Fri
Mar 21 2008
06:56 am
Clinton rising in the polls
By: bizgrrl

In Pennsylvania,

Clinton now leads Barack Obama 51 percent to 35 percent among likely Democratic primary voters, according to the Franklin and Marshall College Poll.

In West Virginia,

Clinton attracts 55% of the Likely Democratic Primary Voters while Obama is supported by 27%.

Overall, in

The March 14-18 national survey of 1,209 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters gave Clinton, a New York senator, a 49 percent to 42 percent edge over Obama, an Illinois senator.

Next.

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Factchecker's picture

OK, then

Submitted by Factchecker on Fri, 2008/03/21 - 10:25am.

There's still the party's nomination process. Here and here are two Slate articles that put Hillary's chances as much slimmer.

And now that he's endorsed Obama, the possibility that Richardson could share the ticket is raised and would solidify strength in the Hispanic vote where Hillary has been strong. They'd make a great team for office too!

gonzone's picture

Corollary

Submitted by gonzone on Fri, 2008/03/21 - 2:25pm.

McCain's rising in the polls at the same time. Reckon it's got anything to do with Penn's "kitchen sink" strategy of attacking Obama? Looks like the entire party suffers at the expense of her rising in the polls.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson

Bbeanster's picture

A Pyrrhic victory (IPA:

Submitted by Bbeanster on Fri, 2008/03/21 - 2:57pm.

A Pyrrhic victory (IPA: /ˈpɪrɪk/) is a victory with devastating cost to the victor. The phrase is an allusion to King Pyrrhus of Epirus, whose army suffered irreplaceable casualties in defeating the Romans at Heraclea in 280 BC and Asculum in 279 BC during the Pyrrhic War. After the latter battle, Plutarch relates in a report by Dionysius:
The armies separated; and, it is said, Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him joy of his victory that one more such victory would utterly undo him. For he had lost a great part of the forces he brought with him, and almost all his particular friends and principal commanders; there were no others there to make recruits, and he found the confederates in Italy backward. On the other hand, as from a fountain continually flowing out of the city, the Roman camp was quickly and plentifully filled up with fresh men, not at all abating in courage for the loss they sustained, but even from their very anger gaining new force and resolution to go on with the war.[1]

Hill-arious's picture

It's over.

Submitted by Hill-arious (not verified) on Sat, 2008/03/22 - 2:19am.

These polls are meaningless, people need to break free of their self imposed delusions, and accept the fact that Hillary Clinton WILL NOT BE the Democratic candidate for President.

The Clinton Campaign is in the Red and Obama is still, in spite of the Swift Boating about his preacher, out raising her. Even in Penn.
LINKY DINK

bill young's picture

whats next?

Submitted by bill young on Sat, 2008/03/22 - 4:13pm.

We have not had a campaign for the Democratic nomination like this one in 36 years.

Since then our society has devoloped a "need for information speed" & an unquenchable thirst for right now answers.

Added to that,we have this 6 week break between primaries.

In this lull we are going from the sublime to the ridiculous trying to solve the puzzle of who will win.

The truth is..there is no divining rod to figure out how this thing plays out.

Like Yogi Berra said "It ain't over till it's over."

I'm hoping when it's over Obama wins.

Of the primaries that are left..a little blast from the past.

Pennsylvania-'80..Ted Kennedy wins.

North Carolina & Kentucky-'88..Al wins both.

Indiana-'64..Wallace strong;'68..RFK wins.

West Virginia-'60..JFK wins.

Oregon-'68..McCarthy wins;'76..Brown's write-in.

SteveMule's picture

I get you r point but ...

Submitted by SteveMule on Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:59pm.

Bill,
I get your point but ... and this is the big BUT there's no way Hillary can catch up to Obama. Even she wins big in ALL the contests still to come. She needs to put a fork in it - it's done.

Take Care, Be Good and don't play in the street!

SteveMule

bill young's picture

BUT

Submitted by bill young on Sat, 2008/03/22 - 8:10pm.

How many delegates are still up?

There are 566 in contest yet to come.

Have to wait till they count the votes to know
who gets how many.

Then we got the Supers & Fla/Mich to deal with.

Around 330 super delegates are up in the air.

And between 0 & 366 delegates in Fla/Mich are
in no mans land.

Thats 696 delegates we got no clue about.

Plus,until something gives in Fla/Mich

we have no idea how many delegates it will take to win.

I take that back..we know its somewhere between 2,025 & 2,209.

It wont be over till its over.

And it aint over.

SteveMule's picture

Ckinton Myth

Submitted by SteveMule on Sat, 2008/03/22 - 8:20pm.

One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.

Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party’s most reliable constituency.

Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote — which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle — and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, ...

Read the rest here: (link...)
They pretty sum it up. It's over even if no one wants to admit it.

Take Care, Be Good and don't play in the street!

SteveMule

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