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Apr 1 2012
04:12 pm

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Been waiting a couple of days for better weather and we got some this AM after the fog broke. We put our new tandem kayak in at Maxey's for our maiden voyage, and after paddling around the coves a little to get comfortable with it we went up the river a ways.

According to Google Tracks, it was about a three mile round trip paddle and our max forward speed was 5.13 MPH. Very peaceful and relaxing, and a good upper body workout. Gracie seemed to enjoy it, too, but got a little fidgety after an hour or so. Couple more pics after the jump...

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WhitesCreek's picture

Good for you guys! Enjoy.

Good for you guys! Enjoy.

smalc's picture

So Steve, would you recommend

So Steve, would you recommend a sit-on-top kayak over a canoe for adult/child setup? (we are talking novice) I've never been in a kayak, and the few canoes I've been in have not been too stable, but my wife wants to give it a try.

WhitesCreek's picture

That's not a simple question

I guess I should write up something to send folks when they ask the "What boat should I buy" question. It would be rather long, unfortunately. The short answer is to check with a good boat dealer and ask when their on the water demonstration day is and go paddle as many boats as you can. They all have their pros and cons. Kayaks are easier to figure out for the novice. Canoes are more comfortable, can carry more stuff, and are generally lighter but have a learning curve for the paddle skills. Some people like canoes...some like kayaks. I like all of them and have a fleet. One boat does not do everything. The main thing I tell every body is that you are buying your first boat, not your last one, so go do it.

Note: Do not skimp on your life jacket or paddle and take a class if at all possible before you buy anything.

R. Neal's picture

Particulars

Thanks, Steve, and thanks for the advice. (Quote: "You are getting your first boat, not your last one.")

Here's what we decided on, in case it helps anyone else considering a family-style kayak setup.

After some research, we decided on the Ocean Kayak Malibu Two XL. From everything I read, it is one of the most idiot proof sit on top tandem kayaks. We got yellow for visibility (by motor boats and/or search & rescue). Based on one outing, it's very stable, fairly easy to paddle, and it tracks pretty straight.

We got it from Austin Kayak after some frustrations trying to buy locally. Plus, the price was right and shipping was cheap and a non-issue.

A close second was the Hobie Odyssey. It's a little longer and a little more expensive (but includes paddles and hatches), but also slightly heavier and about 1" narrower. We went for wider (more stable?) and lighter. Plus I didn't want hatches because I read they can leak.

(The guy at Riversports wanted to sell us a $2800 pedal powered version. No thanks, but after paddling today I can sort of see the attraction.)

We also had to get a rack. Our Ford Freestyle had the rails but no horizontal bars. We got the Yakima RailGrab Towers with a set of cross bars, plus a set of EvenKeel saddles that came with tie downs, etc. I read somewhere that it's better to transport your boat right side up if possible because that way it rests on the strongest part of the boat. We got the Yakima rack system from Little River Trading.

(We had to get an extra set of straps because after hunting around the Freestyle for places to hook the bow and stern tie downs we could only find hookup points under the hood on either side and inside the cargo area.)

We also had to get some paddles. We got the cheapest/longest ones they had at Dick's Sporting Goods. You can apparently spend more than the cost of your boat on high-tech, light weight carbon fiber paddles. Maybe later.

We also had to get some Personal Flotation Devices. We had a couple of nice fishing vest PFDs from way back, but they were probably 20 years old and I figured the foam might have rotted by now. We got some cheap new ones at Dick's. They are pretty uncomfortable around the shoulders and neck, so we will probably be replacing them. (I wanted some that would float you face up if unconscious, but apparently they aren't that common so comfort it is.) We already had a newish puppy PFD for Gracie.

Other suggested accessories are a couple of his and hers dry bags, a waterproof/underwater point-and-shoot camera, and waterproof binoculars. Oh, and some surf shoes. Don't remember where we got ours (somewhere in Florida), but they are very hand for not ruining your regular shoes.

redmondkr's picture

Glad you had good weather.

Glad you had good weather. We had a hailstorm here at Casa Lulu in Karns, the second in as many afternoons. Only pea size here but it could have been annoying out on the water.

R. Neal's picture

Fortunately we got back in

Fortunately we got back in before the storms moved through. Otherwise, the Mrs. would not have been a happy camper, and it would have been the first and last kayak outing.

R. Neal's picture

P.S. One of my biggest

P.S. One of my biggest concerns was getting the thing on and off the top of the car. I seriously considered getting a trailer. But once you figure out a system, it's not that big of a deal at all. At least with two people.

WhitesCreek's picture

You only have to load one end

You only have to load one end at a time. Dragging it a little bit won't kill it. Dragging it a lot might. (It is an Ocean Kayak after all and not one of the better made boats.) It will do fine for years though and the newer ones have competent hull designs.

Two things you don't skimp on (for the future) life jackets and paddles. A real paddlers life jacket will be a joy to you. A good paddle is the same. One thing you'll figure out by having cheap ones is what you don't like and then you can move up to good gear with some experience to guide you. There are great prices at the fall sales.

Now...Don't listen to folks who say to carry it right side up. Keeping the hull shape clean with no warpage will be your greatest challenge. Don't over tighten the straps and use three of them always. One of them must go through some loop on the boat and pass under the vehicle rack for safety.

Welcome to the sport, regardless. You'll love it. It's addicting. It changes how you see the world and the places you visit.

AnonymousInflatablekayaker's picture

Location

Maxey's? Where's that?

R. Neal's picture

In South Knox Co. off Alcoa

In South Knox Co. off Alcoa Highway, on Maloney Rd. at the intersection of Maloney Rd. and Ginn Rd. There used to be a marina there (Maxey's Boat Dock), now it's condos. There's a small park and a boat launch.

P.S. I believe Knox Co. calls it the Maloney Road Park.

AnonymousInflatablekayaker's picture

This

I'll try that place.

I'm sure you know about that boat ramp at the isl home airport (Dickinson island). I like to paddle up to otter island near I jams park.

R. Neal's picture

Yes, used to play and fish

Yes, used to play and fish down there as a kid. We went over there to scout it out the other day. Looks like it's still a great spot. And they've got designated parking for people using the launch.

Anonymous SKB Sis's picture

Phone home the next time that

Phone home the next time that you and the Mrs. take a trek! A good kayak/rafting/paddling jacket is the best. The Mrs. can try mine on and take a spin. Have truck will travel....save the back, call a Sis!

Tamara Shepherd's picture

Recommendations for used canoe retailers?

I dug up this months-old post this morn because I'm giddy with excitement that a friend has given us his old kayak, earmarked for our teenaged Boy Scout.

Meanwhile, the other three of us in the family lack floatation...

I've been cruising the Internet for a used canoe and missed out by just hours last night on a way cool Mad River model with two fold-down seats and a bench, used only twice, for a scant $250.

I plan to contact Play It Again Sports after they open at 10:00, but can any of you offer further recommendations for retailers carrying used canoes (or kayaks)? Thanks!

(P.S.--And since nabbing this kayak, the mister has shared his secret desire for a jon boat. Who knew? Your advice on that potential purchase?)

R. Neal's picture

You're probably already

You're probably already watching Craigslist. Might also check with River Sports Outfitters and Little River Trading to see if they have any or maybe a buy/sell bulletin board.

Jon boats are great because they can go more places and you can float some of the local rivers in more comfort with more stuff.

redmondkr's picture

As soon as I get the transom

As soon as I get the transom repaired in my jon boat, you're welcome to use it.

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