Thu
Oct 22 2009
09:33 am
Gerry Holman: Website, KNS profile/video, Metro Pulse interview, League of Women Voters questionnaire, financial disclosures, ethics commission filing. Quote: "I am against wasteful spending. I want you, the citizens of Knoxville, to have the maximum benefits from city budgets while keeping your taxes as low as possible."
Brenda Palmer: KNS profile/video, Metro Pulse interview, League of Women Voters questionnaire, financial disclosures, ethics commission filing. Quote: "I have learned to work with groups that are polar opposites, to work together and bring an amenable solution."
UPDATE: Knox Heritage questionnaire
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Supporting Gerry Holman
District 3 – Gerry Holman
I have spent a great deal of time recently talking with Gerry over coffee, and each time I become more and more impressed with his ideas and his enthusiasm for Knoxville’s future. Gerry understands that the Knoxville area has the potential to become a national leader in emerging technology and business, such as Silicon Valley on the west coast and Research Triangle in the east (minus the negatives of uncontrolled growth). He is interested in working collaboratively with the County Commission, the Chamber of Commerce, Innovation Valley, ORNL, and the University of Tennessee to make it happen. As a former advertising executive, he has the experience and know-how to help promote our area. These concepts are very, very important to me, and I am excited to have a counterpart on Council who shares the same priorities.
Just as important, Gerry understands and appreciates the unique beauty and value of our natural resources. He supports the hard work that Joe Hultquist and Tony Norman have done with the Ridgetop and Hilllside Development Task Force, and he is concerned with the quality of our air and water. He will not promote business development at the expense of our area’s natural beauty; he understands it is a major factor in what makes our area so attractive to businesses that are looking for a place to grow. Like me, Gerry is interested in working with the local governments of surrounding counties to address air and water quality, as well as other regional issues.
Although Gerry has spent his career in business and advertising, he has a degree in Fine Arts. He understands the importance of the arts and culture organizations of our city. Gerry really sees the “big picture” of Knoxville, and recognizes that smart, sustainable growth, protection of our natural beauty, development of emerging technologies, support of our local entrepreneurs, and support of our arts community are all equally important in building and maintaining a city that is vital as well as successful!
I am very impressed with the way Gerry recognized issues in which he needed a little more knowledge, such as the Ten Year Plan to End Chronic Homelessness, and then went out and did his homework! It shows how willing he is to learn, his openness to new information and ideas, and how much effort he is willing to expend to “get it right.”
Perhaps most importantly, I believe that Gerry is a “team player,” willing to work with others to accomplish a goal. He treats others fairly, and I have been impressed with his character and honesty. I trust that he will do what he says he will do, and that he will encourage others to be the best they can be as well.
His website is: (link...).
A Question of Loyalty
Is a Democrat who supports a Republican really a Democrat? I’m what some might call a Yellow Dog Democrat. By that, I mean that I am fiercely loyal to the Democratic Party. Of course, I realize as well that other Democrats are sometimes less loyal to the Party. But in a county which is about 57% Republican to about 43% Democrat (insofar as actual voter allegiance is concerned), for Democrats to be successful, they have to receive the support of other Democrats.
Recent history shows us that a Republican can get elected in 7 of 9 districts in Knox County without a receiving a single Democratic vote. Not so for Democrats, who – for the most part – must rely upon Independents and moderate Republicans to get them over the top. So, while Democrats can afford not to be loyal to their Party every now and then, Knox County Democrats do not have such a luxury.
Knox County isn’t Cuyahoga County, Ohio or Cook County, Illinois, and Tennessee is not Massachusetts. Democrats in Knox County need to support other Democrats. The repercussions of our failure to do this is evidenced by the 2003 City Mayor’s race, when a few Knox County officeholders who happened to be Democrats openly endorsed Republican Bill Haslam over Democrat Madeline Rogero in the non-partisan race for Knoxville mayor. The race turned out to be much closer than many had first believed and the consensus opinion was that it may have cost Madeline the race.
Now, yet another Knox County Democrat officeholder – Amy Broyles – has decided to publicly endorse a Republican over a qualified, viable Democrat. Here we are, with very important races coming up next May, August and November, and just as Democrats who may be considering a run for office are poised to make their decisions, they are faced with the question of whether our Party and its elected officeholders will support them (as opposed to their Republican opponents).
It isn’t unreasonable for Democrats to expect Democrats they nominated to support Democratic candidates. This disloyalty promises to have a double effect. First, to those who support Amy, the endorsement will probably be the difference-maker. Therefore, the endorsement will undoubtedly cost the Democrat innumerable Democrat votes. Second, it demonstrates to Democrats considering races that we are not united and that you can’t even rely upon the support of your own Party’s elected officeholders.
As far as ideology goes, there will always be direct conflicts between the needs of certain more liberal or progressive Democrats and conservative or moderate Democrats. How do they reconcile these? Hopefully, a compromise is achieved. But you don’t promote liberal, moderate or conservative Democrat ideals by supporting Republicans. It just doesn’t make sense, does it?
Randy Nichols’ sin in 2003 was not his disagreement with the ideology of Madeline Rogero. It was supporting a Republican over a very qualified Democrat. Much like Joe Lieberman's sin was not his disagreement with most other Progressives on the Iraq War and other foreign policy issues, but his attack on fellow Democrats and support of Republicans. That, more than anything, is what made his actions inexcusable.
Ideological purity doesn't win elections. Loyalty and unity are what it takes. As Democrats, we will never agree with each other on every position, and that's okay. But we must have each other’s back if we expect to push our Democrat agenda forward. When push comes to shove, Democrats will only succeed here if we stand together. We all have our own unique mix of issues which are preeminent to us. But for us to succeed, everyone who champions Democrat causes needs to be willing to compromise on an overarching agenda for the Democratic Party as a whole. As Democrats, we can’t conveniently abandon the Party or its candidates whenever we want and expect no repercussions to result.
Finally, the reason such an endorsement matters is that the endorsement comes from an elected Democrat who was nominated by Democrats through a Democratic Primary. Personal animosity toward another Democrat should never result in an endorsement of a Republican over that Democrat. It disrespects the Democrats who nominated the elected Democrat. And it is shameful.
To the extent the reasons are based on “bipartisanship,” this is nonsense. If the Republican is elected, then perhaps “the spirit of bipartisanship” would be more persuasive, but why suffer bipartisanship if a qualified Democrat can be elected? You were, after all, nominated by Democrats, who scarcely had reason to believe you would abandon the Party . . . for spite or purely personal reasons.
Everyone of us is entitled to vote as we please, but this doesn’t mean that an elected Democrat should be permitted to go unquestioned when using their elected position as a means to support a Republican over a Democrat. If we are to make Knox County a place where a Democrat can win in any of our nine districts or county wide, we cannot do that if the Democrats we elect wind up turning their backs on qualified fellow Democrat candidates.
And furthermore
The City Council races are supposed to be non-partisan so I'm not even sure who is a Republican or Democrat but I do know there's only one woman running for a spot on City Council and she's qualified and smart and I'm disappointed one councilwoman didn't understand the advantages of supporting another woman on Council.
I really, really wish we
I really, really wish we could keep partisanship out of what are supposed to be non-partisan races.
I know it's always there under the surface, but I'd like for it to be as muted as possible.
And Treehouse - Broyles is County Commissioner, not a member of City Council.
I don't see the sense in
I don't see the sense in supporting a candidate based solely on gender or race. They need to be qualified first. Find a qualified candidate, then if they are a woman or a minority that's a plus. At least that's the way I see it.
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Race/gender don't even matter THAT much
In my book, "best person for the job" is "best person for the job" - period. Neither skin color nor genitalia are even remote indicators of ability or potential, and I never consider them as a result.
Really, how could pigmentation and/or gender even be considered as factors? What bearing does either have on a candidate's ability to do the public's bidding?
Really, how could
Really, how could pigmentation and/or gender even be considered as factors?
Gender equality is a legal concept, not a biological concept. Differences in gender obviously exist, and while they are not absolute or without exception, women tend to be better at collaboration, and they wield power differently than men. Pigmentation is a bit of an opposite. Biological equality is the reality, whereas legal or cultural equality is more elusive.
I like the idea of minority judges because I expect them to better understand and counteract injustice, and I think collaborative decision making (which, not "doing the public's bidding," is the core governmental process) yields better results when more women are involved. Given the current, though waning, imbalance toward white men in government, I look for opportunities to support other genders and cultures.
It's reasonable to consider race and gender when choosing candidates as long as you temper those expectations with the realization that specific individuals can fall far from the norms. It is quite possible given two individuals of different race or gender that the white man could be fairer-minded or a better team member and communicator, so you have to assess the individual first. Given comparable qualifications, however, secondary traits like group membership do matter.
I have no idea who Herculine
I have no idea who Herculine Barbin is. Is an identifactory where they make credit cards?
Credit Cards: Mystifying
Credit Cards: Mystifying response.
Try reading it like a 7-year-old wrote it. Do you actually believe bringing up gender phenotypes is anything but mystifying in a thread about Knoxville City Council?
Your egghead name dropping
Your egghead name dropping communicates little to nothing to those who do not spend their days knee-deep in academic journals. Brian said that race and gender should have no bearing on anyone's voting decisions, which strikes me as "I don't see race but people tell me I'm white" nonsense. Whatever beef you have with what I said remains obscure to me, perhaps as obscure as my stupid factory pun was to you.
Actually, Brian used
Actually, Brian used "pigmentation" as a stand-in for race, and I tried to point out that racial differences are more cultural, with the biological differences adding up to nothing. I contrasted that to gender, where the biological differences are real. Either way, the idea that we should all be equal under the law does not mean we have to pretend everyone is some androgynous shade of tan.
My beef is that you use race
My beef is that you use race as a biological term. It is ignorant.
Actually, that didn't happen. You are off your game. Spending too much time with Andy A.?
Shocking news, you state things as authoritative when they are merely your opinion. The egghead charge is valid.
Undecided
Unfortunately, I haven't decided whom to vote for in this particular race. I can't say I'm excited about either candidate. I did notice recently that Mr. Holman's campaign had flooded areas of right-of-way with campaign signs. Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't that illegal under present city ordinance? I agree with several of the other posts as far as partisanship and race and gender are concerned. I wouldn't allow such things to influence my vote.
Holman
Unfortunately, I have also seen Holman signs in right-of-ways, tied to Stop signs, and telephone polls. All of which are illegal under the City of Knoxville ordinance. I sincerely believe that if a candidate breaks the law while running for office, that he will do it while in office. Because of this, I will be voting for Brenda Palmer.
So which is worse, putting
So which is worse, putting signs in the median or operating a PAC from you home address?
(link...)
Betty, I presume you are
Betty, I presume you are talking about the ~$2200 in-kind contribution from "Democratic Centerists(sic) for Victory." I'm not sure what's nefarious about that. I would guess that it's time she or her husband spent on the campaign, though I don't know why either would need to disclose such efforts. What are the rules on in-kind contributions, and what do you think is going on with this?
Whatever the nature of that
Whatever the nature of that contribution, it was rejected on her next disclosure. Not sure what to make of that either, presumably something her husband wanted to do that she nixed.
To Ms. Bean
Yikes!! I might have to just not vote at all in the 3rd District. That isn't good, like I said, if you break the law while running for office you will probably do it while in office.
Btw, you sure are on top of things Ms. Bean.
Btw
If you have been to a recent forum with both of them, Mrs. Palmer has been extremely contentious with Holman. I think Holman has a been a very lazy campaigner by all accounts. All in all, I am just not sure either one of them are very good candidates.
Long History
Knox Rebel knows elected Knox Co Dems have a long proud history of supporting the GOP candidates in non-partisan and some partisan races, long before Amy supported Gerry. While I dislike the huge organized effort they used when supporting Haslam, an occassional supporting of a Republican or independent candidate is fine. After the ordeal with term limits in 2006 and various other fiascos with the Party, I no longer wanted it on paper that I was required to support the local parties bi-laws or candidates or attend meetings. I hate the yellow dog attitude where some local Party members give up their right to vote if its only to GOP candidates in the race or a non-partisan candidate they think is Republican, all this over keeping some ward chair seat. I dislike any political party more and more. Sometimes the one with the D by their name is not a good candidate.