Mon
Mar 3 2008
09:26 pm
Hillary Prefers McCain to Obama
By: rocketsquirrel

talk about a kitchen sink mentality: (via CBS)

Hillary prefers McCain to Obama.

"Hillary Clinton told reporters that both she and the presumptive Republican nominee John McCain offer the experience to be ready to tackle any crisis facing the country under their watch, but Barack Obama simply offers more rhetoric.

“I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say,” she said. “He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002.”

Clinton was referring to Obama’s anti-war speech he delivered in Chicago before entering the United States Senate."

Sheez.

jmcnair's picture

I feel better about voting

Submitted by jmcnair on Mon, 2008/03/03 - 11:09pm.

I feel better about voting for Obama now.

Rachel's picture

ok, that isn't Hillary

Submitted by Rachel on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 12:07am.

ok, that isn't Hillary saying she "prefers" McCain. That's Hillary pointing out something that McCain will use against Obama, and hoping you believe it's a reason she's a better candidate.

Obama says she's part of the Washington establishment; she says he's inexperienced.

Big deal.

Andy Axel's picture

Sheez. Sheez indeed. Both

Submitted by Andy Axel on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 12:07am.

Sheez.

Sheez indeed.

Both McCain and Clinton have more experience in elected office than Obama does. This is news?

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Mykhailo's picture

This is news? Big

Submitted by Mykhailo on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 1:35am.

This is news?

Big deal.

Obama's almost surely going to get the nomination. And her vigorous support of him this fall would be very helpful. But she just threw her support to his opponent on Obama's biggest weakness.

Rachel's picture

But she just threw her

Submitted by Rachel on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 1:46pm.

But she just threw her support to his opponent on Obama's biggest weakness.

Oh bull. She's running against Obama - should she not attack his "biggest weakness?"

And anybody who think she won't be out campaigning vigourously for Obama this fall is just nuts.

BTW, suppose Hillary was the one involved in the brouhaha with the Canadian govt on NAFTA. Would we be hearing howls from Obama supporters? Be honest, now.

Sarge's picture

While acknowledging McCain

Submitted by Sarge on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 2:43pm.

While acknowledging McCain longevity in the U.S. Senate, I somewhat puzzled about Senator Clinton experience in public office other than 3 years or so more experience as a U.S. Senator than Senator Obama. Unless you are talking about her experience as President Clintons wife for the 8 years he was POTUS, the failed universal healthcare proposal, travelgate, whitewater, etc.

Bbeanster's picture

Wonder what Joe Biden and

Submitted by Bbeanster on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 2:51pm.

Wonder what Joe Biden and Bill Richardson think of Hillary's claims of vast experience?

Andy Axel's picture

Ask them why neither of them

Submitted by Andy Axel on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 4:24pm.

And go on and ask why neither of them could win a single state primary in their candidacies while you're at it.

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Average Guy's picture

Why?

Submitted by Average Guy on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 4:36pm.

Because neither of them were married to Bill.

Bbeanster's picture

And go on and ask why

Submitted by Bbeanster on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 4:56pm.

And go on and ask why neither of them could win a single state primary in their candidacies while you're at it.

Uh, speaking of playing dumb -- May I have "Maybe because the voters weren't all that impressed with the 'experience' argument" for $20, please?

DT's picture

Experience in serving tea and crumpets

Submitted by DT (not verified) on Fri, 2008/03/07 - 4:28pm.

I still don't get this argument? Do you people believe all these talking points?

Just because my wife has worked the front office of my dental practice for 12 years, doesn't mean she's qualified to do a root canal.

Years in elected public office:
Obama: 11 years
Hillary: 6 years

I know I wasn't there but Abraham Lincoln was in elected office for 2 years before becoming president and he seemed to have done some fairly positive things for this country...

Exileonymous's picture

Not true

Submitted by Exileonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2008/03/27 - 2:33pm.

Obama's time in the Illinois legislature, coupled with his Senate time gives him more elected official experience than Hillary has.

Obama was first elected to public office in '97. Hillary in '01

Yellow Dog's picture

Rachel Maddow on

Submitted by Yellow Dog on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 1:21am.

Rachel Maddow on Countdown:

"That's what you say when you want to be John McCain's Vice Presidential choice. That's not what you say when you are trying to become the democratic nominee for president."

Bbeanster's picture

Rachel, none of these

Submitted by Bbeanster on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 2:02pm.

Rachel, none of these candidates are Ivory Soap pure. But Hillary's campaign went nuclear on Obama weeks, maybe months, ago. It was Clinton supporters who unleashed the specter of "islamofacism" by releasing the earliest "Barack Housein Obama" emails (in New hampshire) and robocalls (in Nevada).

And it's Hillary who has been talking about Obama's ties to Tony Rezco every time she gets a chance.

If Obama has brought up, say, Norman Hsu ((link...)), or Marc Rich ((link...)), I haven't seen it.

When Clinton's people say they're employing a "kitchen sink" strategy, they aren't thinking about cleaning out the garbage disposal. They better think about what's fixing to blow back in their faces.

Rachel's picture

I believe I asked about

Submitted by Rachel on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 2:20pm.

I believe I asked about NAFTA and the Canadian govt. Nice misdirection there, but no answer to my question.

If a memo had been found basically saying that the Canadian govt didn't need to worry about what Hillary said about NAFTA, Obama supporters would be squealing like stuck pigs. Wouldn't you?

Interestingly, I haven't heard Hillary supporters talk about it much - at least on here or on the blab.

And come on Bean - you're describing Hillary's campaign as nuclear? You've been around the block enough times to know what real nuclear looks like.

Anyway, I'm mostly just messing with ya'll. I'm pretty much to the point where I don't care who wins as long as it's not McCain.

Bbeanster's picture

It is the Clinton campaign

Submitted by Bbeanster on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 2:29pm.

It is the Clinton campaign that plucked the Muslim falsehood up from the rightwing blogosphere (and email-sphere) and brought it into primetime media. If playing that card isn't nuclear, I don't want to know what is -- maybe the crazy drug-addled queen who claims he had an affair with Obama?

Andy Axel's picture

It is the Clinton campaign

Submitted by Andy Axel on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 4:31pm.

It is the Clinton campaign that plucked the Muslim falsehood up from the rightwing blogosphere

Yeah, if you believe the word of Matt Drudge.

If playing that card isn't nuclear, I don't want to know what is

I suspect you'll find out soon enough what nuclear looks like - indications are that it's open season on Obama now.

Now, as far as not knowing what it is, or what it will look like, either you're playing it dumb or you forget that the Mandingo ads against HFJ were run by the national Republican campaign.

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Average Guy's picture

Yeah, if you believe the

Submitted by Average Guy on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 4:38pm.

Yeah, if you believe the word of Matt Drudge

Yeah, because the Clinton's made him look foolish when he broke the Lewinsky story.

Bbeanster's picture

I suspect you'll find out

Submitted by Bbeanster on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 5:41pm.
I suspect you'll find out soon enough what nuclear looks like - indications are that it's open season on Obama now.
Now, as far as not knowing what it is, or what it will look like, either you're playing it dumb or you forget that the Mandingo ads against HFJ were run by the national Republican campaign.

It's been open season on Obama for some time.

The Nevada robocalls were in January-- (link...)

The New Hampshire "Housain" emails in January/February

Had nothing to do with Drudge.

Andy Axel's picture

It's been open season on

Submitted by Andy Axel on Tue, 2008/03/04 - 6:09pm.

It's been open season on Obama for some time.

Really.

Starting with the prime-time, 2-hour long mauling perpetrated by Brian Williams and Tim Russert during the debate in October 2007, I'd say that Obama has gotten a relative pass up until that Hobbs stuff went national last week.

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

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