Sun
Feb 9 2014
10:31 am
In case you missed it, Commissioner Amy Broyles is drafting an ordinance that would prohibit retaliation against any county employees, including teachers, who speak out for or against an elected official.
According to a WBIR report, Commissioner Broyles said the ordinance is intended to protect employees during the upcoming election season, but is also prompted by her talks with teachers who say they are "afraid of bad evaluations, or being fired or transferred" for speaking out at public meetings.
WBIR report: Broyles: Let employees speak for, against elected leaders
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Lawyers please
How does this differ from 1st amendment free speech protection
I was wondering the same
(in reply to Mike Knapp)
I was wondering the same thing. Apparently, it's complicated:
Balancing Act: Public Employees and Free Speech
Not so much for private company employees, who have fewer protections.
And for teachers there's the
And for teachers there's the chilling effect of weakening or eliminating due process and tenure.
Retention issue/thanks for doc
(in reply to R. Neal)
Retention issue cuts a few ways. One slice - how many teachers and administrators have been moved inside the county, forced or of their own will out of the county, fired and disciplined due to free speech retaliation and related issues?
Anxious to read that 1st amendment center doc, looks like a good place to start. Thanks for the link.
Retaliation will be hard to prove
KCS won't outright fire any of the teachers who have been speaking up as of late. They will move principals around who will slowly lower their evaluation scores, stack their classes with low performing kids to affect test scores, or provide "good reasons" for administrative transfers. In the end, they will be able to take teachers in good, if not excellent, standing and dismiss them as substandard teachers in 2-3 years.
I hope this resolution will have some teeth behind it to close the loopholes. The teachers involved are aware this could happen, and still they speak. If they were lazy, unprofessional liars who just wanted to stir up trouble, they would have quit spending their evenings at school board meetings long before now.
Wording...
(in reply to TNchickadee)
The proposed ordinance would also cover:
"[those]..harassed, demoted, or receive a negative evaluation.."
It may be difficult to prove at times, but if someone's multi-year contract could be terminated if it is proved... well, then we have a particular disincentive against that kind of behavior that we don't have right now.
Thanks Amy.......We must protect our teachers
Thanks Amy...We must protect our teachers(and all public employees)from retaliation and retribution for telling their truth. I remember how Tony Norman spoke of the retaliation visited upon him while still teaching, and how this hastened his retirement. Isn't that why we employ our teachers? These professionals show our children the truth as they know it.Then they empower, inspire, and challenge our children to find their own truth.It is no accident that the Harvard motto is Veritas... Having said this, it really bothers me when I hear reported that a school board member(and former chair) Karen Carson spoke in a disparaging manner about one of our teachers, Mark Taylor, who has spoken out consistently and courageously about his problems with the loathsome TVAAS virus in Knox County .First, she implied MrTaylor was sloppy and misinformed.Next, she said she had spoken to several of his peers(about 11 teachers I think) that taught the same subjects and that they did not think highly of him and would not highly rate him.Lastly, she indicated that Mark had not been completely truthful in his presentations. She even implied he had actively deceived.Is the strategy is to ignore the important content and then try to impeach the character of a teacher?If any of this report is even partly accurate, then I guess we won't have to wait for retaliation and intimidation.It is already here....Shame.
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(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
I do not know Mark Taylor but what he told us at Fulton High during TEA's The Trouble with TVAAS program is that for the first year in which he earned a 1 on his evaluation, his TVAAS score did not reflect any data relating to four of the six classes he taught, because those four classes were 9th grade science classes being delivered to 8th grade students and no standardized test was available with which to measure his students' growth.
If that's true, he was wronged, irrespective of what his peers may or may not have said about him.
And if Karen really did go around asking his peers their opinions of him, she wronged him, too.
I do hope she confined her any inquiry of his performance to information other than the anecdotal.
Karen Carson spoke in a
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
I believe Karen reads this board, and posts occasionally. Maybe she will respond to this. I sure hope it's not true.
it is true
(in reply to Bbeanster)
Betty, Karen Carson said that at the Commission/School Board retreat. As nice as possible she said Mark lied. It was sickening.
Slander via innuendo?
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
"Next, she said she had spoken to several of his peers(about 11 teachers I think) that taught the same subjects and that they did not think highly of him and would not highly rate him.Lastly, she indicated that Mark had not been completely truthful in his presentations. She even implied he had actively deceived."
That should earn Karen Carson an Ethics Violation. Is this what they teach at the Broad Academy?
Yes, let's protect our teachers
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
Amy, This is such an important ordinance. THANK YOU. Should you get an opinion from the State Attorney General so that no bad actors try to delay this measure? And also will you join with all of us to go in front of the school board to pass the same?
Politics is a game for big boys in these here parts
There's a reason there are so many anonymous posters and so few speaking up about what's wrong, and it goes far beyond apathy.
Fear drives politics here.
Tristis tamen verus Bobber
(in reply to fischbobber)
......"Tristis tamen verus Bobber"...Sad but true Bobber
It is not Knox County that
(in reply to fischbobber)
It is not Knox County that needs the Broyles' resolution it is the School Board. Teachers are being threatened and bullied. Can the Broyles' resolution protect teachers? Or is the KCS a separate entity?
School Board
(in reply to Last Year)
If you think this sort of stuff doesn't go beyond the school board, you're really not paying attention.
Paying attention? At the
(in reply to fischbobber)
Paying attention?
At the retreat this weekend Karen Carson would roll her eyes when Tony Norman would speak. It was so bad Tony moved to catch her doing it.
shame
(in reply to Last Year)
Teachers have asked the School Board and Dr. McIntyre for protection from intimidation. This request has been made by many teachers in public forum in the past few months. Including Mark Taylor.
To date, the School Board and Dr. McIntyre are silent on this issue.
So now we learn that not only will they not protect teachers, School Board members like Karen Carson slander teachers with hearsay and disrespect County Commission members?
Norman & Brown announce meeting
County Commissioners Norman and Brown have announced that they will meet on Friday, February 14, 2014 at 10:00 am in the commission conference room of City County Building.The purpose is to discuss a recap of the joint BOE/ Commission Retreat.Several commissioners may be in attendance, so minutes may be taken. I hope several members of BOE will be present to continue the dialogue that so many have called for and praised in the Joint Retreat. The spirit of dialogue and co-operation is not limited to out of county get- aways. No votes will be taken.The press and public are welcome.I feel sure that the protection of our teacher's first amendment rights will be discussed in this meeting.
I hope Amy's resolution will define and strengthen this protection.If, however, the BOE says that it is an illicit commission overreach into BOE business, then I hope our elected commission leadership will call on the BOE to honor it's own Civility Code (Knox County Schools Civility Code)..
.....such that....
...."The Board does not condone a lack of civility by anyone, and recognizes the following appropriate administrative avenues for aggrieved parties to seek action or redress.
"3. An employee who believes that he or she has not been treated in a manner reflective of the Code of Civility should address the concern through the appropriate supervisory chain. If personal harm is threatened, the employee shall notify their supervisor and may also contact law enforcement. If a communication such as voice mail or e-mail or any type of written communication is demeaning, abusive, threatening or obscene the employee is not obligated to respond."
If that is not forthcoming, then I expect the Knox County Board of Education,acting in good faith, to utilize the Knox County Board of Education.Code of Ethics...
.....such that....
...."The School District Ethics Committee(is) to investigate any credible complaint against an official or employee charging any violation of this Code of Ethics, or may undertake an investigation on its own initiative when it acquires information indicating a possible violation, and make recommendations for action to end or seek retribution for any activity that, in the Committee's judgment, constitutes a violation of this Code of Ethics. If a member of the Committee is the subject of a complaint, such member shall recuse himself or herself from all proceedings involving such complaint. "
We have a mechanism and a process of redress in the the guidelines of the BOE...Now we only need the resolve to pursue a fair and just resolution.We can and must protect the first amendment rights of our teachers . No person acting in good faith would deny the absolute responsibility to protect the free expression of our hard working teachers.Let us begin to do this together.
Employees
This is not limited to schools. It impacts a lot of public employees. Private, too...but I don't think that is the bailiwick of Commission.
While in my government experience it was always more the belief they would be punished as opposed to actually being punished, the result is still the same.
So anything that can help people secure if speaking up is a good thing if responsibly drafted.
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(in reply to Mike Cohen)
"This is not limited to schools."
How does it apply to the Knox County School system? They have their own HR department. KCS is not under Knox County HR, are they? You used to work for the KCS. How can the Broyles resolution affect KCS? Doesn't state law prohibit that?
I support what Amy is trying to do to protect teachers and it is a great idea and is needed. I don't see how it works.
KCS should do this on there own. Why haven't they already?
Law Department
(in reply to Knox Observer)
I specifically requested the Law Department to craft this ordinance so that it covers ALL Knox County employees, not just those under the Administrative and Legislative jurisdictions. It applies to everyone - even the Schools and independently elected officials.
I was at the retreat, and I disagree with how Karen Carson's comments are being characterized. She did not disparage anyone. In an effort to investigate the teacher's concerns, she researched how other teachers in Knox County, who were teaching the same classes and in the same situation, were evaluated. She reported her findings to the rest of us, because we had expressed concern over what we had heard at our last Commission meeting. There was no judgement made, and no disparagement.
Yes, let's protect our teachers!
(in reply to amybroyles)
Amy, This is such an important ordinance. THANK YOU. Should you get an opinion from the State Attorney General so that no bad actors try to delay this measure? And also will you join with all of us to go in front of the school board to pass the same?
I'll check
(in reply to mwester37922)
I'll check with the Law Department, but they are pretty darn good at covering all the bases. Also, I haven't yet heard of any opposition; in fact, everyone has been very supportive. If the Commission passes this, there will be no need for the BOE to pass something similar, as they will be covered by this.
I'll check
(in reply to mwester37922)
I'll check with the Law Department, but they are pretty darn good at covering all the bases. Also, I haven't yet heard of any opposition; in fact, everyone has been very supportive. If the Commission passes this, there will be no need for the BOE to pass something similar, as they will be covered by this.
Ordinance
(in reply to Knox Observer)
"KCS should do this on there own. Why haven't they already?"
The BOE cannot enact Ordinances. Only the Commission can do that.
I should have said this sooner
(in reply to amybroyles)
I appreciate all the positive comments regarding this proposed ordinance, but they should be directed at Steve Drevik - it was his idea!
Thanks for the nod!
(in reply to amybroyles)
.. but maybe too early? Maybe now people will vote against it, now that they know? :)
I wondered about a catchy name:
"Freedom to Speak Ordinance"?
"Simplicity is the law of nature for men as well as for flowers.
(in reply to amybroyles)
Thanks Steve and Amy..This work is important...
Let us clarity. and remember what Thoreau said,
..."Simplicity is the law of nature for men as well as for flowers." ...
(1)Neither of you have yet gotten confirmation from the law director by official opinion on the propriety and/or efficacy of the proposed ordinance as binding on..." everyone - even the Schools and independently elected officials".
(2)And if you have the above,there is nothing stopping another party from going to the state attorney general to obtain an opinion to block or even filing suit to block this intervention of County Commission into BOE or county offices personnel affairs and policy.
(3)The BOE may decide that Commission should mind it's own business as an act of personal privilege for their autonomy. I know you have not deliberated on this with BOE or County Commission and don't presume to count votes.You said, "I haven't yet heard of any opposition; in fact, everyone has been very supportive." Who have you been getting support from ?
(4)The BOE already has it's own HR codes, Civility Code, Ethics Code,and Ethics Committee and has employee protection statements in all .They have the mechanisms and undisputed legal authority to act now.
(5)All the questions above could be obviated by asking the BOE to propose and then enforce their own "Freedom to Speak and Be Free from Retaliation Guideline" ,as Steve calls it, parallel to your ordinance as an act of solidarity.This regulation and personnel freedom of speech guarantee would be immune to the challenges above.We would not have to wait time for any malefactor shoes to drop as the school year and budget time grind on.Surely, there are many on BOE eager to step up and take the lead to do their part to simplify,shorten and insure this process.
I love Thoreau!
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
Good questions and comments - thanks!
1. I had gotten confirmation from the law director by official opinion on the propriety and/or efficacy of the proposed ordinance as binding on..." everyone - even the Schools and independently elected officials".
2. The State Attorney General's opinion is just that - an opinion, not a ruling - those have to come from a court. An unfavorable opinion could have a chilling effect (or not) on the vote, but it couldn't block it. Another group certainly could file suit - after it has been enacted - but I think it would be highly unlikely, and unpopular. As well as expensive. But I'll be happy to ask the Law Department if they think asking for an opinion from the AG would be a good idea.
3. I have not spoken to any other Commissioner, or any BOE Member with whom I serve on the Joint Education Committee - that would violate the Sunshine Law. However, I gave the Superintendent, other BOE members, and other elected officials a head's up before it appeared in the media, and there was no opposition. The remarks in the media have been very positive, even from Mayor Burchett. There has been a lot of support from the public as well. Additionally, I have made it very clear I am not singling out the BOE - if I were, they might indeed feel the Commission was using a heavy hand.
4. Knox County and the Commission also already have their own HR codes, Ethics Code, and Ethics Committee, and have employee protection statements in all. The difference is this is an Ordinance and will become part of the County Code - something only the Commission can do. There are legal differences and implications between County Ordinances and County and BOE Policy.
5. Again, the Commission can enact ordinances, the BOE sets policy. The BOE, in my opinion, already has those things covered in their existing policies.
6. Someone in an earlier post asked why we need this ordinance, as employees are already protected by Federal Laws. The best reason is because any employee who feels they have been wronged have to file in Federal Court. This brings it much closer to home.
I appreciate everyone's concern for the free speech of ALL our county employees.
My favorite Thoreau quote: "Everyone must believe in something. I believe I'll go canoeing."
Thanks again ,Amy and Steve
(in reply to amybroyles)
Thanks again ,Amy and Steve...but I still call for clarification and simplicity
....."However, I gave the Superintendent, other BOE members, and other elected officials a head's up before it appeared in the media, and there was no opposition. "
Who were the other elected officials?County Commission?
Does giving a heads up and checking for approvals seem to be deliberations?Let us air this out and prevent the RWNJ / baggers from demeaning this important effort.
"5. Again, the Commission can enact ordinances, the BOE sets policy. The BOE, in my opinion, already has those things covered in their existing policies."
I agree that the BOE has the mechanisms in place to make their own statement reaffirming teachers freedom of speech and freedom from retaliation .Many teachers would welcome this action.It would be a act of healing.Why has BOE not acted already?Even if only symbolic,that would be the most powerful act of solidarity and support and would certainly remove any objection from Commission....Also, it would just reassure many tired , scared teachers who feel beaten down at this time. Amy , I know you hear them and sympathize with them.I know you and Steve care.
"Self-Reliance” (1841)
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
Amy, I know you have already addressed the issues on potential Sunshine violations here , but I was trying to put myself in the mind of the RWNJs...Ouch, that was too small..It hurts.
I did want to share one of my Thoreau favorites:
.....“Insist on yourself; never imitate. Your own gift you can present every moment with the cumulative force of a whole life’s cultivation; but of the adopted talent of another, you have only an extemporaneous, half possession.” ... "Self-Reliance" (1841)
Thanks
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
However, I do want to clarify again that I have not discussed this with anyone I am prevented from discussing it with, due to the Sunshine Law - that includes the other Commissioners, members of the Audit Committee, and members of the Joint Committee on Education.
I also want to point out there is a difference between giving a head's up and asking for approval. I did the former, out of professional courtesy. The Law Department ran it past the Mayor for me, and I spoke directly with Sheriff Jones, as his department has the largest number of employees after the school system. I expect to speak to the other elected officials prior to Monday's Commission Work Session (although I'm pretty sure they would have contacted the Law Department or me already if they had a problem with it).
Who/what are the RWNJ's?
In my opinion, it doesn't model simplicity to add layer upon layer to this. The proposed ordinance covers all Knox County employees, in every department. Every department has their own policies and procedures in place to support it. I am comfortable with that.
Yes, I do care deeply for what our teachers - as well as administrators, central office personnel, bus drivers, food service staff, custodians, and security officers - are experiencing right now. I also care about effective and efficient government. I think this proposed ordinance speaks to both.
Let's see...
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
Let's see what the Law Director says at the work session. In the event of an opinion that the ordinance would no apply to KCS employees (they aren't Knox County employees???), then the ordinance still has good reasons to be passed for the other County employees (this is NOT just about schools), and an amendment could be added encouraging the School Board to pass an identical... whatever.
It would be improper for the Commission to recommend the School Board adopt a policy before the Commission voted to adopt the same policy for their employees.
However, I'd agree with Amy on the point that the School Board cannot enact ordinance, and I would argue that KCS employees are still legally employees of Knox County. That they have their own HR department and Ethics policy doesn't seem to me to be a relevant argument. The VW plant in Chattanooga has their own HR department, and probably management there is given the opportunity to write local procedures- but they are still VW employees and if VW in Wolfsburg wants to push a policy to all their facilities, the fact that Chattanooga has a local HR department and a local policy on recycling paper clips doesn't weaken Wolfsburg's authority.
However it happened, it feels
However it happened, it feels skeezy to think about a school board member discussing a specific teacher's performance (and apparently finding it wanting) during a 'retreat' with county commissioners when that teacher isn't given the opportunity to defend himself. Especially when that teacher is fighting for his job.
For the record:
(in reply to Bbeanster)
What I said at the retreat was that there was that I had spent a number of hours working on Mark Taylor's concerns and that there was more to what Mark was presenting than what he shared in public forum. I further stated that I did not feel it was appropriate to discuss specifics about any teacher and I suggested that any commissioner who had concerns should go meet with Dr. Alvez so that all their questions could be addressed. I also said that at the public meeting (School Board meeting on Feb. 3 where Mark Taylor was present and did speak) Mark had stated that everyone knows that the hardest kids to grow on TVAAS were the advanced one's and that made it very difficult to get a 4 or 5. In that same meeting it was than pointed out that of the 11 teachers in the county teaching that same advanced class, 7 of them did achieve a 4 or 5 in TVAAS. I have never spoken with another teacher about Mark and have never tried to evaluate his effectiveness as a teacher.
Taylor is refering to celing effects in assessment
(in reply to kcarson)
Mark Taylor may have said "everyone knows it" because he is referring to what every assessment expert calls ceiling effects. Test score estimates of consistently high performing students are subject to ceiling effects. That means they score at the upper limits of the testing instrument. Due to the design constraints of the test, student abilities are underestimated and growth scores used in TVASS appear flat over time or non-existent. THAT IS A FACT.
THIS FACT is not negated because 7 out of 11 teachers who taught a similar class received 4's or 5's on TVASS. IN FACT that argument is absurd on its face. It's possible that the other 4 classes also experienced ceiling effects.
In general, the 1-5 scale is fraudulent. There is too much statistical noise (e.g., unknown error, peer effects, non-random assignment, SES, unequal scales, etc.) to make the kind of inferences about teacher quality.
If anyone on the school board had any integrity they'd stop the use of this fraudulent use of test scores & TVASS.
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(in reply to jcgrim)
If anyone on the school board had any integrity, he or she would sue to stop the use of this fraudulent use of test scores and TVASS.
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(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
"If anyone on the school board had any integrity, he or she would sue to stop the use of this fraudulent use of test scores and TVASS."
Who has standing to go to court? You've mentioned this and I think it has merit. Could a teacher do this?
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(in reply to Knox Observer)
There are two problems with the teacher evaluation process.
The first problem problem relates to the reliability of using TVAAS or other value-added "scores" (which aren't "scores" at all) for this purpose, as their margin of error is wide and they are volatile from year to year.
Tnchickadee is correct that TEA already has a lawsuit in the works on this count. Don't take my word for it, just call 'em.
The other problem is with the evaluation model itself, within which the TVAAS "score" is employed. As you know, the model causes the "test-less" teacher to have her work evaluated on the basis of another teacher's student TVAAS.
Nationally, only Tennessee and Arizona use such a model. Florida previously used such a model, for two years, but they were hit with a lawsuit from the Florida Education Association (FEA) and their state legislature promptly changed their law to disallow this linking of the "test-less" teacher's evaluation to the value-added data generated by another teacher's students. In fact, when Florida officials tried to get the FEA lawsuit dismissed after changing their state law, the judge said "no," the damage had already been done during the two years the state had followed this process (like Tennessee's). That suit is ongoing.
So yes, one or more Tennessee teachers might file a suit averring injury (lost pay raises, lost tenure, even lost licenses) over this process.
But so, too, might the Knox County Board of Education file such a suit, their injury being that this same capriciousness in the model causes them to retain low-performing but "test-less" teachers, given that the model allows such teachers to "hide behind" the higher value-added data of other teachers.
At least the two attorneys I've spoken with locally have told me that KCS is able to file such a suit.
KCS is certain to be sued, in any event, so why don't they just sue the State Board of Education on the basis of how it is they are also injured by the model?
Yes, they'd incur legal fees, but at least they'd avoid paying damages.
I'm intent on seeing KCS file such a suit--and the sooner, the better.
"I have never spoken with
(in reply to kcarson)
"I have never spoken with another teacher about Mark and have never tried to evaluate his effectiveness as a teacher."
Karen, how can you make this claim? Did you not compare Mark to 11 other teachers? Will you provide us what you said? Minutes were taken at this meeting by the County Clerk, were they not? Did the Clerk also record audio of the meeting?
Why did you single Mark out and why did you make the claims you did at the retreat? Were you trying to intimidate Mark Taylor into dropping his grievance?
I further stated that I did
(in reply to kcarson)
Was this a warning to yourself or did somebody bring up Mr. Taylors name before you?
Trust me, the law suits are
Trust me, the law suits are coming.
Lawsuits cost money
And unfortunately the taxpayers will foot the bills. The edu-frauds in power positions who impose these bad ideas by choosing to ignore research should be personally culpable.
Here's some useful data for a lawsuit
Baker & Oluwole (2013) education scholars from NJ.wrote this brief about VAM & SGP (note this study was conducted by an education scholar NOT MBA/ Broad Academy grads who are trained to identify the profit margins of socks or real estate, etc.)
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FYI, TVASS, VAM & SGP are all similar statistical methods for analyzing and attempting to explain differences in test scores. Different types of analysis are baked into the three methods but none are sensitive enough to elevate one type over another for teacher evaluation purposes.
At the Jan. School board meeting Townes & McIntyre presented TVASS as having better predictability than other methods. This is FALSE. Their presentation was so complex that school board members and the public could not understand it. If they claim, as they did in Jan,that they have enough data in TVASS to wash out error- Don't believe them.
The conclusions reached by Baker & Oluwole are:
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(in reply to jcgrim)
Yes, TEA's suit will also assert that TVAAS is "not designed for inferring teacher influence on student outcomes."
The tack TEA is taking, though, is focused primarily on the standard error of which legislators were so dismissive.
I have TEA's PowerPoint presentation entitled "The Trouble with TVAAS," shared last month at their Fulton High stop on their statewide tour, posted at my website, here.
Problems with the model itself, which "testless-teacher" phenomenon TEA will not be combatting, are easily understood by anyone. Problems with the TVAAS formula employed within that model, though, are more difficult for non-statisticians to grasp.
This TEA presentation, however, is as concise an explanation of the "TVAAS problem" as I've seen anywhere and it's easily understood by folks lacking any extensive background in stats.
I hope people take a look.
Thank you Tamara and Joan; Mark Taylor was right
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Thank you Tamara. I looked at the TEA power point on TVAAS and found the following:
(1)Yet, that same commissioner (Huffman)has authored a licensure renewal plan for teachers under which a teacher’s ability to retain her most valuable possession (license)will be directly tied to evaluation results.Worse still, if she teaches in a tested grade or subject, she could be denied renewal of her license based solely on TVAAS results.
(2)The Commissioner( the idiot Huffman) says this is okay, because according to him TVAAS is a strong predictor of future performance, and teacher impact on student growth is “relatively stable.”Of course, we all know that the first thing wrong with the Commissioner’s assertion is that he is equating an increase in standardized test scores with “student growth,” as though those test scores on that one or two days each year are the sole measure of what we value in good teaching.But aside from his failure to understand that there is more to good teaching and student growth than TCAP scores, there is another more fundamental problem with the Commissioner’s assertion.His claim that TVAAS results are “relatively stable” is simply wrong.
(3)TVAAS’ developers have also reminded us that f you don’t take the standard error, and hence “confidence interval,” into account, it would be “very easy to overreact to
differences among reported gains and percentages.”
(4)That standard error, and the failure to account for it in high-stakes uses of TVAAS, is not the only problem with the use of TVAAS for high-stakes decisions.
As Mr. Rossley of the DOE explained last spring, TVAAS estimates are based on a rolling 5 years of data, so they get recalculated retroactively every year.In other words, we could find out retrospectively when it is too late, through recalculation a year or two or three later, that a teacher didn’t deserve to lose her license, her career, her most valuable possession, after all.
(5) Dr. John Ewing, President of Math for America, describes this sort of use of TVAAS by the Commissioner as “mathematical intimidation.” It is time for mathematical intimidation to be replaced with real understanding.He says that because value-added modeling is based on “sophisticated mathematics,” it is used to intimidate rather than illuminate.
(6) TVAAS is not a “score,” it is only an estimate.
TVAAS is volatile and imprecise.TVAAS is not an appropriate tool for the way it is being used in high-stakes decisions.And it is simply inexcusable that the State would consider taking any teacher’s most valuable possession on the basis of TVAAS results alone.
(7) Let the attorney interest in Mrs Carson and our BOE begin.
....Wait a minute.That is our money.Thank you Tamara and Joan
for the truth that could save our taxpayers a lot of money.
free speech ordinance
Did Sam McKenzie just say in Commission that he opposes Amy Broyles free speech ordinance?
Did Richard Briggs just say he has a problem with a free speech ordinance? He says this is a right to work state?
This is a very strange discussion.
“I think that the county needs to be run like a business,”Briggs
(in reply to Knox Observer)
Thank you Amy...What did you say Dr Briggs?
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the "county needs to be run
(in reply to Dante's Beatrice)
the "county needs to be run like a business" is pretty awful. But the worst part of what Briggs did yesterday was to claim there was no intimidation of teachers and no reason to vote for Amy's resolution. I'm for Cheri Siler and was from the start. I had thought about voting for Briggs in the primary. No way now. Briggs carries water for McIntyre. I saw him at the State of the Schools address and wondered about him. Now I know.
unbelievable
Amy Broyles free speech ordinance passes with one no vote, Commissioner Richard Briggs.
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Mea culpa.
(in reply to R. Neal)
Mea culpa...but KNS did restrict the Briggs "Let them eat cake"
Repub-Repugnant article
Karen Carson ignores local law
This past Monday BOE school board member Karen Carson ignored the resolution created by County Commissioner Amy Broyles protecting teachers right to speak in Public Forum.
See it here:
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No vote was taken. BOE decided without a vote.
Ann,I watched the link and
(in reply to Ann L)
Ann,I watched the link and was very disappointed that Mrs Carson was so reactionary in her proposal.It appears to be an effort to suppress free speech by citizens and to intimidate BOE whistle blowers.This strikes at the heart of the teacher revolt and has a dangerous chilling effect on the free speech of teachers.This "Rube Goldberg checklist" necessary to exercise free speech is the definition of free-speech-not.This is even more onerous in light of Amy's resolution to protect free speech for all employees.The long and extensive chain of command paper trail and delayed public review is the essence of employee intimidation in the era of TVAAS madness..Sadly,this reminds me of the use of literacy tests and constitutional exams as a means of disenfranchisement of black voters .I am sorry to report that all I can say is, "Shame on you.This is unjust and wrong.Withdraw this awful thing now."
Karen Carson
I am stunned to see Karen do this considering her husband was a DOE whistle blower. This is wrong and very hypocritical.
This is what WBIR had:
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Karen Carson: "What I want, ultimately, is to make sure that our system is appropriate and responsive to all employee concerns," she said. "And I believe that we've not been very good at that, and I believe that's what makes people say – well, I need to come bring it before the board."
She added, "But I also believe that bringing forth concerns about how our public education system is working on TV, without documenting attempts to fix those problems at whatever level they need to be addressed, is not good for public education. And it takes a whole lot longer."
Karen Carson back peddles on cnesorship motion
Looks like Carson know she is breaking the law. I hope this goes to court and she loses her BOE seat. She doesn't deserve to sit in that chair.
Arrogant:
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Back peddling:
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Thank God for people like Mark Taylor who will stand up to bullies like Karen Carson. He is a hero in my book.
Chaos
(in reply to Ann L)
Karen Carson is correct about one thing. This system is in chaos. She should fix that. She has the power and it is her job. She's wrong about the best way to go about that being to stifle all the teachers and parents though. She's on mighty thin ice. I wouldn't be comfortable there. Of course, I could stand to lose a few pounds.
McIntyre is the
(in reply to fischbobber)
McIntyre is the chaos:
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There is no excuse for McIntyre's behavior.
McIntyre's a pawn
(in reply to Ann L)
Maybe a knight in this game. He is a minor player in a social experiment designed to bleed taxpayer money and turn children into mindless drones. Hail to our corporate overlords.
Extend protection to all
Extend protection to all citizens. Our state and local governments can sometimes get nasty when corruption is exposed.