I can't help but think that many of the Congresscritters who voted for this odious, stinking pile did so knowing full well that it will be overturned on judicial review. The torture bill and the warantless spying bill are both clearly unconstitutional, and both the Dems and Reps know it. It's an election year however, so they vote for this kind of crap, safe in the assumption that the federal courts will throw out the nonsense once it's challenged.

The only fly in the ointment is that the federal courts have become so thoroughly consumed by the malignancy of the right wing that a federal appeals court (or the Supreme Court) might surprise everyone and actually uphold these laws.

Is that when revolution becomes unavoidable?

Where's the libertarian outrage over these bills? Where's the libertarian wing of the Republican party when they could actually do something useful for once? We hear nothing but crickets chirping from that section of the peanut gallery (which used to be the bulk of the GOP).

Strange, that.

--Socialist With A Gold Card

The only surprise was that Jim Cooper was on the proper side of this issue.

Tanner, Gordon, Ford, Davis all were in favor.

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On tops of mountains, as everywhere to hopeful souls, it is always morning. --H. Thoreau