1 - all guns are always loaded

2 - Never a point a gun at anything you do not want to destroy (reporter?)

I always like to add something to these two: Unless you have personally verified that it is not loaded. After all, how would disassemble or clean the gun?

Well, crap, andy, if we always followed the gun safetey rules, we couldn't make movies.

Duh.

I was just saying that Lumpster looked like a walk-on in a bad remake of The Big Lebowski.

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So Lumpy defended himself and WATE is still sensationalist, good for both of them! Stacey

Within its limits the .380 is a fine cartiridge. In Europe the .380 ACP is refered to as the 9mm Kurz. "Kurz" meaning short in German. The .380 is about 3/4 the length of a standard 9mm. At close range it's relelatively equivalent. At anything past, I'd say, about 10 yards you'd be better off throwing rocks. Both the .380 and 9mm are actually 0.355 inches in diameter if you measure them with a micrometer. The .38 Special is longer than both but about the same actual diameter. The 9mm typically has a hotter load than the .38 Special - talking factory ammo here - since the breech is contained in automatics as opposed to wheel guns. All that said it is foolish to be on the wroing side of any of the three.

Take Care, Be Good and don't play in the street!

SteveMule

"Is a .380 that much different than you beloved 38 special?"

Not hugely. I do give the edge to the .38 because of the heavier bullets in the 158 gr LSWCHP (FBI load). The muzzle energy works out to be the same, but the momentum figure is higher for the heavy .38 bullets. And with a .38 if you really need something crazy hot and you don't handload you can use Buffalo Bore brand.

Here are some ballistic gelatin tests of the .38 FBI load, .38 CCI SB (short barrel), and .380 HydraShok. All three rounds penetrate to about the same depth, but while the .380 is expanding to .47 the .38s are blooming out to .60.

Stevemule: didn't know you were one of us. Yeah, the 9 mm is actually better than the .38 ballistically, and compares pretty well to moderate .357 loads in a short barrel. The main advantage in a .38/.357 revolver is being able to use bullets that wouldn't feed reliably in an auto. But I envy the low cost of 9 mm every time I buy ammo, and I'm impressed with its velocity numbers in short barrels.

Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

on Amazon. Pretty cool, and less than fifteen bucks. I just use the self-timer when I shoot off a tripod because the subjects I shoot aren't time sensitive, but if I had a Nikon I'd buy one of those.

Re: Lumpy's decisions - Whenever I read accounts of people who survived shootings or drawn-gun encounters, I'm very hesitant to criticize them for anything less than gross violations of good sense or the law. He was there, I wasn't, and who's to say I'd have walked away from it as happily and healthily as he did?

Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

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Hi this is Greg “LUMPY” Lambert I don’t usually post here but I decided to address some of the issues that have come up. The video clip of me drawing the firearm was staged. My weapon was unloaded and the clip was removed. The reporter asked if I could show her what happened using the gun as a prop, I unloaded the firearm and showed her and the camera man how to determine that a gun is unloaded.

Pointing even unloaded firearms at something you don’t intend to shoot in an unsafe practice and should not be done under normal circumstances, however firearms are often used as props. When using a firearm, as a prop normal safety rules don’t apply, in this situation the gun was unloaded and checked immediately before the footage was taped.

If something ongoing were being produced (like a movie or TV show) an air soft (realistic toy) gun would be used or the weapon would have been permanently modified so that it could not chamber a live round. In the case of a short one-time sequence like the footage for the news story often a real weapon (usually the actual weapon used in the events that are being recreated) are used but it is absolutely essential that the weapon be checked and rechecked to keep accidents from happening.

As for why I did not shoot; I did not have to, I had the drop on him by a half second If he had shot me (and hit me in a vital area, remember he did not appear to be skilled with a firearm and he was armed with a .25 acp) I could have returned fire before his 1st shot hit me (I hope), at that range (about 6 feet max) one shot would have probably stopped him. My gut (and possibly God) told me I could give him a chance to surrender his weapon. I gave him that opportunity and he took it.

Kane Stackhouse (the perpetrator) is not an animal he is a human being, a young scared one at that. It would have been a tragedy if his life (or mine) had been lost. Thankfully this incident ended without bloodshed. Kane Stackhouse is a young man with his whole life ahead of him he is now safely behind bars where he is no longer a threat to himself or others. Whatever demon (probably drugs) brought him to my office I hope and pray he gets the help he needs.

I could spend the rest of my life 2nd guessing what happened, but instead I thank God no one was hurt.