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Obama: Antichrist?Submitted by R. Neal on Mon, 2008/08/04 - 8:36am.
The new McCain ad has reignited a controversy that I completely missed the first time around. There is a growing fundamentalist belief that Obama is the antichrist. They have scriptures to prove it. My favorite "proof" is that he comes from zip code 60606. I am not making that up. And these people are serious. This has apparently been making the rounds for a while. It even has a Snopes page, where the "rumor" is deconstructed in a scholarly manner, with a straight face as if it's something that MIGHT be possible. Now, if someone is unhinged enough to believe in the Antichrist, Armageddon, and the Rapture, it's not much of a leap to conclude that Obama is The One. And that's exactly what analysts say the McCain ad is about. If you tune your lizard brain to the right frequency and study the ad, you can hear Karl Rove's dog whistle. It is carefully engineered to trigger deep-rooted, pathological fears and hatred implanted through years of religious indoctrination and programming. It has all the code words and imagery. It's not even that subtle, but I guess you can't be too subtle with the intended audience. It's hard to say what's more ridiculous -- that people believe this stuff, or that McCain would target these voters and welcome them as his core constituency. But I guess you have to dance with who brung you. It might backfire, though. Because when the Antichrist appears, there will be 42 months of peace, 42 months of war, and then the Rapture (or something like that, I have a hard time following). And this is exactly what some Believers want. In their mind, a vote for Obama is a vote for the Rapture so we can all go to Heaven. OK, then. ( categories: )
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Wow! I said it would only get worse. Dang, what the heck are these people doing?
When listening to Air America yesterday, they were talking about how Obama was being called the Antichrist. I had no idea what they were talking about. I tend to not pay attention to the McCain campaign. I guess now it is oh so important to know thy enemy?
Well, can you prove he's NOT the anti-christ? OK, then.
is not the Anti-Christ? OK, then.
This knife cuts both ways. McCain is using the exact tactics I would expect the Anti-Christ to use, promising to protect all the knuckleheads that believe this drivel from the scawey bwack man. Go back to sweep wittle children...the big bad Democrat won't get you while McCain is on the job...
right...
This ad just like the others he has put out is just plain stupid. And exactly what he claimed he wouldn't do...negative, down-in-the-mud smear tactics. Talk about your flip-floppers.
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"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"
"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
Can anyone prove he or she is not the incarnation of evil?
I mean, the devil is the father of lies, right? So even if Obama proved somehow that he was not the Antichrist (kind of like proving you are not attracted to the same sex, or proving that you are honest, or proving that you heard a message from God) well, that would just be his deceptive, hypnotic power at work again so we're back to square one.
If there is a spirit of Anti-Christ in the world today, is the spirit that rails against those whom Jesus loves, those whom he came to save, an evil, xenophobic, racist, proud, selfish, nationalist, bellicose, lying spirit that teaches "its ok to bear false witness if it gets our guy elected", "exploit thy neighbor", "judge others and give liberties to yourself", "put down your cross and seek worldly wealth", "return the least of these to their country of origin and build a fence to keep 'em out", "love not thy enemy" and "turn not the other cheek" "be fruitful and multiply - and lay waste to the planet", and finally: "give to Caesar what is God's (the pulpit and place of worship)".
Do any of these things sound familiar?
Lets just face it - there are folks supporting the McCain ticket and people on his ticket who share a common goal with the very people we are fighting in the middle east- an apocalyptic desire to set up a theocracy of religious fanatics who want to get into government in order to dismantle it, who believe that the worse things are in the world, the closer we are to God's triumphant return.
Perhaps the Anti-Christ is much closer to these people than they realize.
But first, let me address the email stating that John the Revelator proclaims the antichrist to be a Muslim man in his 40's. This is adding something to John's revelation that isn't recorded. It is a very serious thing someone has done. Perhaps this person is an unbeliever. In any event, John does say that all the plagues in his revelation will be heaped on the head of anyone who adds to his words. Rev. 22:18, For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophesy of this book,, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
If you receive the Obama antichrist email, delete it. Do not send it on. John foresaw our day and he knew his words would be twisted.
John does not even use the term antichrist to describe this leader. He does say we can count the name of the second beast and it will be 666. John was refering to the Hebrew Gematra, ( I may be spelling this incorrectly) a form of numerology used by Hebrews in which each letter is given a numerical value.
What is interesting about this is that Obama's name comes nowhere near 666....
But George Bush does equal 666. This is the only method John gives us for recognizing the second beast.
Obama has more to fear from Wall Street than Crazy Street. He might want to ixnay on the taxay. He should have a twenty point lead. It is what he says that makes this a competitive race. Crazy fundamentalists are not the key problem. Hard working people that want to keep their money are Obama's nightmare.
So, you haven't read his tax plan, because if you had you wouldn't say this. Oh, wait. We're talking about "gonna get a subpoena" boy, so misdirection, willful ignorance and misrepresentation are all different types of truthiness. [expects lame insult from Phallacious Pharoah of Pharragut and some other misrepresentation, etc. Yawn]
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
So, you haven't read his tax plan, because if you had you wouldn't say this.
Karnack the Magnificent doesn't even know Obama's tax plan is. Neither does Obama. It changes daily depending on who he is pandering.
Do you listen to the man? Flip flop doesn't begin to describe it. He makes John McCain and John Kerry look like Socrates. Obama changes course from morning to afternoon. How it is possible to know what his "plan" is?
Since you know the man so well, what is his stance on off shore oil drilling this second?
How many worn out GOP talking points can our dear readers spot? I'll start: "The Flip-flop."
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Approved GOP talking point: Democrats pander; Republicans represent.
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Just saw a poll that says Obama has a 30 point lead among working class people.
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Obama is probably receiving a euphoric bounce as the working class have finally realized that the solution to all their problems lie with a tune up and a few pounds of air added to their tires.
Sorry, working people aren't as stupid as this comment suggests you are.
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I remember when Ronald Wilson Reagan (6, 6, 6 letters) was the antichrist. Dumbya had a shot too.
But if Obama's really the antichrist he's going to win anyway, right? And if he's not (my pet theory), these poor people are being played by some evil, manipulative jerks who are taking advantage of their superstitions. In either event, they might as well vote for him.
Unless they're rich and hate their grandchildren, in which by all means vote for McCain.
But if Obama's really the antichrist he's going to win anyway, right?
If Obama is the antichrist, shouldn't fundies be supporting him? Aren't they supposed to be wishing for Armageddon etc.?
these poor people are being played by some evil, manipulative jerks who are taking advantage of their superstitions
Yes. Or another way to put it, McCain is mocking their faith and using it in a cynical attempt to gain political leverage.
Or, more simply put, he's a Republican.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Obama's not the anti-Christ.....he's just anti-American. Any politician who subscribes to arbitrarily taking money from a corporation (oil company) under the guise of "wind fall profits tax" and giving it to the masses in the form of an "energy rebate" is un-American and a socialist, plain and simple.
He will lose this election in a landslide.
But taking taxes from American citizens and transferring those taxes via corporate subsidies is not Anti-American? Also, don't put yourself into the # 9 league. Stop using words of which you don't know the meaning
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Since virtually all polls have it a dead heat overall, McCain must really be leading the non-working class people. Who are they?
OK, Metulj:
He (Obama) will lose this election by a whole bunch.
I agree. I think he will lose by a whole bunch. The GOP have only begun calling him a white woman raping, uppity, Anti-Christ, socialist, thieving Muslim coon. How much longer till they trot out his illegitimate children born of his Satanic child rape club that he was introduced to by Hillary Clinton? This stuff plays well with the strongly pro-America types, I hear.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
I do appreciate your fine snarkiness.
Thank you for the fine lines.
Although I must say, you are casting pearls before swine by responding to our resident troll.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
I agree. I think he will lose by a whole bunch. The GOP have only begun calling him a white woman raping, uppity, Anti-Christ, socialist, thieving Muslim coon. How much longer till they trot out his illegitimate children born of his Satanic child rape club that he was introduced to by Hillary Clinton?
The literature for Prozac mentions complications. If taking Prozac and you notice slobbering of the mouth, delusions, voices, and Satanic images, consult your Doctor immediately.
I'm praying for ya buddy.
People who say, "I'm praying for you," in an argument, aren't. They're using their religion as a put-down. WWJD? Not this.
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I was raised in a fundamentalist denomination and Obama=antichrist is exactly the message I thought McCain was trying to push when I saw that ad. He's appealing to the crazies in his party.
And the attack is well coordinated with the author of "The Late Great Planet Earth" ( the precursor to the Left Behind idiocy by Lahaye) already getting up and announcing Obama as the evil one.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
He has very socialistic ideas........when it fits well with the audience. He's prone to flip and flop though (e.g., wire tapping and off shore drilling). I've not read about the white woman raping, uppity, Anti-Christ, thieving Muslim coon stuff. Karl Rove, right? He's the liberal anti-Christ.
If not, Karl, who said this stuff? "The GOP" is pretty broad.
Don't let me forget 1950s-esque Red baiting. You really are eaten up with the Dittohead, ain't ya?
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
No. I'm just not as smart and sophisticated as my liberal friends who, when losing an argument, accuse their opponent of being a Dittohead or a Rush or Hannity or O'Reilly follower, which I guess is the same thing. Is Rush the Dittohead?
Don't assume things.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
I've listened to comedian Limbaugh's continued referral to Obama as the "Messiah" and have wondered if it will broaden into a GOP-wide caricaturization. Maybe so.
Brian A.
I'd rather be cycling.
Limbaugh calls Obama the Messiah? Does that mean he's stopped calling him "Barack the Magic Negro"?
Yes, he does (warning, link to Limbaugh).
I believes he still breaks out the "magic negro" song every once in a while.
Brian A.
I'd rather be cycling.
What's effective about these ads is not that they are directed at some sort of mentally challenged class of McCain supporters, but that they are designed instead to provoke uproar on the internet, and best yet, coverage on the evening news. The ad linked here is one minute, fourteen seconds long. It will never run as a purchased spot in any television market. It is, however, primed to be excerpted for inclusion in the evening news, accompanied with breathless commentary. Ultimately that just diverts coverage from real issues to the horse race, and (for free!) redistributes the silly concepts in the ad to a whole bunch of people who don't even know how to work the internets in the first place.
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It's true that Obama is the Anti-Christ. It's pretty much a well known fact by now. I think I've figured out a plan for Jesus:
So, you tell Jesus what to do? Awesome!
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
True story: 2-3 months ago a coworker told me he got a phone call from his accountant (or something of that nature) who warned him not to vote for Obama because Obama is the antichrist. I had not heard that before. We laughed.
Wouldn't the antichrist choose a more "unnerving" appearance for that audience, oh--I don't know--maybe... a smirking white man? And choose a more WASPy name like--say, maybe... "George"? Seriously. Oh wait.
Come to think of it, the antichrist would probably tell the current prez: Mission Accomplished!!
Call Obama whatever you want..right now
Because next year we will be calling him
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Obama cannot win more than 44% of the vote. McCain's win will range from "sound" to a landslide. (And McCain is a weak candidate!) I believe Hillary would have won. Biden too. The dumbass Demo's are going to nominate THE most liberal major party candidate EVER. THE most radical. I don't believe we're ready for socialism no matter how pissed people are at GW.
The good news is that most GOP-ers don't believe he's the antichrist. So at least he's got that going for him.
But you are ready for socialism. If you are not, then why are you not calling for an end to corporate welfare?
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
But you are ready for socialism. If you are not, then why are you not calling for an end to corporate welfare?
of the week. Nice.
Since our government considers, by de jure and de facto, corporations to be individuals, or at least, to have some of the same rights and expectations of individuals, then government subsidies are exactly the same as food stamps, medicare/caid, etc.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Maybe but I think Obama's going to win.
Why? In my opinion:
1.The we will not vote for Obama because he's a:
Muslem/socialist/antiAmerican/radical/uppitybrother bad rap thats out there will do damage but will not cost him the election.
2.Electorial Map:
A.Obama will hold the Gore/Kerry states.
B.I like our chances in Va but a Virginia on either ticket could be the deciding factor.Ga,NC a little tougher but Obama in the hunt.
C.Ohio..the big dog swing state..Gone with every winner since '60.Obama wins here & it's close...
Finally,if Tn goes Obama..well that would be something.
Not now. Obama hurt himself badly with his mumblings on raising taxes and not drilling for oil. Only to be followed by reversing his course. Obama has hurt Obama much more than McCain could or can.
This is actually an Obama versus Obama election. Only Obama can keep Obama out of the White House.
Wait. He said he was raising taxes? On whom?
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
"This is actually an Obama versus Obama election. Only Obama can keep Obama out of the White House."
By far the smartest thing I have ever read on this blog.
This whole socialism trope is silly. Was FDR a socialist? According to the GOP know-nothings, yes. I'm sure you wingnut guys all said that Bill Clinton was a socialist.
It would be really helpful if you learned what the word actually means. Hint: It's not taxation and government regulation of the marketplace, not even some small income redistributions, which happen all the time, just from middle class to rich under Republicans.
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It's clear from a close reading of his two books that he's a firm believer in class envy. He assumes the economy is a fixed pie, whereby the successful only get rich at the expense of the poor.
Following this discredited Marxist model, he believes government must step in and redistribute pieces of the pie. That requires massive transfers of wealth through government taxing and spending, a return to the entitlement days of old.
Of course, Obama is too smart to try to smuggle such hoary collectivist garbage through the front door. He's disguising the wealth transfers as "investments" — "to make America more competitive," he says, or "that give us a fighting chance," whatever that means.
Among his proposed "investments":
• "Universal," "guaranteed" health care.
• "Free" college tuition.
• "Universal national service" (a la Havana).
• "Universal 401(k)s" (in which the government would match contributions made by "low- and moderate-income families").
• "Free" job training (even for criminals).
• "Wage insurance" (to supplement dislocated union workers' old income levels).
• "Free" child care and "universal" preschool.
• More subsidized public housing.
• A fatter earned income tax credit for "working poor."
• And even a Global Poverty Act that amounts to a Marshall Plan for the Third World, first and foremost Africa.
His new New Deal also guarantees a "living wage," with a $10 minimum wage indexed to inflation; and "fair trade" and "fair labor practices," with breaks for "patriot employers" who cow-tow to unions, and sticks for "nonpatriot" companies that don't.
That's just for starters — first-term stuff.
Obama doesn't stop with socialized health care. He wants to socialize your entire human resources department — from payrolls to pensions. His social-microengineering even extends to mandating all employers provide seven paid sick days per year to salary and hourly workers alike.
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Unfortunately, Obama has not proposed "universal" "guaranteed" "socialized" health care.
Anyway, all these things you list are signs that he's the Antichrist? Where does it list all that stuff in the Bible?
And if he is the Antichrist, won't he take over the world and destroy it (or whatever is supposed to happen) whether we elect him or not?
And if he is the Antichrist, won't he take over the world and destroy it (or whatever is supposed to happen) whether we elect him or not?
Hah! Yeah, if he's the Antichrist it won't matter if he's President or not and I guess we won't matter soon enough.
No doubt you're stupid enough to also think that public schools are socialist. Read too much Ayn Rand when young and actually found her books credible despite their completely stilted dialog and transparently contrived plots.
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The dumbass Demo's are going to nominate THE most liberal major party candidate EVER. THE most radical.
Really? More liberal than George McGovern?
Look, in some ways (e.g., health care) Hillary is more liberal than Obama.
I like a discussion with an intelligent conservative (e.g., CBT) but you're an elephant of a completely different color.
And swiftboaters and other smear'n'fearmongers like Rove, T. Boone Pickens, the antichrist purveyors, etc.
But I agree with you; McCain can't win on his own merits.
Usually, but they have no use for consistency, truth, or accuracy. Sometimes they say he was a conservative free marketer.
Well, that didn't take long:
And this is funny:
(WAIT FOR IT...)
Isn't it odd that every Dem candidate for president always has the most liberal record? Ha ha. We can wish.
Let's all be clear too: McCain flipped 180 degrees on offshore oil drilling. And took huge donations from the oil industry, some possibly just before he flipped.
Obama has stated that he is willing to consider SOME offshore drilling as part of an overall energy policy, and mostly to compromise with Congress (hey, that's novel!) in order to get an effective, real policy that will transition us off oil sooner.
Obama speaks frankly in his stump speeches about the reason for his compromise and even warns new drilling won't do any good in bringing gas prices down. It's just a bargaining chip and he's willing to say so.
McCain claims new drilling is going to do everything we wish it will. That and some pixie dust.
"Really? More liberal than George McGovern?" Yes.
"Bill Clinton a socialist?" No.
"Obama a socialist?" Yes, if not, very close. Certainly radical.
"The American electorate?" Somewhat conservative. That's why Repubs have won 7 or the last 10 Presidential elections.
Go Barrack! You da man!!!
It really infuriates # 9 that you are allowed a login and he isn't. You two could be a tag team of ridiculous assertions.
McGovern was way more liberal than Obama. You'd never hear "Drill for oil" come across that guy's lips. You are right. Clinton wasn't a socialist (nor is his wife). He's probably the most conservative president since Eisenhower based on policies alone (fiscal policy, war on the poor, war on drugs, etc.). Obama is a socialist and/or a radical? Again, stop using words you don't know the meaning to. See my comment about #9 and you getting a room. As for the American electorate, it isn't conservative, but poorly informed and likes to elect charismatic people of dubious moral character (Reagan, W, and Clinton).
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
It really infuriates # 9 that you are allowed a login and he isn't.
That is a tell. Are you infuriated Butterfly?
IIRC, you called it a "Stalinist" purge. Since you are still here, would you repudiate that term? Because if it truly were a Stalinist purge, you would have been sent to the gulag and/or shot. It is an insult to the millions of people who suffered at Stalin's hands that you consider being kicked off blog for being a tool akin to state terror.*
*It is also a "tell" into the fevered imaginations and desires of the wingnut mind.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
IIRC, you called it a "Stalinist" purge. I may have coined the phrase but a lot of people used it. When it comes to rhetoric it is tough to beat you and rikki. But I try.
Ever time you say "wingnut" an Angel gets its wings.
Coined the phrase? The vocabulary lessons are going to need to start at an even lower level than I thought.
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Did you know that no where in the bible does it mention angels having wings.
A liberal like you met referring to W as "charismatic?!" I like him and there are a lot of adjectives I'd use to describe the man....charismatic isn't one of them.
I guess the American electorate is easy to fool.....most of the time? Poorly informed? If a voter cannot see Obama as a socialist (or near socialist) then I agree that he/she is poorly informed.
Don't follow the #9 stuff. Who's #9?
If a voter cannot see Obama as a socialist then I agree that he/she is poorly informed.
If that were true, you would be able to supply a list of quotes from Obama, votes he has cast, position statements from his website, etc. showing him to be a socialist. Inform us.
Who's #9?
Pre purge, Number9 used to post here.
Link...
Post purge he only comments here.
He has a TV station on YouTube called Channel 9. People in local government love it.
Link...
Doesn't get a gold star for playing well with far left liberal extremists.
far left liberal extremists? Where? Haven't seen any of those in a long time, unless you're using BillO's definition, which means anyone left of Joe Lieberman.
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Here's one:
Obama has arbitrarily decided that $11.8BB Exxon Mobile profits were too much last quarter. He has declared that oil company profits are out of line generally. Therefore, he proposes an unconstitutional tax on oil companies that he wants to give to the masses in the form of a $1000 energy credit. He wants to take property (dollars) from these American companies that employ millions of Americans and re-distribute it to the masses because..........he says so.
That, my dear Rikki, is clearly Marxist socialism plain and simple. It doesn't matter how many libs like metulj tell me I don't know what socialism is.
Who's to say that next quarter Obama doesn't decide that Procter & Gamble's profits are out of line and re-distribute some of those in the form of a consumer-goods credit or how about Microsoft? You you get a.........software-technology credit compliments of the great one.
This is dangerous. And pandering.
That is neither unconstitutional nor socialist. Excise taxes on oil, minerals and other natural resources have been part of the American economy for as long as there has been an America, as have windfall taxes. Since oil leases typically base the tax on volume, not price, a windfall tax is the normal mechanism by which the owners of the resource share in profits caused by a rise in the commodity price.
If a windfall tax is socialist, this country has been socialist for a long time.
Given all the socialist road building and socialist wars the oil companies have benefited from, I would think they'd be happy to share a sliver of the windfall the shrinking dollar has brought to their coffers. The oil companies did nothing to create windfall profits; in fact, Republicans did all the work. They deregulated mortgage lending and crashed banks and pinned the U.S. to grossly expensive occupations, turned us into a beast that tortures human beings and eroded the worth of our currency. Why aren't you guys willing to share the fruits of your labors?
Because they're Republicans. The proud, the arrogant, the not so few (but still smaller tent).
Marxist socialism. Check your facts, Rikki. You don't have a clue what a "wind fall profit" is. The oil companies profits don't even come close to the definition. You obviously don't have a clue how American corporations work either.
Check your facts, Factchecker. Seven (7) of the last ten (10) presidential elections (smaller tent????). They're about to make it 8 of 11 with a shitty candidate because of the dumbass donkeys nominating an extreme liberal with marxist socialist tendencies. Obama plays well with MSNBC and idiots like Keith Oberman and Chris Mathews. Unfortunately, the white steel workers in Pennsylvania and white coal miners in West Virginia and the white auto workers in Michigan and Ohio aren't real cool with those tendencies. But we shall see..........
At least there are plenty of us arrogant republicans who don't think Obama is the antichrist.
Unfortunately, the white steel workers in Pennsylvania and white coal miners in West Virginia and the white auto workers in Michigan and Ohio aren't real cool with those tendencies.
Hmmm, the polls show Obama is leading among working class whites by 10%. Guess they like that far left socialist Marxism after all.
Check your facts, Rikki. You don't have a clue what a "wind fall profit" is. The oil companies profits don't even come close to the definition.
You are the one who has to prove his point, not me. You said an informed voter would find Obama to be a socialist, clearly implying that there is solid information available showing that to be the case. So far you have supplied a single piece of evidence that does not even prove your point, and you have demonstrated that you do not know who would pay a windfall tax, what they would pay it on, and that you can't even spell it properly as one word.
[sigh]
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He was always admonishing people to be charitable to the poor.
Or was he a Marxist?
Jesus was definitely a socialist. Karl Marx was way too enchanted with market forces and is often misunderstood. Any wingnuts who actually read his works would know that and not misuse him as an example.
And Spit Cup keeps slinging socialist around like its a bad thing. I bet he will refuse Social Security when he retires because it's socialist. I bet he also refuses company paid health care, vacation, retirement, and all the other benefits those damn socialist unions won for the common man.
No way he'd feed at the socialist trough. It's just too repugnant to even consider for that old over the hill golfer wannabe, Spin Cup.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
Why are you even concerned about what Jesus was?
I didn't say racist, but maybe I should have thought about the GOP base you seem to represent.
Your wisdom and popularity here continue to flourish.
• Place all ingredients in a mixer (except the pie shells) and mix slowly until everything is combined. Mix on high for a few minutes until there are very few lumps left.
Prebake two pie shells for 7 minutes at 350ºF with convection on.
• Fill the shells all the way to the top and bake at 350ºF with convection on for 1 hour.
• The pies should not jiggle very much when you take them out of the oven. Let them cool, then cover and put in fridge to chill before serving.
Makes two pies
This is a vegan recipe.
I only post this because the ongoing discussion with TinCup seems to be going around in never-ending circles.
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Awesome! Pie.
There is nothing scientific about this but I have always thought that a troll would prefer to be called almost anything instead of being ignored.
That's why the pie recipes are so handy.
BTW: Is that vanilla flavored soy milk?
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Just regular soy milk...but the vanilla would be fine I think...adds a bit of sweetness. I also use Splenda cause I'm diabetic.
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"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
he's just rabidly anti-American.
I think Obama recognizes the stumbling block to his candidacy is less John McCain, and more his own cultural attitudes, anti-capitalistic goals, and his character.
In my opinion, Obama is a Communist. He long ago took that "one step," as in, “Socialism is one step from communism.” Whatever albatross he's chosen to hang around his neck, whether it be Marxism, communism, or socialism, he is for empowering the “State” or government to dictate the terms of everyday life to the individual.
Just listen to his own words:
"We can't drive our SUVs, and eat as much as we want, and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.
"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen."
It's the "That's not going to happen"-part that is truly chilling. He's clearly telling all Americans that the way we choose to live, the hard work we've done in order to advance ourselves this far, will be subjected to the test of meeting the world's approval, and if our behavior doesn't meet "the world's" and his approval...what then?
This has gone way past the jokes of "inflate your tires to solve the energy crisis," and "I'll be president of these 57 states for the next ten years."
This guy is truly frightening, and I'm worried about the future of my country should this man be elected president.
Banana pudding anyone?
Arrange this delicious banana pudding in a glass serving bowl or individual dessert glasses.
Ingredients:
3/4 cup granulated sugar
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup all-purpose flour
3 cups milk, low fat or whole
3 large egg yolks
3 tablespoons butter, room temperature
2 teaspoons vanilla
vanilla wafer cookies
3 to 4 bananas, ripe but firm
sweetened whipped cream or whipped topping
banana slices for garnish
mint sprigs, optional
Preparation:
In a bowl, combine the sugar, salt, and flour; stir to blend. Slowly stir in milk until smooth. Pour into the top of a double boiler over simmering water. Cook, whisking frequently, until the mixture begins to thicken.
In a small bowl, whisk the egg yolks; gradually whisk in about 1 cup of the slightly thickened hot milk mixture. Return egg mixture to the double boiler, stir in the vanilla and butter, and continue whisking and cooking until well thickened. Remove from heat and set aside to cool slightly.
In tall dessert glasses or a 2-quart serving dish, make a layer of vanilla wafers then sliced banana. Spoon some of the pudding over the banana layer then layer more vanilla wafers and banana slices, topping with more pudding. Serve with whipped cream topping. If using short dessert dishes, use only one layer each of the wafers, banana slices, and pudding, and then top with a dollop of whipped cream. Garnish each serving with a few slices of banana and a mint sprig if desired.
Serves 6 to 8.
Yummm, banana pudding from scratch!
Get Obama off the teleprompter and his IQ goes down 30 points. Obama is a fraud. At least Clinton had some experience. Why can't democrats give us some to vote for?
Because the conservative media selects our choices of candidates.
"We can't drive our SUVs, and eat as much as we want, and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.
When did "other countries" get a say in what Americans do? Is Obama running for President of the United States or President of Europe?
Maybe he should decide.
I'm on a banana fix as of late...
Elvis Presley's Grilled Peanut Butter
and Banana Sandwich
2 slices of white bread
2 tablespoons of smooth peanut butter
1 small ripe banana mashed
2 tablespoons butter
Spread the peanut butter on one slice of bread and the mashed banana on the other. Press the slices gently together. Melt the butter (or to be truly Elvis-like, melt bacon fat!), over low heat in a small frying pan. Place the sandwich in the pan and fry until golden brown on both sides. Eat it with a glass of buttermilk.
Please note: Elvis tended to eat 12-15 sandwiches a sitting! So belly up!
Is Obama running for President of the United States or President of Europe?
Or perhaps President of the Free World? That was a role we used to take great pride in.
Then W started lying to the UN and ridiculing allies. He turned the U.S. into one of the leading human rights abusers and scapegoated soldiers to evade responsibility. He and the Republican Congress neglected the need for energy policy reform for years, exacerbating the problem instead with incentives for buying SUVs and an ADM-backed corn-ethanol plan. Meanwhile, they deregulated credit and lending markets, falsely propping up the economy for a couple years with bad credit.
Now we depend heavily on "other countries" for oil and "other countries" hold tremendous amounts of U.S. debt, taxpayers are bailing out irresponsible banks billions of dollars at a time, crime is rising, the dollar is plunging and "other countries" have no respect for us.
Personally, I'm happy to see a candidate with leadership skills ready to mend fences and work to return us to the "leader of the free world" status we once enjoyed. It's going to be a long slog, and it is clear W's brigade of idiots remains committed to standing in the way of any and all improvements.
Then W started lying to the UN and ridiculing allies. He turned the U.S. into ...yadda, yadda, yadda ad infinitum.
Ah, glad to see the triple pillars of leftism are still alive and well! What would the BDS® crowd do without projection, victimhood, and conspiracy?
Let me ask you, what kind of tinfoil do you use in your hat, and how effective do you find it to be in deflecting Bush's psychotronic mind-control rays?
Is Obama running for President of the United States or President of Europe?
That is a great question. At least someone gets it.
At least someone gets it.
If by "gets it" you mean "can't think outside his tiny ideological box."
the tired old platitude about "thinking outside the box" doesn't have enough intellectual capacity to realize he is the box.
We have tons of tomatoes right now. I'm rediscovering the joys of toasted tomato and cheese sandwiches.
Yum.
BO did say he was not an American running for president, instead he was addressing people as a "citizen of the world."
Shades of professional Vietnam veteran John Kerry's "French litmus test for America" taken to the nth degree, anyone?
And the reason you didn't know he said that is because Katie, Brian, Tom, and Matt won't allow the One-Man Gaffe Machine® to destroy his own presidential bid. They can't risk the public hearing BO's verbal fumblings, bumblings, ramblings, and Freudian-slips because it would interrupt their liberal propaganda holding him up.
To get the facts, to hear the clips, to see the videos, you've got to go to talk radio or the internet. Y'know, it's those pesky truth-tellers the Left can't stand because they can't force their pablum on anyone in the free and open marketplace of ideas.
He went to China talking about their abuse of human rights, while at the same time, if he had the chance the prisoners in Guantanamo would be locked up forever without a trial.
Attention trolls: Please attribute all smears.
Wow! Somebody thinks as stupidly as you do. That must be comforting.
I love peanut butter, bananas, and both together too. But I think I'll just stick to a good wheat bread with crunchy PB with bananas sliced in. Add a little of your favorite jelly or jam as glue. I like something like rasberry or boysenberry jam.
I can't find an organic PB that comes close to tasting as good as Kroger Natural. The best I've found is Arrowhead Mills, but it's still not as good as K-Roger's. Can anyone recommend one? (Peanuts get a lot of pesticides.)
My grandmother used to make me a sandwich w/peanut butter, banana, apple slices and raisins on white bread. Yummy.
I guess it's a "smear" when it's citing a leftist's own words.
When it's forging documents about Bush? Eh, it's "true even though it's false."
Got it.
When the only tool you are is a chakra hammer, everything your forehead hits feels pretty much like a nail.
Oh, and my blackberries from the back yard are delicious on morning cereal.
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For the Filling:
For the Crumb Topping:
• Preheat the oven to 375 degrees F.
• Place the filling ingredients in a large bowl and stir well, making sure the pears are evenly coated with the cinnamon. Transfer the mixture to the pie crust.
• For the topping, crumble together the sugar, flour and margarine. Add small amounts of flour, if necessary, until small crumbs form. Sprinkle the crumbs over the pie, covering completely.
• Bake at 375 degrees F for 10 minutes. Reduce the oven temperature to 325 degrees F and bake for about 30 more minutes, or until the crumb topping is golden brown and the pears and cranberries are soft (test with a toothpick). Let cool for at least 1 hour before serving.
Makes 8 servings
This is a vegan recipe.
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"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
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"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"
"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
I’m really not too concerned with identifying the taxonomic variants of BO’s social-engineering goals. What is ultimately a toxic feature common to them all: coercive utopianism.
As the German resistance posters put it during the 30s referring to the choice between Nazi Socialism vs Stalin’s Communism, “Spuds or Potatoes?”
This isn’t about definitions, it’s about a gut check. We’re asking if Obama’s thinking falls right in line with coercive utopian ideologies that were found to be very destructive in the 20th century. That century alone saw the slaughter of more than 100 million people due to the religion of secular humanism/social Darwinism/philosophical naturalism/communism/Marxism/fascism/whatever.
Ironically, this fanatical devotion to secularism and self was the undergirding principle which caused more deaths than all the so-called “mainstream religious” wars in the history of mankind combined.
THIS IS NOT A VEGAN RECIPE
INGREDIENTS (Nutrition)
* 6 cups semolina flour
* 7 cups white sugar
* 1 1/2 tablespoons ground cardamom
* 1/2 cup ghee (clarified butter)
* 1/3 cup cashew nuts
* 1 cup hot milk
DIRECTIONS
1. Heat a large dry skillet over medium to medium-high heat. Add the semolina, and toast, stirring constantly. Stir in the sugar and cardamom while toasting until light brown and fragrant, about 10 minutes.
2. Heat a small amount of the ghee in a separate skillet over medium heat. Add the cashews, and cook until lightly toasted, about 10 minutes. Add the cashews to the semolina along with the remaining ghee. Gradually stir hot milk into the semolina until it is thick enough to pack into a ball. Remove from heat, and form palm-sized balls. Let cool and serve.
Very sweet. Not diabetic friendly.
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"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"
"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
secular humanism/social Darwinism/philosophical naturalism/communism/Marxism/fascism/whatever
In other words, you're going to say whatever you want about him without any regard for context or meaning.
Not bad, but I have an even better example of a Republican propagandist trying to stand reality on its head. Yesterday Thomas Sowell wrote a column blaming "the media" for ruining Stephen Hatfill's reputation, not the Bush DOJ that leaked Hatfill's name and had to pay him $5 million in reparations, not the Bush DOJ that was trying to steer the investigation toward an Arab perp, but the media. He even mentioned in the column that the government was forced to pay $5 million for the leak, which shows that he knows his audience well enough to realize conservatives have no discernible capacity for critical thought.
is like Kryptonite in this place. Nice shot.
See you made rikki and Randy flinch.
INGREDIENTS
* 1 (9 inch) pastry for a 9 inch single crust pie
* 1 1/2 cups white sugar
* 3 1/2 tablespoons cocoa
* 1/2 cup butter, melted
* 1 (5 ounce) can evaporated milk
* 2 eggs, beaten
* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
* 3/4 cup chopped pecans
DIRECTIONS
1. Preheat oven to 400 degrees F (200 degrees C)
2. Mix together sugar, cocoa, and melted butter. Stir in evaporated milk, beaten eggs, vanilla, and chopped pecans.
3. Pour nut mixture into unbaked pie shell. Bake for 10 minutes. Reduce heat to 325 degrees F (165 degrees C) and bake for 30 minutes.
NOT vegan. Not Diabetic-friendly. Sinful, decadent, and exactly what you dream of.
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"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"
"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
the religion of secular humanism/social Darwinism/philosophical naturalism/communism/Marxism/fascism
Ya left out New Urbanism. You really should consult #9 on that.
That century alone saw the slaughter of more than 100 million people due to the religion of secular humanism...
You have a really good point here. Compared to 100 million dead, 4,500 Americans is nothing. And 100,000 Iraqis, who cares? We'd have to stay there 100 years like McCain says to catch up to the bad guys.
The relatively small numbers of dead and maimed Americans prove the war has been well managed, and it was clearly the highest and best use of those trillion tax dollars, even the missing billions. Who cares about 8 or 9 billion dollars missing? Obviously not McCain, so why should anyone care? It's hardly enough to bail out a bank.
Uh-oh, someone else read Jonah Goldberg's book.
Oh, wait. It's a cut-and-paste from here.
Old Digit's been sending this whole thread around to his buddies from Free Republic it seems. Yawn.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Looks like I need to read Jonah Goldberg.
It comes highly recommended.
Well, you'd be in great company. A poorly read, poorly educated person dipping in a bran tub of poorly read, poorly educated dreck meant not as a history so much as a another plank in the justification to kill as many liberals as possible.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Well, you'd be in great company. A poorly read, poorly educated person dipping in a bran tub of poorly read, poorly educated dreck meant not as a history so much as a another plank in the justification to kill as many liberals as possible.
Whoa, easy there. No one suggested any justification for doing anything.
Still hung over? That is unusual even for you.
No one suggested any justification for doing anything
You may not have suggested any killing, but you don't have to. You've got thugs like Ann Coulter and Mark Levin to do your dirty work, anonymous emails calling a Presidential candidate the anti-Christ.
Do you ever say "Whoa, easy there" to your thugs? No, you encourage them. chakra comes here ands associates Obama with the murder of 100 million people, and you egg him on. Guess who actually got murdered in Knoxville: liberals. As usual, the political right has blown off any examination of their role in the tragedy, though I have heard a few Unitarian jokes from righties.
It is the silent assent of conservative/Republican/Libertarian/whatever that is their most disgraceful character. Silence in the face of torture, silence in the face of lies, silence in the face of politicized justice, silence in the face abused executive privilege, silence in the face of reality. It's either smug, dismissive talking points, or graceless silence from the shriveled moral core of a conservative movement that has America plunging into economic collapse with its safety nets badly frayed.
You've had years to wake up and get on the right side of the truth, but you prefer feeding on chakra's regurgitated propaganda because identity politics is more important to you than principle. All of you conservatives who won't take a stand when one of your own crosses a line are a disgrace.
It is the silent assent of conservative/Repu