Wed
Jan 16 2008
12:23 pm

Early voting kicks off today across the state of Tennessee.

Have you folks in Knox County made up your minds for the primaries, or are you going to wait for more campaigning, candidate forums, and interviews (or other shoes to drop)?

Presidential primary voters, are you going to vote right away or see what happens in South Carolina (and Florida and Nevada)?

Early voting locations and schedules can be found at the Knox County Election Commission website, along with sample ballots and more.

Here are some other voter resources for Knox candidates and election info:

WATE Focus on Knox County: 2008 Voter's Guide

WBIR Candidate Surveys

WNOX 2008 Election Guide

Knoxify Online Candidate Interviews

Knoxville News Sentinel Election Guide

KnoxViews Election Coverage

Johnny Ringo's picture

I'm waiting till after the

I'm waiting till after the South Carolina primary.

Average Guy's picture

They mean well, but...

I just voted early. I was assured by some really nice blue haired old ladies that "voting with the box" was much more secure than a paper ballot. However, I did manage confuse those in the room when I asked what server the ethernet connection went to. No one could answer what "that white wire connected to". We settled on wire because no one in the room had heard of ethernet or cat5.

We're idiots for letting idiots in charge. Again, take your camera.

Greg Mackay's picture

Idiots

The voting machines are not connected to the internet.
We would really have to be idiots to do that.

Why don't you help us out and sign up as an election worker?
(link...)

We could use you.

bizgrrl's picture

We would really have to be

We would really have to be idiots to do that.

You're funny... :)

bobaubin's picture

Obama & Vandergriff

We need a President who will act from convictions, not political calculations, and talk straight with us. Barack Obama will stand up for all Americans, working with Democrats, Independents, and Republicans to deliver soultions to the problems we face.

I'm voting for Obama as soon as the election commission processes my registration form... seems they are a little overwhelmed by new registrations. I moved to Knoxville from upstate NY a year ago, so I had to register in Tennessee. The election commission said it would be done by Feb 5th, and that I could vote early if it was processed before Jan 31st.

As far as the local primary I think the only thing I can vote for is County Clerk since there are no Democrats running for County Commission in the 5th district. I'll be voting for Amy Vandergriff for Clerk.

Amy Henley-Vandergriff will streamline the county clerk office and refocus it on serving the community first.

For more info on Barack Obama check out http://tn.barackobama.com or call the Obama Tennessee HQ (615-250-7838). The Knoxville Obama campaign can be reached by emailing Michael Moore (michael.obamatn@gmail.com)

For more info on Amy Henley-Vandergriff check out http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jan/13/amy-henley-vandergriff/

bizgrrl's picture

I moved to Knoxville from

I moved to Knoxville from upstate NY a year ago

Welcome to the big city. Hope you can handle all of our wintry weather.

Nelle's picture

((Grin))

Hope you can handle all of our wintry weather.

You're funny too :)

Joseph P. Addante's picture

Obama/Vandergriff

Bob, I agree with your choices and voted the same.

What clinched it for me with Vandergriff was her being fired. The politicians must have felt she was a grave, serious threat to their dominion to have taken such unjustified and drastic action.
To me that's a powerful endorsement for Vandergriff.

I'm pro woman but I want to vote for someone who is honest, not a Bush clone. After reading Dick Moriss's book about Hillary I had some serious doubts whether she would be an improvement over Bush so it seemed a good idea to get another viewpoint. That's where Edward Klein's book about Hillary came in. Got both books at Halls library.

The theme of both books was the same, based on dozens of detailed examples. The woman has a disturbing tendency to lie to suit her purpose. The last thing the country needs is another dishonest politician with poor judgment like Bush.

After reading Obama's "The Audacity of Hope" I'm convinced if nothing else that Obama is a decent honest man. Honesty is so rare, to find someone with that quality, is a gift I hope the people of the country don't squander.

Pam Strickland's picture

Dick Moriss tells the truth?

Dick Moriss tells the truth? Wow, that's news to me.

I don't know Klein, but I'd be careful with who I believed when it comes to folks taking after one of the Clintons. Folks seem to throw dirt and ask questions later.

Pam Strickland

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut

Joseph P. Addante's picture

Strickland truth

Pam, the truth in both books are the specific and publicly documented examples of Hillary's longtime career of lying and dishonesty.

Not once did Hillary give Tim Russert a clear, direct answer on Meet the Press a couple of Sundays ago. She shifted, evaded, and dodged questions the entire hour. To watch her "performance" was frustrating. Did you watch it?

One Bush was enough, one Clinton was enough. Families don't have a lock on a gene pool and shouldn't have a monopoly entitling them to high political office. Clinton, from Illinois, ran for New York senator. She ought to fulfill her obligations to the voters of New York instead of trying to satisfy her lust for personal political power.

Whether Dick Moriss provides part of the truth, however much you may distrust or detest him, shouldn't really matter as long as his statements and documentation on Hillary's lies are facts.
I want a woman to be president but I want the woman who becomes president to be honest and trustworthy.

So give Edward Klein's book a chance. His credentials appear to be impeccable. But judge for yourself.

Pam Strickland's picture

Generally, speaking, I'm at

Generally, speaking, I'm at church on Sunday mornings. I used to catch the MTP reruns on MSNBC late Sunday. However, basic cable (the $10 version) no longer includes MSNBC.

I wouldn't trust Dick Morris to walk across the street. He's a slime from the beginning of time.

Lie? No. I've known the woman since 1983. Do I trust HRC? Yeah, I think I do, but I also know that she's a politician and a lawyer, so she's going to be careful how she speaks to anyone.

As for reading an entire book that trashes any politician, I don't have time. I find that there are better things for me to do in the world, like help other people.

Who do I plan to vote for? I honestly don't know. I think I might like to pick and choose what I like from the three front runners. I wanted to vote for Richardson....

pgs

Pam Strickland

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut

reform4's picture

My Review of Local Media Coverage

For those who are interested:

(link...)

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Fighting for Reform and Representation, Fourth District
Steve Drevik, Commission Seat 4-B
(link...)

bill young's picture

voted 10 this morning

I'm done..I've voted

I voted for Sam McKenzie in the 1st district democratic primary.

Eleanor A's picture

Just got back from casting

Just got back from casting my etherballot for Hillary. Also a few write-ins for Al and Tipper Gore, in many of the uncontested local races in my district, as is my habit...

Joseph P. Addante's picture

Clinton

Eleanor, have you read Dick Moriss's or Edward Klein's book on Hillary? Or Obama's "The Audacity of Hope"?

It might be a good idea to brush up a bit on these books between now and November in order to make a more informed decision.

Rachel's picture

Dick Morris

Look, Hillary isn't at the top of my hit parade, but I wouldn't put any stock into what Dick Morris said about anything. (And yes, I'm depressed by the fact that Bill Clinton did listen to him.)

Joseph P.  Addante's picture

McKenzie

Bill, KUB rate increases must not bother you. While on the board at KUB McKenzie approved all the many rate increases KUB requested.

Natural gas through KUB costs Knoxville citizens almost double what the people in Northern Illinois pay through Nicor. KUB claims transportation costs are the reason. But common sense says transportation costs of almost $1.00 per therm is nothing more than gouging. KUB has no competition. Therefore KUB has no incentive to provide affordable natural gas rates to its captive customers.

redmondkr's picture

KUB claims transportation

KUB claims transportation costs are the reason. But common sense says transportation costs of almost $1.00 per therm is nothing more than gouging.

I don't have a dog in that fight since I live where I have to tank propane, but shouldn't the proximity of the Colonial Pipeline off Middlebrook Pike cause natural gas transportation costs to be somewhat lower than in other parts of the country?

I thought that was one of the reasons Knoxville area gasoline prices were not as terrible as in some places.


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Andy Axel's picture

give Edward Klein's book a

give Edward Klein's book a chance. His credentials appear to be impeccable.

A little research might be in order before you go recommending this book.

The Truth About Hillary is being published by Sentinel, a two-year-old conservative imprint of the Penguin Putnam publishing house. According to The Washington Times, sales materials produced by the publisher claim: "Just as the Swift Boat Veterans convinced millions of voters that John Kerry lacked the character to be president, Klein's book will influence everyone who is sizing up the character of Hillary Clinton." Similarly, the New York Post reported on April 12 that Sentinel spokesperson Will Weisser "said he hoped that The Truth About Hillary would do to Clinton what the Swift Boat Veterans bestseller did to Kerry. 'That would be our fondest wish,' he said, before adding, 'We're just trying to sell books. It will be up to the voters to read the book and decide for themselves about Senator Clinton. We're not out to get anyone, per se."

And...

The Truth About Hillary author Edward Klein reportedly has a personal dislike of the Clintons; the New York Post reported in December that an "insider said Klein doesn't care for the Clintons, and he is digging up some new dirt on them."

That dislike may have motivated Klein to rely on the notoriously unreliable Dick Morris, who said on Hannity & Colmes that he was interviewed for the book. Morris's comments about Clinton should, of course, be taken with a shaker of salt; not only has he repeatedly made false and misleading claims about her, he also acknowledged that he'll do anything to defeat her.

What next? Should we listen to Chris Matthews every night before we "make up our minds?"

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Joseph P. Addante's picture

Klein's The Truth about Hillary

Andy, I don't need to do research about books I've read. I can think for myself. To be reviewed by both the "Washington Post" and the "New York Times" is in itself a kind of endorsement and indicates Klein's book is a work to be taken seriously. I don't see a problem with either review and am glad I read this informative, well written, and apparently well documented book. I haven't heard Hillary filing any lawsuit for slander, have you?

Besides, what's wrong with Klein digging up dirt on Clinton if it's true? After all, there is a lot of dirt to dig up.

Andy, did you bother to read Klein's book or is simply posting someone else's reviews your cup of tea?

Pam Strickland's picture

Actually, if it is in print,

Actually, if it is in print, it would be liable not slander. And, based on Supreme Court rulings it is almost impossible for a public figure to prove liable because the public figure must show that the author was knowledgeable that the information was incorrect AND that they had malice in their thoughts when they made the statement.

Pam Strickland

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut

Joseph P. Addante's picture

Hillary's libel

Maybe Hillary didn't squawk about the statements in Klein's book "The Truth about Hillary" because the book contains the truth. Did that occur to you?

You really think if either book told lies about Hillary she'd look the other way without a peep out of her mouth? Notoriously vindictive combative Hillary? Surely you jest.

Hillary wouldn't have to prove libel she'd just have to publicly refute the statements. Haven't heard a peep.

Considering you're such a churchgoer Pam, it's a little surprising you're so willing to defend lies and a liar.

Pam, you say you know Hillary. How well? You met her? You saw a mask; the mask she wanted you to see.

Pam Strickland's picture

Mr. Addante, I think we all

Mr. Addante,

I think we all wear masks; the masks we want others to see and acknowledge. My guess is that you wear the mask of a software salesperson who likes to write letters to KNS about gun control.

As for how well, I know Hillary. I saw and conversed with her regularly under a wide variety of circumstances from 1984 until 1991.

As for all the rest, I stand by what I said.

Pam Strickland

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut

Andy Axel's picture

Andy, did you bother to read

Andy, did you bother to read Klein's book or is simply posting someone else's reviews your cup of tea?

Not spending money on hatchet jobs from admittedly conservative imprints is my cup of tea. Not giving credence to a Swift-Boat effort on Hillary Clinton is my cup of tea.

And read more closely - it was reviewed by the Washington Times, the Moonie paper. Even more reason to avoid that piece of gutter filth.

____________________________

With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Joseph P. Addante's picture

Andy's slant

Andy, it sounds like keeping a closed mind is your cup of tea. You're one of those guys whose cup of tea is "don't confuse me with the facts".

"Not spending money on hatchet jobs" is your excuse for not fact finding or researing for yourself whether a book is worthwhile.

The spending money excuse doesn't hold much water since you don't need to "spend money" to get the book from your local library.

I'd hate to have you be a juror in a trial. The facts get presented but you ignore them because you assume you already know the truth.

Andy Axel's picture

It's the Agenda, Stupid

You're one of those guys whose cup of tea is "don't confuse me with the facts".

Aw, someone called your precious widdle source into question. Aw.

"Facts" are about the last thing that you get from a conservative imprint whose employees say that they'd love for this book to have the same effect on Hillary that "Unfit for Command" had on Kerry.

It's the same reason I don't watch Fox Noise.

"Not spending money on hatchet jobs" is your excuse for not fact finding or researing for yourself whether a book is worthwhile.

Um, I did the research, in case you didn't notice? So this claim hardly holds water.

More inconvenient utterances: (link...)

I'd hate to have you be a juror in a trial. The facts get presented but you ignore them because you assume you already know the truth.

You know me not at all. I find that people who claim to have THE TRVTH are immediately suspect in my book, and they're usually kooks.

____________________________

With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Joseph P. Addante's picture

Agenda

Andy, "stupid"? Name calling so soon? It doesn't take much to get under your skin, huh? What's your agenda? Fighting, arguing and belittling? When you call somebody stupid does that make you feel superior? You get off on putting people down?

Klein's book is one of many sources. So calling it my only one was a mistaken assumption on your part. What's your source? What do you bring to the table other than criticism? You don't read so where does your information come from?

"You did the research"? You did? What research did you do other than digging up a couple of reviews that supported your viewpoint? You've provided a lot of personal opinions but little else.

"I know you not at all"? You're flattering yourself.

At the end of your post you wrote "there is no such thing as Objective Journalism". That's why it's important to keep an open mind and use a multitude of sources, not exclusively liberal or conservative. That's something, "I don't watch Fox Noise", you don't practice. Good night.

Carole Borges's picture

I'm voting today. I'll vote for "a change we can believe in"

The only thing I do know for sure is that any of the Democratic candidates for president would be better than any of the Republican candidates. Bush clones are the last thing this country needs, and the Republicans all seem to be in that mode, except for the ones who never had a chance anyway.

In my opinion:

Huckabee is probably a nice guy, but he obviously has no respect for the seperation of Church and State and that is one principle which I believe most of our individual freedoms rely on.

Guiliani is a tyrannical ego-maniac who will only increase fear and spending for "protective measures", which I also see as a danger to privacy and freedom.

Mitt Romney is a corporate robot. He would put the "bottom line" before human beings every time. Romney hasn't much of what I consider "soul". He wants everything to be compartmentalized and clean and as uniform and standard as a Henry Ford car or McDonald's drive-in.

Ron Paul can't be considered because he let his organization publish detestable racist remarks, then claimed he had no idea what his organization was publishing at the time. Who would want a president who hasn't a clue what his underlings are up to?

John McCain used to have my respect, but his reason and compassion seems to have disappeared as he now sings GW's praises loud and clear every chance he gets and the poor fool actually think the war was a good idea.

On the Democratic side we have Hillary (and her charismatic and able consort Bill). They have done some good for minorities and Hillary's attempt to bring health care to everyone way back when was a noble effort, but the Clintons are highly polished, often ruthless Washington politicos with obvious ties to many special interests. The Lewinsky affair proved Bill is a fool and Hillary a confusing role model for women. She stood by her man--or was she just being a smart politician who knew divorcing Bill would ruin her ambitions?

If you have no desire to change the direction of our country and to improve its image world wide, if you want someone who knows "the game" and how to play it well, then then I'd go for Hillary, but if you're looking for a person who desires and is able to restore American ideals and bring real hope and change then the Clintons (and yes, there is no way to get only ONE Clinton in the White House) can't seem like a good choice.

Edwards is a one issue candidate. He will have his chance to prove helping the working class is truly his "life's work". He doesn't need to be in the White House to do that. Jimmy Carter vowed to fight poverty and he has gone on to prove that he meant it. Edwards can do the same, but he just doesn't have what it takes to get the whole country behind him. And if he tells the same mill story one more time or the dead girl because of the insurance company story, I think I'll scream.

The others had some good ideas. Richardson especially. Kucinich in some cases, but when you put all the candidates together only one seems to have it all. For me, it is BARACK OBAMA.

Can he lead? Yes, indeed! He already is.

Obama has risen up from the grassroots base of America to lead the way away from war. He has changed the tone of the debate to the point where the edgy Clinton attack-model looks cheap and tawdry, and he has inspired millions to renew their belief in things like equality, dignity, and American ideals. Barack Obama is very intelligent and quite capable of creating an adminisitration that operates on reason rather than ambition. He is also a symbol of a new America, one that is not color and race divided, one that is tolerant of people's religious beliefs, one that is not based on fear, but compassion.

In the 2nd District, I'm all for Amy Broyles. She is a tireless community worker with a good grasp of local politics. I'll vote for her because she has put her feet and her mind behind her advertised intentions to be a good councilwoman. Every neighborhood meeting you go to, there's Amy. She asks questions. She knows how to listen. She's a fantastic organizer. Environmentally, economically and neighborhood-wise, I really admire her.

I don't know a whole lot about Piper. Over the course of the last year, I've only met her once or twice at community meetings. She seems nice, but nothing stands out, and some of her campaign tactics or those of her supporters are questionable. Trash mailings in her name recently arrived in a lot of mailboxes in our district. This has hurt her campaign. Piper also has HUGE signs posted everywhere. I guess she needs to boost her name recognition or she has money to burn on advertising. Amy doesn't have to adsvertise who she is as much because so many people in the District know her name. They know they can call her about problems. They know she will answer questionas professionally and honestly. They know she is very involved in every aspect of our community.

Who will win? We just don't know, but as a person who still belivves that we must use our power to vote or lose it entirely and someone who believes that grassroot's movements and citizen particpation can bring about change, I'm always fascinated by elections.

This one has not been disappointing. I think it has been very exciting and energizing.

Andy Axel's picture

UNITY!!!

Andy, "stupid"? Name calling so soon? It doesn't take much to get under your skin, huh? What's your agenda? Fighting, arguing and belittling? When you call somebody stupid does that make you feel superior? You get off on putting people down?

Don't tell me you've never heard the expression, "It's the economy, stupid." I was using what's called in the parlance of our times a "paraphrase" - for the humor-impaired, I was making a mocking reference to Carville's old Clinton campaign saw.

Have you not heard that expression? Do you not follow politics? I mean, I may have mistakenly assumed that you did, seeing as how you were kinda, y'know, talking about them and all. My bad.

"I know you not at all"? You're flattering yourself.

Well, unless you're using a pseudonym, I don't know a Joseph Addante. You're not registered here. So how could you know me? Come clean, or I'll just have to assume I've earned myself a troll. (Rough guess via Google... are you a podiatrist? I've got this nagging case of plantar fasciitis...)

At the end of your post you wrote "there is no such thing as Objective Journalism".

Yep. I did. It's a quote from Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 by the late Hunter S. Thompson. See, thing is, I do actually read. And yeah - everyone brings a bias to their reportage. Some just have an agenda about it.

More HST:

We've come to a point where every four years this national fever rises up — this hunger for the Saviour, the White Knight, the Man on Horseback — and whoever wins becomes so immensely powerful, like Nixon is now, that when you vote for President today you're talking about giving a man dictatorial power for four years. I think it might be better to have the President sort of like the King of England — or the Queen — and have the real business of the presidency conducted by... a City Manager-type, a Prime Minister, somebody who's directly answerable to Congress, rather than a person who moves all his friends into the White House and does whatever he wants for four years. The whole framework of the presidency is getting out of hand. It's come to the point where you almost can't run unless you can cause people to salivate and whip each other with big sticks. You almost have to be a rock star to get the kind of fever you need to survive in American politics.

Keen observer, that guy.

That's something, "I don't watch Fox Noise", you don't practice.

So now I have to make excuses for my decisions based on the feedback of some random sock puppet on the Internets? Ooooh. I'm positively trembling in my shame.

____________________________

With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

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