Mon
Nov 26 2007
12:41 am

Don't forget to attend the superintendent search forums tonight (11/26) at either Austin East or Central High School auditoriums, beginning at 7:00 pm.

The search firm will be conducting a survey of residents to see what the community feels are important qualities for the new superintendent.

Additional forums will be held Tuesday, 11/27/07, at South Doyle and Bearden High School auditoriums, also at 7:00 pm.

Click here or here for more information.

See you there!

Mike Cohen's picture

Superintendent input

There are few jobs in the community that can have a greater long-term impact that Superintendent. Anyone who can go to one of these forums should do so. If not, let the schools or your board member know what you think is important.

Carole Borges's picture

Lisa the date is tonight 11/26

Somehow you put 11/29 on your post.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Thanks, Carole

Thanks, fixed.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Central Forum

Small crowd tonight at the Central High Forum. I liked the format, which was just a general question and answer, raise your hand to speak type of thing, which may have been possible only because of the small number of folks who attended. The meeting leader threw out a few general questions about what we wanted in a superintendent to get us started. Questions like, "What is it about Knoxville that would motivate a candidate to come here?" And, "What are the challenges a new superintendent would face if they took the job?"

Then we took a written survey with a list of 32 desired qualities or criteria for choosing the new superintendent and we were asked to pick the 10 most important. One of my criteria, "superintendent should be technologically savvy" was not on the list, so I was invited to add it as one of my ten.

I asked whether, given that it was a cold, rainy night on the Monday after Thanksgiving and the turnout was not that great, if they could post the survey on the web for others, or at minimum, if a PDF file of the survey could be posted for internet users to print out and fax to them? The answer was no, because the school board had not authorized it. Baah. I wish a school board member would respond as I don't see why it would hurt - seems to me the more opinions the better.

As the meeting leader pointed out, the comments and sentiments expressed at the public forum would make it to their report, but there were no guarantees that the school board would take any of the input into consideration.

Nevertheless, I think it is worth doing to gather people's ideas and opinions in every way possible, including via the web. I think it is a reflection on the school board's lack of experience and/or general queasiness with public input and involvement that they didn't think of it themselves or allow it to happen.

One of the best comments I heard tonight was that the biggest challenge facing the new superintendent was dealing with a school board that was not unified and trying to please too many masters - the public plus a divided school board, and the political finesse to pull that off.

Also a good comment came from the facilitator who said any solutions or ideas the superintendent came with would take time to implement, and further that there were a number of constraints on what could be achieved in a given timeframe - like compliance with No Child Left Behind, working within the allotted budget, etc.

Here's the list of the survey criteria. I did at least get permission from them to reproduce it so that everyone could see what criteria was being considered.

Remember, they won't let you participate unless you show up at one of the meetings tomorrow night. But, hopefully posting the criteria will give someone food for thought and motivate them to attend.

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Qualities Desired:

1. Willing to listen to input, but can make a decision when necessary.

2. Remains current on educational issues

3. Has demonstrated strong leadership skills in previous positions.

4. Able to work with legislators.

5. Possession of an earned Ed.D or Ph.D. degree.

6. Inspires trust, has high levels of self-confidence and optimism, and models high standards of integrity and personal performance.

7. Effective communication skills to include speaking, listening and writing.

8. Commitment to community visibility with high interest in a broad range of community groups and organizations.

9. Ability to work cooperatively with the Board of Education.

10. Successful experience in sound management practices, including appropriate participation of others in planning and decision-making.

11. Ability to build consensus and commitment among individuals and groups with emphasis on parental involvement.

12. Ability to develop and direct an effective administrative team, with a commitment to the professional growth and development of team members.

13. Ability to delegate authority appropriately while maintaining accountability.

14. Experience in the management of district resources and knowledge of sound fiscal procedures.

15. Possesses excellent people skills.

16. Committed to keeping the Board informed.

17. Strongly committed to a "student first" philosophy in all decisions.

18. Ability to develop both short and long-range district goals.

19. Ability to develop and communicate a vision of quality education for the future to the board, staff and community.

20. Successful experience in the selection and implementation of educational priorities consistent with the interests and needs of students, staff, board and community.

21. Commitment to the importance of both the academic and activity programs.

22. Ability to secure and promote positive student behavior conducive to student achievement/learning climate.

23. Skilled leadership in the development of inservice training for administrators, support staff and teaching staff.

24. Possesses the leadership skills required to respond to the challenges presented by an ethnically and culturally diverse community.

25. Ability to identify and select building and central office administrators who are capable of advancing the district vision.

26. Work experience in a similar district.

27. Inspires and motivates others to achieve or exceed No Child Left Behind annual yearly progress requirements.

28. Ability to lead a large organization dedicated to goals of continuous improvement.

29. Ability to develop and maintain a mutually beneficial relationship between the business community and the school district.

30. Demonstrated ability to enhance student performance, especially in identifying and closing or narrowing the gaps in student achievement.

31. Demonstrated ability to work with the media.

32. Recommendations and decisions are data driven.

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It was hard to pick just 10. For anyone who cares, my choices were:

33. Technologically savvy (I added)

32, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 15, 19, 29

What's your thoughts? Share them here if you want, but most importantly, participate tomorrow night at one of the forums.

Rachel's picture

Lisa, Thanks for the report.

Lisa,

Thanks for the report. I can't make it to the meeting, but would provide input via web if it was offered.

Seems like it would be good for the SB to embrace using technology to facilitate dialog with the public.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Carole Borges's picture

I attended the Austin East forum

It also had a very small attendance, but the people who came were very open, knowledgeable about the problems a new superintendent would face, and eager to help create a profile that the search organization could use when recruiting candidates.

The main qualities the attendees said they were hoping to find in a new superintendent included good communication skills and the ability to relate to a diverse population; accessibilty; a solid technology background; someone who was not intimidating that could build bridges between parents, teachers and school administrators; someone who had a good record at improving student test scores; someone who was equally interested in ALL of Knoxville's schools; and someone who was progressive with knowledge about new ideas and ways of teaching.

When asked what they thought Knoxville could offer candidates, the audience said Knoxville had very committed teachers. They felt Knoxville was a place where someone could really make a difference, where there were children hungry for a good education and parents willing to support them if they were given a chance to be heard and to feel their input was valued. They also said the cost of living here was low, and that it was a great place to raise a family. They all agreed Knoxville was a city that was growing.

When asked what the biggest problems the new superintendent would face in the first 100 days, the participants listed a lack of support from parents and low academic achievment in the highest poverty areas.

Indya's picture

web survey

When the deluge of rain started falling just prior to the forum at Central, I asked about doing a web survey for those unable to attend a public meeting. As long as a web survey supplements face to face meetings I don't see why we shouldn't do it. With things like surveymonkey.com it should be cheap and relatively easy. I believe we did mention this in our meeting with the search firm. It may not have been officially authorized, but it certainly wasn't prohibited or discouraged in anyway.

I welcome the input and agree - the more the better!

Indya's picture

This is just a test!

I just created a web survey in about 10 minutes at no cost. I pasted the questions from Lisa's post above...

(link...)

I tested it and the results were compiled automatically and immediately. Seems pretty straightforward. I'll share this with the Board and the search firm Tuesday to see if we can post it on the KCS website for any Knox County resident to use.

Seems like the surveymonkey website has some feature that prevents one person from responding more than once, which would be good. I'm sure there are other things that I haven't thought about. I can collect 1000 responses for free.

Your thoughts?

Pam Strickland's picture

I think there has to be

I think there has to be something other than real-time community meetings. I'm familiar with surveymonkey and it has worked well for my employer.

pgs
Pam Strickland

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut

Carole Borges's picture

Great idea Indya! Is there anyway to see the results?

They didn't show up automatically.

Indya's picture

survey

So far only 4 people responded, including myself. There is only one quality that all 4 people selected: "Ability to work cooperatively with the Board of Education". There was only one quality that 3 of 4 people selected: "Demonstrated ability to enhance student performance, especially in identifying and closing or narrowing the gaps in student achievement". Everything else was 50% or lower. Pretty tiny sample size though!

I can see the results since I'm the account holder, but would have to pay to share them with respondents via the survey monkey site.

I just asked this morning about posting this survey on the KCS website so it's more accessible and responses can be posted publicly too.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Survey

Indya,

Are you saying that it's ok to direct people to the site to take the survey? I'd like to post it at School Matters and to my email list if so. Thanks for taking action on this.

There is an interesting comment at the School Matters site from a parent questioning why they didn't receive more advance notice on the meeting so that more could attend. She says they received a take-home piece yesterday, but that they were informed about the jewelry sale weeks ago.

I know that there was a notice in the paper, but couldn't the parents have received a take-home piece sooner?

Lisa

Indya's picture

survey

Lisa,

I'd rather wait and encourage people to take a survey from the KCS site. I'll post here when I learn more about that. It may be a couple of days.

My daughter brought home a notice about the forums before Thanksgiving, so the shorter notice may have been an issue at some schools, but not others. Hopefully we can provide an on-line survey for those who could not attend in person.

Indya

Rachel's picture

I've used surveymonkey and

I've used surveymonkey and found it very helpful and reliable. I say go for it.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Sandra Clark's picture

Don't hire an idiot

I attended the Central meeting yesterday and plan to attend the Bearden meeting tonight.

At Central were: 23 people -- 2 consultants, 4 reporters, 3 candidates who "showed up 'cause they should," 3 employees of KCS, 1 recently retired administrator (Bobby Gratz), and 10 disgruntled citizens.

The happy people were at home, watching TV, and there are lots more happy people than disgruntled ones.

This whole recruitment process is flawed; skewed toward "change" and "non-political."

I just wrote at the bottom of my form: "Don't hire an idiot."

Fat chance. -- s.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Thanks Indya

Thanks for doing that - Web 2.0 is not that hard, and I think people DO care, even the happy ones. Make it easier for them to participate, and they will.

Lisa

Sylvia Middlebrook's picture

Biggest Challenge for new super from AE meeting attendee's

Good morning everybody,

I also attended the meeting last night at Austin East although few in numbers we brought what I believe to be the questions that so many parents would have asked had they been able to or choosen to attend the meeting. What I remember the biggest challenge being was more so that this individual has to be from a diverse up bringing, ready and willing to make immediate changes for ALL schools in order to develope equality of a learning opportunity for our children. Especially the schools that have the biggest academic challenges for their students, the schools that have the least amount of support from their community/parents and the schools that have proven to have the least amount of accountibility to the teachers and administration when they are wrong in their actions. It was also state this person would have to be strong enough to listener to everybody but make a decision for implementing diversity, regardless of the opposition they will face from those that don't want to see an equality of education for all school age children.

Carole Borges's picture

Sylva, I thought your comments and thoughts added a lot

Your willingness to speak out honestly and the intellect behind your comments really impressed me. I could see your children were impressed too. What a great role model you are!

Sylvia Middlebrook's picture

Pardon the spelling or gramar errors

I should have proof read !

scottfrith's picture

Donna Wright

I believe we should hire Donna Wright as School Superintendent. She a proven leader and administrator. She understands our system and, just as importantly, she understand our politics and the current political climate.

The last thing we need is another Charles Lindsey. I'm cynical of these national searches, yielding slick candidates, who tell us what we want to hear and then walk away a few years later with a hefty payday.

Donna cares about this community. I don't know her personally, but I believe she'd do a fine job.

(Of course, if we had an ELECTED superintendent, I could volunteer for a Donna Wright campaign, donate money, and put up yard signs. Elections are the best form of public involvement. Instead, with an appointed superintendent, now folks are asked to attend "community forums," with a handful of concerned or upset citizens -- and more than a few hacks -- providing the illusion of public participation.)

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Local Candidates

While on the one hand I do think there is probably someone local who would do a great job as superintendent, I am leery of just moving someone up from the existing school administration.

The reason is that I think we need someone who can effect a real change, and I believe someone who has spent a long time in the current administration isn't going to be a change agent. Maybe a local teacher or principal has what it takes, or someone who has both business and an educational background. But I think someone from the upper echelon of the current school administration is likely to give us more of the same, rather than rock the boat.

I don't have anything against Ms. Wright and I don't know her or any other local candidate personally. No doubt she has been doing a good job in her current position. Likely she does understand our system and our politics, but that's sort of what I'm afraid of.

We need some real change in our school system because we are failing our children in more ways than one. The dropout rate is increasing while test scores are falling. And I'm talking about the dumb-downed Tennessee tests, not even the national exams. Tennessee is near the bottom of the nation in almost every measurement of educational achievement.

We just went through a stressful rezoning process that ended up being more politically-driven than data-driven. The rezoning didn't really align feeder school patterns or accomplish much, except to make a bunch of people mad and move everybody around to fill a high school that was built in the wrong place because of politics.

Another round of rezonings is coming up - middle and elementary schools this time. And we have to address the restructuring at Austin East and problems with the other high schools that have failed to make adequate yearly progress under No Child Left Behind. Over half of our twelve high schools are being targeted because of their poor graduation rate. At least 30 of our middle and elementary schools are likely to be in trouble under NCLB next year because of lack of Adequate Yearly Progress.

These and other issues are going to be immediate challenges for our new superintendent. Add budgeting constraints, deterioriating school infrastructure, and political infighting on the school board and on county commission, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that we must have someone with a fresh approach, who has experience dealing with these problems and successfully solving them. Someone who knows what works in other parts of the country and has the leadership skills and the political savvy to make it happen here. We've been promised a "world-class" educational system, and we need a leader who can get us there.

Lord knows I don't agree with Mike Edwards on much, but I have to say he is right on when it comes to his comments about needing a dramatic improvement in our education system. Our economic future depends on it.

scottfrith's picture

"Dramatic improvement"

Are Knox County Schools better off today than we were before our last out-of-town, knight-in-shining-armor, Dr. Charles Lindsey, became Superintendent? Absolutely not. Will we be any better after we bring in the next hot-shot, high-profile, smooth-talking Superintendent? I doubt it.

Dramatic change in government requires a popular/electoral mandate. The executive must be accountable to the voters. Otherwise, the superintendent does not have to show results to the entire community, but instead to five (a majority) of his board members.

To achieve dramatic improvement in our Schools the state legislature must provide for counties to elect their superintendent of schools. Teachers and students shouldn't be the only folks held accountable. The School Administration must be held accountable, too.

Absent an election, I believe it an incredible waste of time and money to go out and find the next Charles Lindsey. Donna Wright would make a great Superintendent. She's local. I'm sure she understands what works (and doesn't work) system-wide. I only wish I could vote for our next superintendent and provide him/her the electoral mandate that I believe he/she needs to improve our schools.

Bottom line, my recommendations:

1. Don't go out-of-town when there are knowledgeable, well-qualified folks here.
2. If you're seeking dramatic change in a school system, it's going to take a popularly elected superintendent to have the mandate to institute that change.

Carole Borges's picture

Many fine superintendents weren't elected

Having an election doesn't change things. It usually (but not always)means the person with the most money or connections wins. Small cliques of people form in any community and can be quite biased about what the needs are, where a person from out of town is at least free enough in the beginning to try to take a holistic overview.

Local too often means I'll be doing business as usual, but I'll do it better. The school system here is such a disastor it will take a really talented and knowledgeable person to turn things around. Ms. Wright has obviously impressed you. I imagine she can apply for the job, so you should urge her to do so. I don't think being a local person would automatically eliminate her chances.

Local politics here tend to be so full of historical gripes, gaffs, and loyalties it might be hard for a local person to avoid all the controversy that seems to follow appointments. I don't know enough about professional search companies to come to a conclusion about their efficiency. Certainly the last one Knox County hired blew it with Lindsey. It would be hard to do worse.

scottfrith's picture

Elections

Elections DO change things. They provide an impetus for action. While I wouldn't characterize our school system as a disaster, we certainly have a long way to go and I believe that a good election, electing a strong Superintendent, would be a great start -- and if they do a bad job, we can vote 'em out.

Inevitably any superintendent, in any county or school system, will wade through murky, political waters to advance his or her agenda. An appointed, out-of-town Superintendent will invariably be far more accountable to the business interests (if they're supplementing salary, as has been suggested) or administration/political interests that gave him or her the job, more so than the everyday voter, parent, or student. The day that new Superintendent arrives in Knoxville he or she will be wined and dined by an unending who's-who of local developers, business leaders, and political hacks -- oh yeah, and there will also be a few token "community forums" (or maybe a "listening tour") to meet folks in the in Halls, Ritta, or Bonny Kate communities.

Who's more likely to be accountable to everyday folks? An out-of-town Superintendent, hired by a political school board, courted and dined by local big business; or, the candidate who has served as a teacher, principal, and administrator in this community, understands what works and what doesn't work, and will be prepared to move Knox County Schools forward from her first day on the job?

That's the reason I like Donna Wright. We've got great candidates here in Knox County. I just don't want to see Knox County make the same mistake twice, falling for the same song-and-dance, missing out on a Roy Mullins and getting stuck with another Dr. Charles Lindsey.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

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Lisa Starbuck's picture

Elected vs. Appointed

". . . missing out on a Roy Mullins and getting stuck with another Dr. Charles Lindsey."

I was present at the public input rezoning meeting where dozens of concerned citizens spoke to the board before the rezoning vote while Roy Mullins slept. Literally sat there nodding out. Or maybe he was just resting his eyes. One parent was so upset about it that he took photos of him sleeping. Evidently Mr. Mullins didn't feel like he even needed to attempt to appear interested in what was being said, perhaps because his votes were already lined up.

Not saying that Dr. Lindsey didn't have his own problems, but still. I know Mr. Mullins has his supporters here, but I haven't seen any evidence of greatness, either when I was a student at Halls High School while he was a principal, or anytime since. Go ahead and jump on me Bean, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

However, I think I have changed my mind about elected vs. appointed superintendents. I believe I have to agree that elected is better than appointed, although both methods are vulnerable to misuse by a determined politician.

scottfrith's picture

Roy Mullins

Lisa, we disagree about Roy Mullins, and I certainly wasn't at the meeting you attended so I can't speak to your experience with him, but my earlier point (in perhaps a better context) would be...

Let's not get all wrapped up in bringing in some big-talkin', out-of-town candidate, when we have an outstanding superintendent-to-be (cough... cough... Donna Wright) already in our system. In hindsight, I believe most would agree that it was a TERRIBLE mistake for the School Board to appoint Charles Lindsey over Roy Mullins. I don't care to relive that fight, but I also don't want to see the School Board make the same mistake again, either.

Think about it... What out-of-town candidate in their right mind would want to come here and risk their career/resume to get associated with this Knox County Government? I can only imagine a potential Superintendent candidate, sitting at his or her desk, getting information on our job opening, googling Knox County, reading our newspapers and thinking to himself/herself, "Why in the heck would I want to risk my career with those folks? They must be nuts!" Unless they're nearing the end of their career, and thinking of retiring near the Smokies, I believe the idea of recruiting some mythical, top-tiered, miracle-worker superintendent is a pipe dream at best and naive at worst. I expect more for Knox County Schools than some professional, superintendent-for-hire.

With that being said, I believe we have a tremendous opportunity, amid all the local political turmoil, to make great progress in this community and it begins with our schools and our new Superintendent. The stakes could hardly be higher.

SHarris's picture

Locals

My personal experience with Donna Wright precludes me from supporting her as Superintendent. However, I do believe we have some "locals" who would make great superintendents - Fred Nidiffer comes to mind, though I have no idea that he would even want the job. I think it should be made clear to the search firm that local candidates are very welcome.

KC's picture

They want public input

They want public input (ie-public forums), but not too much public input (ie-elections).

Land of the free, home of the Braves!

Sandra Clark's picture

Just returned from Bearden

We had another 20 folks -- 1 reporter (me); 1 consultant, Bill Newman; a couple of candidates (Elaine Davis (D) and William Daniels (R); some PTA folks and others still mad about rezoning. -- s.

KC's picture

While some seem to be implying...

that elections open the position to just any politician, I believe that Knox Co. voters would be mature and responsible enough to elect someone with educational knowledge and experience.

Besides, the appointment process is really just an election where nine people ( I think that's the number needed of school board members), as opposed to thousands, vote to elect the superintendent.

I would rather have a superintendent accountable to thousands of stakeholders, rather than just nine, in spite of the risks.

Carole Borges's picture

Maybe throw out the school board & put in parents?

This is the logical extension of what some people are saying. The constituents could then nurture and support those local teachers and administrators who gave them what they wanted.

But, would this make parents happy?

Bird_dog's picture

random musings

Unfortunately, elections don't guarantee the best candidate, e.g., Knox county commission, but neither does a national search.

Donna Wright was the new principal at West after Bearden was rezoned and she was fantastic! West became a very desirable school. We got many transfers from Webb! I think she would be in a unique position to effect immediate steps toward "great schools".

Donna Wright should be seriously considered and not dismissed because she is "local" - Kenny Chesney is local, too...

KC's picture

But, would this make parents

But, would this make parents happy?

It would at least give them a direct role in the process, whereas now, correct or not, a lot of parents and citizens concerned about education assume that the selection will be an inside deal. As it seems to be.

As the meeting leader pointed out, the comments and sentiments expressed at the public forum would make it to their report, but there were no guarantees that the school board would take any of the input into consideration.

Then why should citizens even bother with it?

Carole Borges's picture

You have a point there Gary...

Many parents are opting out of the school system because they don't feel they have any input. Are home-schoolers able to get out from under school board decisions? Just curious...

I did get the feeling that the info would definitely affect the search advertisement, and I think the school board will end up with candidates that match the profile Ray created as best as they can.

It would be so welcome if someone could come up with a way to make everyone on the same page---the Board, parents, teachers, and interested community members. There must be some cities that have accomplished this. I wonder where they are? And how they got there...

mbradley's picture

Separately, after an

Separately, after an extensive regional search, Maryville City Schools last night voted to promote from within to fill their superintendent opening........

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