Rachel's picture

I'd prefer the test case not

I'd prefer the test case not be Drudge....

But - publishing a link and a short excerpt violates Fair Use? Doesn't AP want people to go to their site to read the whole story? How the heck are people even supposed to know there's something posted at the AP site they want to read?

Oh wait, we're all supposed to visit the AP website several times a day just to check. Uh huh.

Rachel's picture

Don't talk to me like I'm a

Don't talk to me like I'm a child. There's stuff I don't completely understand (copyright law being one of them), but that doesn't make me simpleminded.

Short excerpt must be acknowledge as sourced from the article.

Uh, yeah. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

I know it seems stupid, but you understand this, Rachel, from your grad school days.

Clearly, I must be stupid because I don't understand what AP wants here. Are they saying that a blogger can't link to something on the AP site without explicitly stating the info came from AP? That's one thing.

Or are they saying that, for example, Randy can't link to Atrios whos's linked to TPM who's linked to the NYTimes who got a story from AP without explicitly acknowledging AP as the original source?

Because, frankly, the latter would pretty much kill the internet.

R. Neal's picture

It's not Drudge Report, it's

It's not Drudge Report, it's Drudge "Retort", a fine liberal antidote.

But yeah, I'm sure bloggers don't drive ANY traffic to AP content with their links and excerpts.

Rachel's picture

Oops, sorry. I should never

Oops, sorry. I should never try to read stuff late at night after more than one glass of wine.

R. Neal's picture

This reminds me. Have you

This reminds me. Have you ever checked out the Knoxville News Sentinel's iCopyright excerpt terms? 50 cents a word:

(link...)

Hell, I'd write for them all day long for half that. They could mark it up 100% and we'd both make a killing!

R. Neal's picture

Another high profile blogger

Another high profile blogger says in an offilne e-mail list that he got a similar C&D from Reuters last week.

R. Neal's picture

AP boycott

Bloggers are organizing an AP content boycott:

(link...)

Mello's picture

I have a question

On a local level we see many stories written by the local papers picked up by the AP a couple of days later. Does the AP then pay the local for that story? Just how does that work?

R. Neal's picture

My understanding is that a

My understanding is that a local paper's agreement with AP gives AP rights to the local paper's content.

Mello's picture

You know the stories I am

You know the stories I am talking about. These past 10 months have been nothing if not interesting to see how a story that was written by a local reporter moves first to the blogs then is picked up town by town via the AP. Yes, I fully believe at least two of our local stories would never have been printed in the dailies from Nashville to San Diego if not for the blogs local to those towns first covering it.

The stories the AP really seems to be protecting are their own original content and not the stories they have picked up from the multitude of dailies, correct?

R. Neal's picture

Yes, and they also pick up

Yes, and they also pick up original reporting from blogs, rewrite it, and sell it on the wires as their own without attributing the original source. I've had it happen to me (the bogus Corker crime statistics story, for one).

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