Tue
Aug 14 2007
09:41 pm
By: Mark Harmon
I went to tonight's session at West High School presenting a summary of the Baker Center report, and seeking comments from attendees.
I thought it might be useful to seek comments from the web-savvy users of KnoxViews regarding county government websites. Knox County's site is here ((link...)).
The "cohort" counties frequently used for comparison in the Baker Center report are as follows:
Anne Arundel County, Maryland ((link...))
Baltimore County, Maryland ((link...))
Chesterfield County, Virginia ((link...))
Cobb County, Georgia ((link...))
East Baton Rouge Parish, La. ((link...))
Fayette/Lexington, Kentucky ((link...))
Polk County, Florida ((link...))
Richland County, South Carolina ((link...))
Sarasota County, Florida ((link...))
--Mark Harmon
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Comparison
What's being assessed? Layout? Content? Online services offered?
Brian A.
I'd rather be cycling.
It's about the concept of
It's about the concept of E-Government:
Ease of access to information; ability to do government business on line (licenses, fees); agendas & minutes of meetings; webcasts of meetings; webcast archives; opportunity to participate in government by joining advisory boards; details of resolutions and budgets; citizen opinion surveys/feedback.
Also note the number of elected officials and whether they are elected by their district or the county at-large.
They all look like they copied one another.
Boring, but efficient. Like looking at a table full of businessmen all dressed alike. I liked ours a bit more than the others. Richland County's was the ugliest. I like our color, the well written drop-down menus, the mixture of neighborhood events and news along with the legislative stuff. I've used our site many times, even before I moved here to research what my new environment would be like, and I found it very easy to navigate, inclusive, and informative.
I felt after examining them all that it would have been more inviting if each one had a large picture of a city street or country shot, to show visitors to the site what kind of place it is. Some of the sites used the small non-descript banners across the top to give a peek of the landscape or a city view. That wasn't very appeaking.
I agree that both the
I agree that both the Knoxville and Knox county websites look similar but I see it as more of an advantage than disadvantage. I've used each website many times and found that both were very resourceful. Got no complaints from me.
Adrift in the Sea of Humility
I assume by far the lions
I assume by far the lions share of traffic to the Knox County website is
looking for something specific. A question answered, some particular service,
etc.
The current homepage has too many news items most people that come to site wont care about. PR stuff is a part of your web content, but should not dominate your front page. Unless its your news page. Plus your news is mostly fluff news, Instead of someone can take this and do something
with it, type news.
When you organize your desk or a room, do you put family photos at the front of your desk, in front of your drawers, stapler, computer keyboard?
Then you have to rech around the photos, etc to get to tools you use all
the time?
To me you have wasted 90% of the space on the page on basically nothing.
So now most all of your users when they come to page, they are thinking
'You are going to make me hunt for it arent you?' You also have
required too much scrolling.
The prominent search box is good. If your content is optimized that is a huge
plus for your users. Probably the most powerful navigational tool
for a large, site with diveergent content. Usually I just type what I
am looking for in a search box and do not fool with drop down menus.
I would lose the drop down menus.
What sort of header is 'Links?' A good A-Z index page is typically
pretty useful. Now there is too much work, aside from the search box,
for anyone that comes to the page.
Some of other counties have websites look obviously built by a
committee. They just put way too much on the front page. They
are trying to simplify navigation, and maybe appease everyone on a committee, but they are actually complicating it for users.
Let your users build the site over time with search queries, web statistics,
emails. They will explicitly, and implicitly, tell you for what they are
looking.
The site is pretty, but that wears off quickly when you are trying to use
the thing. I suggest desiging it to be fully functional before you put a single
graphic on it. So a graphic designer is the last person in the process that puts
their hands on building the site.
Look at MIT website. People are looking for services and specific functions.
They throw in some news type content but it doesnt consume the whole page.
Most people will not read huge amounts of that stuff anyway. But with
a quick short list like MIT has people that do not normally read your
news items will glance thru it because it is so short.
(link...)
A good website is making it as easy as possible for users to find that for which they are looking.
Doesnt a government site have to pass American Disabilities Act accessibilty
requirements?
The prominent search box is
The prominent search box is good. If your content is optimized that is a huge plus for your users. Probably the most powerful navigational tool or a large, site with diveergent content. Usually I just type what I am looking for in a search box and do not fool with drop down menus.
I would lose the drop down menus.
Only if it works and this morning I'm not having much luck searching for the county charter. Tried it the hard way first by clicking through the menus and never did find it. Could be because the coffee is in the kitchen and I'm at my computer. Has anyone found the charter online?
Otherwise, excellent comments jbr.
The one good thing about being pessimistic is - at least it shows you understand the situation. -- Unknown
"Only if it works..."Thats
"Only if it works..."
Thats true, that is why I said....
"If your content is optimized..."
As in search engine optimization so whatever search engine you are using can accurately rank your pages for relevance to whatever query terms you may enter. If the web content itsnt optimized and indexed regularly then the search engine will be as frustrating a waste of time as any other inefficiently
implemented navigational tool.
I frequently use Google to search land never even look at their homepage once I know their domain. Home pages are frequently just almost unusable.
You can type
site:knoxcounty.org somesearchterm
Ideally if the entity is large enough, like a county, they have a good intranet search tool and can give you even more accurate results.
After just a quick look at
After just a quick look at each site, here are some observations.
Most sites offer the same basic type of information and services. As noted above, some present it better than others, and some are easier to navigate than others.
Some things that caught my eye and that distinguish some of the sites from Knox County's are:
• Prominent links to local ordinances, codes, regulations, etc.
• Easy to search property records with essential info presented in an understandable format
• Up to date, easy to find meeting agendas and minutes
• Public access TV schedules for meetings, and live streaming of broadcasts on some websites
Couple more things...
Couple more things.
• A few of the sites have a "most viewed/requested pages/links" feature on the front page. This is a nice, useful feature.
• Way too much use of PDF format documents on most every website.
Another interesting quick
Another interesting quick survey re. visible links to election/voting info on the front page:
• Ann Arundel: none
• Baltimore: permanetn link to election info page
• Chesterfield: temporary news item about results of recent primary
• Cobb: none
• Baton Rouge: temporary news item about voter registration drive
• Lexington: none
• Polk: none
• Richland: none
• Sarasota: permanent link to election info page
• Knox: none
So only two websites had permanent links to election/voter info on the front page. None had a direct, permanent, visible link to voter registration info.
Great observation R. Neal...
Voter info should definitely be there.
OK, one last observation
One other observation about Knox County's website: It's more like a campaign flyer or PR page about Mayor Ragsdale than about Knox County.
Not one of the other websites features as much info about the county mayor/executive or as prominently.
Only if it works..." Thats
Only if it works..."
Thats true, that is why I said....
"If your content is optimized..."
My comment had nothing to do with whether the search function is optimized or not. If you can't enter a search term, a prominent search box does little good.
Thanks for the tip on Google. The problem, however, is that when I'd like to look at the county charter, I don't want to sort through every news article or blog entry relating to the charter nor do I want to know who has a charter.net email address.
I'm not taking issue with you personally. I'd simply like to be able to find information about the county charter and the ethics committee online without hassle.
I came across 'snippy' a
I came across 'snippy' a friend of mine tells me. I typed that hurriedly and the tone of the blog entry was unintended. Apologies.