It makes no difference that it wasn't signed. Read the county charter about the role of school board members. You've defended McIntyre at ever turn. Gleefully.
Yeah
(in reply to Cece)
That's exactly I why I went in-depth on all the issues teachers were speaking out about last fall:
(link...)
If it pisses you off that I'm reporting both sides of the story, I don't really give a shit. That's my job. But you'd have to be really hard pressed to find a defense of McIntyre in any of my reporting.
Oh, and I won a first place award for that story.
(link...)
And Donila won many well deserved awards for his reporting on the criminal court clerk's office and Jamie won well deserved awards for her work on school security (well, the lack thereof.) Bitch about us all you want. We'll keep working.
Out of Curiosity
(in reply to cwg)
I have no dog in this fight. However, since you're taking the high ground here...
Did you ever revisit the voucher school issue after you fell hook, line, and sinker for Haslam's dog and pony show brought to you by the University of WalMart?
My voucher story
(in reply to Stick)
Presented people on both sides of the issue. That's what I do. But I don't think anyone reading it (except for possibly a handful of people who lack all sense of proportion and see any attempt at letting people explain a side of the story with which they don't agree as a bad thing) would conclude that it was pro-voucher or pro-Haslam. Anytime you want to write a guest column or a letter to the editor, you're more than welcome!
Experts in the field
(in reply to cwg)
After which you quote one researcher [from Univ. of WalMart] and one study being peddled by the Beacon Center as though one study "proves" anything. However, even a cursory check would have alerted you to the fact that the majority of studies from the US and around the world have yet to demonstrate their effectiveness or at least the issue is hotly debated. More specific to Milwaukee, a review of easily available scores from local media would have alerted you to this problem.
You did present both sides of politicos' positioning on the issue. The issue is that you ended it by carrying water w/o even knowing it.
I wonder if J-schools are
(in reply to Stick)
I wonder if J-schools are responsible for the shift from challenging public figures on the veracity of their statements or whether journalists made the choice themselves to become largely stenographers? I'm not accusing Cari of this; I've slept since reading the vouchers article. But jumping Jerusalem! it drives me to distraction on the anthropogenic climate change issue.
Yeah, I'm being a pedant
(in reply to peixao)
Yeah, I'm being a pedant here. CWG does some really good stuff on local politics.
I think what you're touching on is more of a structural issue in journalism (declining revenues, less resources, and crazy workloads) and when coupled with the long demonization of the so-called 'liberal media' you get a situation where factually challenged statements and zombie ideas simply refuse to die. Like I said in another thread... Hyper-reality is here.
How is it MP has a crazy workload?
(in reply to Stick)
They have 6 days to prepare their stories as they only publish once a week and it's very weakly. In the digital age there is no reason to have a deadline three days before the paper hits the streets.
Now TV and the daily paper that would be a crazy work load, especially TV where most are on the sir 4:30-7:00 am, NOON, 4-6:30 pm, 10 pm - 11:30 pm.
ok
(in reply to cwg)
"Bitch about us all you want. We'll keep working."
For who? For a person who claims to cover both sides, how is it that you have yet to report much if any on McIntyre breaking the law, skirting the law, dodging the law? Can you show anything other than you covering for McIntyre? What you do is claim McIntyre didn't break the law. Answering objections like a PR maven. That is your version of working?
fyi
(in reply to cwg)
Thought you should see this: (link...)
It would be a great story for next week, right?
Not that it matters greatly
(in reply to Bad Paper)
and I dislike the persona of Karen Carson, but the guy on Facebook that was able to get Carson on the hook. His kids are in private school. Correct?
Odd, Metro Pulse Covers Both Sides? NOT
(in reply to cwg)
In October 2013 MP ran multiple stories (print, blog, tweets) about a lawsuit filing against me, all while I wouldn't respond, primarily because it took 12-14 days after their "journalism" for me to be served with the "reported" suit.
The very minute In November 2013 I sent out the answer which MP kept saying they would report! they didn't. When I asked the Editor via email so as to have a email trail, his response was that the other persons counsel wouldn't comment. Interesting, that didn't keep MP from running articles, blogs, tweets when I didn't go on the record.
McElroy editorialized on it, but MP ignored my answer. So, when they give out this bogus, we are not biased. I say yeah take your Pinocchio nose else where.
because it took 12-14 days
(in reply to Brian Hornback)
Well, it wouldn't really make sense to take reporters' phone calls while dodging the process server. But once you get served and feel safe to issue a statement about a lawsuit that became news the minute it was filed and made part of the public record, the newsworthiness of a comment offered weeks later might have lost some of its value.
You ASSume facts that are NOT Factual
(in reply to Hildegard)
The day the process server came to the address of service, I called him within 75 minutes and scheduled a 7 am appointment the next morning. The problem is the Attorney did not use a private process server, he allowed the court to serve the suit.
Again, the suit will have it's day in court and I believe McElroy was point on in his opinion. The issue is MP with Corey and Cari say one thing, but real facts and real email comments speak for themselves.
A) It's Coury. B) I have
(in reply to Brian Hornback)
A) It's Coury.
B) I have never spoken to you once about the lawsuit, nor emailed you about it. I think Betty might have written that?
C) None of us at MP really care about what a troll like you thinks about our reporting.
A troll?
(in reply to cwg)
You didn't say that when you came in studio with Donila and I on The Rude Awakening on May 6, 2014. It seemed you wanted to get the attention of hanging out with Donila and didn't object to be on air with me either.
BTW, I mentioned tweets, blog stories and print. I am pretty sure you do most of the tweets of MP especially the drunken foul mouthed ones.
oh really?
(in reply to cwg)
How is that transparency for what you won't report? Can you really even call it reporting? It's more like answering objections isn't it?
Signed, written, formed, voted on,
whatevs.
Where can the document be found?
It was in both Donila's and
(in reply to Average Guy)
It was in both Donila's and my blog posts.
(link...)
So,
(in reply to cwg)
McIntyre's spokesperson says; " I think it is important to note that the Superintendent does not vote upon or sign the agreement."?
Yes, he wrote it.
Which is worse.
So, Fugate and Carson say "no one actually signs off on anything."?
Yes, they actually followed government protocal and took a public vote in it.
Which is worse.
So, Knox County's Law Director was asked by a duly elected Knox County School Board member, if a document the previous BOE voted on was legal and enforceable?
And the Law Director says "no".
Makes it sound illegal.
Is it?
Peasant
(in reply to Average Guy)
You simply don't understand the Cult of the Rocky Broad Code, peasant
Yeah I know
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
Not allowed cake or behind closed doors.
The Law Director's website provides the following: "The Law Director’s Office has a duty to execute and administer the legal affairs of the County."
He was asked a pertinent question and gave a succinct answer.
But this is Knox County, so that's probably where it ends.
But this is Knox County, so
But this is Knox County, so that's probably where it ends
I doubt it. McIntyre has seriously messed up on this one.
KC, I'm afraid that - as
(in reply to KC)
KC, I'm afraid that - as always - the BOE will circle the wagons, the spin machine will go into high gear yet again, the KNS will smoke screen the whole issue, and Mc will come out smelling like a jargon-spewing rose. That's been the pattern.
Yes but McIntyre went after
(in reply to GSD)
Yes but McIntyre went after Burchett. Big mistake going after someone with 85% of vote. Even the Haslams leave Burchett well enough alone. Offend an 85% of voters and you've made yourself a good number of enemies.
Good point, just hoping that
(in reply to KC)
Good point, just hoping that that 85% are paying attention.
Thank you. I think they are
(in reply to GSD)
Thank you. I think they are and have been paying attention.