Tue
Jun 15 2010
08:13 am
TYP public forum
By: R. Neal

What: TYP public forum
When: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 6:00pm
Where: 7400 Deane Hill Drive

TYP press release:

The Office of the Ten-Year Plan to End Chronic Homelessness would like to invite the public to a public conversation at the Deane Hill Recreation Center on Wednesday, June 23 from 6 p.m. until 7 p.m. at 7400 Deane Hill Drive.

We’ll be discussing the development of Knoxville and Knox County’s Ten-Year Plan to End Chronic Homelessness. Dr. Roger Nooe, Professor (Emeritus) UT College of Social Work; Mike Dunthorn, Ten-Year Plan Project Manager; and Linda Rust, the Knox County Mayor’s representative to the Homeless Coalition and the Ten-Year Plan Advisory Board will form a panel to present for the first half of the meeting. The second half will be reserved for questions and conversation related to the subject of the process by which the Ten-Year Plan was developed in our community.

whooshe65's picture

I wonder if they will address

Submitted by whooshe65 on Wed, 2010/06/16 - 8:21am.

I wonder if they will address the history of their refusal to hear the People of South Knoxville and specifically the Vestal Community.

One Vestal resident talks about this in the KNS today.

(link...)

michael kaplan's picture

1/2 of meeting gives them the

Submitted by michael kaplan on Mon, 2010/06/21 - 11:01pm.

1/2 of meeting gives them the chance

you mean the second half-hour?

rikki's picture

TYP really ought to approach

Submitted by rikki on Wed, 2010/06/16 - 8:49am.

TYP really ought to approach communities with at least three potential locations and the understanding that one will be chosen. No neighborhood is going to be eager to host a facility. A church with excess land might be the best hope for a site with community buy-in.

TYP might also want to define parameters for acceptable sites, then winnow a list down from there so that neighborhoods do not feel singled out.

whooshe65's picture

rikki,It looks like you have

Submitted by whooshe65 on Wed, 2010/06/16 - 9:49am.

rikki,
It looks like you have been reading the TYP Choice referendum that states:

(a) a comprehensive and detailed capital and operating budget for any proposed facilities, including any financial commitments by the City of Knoxville and any other funding sources and amounts, (b) an analysis of any savings, cost reductions or other financial benefits projected to accrue to the City from adoption of the plan, with specific reference to line items of the City budget which can be reduced as a result of such savings, (c) site selection criteria and identification of any targeted sites or target areas, and (d) a public input plan which requires public notice of any site under consideration for such facilities at least ninety (90) days prior to any Council action thereon, posting of the property at least four (4) weeks prior to any Council action thereon, and at least two (2) public hearings to be conducted in the area where the site is located prior to any Council action thereon.

And looks like you agree with it.

rikki's picture

I don't see why a better

Submitted by rikki on Wed, 2010/06/16 - 10:42am.

I don't see why a better process for future site selection has to include complete destruction of the 2005 plan. The third part of that petition makes me uncomfortable. The language seems absolute, and I don't know what the ramifications might be from all that rescinding and revoking.

bizgrrl's picture

From VolunteerTV, a new

Submitted by bizgrrl on Sun, 2010/06/20 - 6:22am.

From VolunteerTV, a new report shows homeless families increasing as homeless individuals is on the decline.

"We have been seeing complete occupancy, 100 percent occupancy on our family floor," said Angie Sledge, Vice President of Knox Area Rescue Ministries [KARM].

Joyce Shoudy, Family Promise of Knoxville's Director, said she hopes this report will shift the focus from the 10-year plan for the chronic population to homeless families.

sobi's picture

Amen.

Submitted by sobi on Sun, 2010/06/20 - 8:54pm.

The focus should be on BOTH problems. Not either/or.

And amen.

michael kaplan's picture

am i reading this correctly?

Submitted by michael kaplan on Mon, 2010/06/21 - 3:13pm.

June 23 from 6 p.m. until 7 p.m

ONE HOUR???

Rachel's picture

All of these meetings have

Submitted by Rachel on Mon, 2010/06/21 - 3:49pm.

All of these meetings have been scheduled for an hour - there's a whole series of them going on; this is the third. I believe this one is supposed to focus on the history of the TYP.

michael kaplan's picture

as i recall, the last meeting

Submitted by michael kaplan on Mon, 2010/06/21 - 11:05pm.

as i recall, the last meeting in this neighborhood went on for several hours.

is this supposed to be a neighborhood meeting, or a city meeting? it seems a long way to drive for an hour meeting.

Rachel's picture

It's a citywide meeting. The

Submitted by Rachel on Mon, 2010/06/21 - 11:28pm.

It's a citywide meeting. The first two were at the Cansler Y, so I suppose they are spreading them around now.

CathyMcCaughan's picture

The anti group lists an

Submitted by CathyMcCaughan on Tue, 2010/06/22 - 9:40am.

The anti group lists an address on Morrell at the top of their site. Deane Hill rec seems like a deliberate choice and the short length may be expectations of the meeting degrading into pointlessness after an hour. Or - it could be a coincidence.

whooshe65's picture

It's a TYP meeting organized

Submitted by whooshe65 on Tue, 2010/06/22 - 7:40am.

It's a TYP meeting organized by them, to attempt to put the Genie back in the bottle.

According to a friend of mine that was at the Variance meeting last night at the South Knoxville Community Center. Robert Finley, David Arning, and David Massey, basically lost control of the meeting after an 85+ year old area resident asked Arning if Flenniken was a "Done Deal".

Arning, said somethng like, "as far as the neighborhood stopping the Zoning and the Variance for Flenniken No,they can't, As far as the residents ability to stop the Flenniken project NO they can't"

My friend said that at that point people started asking yelling at Arning, and asked why they were even having that meeting, if the TYP folks were'nt going to act on the concerns of the neighborhood?

Arning and Finley basically acted put upon when people asked them the same questions that they have been asking for the last 2+ years, about Safety, Accountabliity, Supportive Services etc... TYP folks seemed unable to give real answers to much of anything.

I would encourage anyone that wants to see how the TYP officials are handling these meetings and continue to try to put the Genie back in the bottle, to go the the Deane Hill Rec. Center Meeting on Wednesday night.

bizgrrl's picture

I'd like to see a full report

Submitted by bizgrrl on Tue, 2010/06/22 - 7:47am.

I'd like to see a full report on that meeting. You can't beat a SoKno brouhaha.

michael kaplan's picture

i think the purpose of these

Submitted by michael kaplan on Tue, 2010/06/22 - 8:36am.

i think the purpose of these meetings is to demonstrate that there has been a 'community conversation.'

we learned from the candy factory - among many other things - that most of these deals are 'done' before there is meaningful community input. (by 'meaningful' i mean input beyond submitting a wish list to a website ..)

i should add here that, at one of the early city/county workshops, the most vocal opponents of the 'scattered' approach came from east knoxville, to the idea that floors of public housing be converted into permanent supportive housing. i'm sure that idea has been dropped like a hot potato ...

Rachel's picture

i think the purpose of these

Submitted by Rachel on Tue, 2010/06/22 - 1:32pm.

i think the purpose of these meetings is to demonstrate that there has been a 'community conversation.'

The purpose of these meetings (the informational ones like the one at Deane Hill, not the one last night, which was strictly concerned with the Flenniken parking variance) is to get out info about the TYP and to answer questions from citizens. These meetings are a good idea. They are also about 2 years later than they should have been held.

However, they are being held in response to the community raising so many concerns, and I'm glad the TYP woke up and realized that they should be working with the community.

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