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Dec 10 2020
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On Thursday, 106 GOP representatives signed an amicus brief sent to the Supreme Court in support of a petition by Texas attorney general Ken Paxton. The petition requests that the Supreme Court grant an emergency order that would nullify presidential election results declaring Joe Biden the winner in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin based on a bogus claim about mail-ballot rules.
Tim Burchett "endorsed Trump’s attempt to overthrow the election and stay in power for another four years."
He's assisting with a coup to nullify the election. No longer a hometown boy. Disgusting.
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This really bothers me that
This really bothers me that they are to stupid to realize they are playing a huge role in the dismantling of our democracy. Do they really believe that if trump is successful with this coup that he will ever leave office? Ever!!!
Also! Could Burchett and other GOPers be guilty of aiding and abetting considering that the Texas AG is only trying to overturn the elections in the four swing states in hopes that Trump will pardon him for his crimes? Which by the way, has now become a full blown FBI investigation.
I do wonder if Trump may be behind this investigation just to keep pressure on Paxton to continue this lawsuit.
Any thoughts?
Tim Burchett is a hypocrite
Tim Burchett is a hypocrite and loser! He has always emphasized his support for veterans and then has not had the guts to speak out against Trump's calling the men and women that have served in the military as losers and suckers. Trump's refusal to take action against Russia after they paid bounties on dead American soldiers was a disgrace. No criticism from Tim. Burchett continues to kiss Trump's rear regardless of what he does including trying to steal the election. Burchett is an embarrassment to Tennessee and to his parents. Burchett and Trump are the real losers. They are pathetic!
well Knoxville you got what you wanted
Tim Burchett is just going along with the rest of the Republican party , down a rabbit hole . Do they really feel there was fraud? You can't nullify some states and not nullify the whole election. This is really crazy.
That might be the ultimate
(in reply to wisdom4all)
That might be the ultimate goal is to have the whole election tossed out. But I have news for them.
"A determination that neither candidate has secured a majority of electoral votes would trigger a "contingent election" under the 12th Amendment of the Constitution. That means the House of Representatives chooses the next president, while the Senate selects the vice president."
Courtesy of Reuters
So in all likelihood, Biden would still assume office of president.
Biden would very likely not win under that scenario
(in reply to JaHu)
In this scenario the House does choose. But its choice is prescribed as follows. Each state's delegation gathers and votes, with a majority choosing the state's choice. Each state gets one vote. The winner is determined after after all the states' votes are counted. Biden would not win because the GOP has majorities of 26 state delegations.
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JaHu wrote -
Well that's dissapointing!
(in reply to Bill Lyons)
Well that's dissapointing! Let's hope it doesn't come to that, and now with the Supreme Courts newest ruling maybe it won't.
Thanks for the clarification.
Sedition
Isn’t what Tim is doing here sedition? Isn’t that illegal? What am I missing? Republicans seem to be trying awful hard to normalize some pretty despicable behavior.
If this is what you are
(in reply to fischbobber)
If this is what you are meaning by sedition, then I'm sure if it quite fits the bill.
"Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. The following provides an overview of this particular crime against the government, with historical references." FindLaw
They are trying to overturn a state law which is not quite overthrowing the state's government unless they are inciting people to commit violence to take over the state's government. But they are walking a fine line.
This is what really bothers me about trump among many things, instead of treating our constitution with respect, he's continuously pushing it to its boundaries. And that also goes for the ones who tries to give his actions validation which includes Burchett.
Violence as a result of political leaders attempt to overturn
(in reply to JaHu)
Now that the movement to overturn the election and overthrow our government rather than allowing for the peaceful transfer of power has turned violent and rises to a constitutional level of defined insurrection, how does one remove those participating in the insurrection from power? Virtually our entire East Tennessee congressional delegation has had a documented role in publicly supporting an attempted takeover by Donald Trump as well as Senator Blackburn , Mayor Jacobs through his public support for this group at a local meeting, and others in political office as well. What is the process for removing elected officials who have disqualified themselves from holding public office due to their support of insurrection against the constitution? Is there case law and precedence? Asking for a friend.
I’ve read the 14th Amendment over for hours and these folks are clearly in violation of both the letter and spirit of the amendment ( now that violence has ensued as a result of the actions they advocated) and while their crime is pretty well defined, how one goes about enforcing it isn’t.
Violence as a result of political leaders attempt to overturn
(in reply to JaHu)
Duplicate post due to the difficulty in navigating uncharted waters.
He's probably thinking ahead
He's probably thinking ahead to Senate or Vice Presidency.
If the Republicans would use
(in reply to michael kaplan)
If the Republicans would use their heads they could turn the tides on trump and wouldn't have to compromise their morals and ethics to get elected. But that's now been tossed out the window. I can't understand why so many people in this country would sell their souls for this one man. It's literally unbelievable. I honestly believe they would turn their backs on their own fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers for this one man.
PA Attorney General, I don't
PA Attorney General,
I don't know if they need a surgeon to repair their spines or a psychiatrist to examine their heads.
Something is wrong with these people that they are willing to follow Donald Trump as far as he is trying to take them.
I saw the interview with the
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I saw the interview with the PAAG on youtube. Pretty strong words yet on point.i wonder if Trump and his cronies and his other political cheerleaders actions with these frivolous lawsuits could be construde as abuse of power?
George Korda interviews
George Korda interviews Burchett for KNS. No mention from Burchett of the tragedy of the pandemic. No mention of his going along with sedition and attempts to nullify the election of Biden.
He does mention the horrible liberals 4 times and socialist twice.
“In Tennessee, there’s a lot more honor and integrity in legislation than in Washington. If we could fix that, we wouldn’t be voting on a bunch of garbage.”
Hah! Almost choked on that line.
I think he did fix it. There
(in reply to bizgrrl)
I think he did fix it. There is no longer honor or integrity in Tennessee politics which seems to be his and our other state leaders goal.
Section 3 14th Amendment.
The way I read this, if violence occurs during the peaceful transition of power, Tim has disqualified himself from serving in the House of Representatives.
It's almost like a you break, you bought it clause. It's your mob, if they get out of hand, you pay.
You might find it interesting
(in reply to fischbobber)
You might find it interesting to learn that Congressman Bill Pascrell of New Jersey has written a letter to Pelosi, as you have mentioned here about Burchett, that the 126 members of Congress who signed the Texas lawsuit in an attempt to undermine out democractric election process, should no longer be allowed to be seated in Congress.
(link...)
Refusal to seat 126 GOP reps
(in reply to JaHu)
Concerning Rep. Pascrell's suggestion that Dems should refuse to seat the 126 GOP reps to have joined in the TX amicus brief, it can't be done.
A SCOTUS ruling in 1969 (Powell v. McCormack) established that refusal to seat members of Congress may be undertaken *only* for reasons relating to prospective members' failure to meet qualifications as defined in the Constitution's Article I-- Qualifications of Members clause, namely matters of citizenship, age, or residency.
Congress has in the past refused to seat prospective members for reasons beyond just these, but it can no longer do so.
Shucks!
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Shucks!
Lamar Alexander was
Lamar Alexander was interviewed on Meet the Press this morning, and he was not the least bit apologetic about Trump's behavior, or the unwavering Republican support for him.
Many people gain wisdom as
Many people gain wisdom as they get older. Not Lamar Alexander. At 80 years old, Alexander is a gutless disgrace. He is more pathetic today than he was as Tennessee's governor. You would think with him leaving the Senate he would have enough guts to speak some truth about our wannabe dictator Trump. The interview on Meet the Press shows the real pettiness Alexander has always embraced. He shares the blame for the damage Trump has done to our democracy.He is a loser and we should all celebrate his retirement.
One thing I've learned of the
(in reply to Mike Daugherty)
One thing I've learned of the trump supporters that I personally know. They are the type of people who would rather destroy our democracy and be taken over by a dictator than to admit that they are wrong. And I'm not just refereeing to their relentless following of Donald Trump. I'm referring to throughout their lives they've been this way. And you can usually tell when they are wrong they become very angry and defensive if called out.
Tim's response to my email to him
I contacted Tim and this is his response to me.
Thank you for contacting me regarding the lawsuit State of Texas v. Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (22O155). It is an honor to serve in Washington on behalf of the Second District, and I appreciate you sharing your concerns surrounding this important topic.
As you know, on December 8, 2020, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court of the United States against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the states of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin to challenge their handling of the 2020 presidential election. The suit alleged that local officials' changes to election procedures violated the Electors Clause of the U.S. Constitution and requested a temporary stay on the certification of these states' election results. On December 10, 2020, 106 members of the U.S. House of Representatives filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court concerning violations of the Electors Clause and affirming state legislatures' sole authority to change the election process. On December 11, 2020 an additional twenty members of Congress added their support, totaling 126 members of the U.S. House of Representatives who signed onto this brief. I have consistently stated that every legal ballot should be counted, and this amicus brief encouraged a careful review of alleged election irregularities in these four states.
However, you may be pleased to know that on December 11, 2020, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the lawsuit. I appreciate you informing me about your views on this issue so I can continue to fight for the interests of those who elected me to represent them in Congress.
Please let me know if I may assist you with any issues in the future.
Sincerely,
Rep. Tim Burchett
Member of Congress
Lame.
(in reply to xmd)
Lame.
Can't believe Michael Grider
(in reply to xmd)
Can't believe Michael Grider wrote that. Sounds more like Rudy Giuliani.
"I have consistently stated
(in reply to xmd)
"I have consistently stated that every legal ballot should be counted, and this amicus brief encouraged a careful review of alleged election irregularities in these four states."
Then how about North Carolina where they allowed absentee ballots 9 days after the election?
Has Burchett joined Trump on
Has Burchett joined Trump on Trump's next attempt to overturn Pennsylvania election results?
Pennsylvania has 20
(in reply to bizgrrl)
Pennsylvania has 20 electorals and North Carolina has 15. Biden should seek to have North Carolina's Election overturned if they overturn Pennsylvania's. Biden would still have more than enough electorals. As I stated in my other post, NC allowed absentee ballots to be counted if they arrived 9 days after the election. I bet if they checked, there were many more states that Trump won that have election irregularities because of covid. I hope it doesn't come to being decided by the court. That is not democracy.
Trump's sheep doesn't seem to have a clue of what they are doing to our democracy.
Should Republicans who are
Should Republicans who are joining Trump in his effort to overturn the election results in the key battleground states, first be required to seek to have the elections in their own states overturned if their state made any changes, due to covid, in how votes were cast in their state?
House Republicans meet with Trump to discuss overturning election results
politico.com