Ruth's Chris: Not ready for prime time

Submitted by R. Neal on Thu, 2007/12/20 - 9:45am.

We went to Ruth's Chris for our anniversary celebration. Even though I didn't think we'd need one on a Wednesday night, I made a reservation. (You can make them online.) It's a good thing we did. They were packed. The bar was full, there were guests at every table, a banquet room in the back and the one downstairs both had parties.

The restaurant was slammed. Amid the controlled chaos, the staff stayed remarkably composed, but tensions were showing. It affected the service and the food, and not in a good way.

Our visit started out on the wrong foot. They seated us at a table next to the kitchen. It was also on the thruway to the rear banquet room, so there was lots of coming and going. (At Riverside, we always got one of those nice cushioned, romantic booths with a view of the River. Couples can probably forget those now.) Normally I would have asked for another table, but there weren't any. Normally, I would have noticed they were slammed and gone somewhere else. But, this was a special occasion, we had a reservation, and we were there with high expectations.

The service started out great. A helper brought Pelligrino bottled sparkling water (there was another choice, but I don't remember what it was). Our server was professional and charming (and a bit chatty), and said she would make sure we had a wonderful experience.

We ordered a half-bottle of Tattinger Brut. After about fifteen minutes, our server came by to apologize for the delay, and said she was waiting for the manager to get our wine. After about twenty five minutes, the "manager" (there were several) came to our table with two glasses of champagne, compliments of the house. He said that he could not locate what we ordered, apologized profusely, and told a long complicated story about problems with suppliers, distributors, and wholesalers in the area, and that he believed they would have to revise their wine list. Whatever. (Their wine list is quite impressive if you're in to that sort of thing, but now I have to wonder if it's all for show and whether they really have them all).

We asked what kind of champagne he had brought us. He didn't know, and went to find out. He came back and said it was Chandon. It was nice. The glasses had strawberries on top, and they were some of the best strawberries I've ever tasted. The strawberries turned out to be the highlight of the evening.

I don't understand why they didn't just come back and say the wine we ordered was not available this evening and ask if we'd like to order something else. We had thought about getting a full bottle of Moet White Star, which cost almost twice as much as the half-bottle of Tattinger. But we weren't given the opportunity, nor did we get to enjoy our usual ritual of popping the cork and pouring the bubbly and enjoying conversation as we slowly empty the bottle. I should have insisted, but by that point I was just happy to have anything. At least we finally had two glasses of champagne so we could toast the occasion.

(Funny story. The last time we went to Riverside for our anniversary, we ordered a White Star. They were out. We asked what other champagne or sparkling wine they had, and the only thing they could come up with was Asti Spumanti. It was awful. That location must be cursed in terms of wine service.)

Next we ordered from the extensive menu. It all sounded great, and there were some interesting and more adventurous choices such as venison with blackberry sauce making it hard to choose. We both opted for the chef's selection for the evening, which was petit filet with lobster tail. We thought we would go with a more traditional choice, presumably a Ruth's Chris flagship offering that would really show off how great their steaks are.

There were a number of sides, priced from $7 to $12 or so (everything on the menu is priced separately). We couldn't decide so we were each going to each get two so we could sample a variety. Our server talked us out of that, saying they were served "family style", meaning the portions were large. So the Mrs. ordered asparagus with hollandaise and I got broiled tomatoes.

Then we waited. And waited and waited and waited. After an hour and five minutes at the restaurant, all we had been served was bread (the bread is nothing special) and two glasses of champagne. We were finally able to flag down our server and get another glass of champagne for me.

Our dinner finally arrived after we had been there about an hour and twenty minutes. The asparagus was rubbery, tasteless, and had no seasoning. The hollandaise was nothing special. The grilled tomatoes were great. The steaks were a little tough and chewy in places, and undercooked in others. (I ordered mine medium, and it was bloody red in spots near the middle, but no way were we sending anything back -- we were starving by that point). But mainly, the steaks were unremarkable. We grilled better Fresh Market ribeyes at home for some friends last week. I'm not sure what we were expecting, but expectations were not met for what is supposed to be the best steak you can get. The lobster tails were a complete disaster. They were overcooked, hard, and rubbery. (You're not supposed to need a steak knife to cut lobster, are you?) What little flavor they had was fishy and not-so-fresh tasting. Did I mention the grilled tomatoes were pretty good?

Then, about two-thirds of the way through my meal, I noticed it. A hair. Fused onto the rim of my plate in steak juices. (Plates are served at 500 degrees to keep your steak warm. When they say "careful, the plates are hot," they mean it!). I scraped it off and put it on the table. When the server came back by, I told her she could "return this to the chef," pointing to the hair. She couldn't see it (or so it seemed). She bent over, put her finger on it, and wiped it off the table cloth onto the floor, saying "what? where? what is it?". I couldn't believe it. Now I wish I had left it on my plate, but it wasn't very appetizing. I'm sure she thought we were a couple of grifters trying to scam them out of a free meal, but she was professional and apologized profusely.

So we struggled through. I noticed one of the managers apologizing to a couple at the next table. Something about their potatoes au gratin, which is apparently a very complicated dish. A table of four nearby was seated after us and got their food before us. While they were waiting, one of the guys called a manager over, got up, put his arm around him and walked away from the table, leaning in real close to "have a talk" about something. I believe the guest was Hallerin Hilton Hill. Which is probably why they got their dinner pronto (relatively speaking), or maybe it was because of "the talk." We saw Gus and Bill Regas on our way in. I seroiusly doubt they would approve of what went on there last night.

Needless to say, we didn't take home any of the leftovers and we didn't order dessert. We just asked for our check, please.

The manager and server came back to apologize more, saying they were sorry our evening wasn't perfect and that it was certainly not up to Ruth's Chris standards. The server apologized for "ruining" our evening and said she was "almost in tears," and I believe she was sincere. Then the manager said he was comping our entire meal, and hoped that we would give them another chance. I told him I understood they were slammed and they hadn't met our expectations, but that it wasn't necessary to comp our meal. I told him we ordered something, they served it, and I would pay for it. He insisted, and pleaded with us to not judge them by this visit and to give them another chance. I didn't debate it any more. I did leave the server a nice tip. It wasn't her fault.

Anyway, the decor was nice. It's hard to tell what was changed exactly from the Riverside Tavern, and overall the look is similar. There may be new floors and carpet, but I don't remember the old. I believe there are new tables and chairs, and there was new upholstery on the cushioned booths. There was a red neon light running the length of the arched ceiling that I don't remember being there before.

There are a few white sheer curtain panels on the windows facing the river that I don't remember from before. They didn't obstruct the view much, and I guess they added a little something. Maybe they were added to help absorb some of the noise. That place has always been noisy, and it still is.

The major change is a new wine rack that runs the length of the main dining room, separating it from the kitchen/grilling area that used to be open to viewing. This also created new space for adding eight or ten new tables, but it's a little tight and, as I mentioned earlier, there is a lot of foot traffic along there.

They use all white linen tablecloths and napkins, of course. The table tops were lightly padded, and that was a nice touch. Oh, people often wonder about the dress code. It used to be strict, but they have relaxed it. For Knoxville, it's "business casual, no jacket required." We saw plenty of blue jeans, short sleeve polos, and even some t-shirts. In other words, the dress code is "Knoxville".

Prices are as expensive as you've heard. The half-bottle of champagne that we wanted was $62. The White Star would have been $112, I think. The glasses we finally got were, I believe, priced at $10, which actually seemed reasonable. The filet and lobster entrees were $59. Sides were $12 for the asparagus with hollandaise, if I recall correctly, and $7 or $8 for the grilled tomatoes. So our bill for the meal and four glasses of wine would have come to about $178 before tax and tip.

That's not unreasonable for special occasion fine dining, but you expect it to be special and fine and it wasn't. There's a lot of upscale hype and drama, which is reflected in the prices, but the food just doesn't live up, and I'm not sure it would even if everything were perfect. The service, when you could get it, was at least pretty great. And at least they had the decency to comp us. We may give them another chance, but it will definitely be at a time when they aren't so busy.

Ironically, the professor-in-law had just yesterday given us a gift certificate for the Foothills Milling Co. in Maryville. We wish we had gone there for our anniversary.


R. Neal's picture
Oh, I forgot the funniest

Oh, I forgot the funniest part of the evening. At one point, the Mrs. says, "well at least you'll get a good blog post out of this."

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Oh, I forgot the other funny

Oh, I forgot the other funny moment. At the end when everyone was apologizing, the Mrs. said, "well, if we'd had a bottle of champagne we could have at least got drunk and then we wouldn't have noticed or cared."

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I'm still a bit mystified as

I'm still a bit mystified as to why people would pay such an exhorbitant amount for a steak that's no better than the ones served at Copper Cellar or the Chop House.

I've been to Ruth's Chris in Atlanta and DC, and I was singularly unimpressed with both of them. Looks like Knoxville fits the same corporate profile.

Thanks for the warning.

~Russ

BTW, we went to Foothills

BTW, we went to Foothills Milling Company a few weeks ago with a friend from Maryville. We were very impressed - good food, good service, pleasant atmosphere. We'll be making the drive back.

As for RCSH, for that kind of $$ I expect exceptional. Guess we won't be checking it out based on this review.

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I'm no lobster connoisseur.

I'm no lobster connoisseur. If it hadn't been that we had lobster recently during our trip to Maine and it was excellent (along with the prime rib), I may not have known exactly what to expect. This was Caribbean lobster. Maybe it is supposed to be rubbery. I have cooked shrimp too long and it turned out rubbery, thus my surprise that Ruth's Chris would serve such bad lobster.

Also, the butter for the lobster was provided with an elaborate setup that included a candle to melt the butter. R.'s candle arrived unlit. We waited for the server to return and light it. We kept swapping our butters to slowly get them both melted from my candle. We finally came up with a lighter and lit it ourselves.

For a $200+ meal that pretty

For a $200+ meal that pretty piss poor service. I might expect some delays in getting served due to the holiday rush etc...but the quality of food you received is unacceptable. I was going to take my wife there for her birthday in Jan. I'd probably do better to grill my own Fresh Market steaks like you did.

Opinari's picture
Not typical...

The Ruth's Chris steakhouses in Atlanta and Connecticut at which I have dined have been much better than the one that you describe. I would chalk it up to poor planning, poor staffing, and/or inexperience on the part of management. However, I echo the sentiment that RCSH is very much overpriced. I would never have eaten there were I not on a corporate expense account. Heh.

My understanding is that the

My understanding is that the upper echelon of the kitchen staff and management were all promoted from inside the company, so you'd think they would be able to run the show.

I have a family member who has done well chef'ing locally, and he made it to the second round of interviews and then was told that they wanted company folks....maybe he should give them a call....

And, I've heard incredible things about Foothill Milling. I think it would be well worth the drive.

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R. Neal's picture
Yeah, I've been to one in

Yeah, I've been to one in Baton Rouge and another in Orlando (actually, Longwood, I think). They were better, but not that remarkable either. This one was obviously having a bad night.

Wine list

Wine geek alert:

"(Their wine list is quite impressive if you're in to that sort of thing, but now I have to wonder if it's all for show and whether they really have them all)."

Our current favorite (and non-chain) steak joint has an impressive wine list too. It won Wine Spectator's "Wine List of Distinction" (and it isn't in New York). The criteria for the award includes that the actually cellar was checked to see if the wine was actually there.

*PS. The wife (who loves a good steak) is getting a kick out of the Ruth's Chris not living up to the hype in Knoxville. She hates them as they are nothing but an expense account sponge for middle-management types who end up in trouble for turning in a $300 tab. It's interesting that supposedly unsophisticated Knoxville would see right through it! I suggest everyone get a copy of Zagat's to go on their phone and try out some local places when you are on a business trip.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

I ate at the Ruth's Chris in

I ate at the Ruth's Chris in Nashville two weeks ago. Terrific on all counts as for food and service. The dining room isn't much for looks and feel. The dining rooms at the Nashville Mortons and the Palm are better. I was at the Palm in Nashville last Sat. night. Everything was wonderful. Best meal I've had in a while.

One thing I noted a couple of weeks back. The "Capital Grill" in the remodeled Hermitage Hotel in Nashville is not the same Capital Grille steakhouse some might be familiar with. The steakhouse chain is similar to Morton's, the Palm, etc. The restaurant in the Hermitage is just beautiful and the menu varied (and pricey), but don't get it confused.

Randy, maybe take them up on a return visit when it's not so crowded and the staff overwhelmed.

"Randy, maybe take them up

"Randy, maybe take them up on a return visit when it's not so crowded and the staff overwhelmed."

A crowded restaurant is one making money and an overwhelmed staff is a sign of poor management. Ever watch Gordon Ramsay?

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

kinda partial to the

kinda partial to the Greenbrier Inn or the Peddler in Gatlinburg. much cozier, and a fraction of the pretentiousness. anybody been to Ye Olde lately? I know they jacked the prices up after the re-lo and the fire, but was hoping things had settled back down.

Ye Olde

The best steakhouse in Knoxville is doing quite well. I've been there on at least one slow day and also a crazy weekend night in the last few months, and the service was quite good and the food divine both times. Of course, you shouldn't judge them by their perfunctory take on a salad, and I'll admit that I always eat steak, so I can't speak for the chicken or seafood. But I don't think their prices are out of line for what you get. A large New York strip with a salad and a vegetable goes for about $26. I split mine with a friend with an extra salad and veggie, and we're full and out the door for under $50 with tax and tip. (Not having a wine list helps with that.)

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The best steakhouse in

The best steakhouse in Knoxville is doing quite well.

Yes, it is.

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We have friends who have

We have friends who have been, I believe more than once, to this one and report nothing but a wonderful experience. I know I'm just an unsophisticated hick, but I can't understand a business model that justifies such prices, let alone sufficient demand to support it. Just boggles my mind.

Our best dinners--not just atmosphere, but food-wise--are ones Mrs. FC cooks and I help by grilling the fish. Our most expensive dinner out I can remember in Knoxville was an anniversary at Mango's, where the total bill was still way under $100. In California last year, we had an unbelievable meal "at river's edge" overlooking the junction of the Russian River and the Pacific. Including a great bottle of wine and tip we spent something like $160. Couldn't do that very often, but it was well worth it all things considered.

Ruth Chris is #1 in my book

I love Ruth Chris. Best service, and by far the best food. One bad experience sucks, but I go there twice a week and have nothing but good experiences. Food melts in your mouth, and the prices are high, but manageable. $35 steak, 2 $8 sides, and a few drinks and you are in for the time of your life.

the time of your life Too

the time of your life

Too funny. I had great times when it was Riverside Tavern for 1/3 or less of the price.

Overpriced and not that good

At the risk of sounding like SayUncle, the best steaks are the ones I grill myself. :)

I've also been underwhelmed by Ruth's Chris, having only been to the one in San Diego. I get the impression that they're a lot more about the theater than the food. I've always thought about giving them a second chance, but now I may reconsider.

For what it's worth, though, the manager did the right thing by comping your meal. It's smart business. I'm surprised he didn't comp it and offer a discount on a return visit. If you do decide to return, make sure you talk to the manager (the one who comped you) upon your arrival. A good manager will give his staff "the talk" for a return customer, especially one who previously had a bad experience, irrespective of whether you're "someone important."

My wife and I had a small dinner (more like a snack, really) at a fine dining restaurant here in Memphis that had just opened up at the time. Everything was good, but the food was very slow to come out, and something (I don't even remember what) wasn't exactly as we ordered it. I tipped nicely (the server was frequently around; it was the kitchen that was slow), but remarked briefly about the things that were not right. On every subsequent visit, they've treated us like royalty, and the food has been exquisite. That manager, at least, knew the value of working to correct a bad first impression.

As to the hair, look at the bright side: at 500F, it was completely sterilized. :)

Almost forgot

Congrats on the anniversary. How many now?

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35 now and counting. I

35 now and counting. Thanks.

I guess that's what made it a little more disappointing. They knew about it because I clicked it on the online reservation form. The server mentioned it and actually made a pretty big deal about it which was kinda nice.

I am so torn about that. On

I am so torn about that. On one hand, it's really cool that you can do that. On the other hand, there could be a neighborhood place with an excellent steak frites and good wine list where they would just know that it's your anniversary or just treat you great for being a regular.

Happy Anniversary, by the way. I've only met you once person-to-person and IIRC, Bizgrrl looked too young to be married for 35 years. ;p

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

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Thanks, and Bizgrrl says

Thanks, and Bizgrrl says thanks, too. (We got married pretty young, and she's held up a lot better than me.)

Yeah, I wish we had a nice neighborhood place. We've only ever had a couple like that. Around here they're all chains or pizza places. (Except Foothills. Guess we need to get over there more often.)

Even when you go someplace fairly regularly (like we used to go to Riverside), turnover is so high there are new (and not very well trained) servers every time.

I'll give RC credit for at least training their servers. And the atmosphere is similar to the old Riverside. And their menu is much more interesting. But at the end of the day, it's an "upscale" Outback.

I hope you realize you've

I hope you realize you've started a thread about a steakhouse.

There's a track record that those turn rather ugly: Link...

Wow, 35

Kind of makes my 10 years of holy headlock, err, wedlock seem like not that much. :)

If you go back, send the

If you go back, send the link to this post if you can in the reservation form. I bet you'll get treated right on any night. Happy Anniversary.

Ruth's Chris

Sorry - disagree completely with the negatives. Truly the best food, atmosphere and service ever! I know this is a 'chain' restaurant, but does not fit any of the typical chain restuarant criteria. Maybe the critiqu-ers need their Applebees, O'Charley fixes.

Actually I need my La

Actually I need my La Brigada fix.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

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Maybe the critiqu-ers need

Maybe the critiqu-ers need their Applebees, O'Charley fixes.

I have never dined at an O'Charley's, and only once or twice that I can remember at Applebees and only because it was the only restaurant with a bar convenient to the interstate hotel in rural South GA where we were for business.

Ooh, Applebee's Story!

I was in a wedding in Athens, TN several years ago. The groom's party tended to stay around the motel, while the bride's party went out for a bit. Where? To Applebee's.

Now in Cookeville, we didn't get an Applebee's until liquor by the drink passed. I figured that was universal, but apparently not. Ever had a "mixed drink" from the bar made with a wine cooler? Neither had any of them. And I doubt they'll ever order another one.

So cheer up, it could always be worse.

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A couple of months ago, my

A couple of months ago, my son and I dined at Applebee's. After finishing about 2/3 of his meal, my son noticed a fly mixed in with the barbeque sauce on his entree. I promptly notified the server who in turn sent over the manager. After apologizing, they comp'ed his entree only. Not the baked potato that he of course did not eat, his drink or my meal.

That did it for me. No more Applebee's.

Yes, it could be worse.

At least you got a good blog post out of it

Really sorry to hear about your experience. You only get one shot at making the most of a special occasion.

That said, no matter the establishment, there are going to be horror stories like yours. When it happens, the only right and reasonable thing to do is what this manager did, and offer an apology and to comp the entire meal.

I'm not sure why you refused that offer. It was an honest attempt to do the right thing, given the circumstances. And whether you agree or not, I think it might have mitigated your disgust somewhat. I realize that it's not about the money. But they can't take back your experience. It's as tangible and sincere an effort to apologize, and your refusing to accept it just buffoons me. It's sort of like refusing to accept an apology.

It does sound like there are some real issues at the place. And I hope they get them worked out. But it's reassuring to me to know that when worse comes to worst, they're at least responsible enough to do what's right. I think we've probably all had nightmares like this happen. But how the management reacts when it does is a real test of the place's values and regard for satisfaction.
~m.

Chains

Sorry to break it to you all but there are dirty and disgusting things that happen in ALL restaurants. This has been an interesting thread...seems there is a arrogant attitude of sorts about mainstream things. So people eat at O'Charleys or Calhouns....big deal. Just because they aren't going to a local place (that is likely to have just as many issues...did ya read the story about the special hair in the local place off Asheville highway last week?)doesn't make them bourgeois.

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I'm not sure why you refused

I'm not sure why you refused that offer.

I didn't refuse it. I just told him it wasn't necessary, i.e. I wasn't just looking to get a free meal. And yes, it was the correct thing for them to do, and I accepted it.

Oops.

In rereading the account, I understand that you did accept the comp. You weren't looking for a free meal, and Ruth's wasn't looking to get paid for something they didn't provide.

Thanks for the story. It won't keep me from going. But if my visit goes anything like yours I won't be able to say I wasn't warned. I haven't heard much from folks about the place. But what little I have heard hasn't been very positive.

R. Neal's picture
If they are busy (and the

If they are busy (and the same goes for any restaurant, really), you might take a pass and come back when things are a little more settled down.

As I said in the post, one of the first things we noticed was the staff's apparent composure among all the controlled chaos. I guess that's training. I think it mostly boils down to the kitchen being overwhelmed. Maybe they shouldn't book two banquet room parties at the same time.

I found what looked like

I found what looked like part of a mop in my 1/2 cup bowl of pinto beans at a Knoxville area cafeteria several years ago. The waitress took it and showed the manager and he comped just the beans. Did not even come over and say anything to me.

totally disagree on

totally disagree on accepting comps. Too many managers just use it to pretend nothing happened, eg. "you paid nothing, so you no longer have anything to complain about." I think if a restaurant that screws up truly wants you back, they should offer a dessert on the house, or a small discount or gift card for a future visit, not wipe out the bill for a bad experience.

Tis the Season

Maybe they shouldn't book two banquet room parties at the same time.

I was talking with a restaurant manager last night about the season and how it effects the business. He was saying that it's not so much the big parties -- they're booked and they plan for that -- but the number of people who are having impromptu gatherings getting tables or 8 or 10 that really puts the strain on. Those things happen. But this week it's particularly frequent.

You made reservations. But I wonder how many of your fellow diners did.
~m.

eh...

I think if a restaurant that screws up truly wants you back, they should offer a dessert on the house, or a small discount or gift card for a future visit, not wipe out the bill for a bad experience.

I understand what you're saying. But tearing up a $170+ check (knowing you're going to have to answer to your management for it) is still a decent gesture. And it sounds as if, in this instance, there was no lack of contrition.
~m.

redmondkr's picture
I understand what you're

I understand what you're saying. But tearing up a $170+ check . . .

Keep in mind that the $170+ check we are talking about has a street value of about $40.


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Don't forget about paying

Don't forget about paying for the bowl it goes in, or the ladle to serve it with, or the stock pot to cook it in, or the $5000 commercial stove to cook it on, or the $4000 gas bill to power the $5000 stove.

Don't forget about paying the hostess to seat the customer who buys the soup, or the waiter to serve the soup, or paying the workers comp bill for the waiter who spills the hot soup all over his hand and had to go the hospital for 3rd degree burns and was out of work for a week.

Don't forget about paying the dishwasher to wash the bowl, oh yeah, and don't forget about your workers comp bill going up again because the dishwasher cut his finger on the knife you used to chop the onions for the soup. Don't forget about the $10,000 dishwasher to clean it with, or the ridiculously overpriced chemicals to go into the $10,000 dishwasher, and the $2000 water bill or the $3000 electric bill to power the $10,000 dishwasher.

Don't forget about paying for the water glass the customer is drinking out of, or the linen napkin the customer is wiping his mouth with, or the soap in the bathroom, or the sugar on the table, or the salt or the pepper, or the spoon, or the knife, or the bread or the butter.

Don't forget to pay the rent and the insurance and trash pickup all required for the customer to enjoy his soup. Don't forget to sacrifice 2-3% of your sales from the soup so the customer could use his credit card. Don't forget about the $1000's of advertising dollars you spent to try and convince the customer to come to your restaurant to buy your soup.

The lesson here is: There is a lot more in that soup than simply it's ingredients. If restaurants were all such a cash cow, the 8 of 10 new restaurants wouldn't fail within the first year of business.

"The lesson here is: There

"The lesson here is: There is a lot more in that soup than simply it's ingredients. If restaurants were all such a cash cow, the 8 of 10 new restaurants wouldn't fail within the first year of business."

I think the lesson is that if you aren't thinking of your pot of soup as a way to make money, then you are screwed.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

"I think the lesson is that

"I think the lesson is that if you aren't thinking of your pot of soup as a way to make money, then you are screwed."

I would think that's everyone's intention when opening any business. But unfortunately, many take the attitude of your Gordon Ramsey approach when opening a restaurant and don't realize what it really takes to make a restaurant successful. It is truly a unique and rare combination or good business sense, attention to detail, and creativity.

Whither Riverside...

I'm from Nashville, well, Franklin actually, and am shocked and saddened to learn that Riverside is gone. I ate there numerous times over the last several years and always looked forward to the next visit. Top shelf all the way!

Have been to Ruths Chris in Nashville and several other cities and never had anything less than a wonderful experience, be it costly.

My last couple of visits to Knoxville landed me at West Side Tavern where I had excellent steaks, sides, sips, and service.

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West Side Tavern is gone,

West Side Tavern is gone, too, but the Riverside concept lives on at the Lakeside Tavern in Concord (West Knoxville on the lake). We haven't been there yet but have been meaning to try it.

West Side Tavern was crap

Same food, view of river replaced by Kingston Pike sprawl. Good riddance.

Tried it, liked it

It's in a lovely spot next to (or in, who knows) Concord Park with a beautiful view of the lake and what little is left of rural-ish West Knox County. The park seems to surround the restaurant on all sides. There's a railroad spur/line across the lake which actually has an occasional train on it. Food and service is up to the Riverside standards.

we eat out quite a bit (ashamed to say)

and I was never really impressed with the place. Other than the view it had little to recommend and service was spotty. You could go to Regas (which I still love despite ownership changes over the years), spend about the same, get better service, and then come down and look at the water.

I detested the Tennesse Grille .. one could purchase a finer meal at a Bojangles. The new place, Bridgeview Grille, is a lot better (at least the two times I have been there) though it is a bit more expensive. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone else who has been there.

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If I go to a steak house, I expect steak...Not good food. So the service better be first rate. I've eaten at The Morton's and The Ruth's Chris and had excellent service at both, and I've not felt the need to return to either.

If I want good food AND good service, I go to one of the fine Chef owned restaurants found in nearly every city all over the planet. Knoxville has several.

This is the unfortunate

This is the unfortunate consequences of what happens when a restaurant chain gets to big, to fast.

Ruth Chris started almost by accident by a single mom who stumbled into the restaurant industry. Her strong focus on food, quality of service, and innovation in cooking techniques, ultimately lead to the success of the brand. As a small chain/franchise, the brand held true with it's focus on quality and it constant oversight by the founder. Now that they have over 100 restaurants, that individual focus on quality and consistency literally can't be maintained. Common sense will tell you , if you aren't financially vested into a business somehow, even though you may be the best manager or employee in the world, the intensity level for quality is not the same as if you owned it.

This same story can be told for countless other restaurants that made it big. They all started out fantastic, but as they got bigger, the original things that made them great slowly began to disappear. Ruby Tuesday's would be a prime example of this. (no offense to anyone who likes Ruby's Tuesday's...but if you've ever eaten at the original one, you know what Ruby's has become is no comparison to what it started out as)

Any new restaurant opening is a major undertaking and is destined for mistakes. It always takes a little time for a new restaurant to become cohesive. It sounds like they handled your situation correctly in the end by acknowledging your poor experience, comping your meal, and asking you to return.

I'm sure Ruth Chris will work out their kinks, they are a successful company with a good track record. But I doubt it will ever be as good as it was when they started.

My experiences have taught me to stick with local mom and pops, chef owned, or small locally owned chains to ensure an all around good dining experience, not to mention the support of the small business owner.

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