Mon
Aug 16 2010
05:37 pm

It was a sea of Carter green at the school board workshop and meeting at the Andrew Johnson last week, where board chair Indya Kincannon and Superintendent Jim McIntyre felt the need to invoke emergency powers to call for a vote on Carter Elementary school.

In this photo, the school board is:

Knox County School Board Meeting

a) showing solidarity with the pro-chicken people by doing the funky chicken

b) under arrest

c) "listening" to the Carter community about their elementary school

d) learning how to react in public when the new achievement scores come out in November

e) create your own caption

Rachel's picture

Ok, what were they really

Ok, what were they really doing?

Indya's picture

photo

In honor of National School Fitness month, I asked our Coordinated School Health Counselor, Aneisa McDonald, to lead us in some seated fitness activities during a short 2-3 minute break. Our 3-4 hour sedentary meetings can be back-breaking, and getting the blood flowing helps us physically and mentally.

We're always asking students to eat right and be more active, so on occasion it's nice to practice what we preach, even at the risk of looking silly, which I admit we certainly do in that photo.

As for the School Board's Capital Plan and Carter Elementary, the Board reaffirmed its March vote to support a complete renovation of and addition to the existing building. The March vote was 9-0, last week's vote was 8-1. In the interim the Superintendent looked into various options for new construction, visited other sites in other counties and did more analysis to determine which made more sense educationally and fiscally, renovation or new construction. After this additional scrutiny the conclusion remains that renovation is the right approach, just as it has been at numerous successfully renovated schools across the county.

We all agree that the existing Carter Elementary facility is inadequate. A renovation will fully modernize the building, add classrooms, expand the cafeteria, address plumbing and HVAC issues, etc. Renovation costs $3m, new construction costs $13m. You can read all the details and supporting documents at knoxschools.org.

Indya

Frances Vineyard's picture

Carter Elementary

I have been to the meetings and it is not calling for a "COMPLETE RENOVATION". There will still be "not up to standard" size classrooms, sewage issues, asbestos, lead base paint, water that the school nurse advocates pregnant teachers not drink, and an 80 year old structure!!!! Carter mothers not accept your bandaid!!

R. Neal's picture

Yeah, that's a pretty funny

Yeah, that's a pretty funny photo. What was up with that?

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Exercising

Stress relieving exercise.

Sandra Clark's picture

Being there

I was present ... and simply walked to the back of the room while this was underway. You'll never catch me making like a chicken during a public meeting!

Hopefully, a new school board will have a better ear for the legitimate concerns of Carter residents. -- s.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

School Board

Hopefully, a new school board will have a better ear for the legitimate concerns of Carter residents.

I hope you are right, but I guess that remains to be seen.

After 8th District representative Patrick Richmond asked for a personal privilege deferral of the vote for 30 days, which is automatically granted under board rules, the board chair and superintendent decided to declare an emergency situation so they could get around the personal privilege deferral and vote against a new school anyway.

WhitesCreek's picture

Those aren't so hot...Check

Those aren't so hot...Check out these babies!

Bbeanster's picture

This reminds me of an

This reminds me of an occasion years ago when the late state Rep. Ted Ray Miller had just been busted for extortion and was photographed a couple days later by the NS in a meeting with Gov. McWherter.
Ned had his face buried in his hands, making it look as though he was in anguish over Miller's plight when actually he was talking about a whole other issue (taxes, probably).
McDonald is doing some good work fighting childhood obesity and other problems, and I don't really think it's fair to ridicule her demonstration at this meeting.

Hildegard's picture

Yeah I'm not really getting

Yeah I'm not really getting what the big deal is. They were stretching. Whatever. If they had been taking a long, synchronized swig from a fat can of Coke, that would have been more in line with SOME people's idea of proper classroom nutrition.

Anyway, has anybody heard about the budget crisis, and the implications of the foretold double dip recession as it will relate to state and local governments, including boards of education? We can line up for flu shots this fall, but I don't see any immunity from that money problem.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Lighten Up

Oh good grief, lighten up Bean. It wasn't "ridiculing" McDonald to post this picture.

What really struck me about the photo and the reason I posted it was because it looks like the school board has their hands over their ears, not listening.

Which is sort of funny, because their action to declare an "emergency vote" on the Carter school issue has certainly gotten attention from people all over the county since it was clearly a political move, designed to get around their rule to allow a school board member to request a vote deferral for 30 days. They have now set an interesting precedent they will have to live with and stirred up a lot more unnecessary controversy. It certainly wasn't a move designed to win friends.

SnM's picture

Looks like a move...

...in the "seated Macarena"

jbr's picture

From what I understand

From what I understand periodic light exercise at work helps focus, memory, anger management, alertness and productivity.

Sandra Clark's picture

It's never smart

to do something that looks stupid.

The school board managed to do that TWICE in last week's meeting. -- s.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

Budget issues and Powell High

Just a couple of quick observations on how my community's high school (Powell) has/has not been affected by budget constraints this school year, following my freshman's arrival there yesterday for orientation:

1) His Honors English and Honors Ancient History classes boast 39 and 33 students respectively, with some students presently lacking desks. The good news is that so many students qualified (and there are two sections offered for each of these classes), but the bad news is that this level of enrollment in honors classes doesn't bode well for much individualized instruction. UTK, for example, caps honors class enrollment at 15 students.

2) I phoned the school just this morn, after reading Lola Alapo's KNS story on cuts to high school electives, to ask if Powell High had retained a Latin instructor offering fours years of study. I knew that Powell's Latin teacher went from part-time to full-time just two or three years ago and I also knew that Karns High students wanting to take Latin III and AP Latin IV had been commuting to Powell High for the classes during my older child's time there, just a couple of years ago. The good news is that Powell will continue to offer these classes this year (I don't know whether Karns possibly picked up more Latin classes, but it doesn't seem likely that they would have this year, huh?).

I neglected to ask the guidance department what specific electives Powell cut.

What electives do you hear have been lost in your community's high school course offerings?

Bbeanster's picture

Perhaps they're worried about

Perhaps they're worried about every other community that will be lining up to demand a new school if these tactics work.
Funny how "conservatives" want to hang onto the budget pursestrings everywhere except wherever home happens to be.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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Let's see if I can contribute anything here without ticking off the both of you...

Lisa, Betty's right that WRT staking a community claim on the school capital plan, timing is everything. Carter would have been wiser to have lobbied every school board member individually back last spring, when the board was first addressing the capital plan, rather than to have packed this August board meeting, asking the board to "back up and start over" (I know only because I failed with the same tactic tried on behalf of Powell Middle construction). They would also have been wiser to demonstrate with hard comparative data why their capital need is more pressing than others the board was considering, too, rather than to just clamor that they're being ignored.

But Betty, Lisa's right that Carter has been on a back burner for a long, long time AND that the board has long had difficulty explaining/defending how they prioritize projects. I've asked for years why the board doesn't seek the help of some group like CTAS or TACIR in developling a formula to guide their capital planning, since they must necessarily weigh apples-against-oranges (aging facilities versus overcrowded facilities or projected growth, etc.).

And of course you're both ignoring the dismal forecast for state and local tax revenues Hildegard mentions.

Even if Carter residents' timing had been better and their comparative argument stronger, and even if the board weren't laboring under a public perception that capital funds are doled out only to the "squeakiest wheel," the fact remains that KCS isn't very likely to incur new debt for much of any reason this year and next.

Ducking and covering, now...

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Lobbying

Tamara, I don't disagree that lobbying should have started earlier on, but the community wasn't organized for that.

And with regard to a plan for capital spending, there already is one, the Partnership for Education Facilities Assessment. It was undertaken in 2006 by the MPC, the PBA and the school system and it clearly shows that Carter has the worst buildings in the school system.

In case anyone is wondering, I don't live in Carter - if I had any children, which I don't, they would be zoned for Gibbs.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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I'm familiar with that PEFA study, Lisa, and it does state just a few guidelines the board intends to employ on into the future (like what parameters they'll employ in selecting adequately-sized building sites for elementary versus middle versus high schools, for instance).

In general, though, it's more of a "snapshot" of facilities needs at a given point in time than it is any formula to guide *prioritization* of capital projects on an ongoing basis.

It's this formula that can be applied on into infinity that I feel is lacking in the board's "toolbox."

Every year, it seems they have to reconsider the changed population growth projection for one area, the unforeseen historic growth in another area, and so forth. They lack any device, even within the PEFA document, to tell them how they're to weigh these competing needs among school communities.

Is adding on to an overcrowded school more pressing than replacing an old and crumbling one? Is that old and crumbling one a priority ahead of the school that's to soon be slammed by projected population growth? Those are the kinds of judgments a formula might help the board in making, I think.

Meanwhile, I sure feel badly for the Carter community. Surely everybody knows how lacking their elementary school is (and has been). Best of luck to them.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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And I'll add that I don't think the board should ever build to address projected growth, which is a future need, before they build to address historic growth and/or an aged facility, which are existing needs.

They've done this too many times...

Tamara Shepherd's picture

Update on class overcrowding in my community's high school

I reported earlier that Powell High's Honors English and Honors Ancient History classes boast 39 and 33 students respectively, with some students presently lacking desks--but it looks like they're still tweaking students' schedules.

My son and another of the four frosh I hauled home from school today had all new schedules. Both these kids had been pulled from the overcrowded Honors English class (39 kids) and placed in an Honors Geometry class, instead (15 kids).

Also, my son now thinks he was mistaken to have told me there were two sections of this English class being offered in the first semester. The school has added another section of the class next semester, he says.

On the down side, though, that Honors Ancient History class grew overnight from 33 kids to 36 kids.

Hopefully, we'll find by the end of the week that the school can do better than just-shy-of-40 in an honors class? I'll let you know our experience in the coming days and weeks.

Meanwhile, I'm still curious to hear reports regarding your communities' high schools, both as to any classroom overcrowding and as to which electives you hear have been cut.

EconGal's picture

caption

"You want to know how bad this Carter school decision stinks? Well, just smell this!"

Rachel's picture

I think the picture is

I think the picture is amusing, but I also assumed they were doing something like a stretching exercise. I think one can giggle at how people look w/o dissing them. I suspect any SB members who saw the pic did their own giggling.

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