Submitted by R. Neal on Sun, 2010/03/14 - 2:57pm

AP Exclusive: Pentagon gun was from TN police:

Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn.

As the article notes, the Tennessee legislature passed a law requiring law enforcement agencies to sell confiscated guns. Seems to me that if a gun is taken off the street because it was involved in a crime it ought to stay off the street.

The article also says one of the killers, who was prohibited from owning a gun, bought his at a gun show by way of a "private sale" which doesn't require a background check. The new Tennessee law only allows law enforcemnt to sell to a licensed firearm dealer, but this weapon apparently found it's way to a private owner, presumably through legitimate channels. Seems to me "private sales" (which many times aren't) should be banned at gun shows. (Related)

Beyond that, maybe any "private sale" should be subject to a title transfer, similar to the private sale of a car or a boat. The state then could perform a background check at the time of transfer (and bonus: tax it!) without infringing on anyone's legitimate rights. Not sure why there would be any objection to that.

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ANGRYWOLF's picture

GUNS...

To quote Neo...I need guns, lots of guns...
and they appear as if by magic.

I know the Memphis homicide cops I use to see on the First 48 wouldn't like that practice.Sadly the DA there was more concerned about their cases being profiled on tv than he was about the police department selling guns.

As it seems we're going to be stuck with another repub as the next Govenor I doubt that practice will change, especially in conservative states like TN.

One can hope more progressive states will take action to ban the practice.

Raggaman's picture

Ok, humor me: If private

Ok, humor me: If private sales were at "gun shows" were banned, what would prevent a private seller and a buyer from swapping phone numbers and concluding the transaction, say, on a Walmart parking lot two blocks down the street?

metulj's picture

Straw man much?

Straw man much?

Raggaman's picture

Ad hominem much? Please

Ad hominem much?

Please point out the fallacy in my argument. Have you ever been to a gun show? Majority of private sales take place out in the parking lot, folks selling guns off the back of their trucks.

Inside a gun show venue, most of the firearms sellers are Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders who must run a background check on every buyer -- no different than buying a gun in a gun store. If private sales were banned inside the venue ("at the gun show"), how much of an effort do you think would it be to conclude the transaction ("the sale") in the parking lot?

Closing the "gun show loophole" is a fallacy that accomplishes nothing without a total ban on private firearms sales and establishment of government controlled gun registration (which is what R. Neal was implying anyway).

metulj's picture

For that to have been an ad

For that to have been an ad hominem argument, I would have had to insult you. I didn't. You insulted yourself.

Andy Axel's picture

BUT YOU DISAGREED WITH HIS

BUT YOU DISAGREED WITH HIS ENTITLED OPINION! THAT"S INSULTING!!!!onoffoffon! (to him)

metulj's picture

BIGIT!

BIGIT!

talidapali's picture

Ok, humor me: If private

Ok, humor me: If private sales were at "gun shows" were banned, what would prevent a private seller and a buyer from swapping phone numbers and concluding the transaction, say, on a Walmart parking lot two blocks down the street?

Laziness on the part of either party that didn't want to get their fat asses in the car and drive two blocks?

bizgrrl's picture

And, they would not longer be

And, they would not longer be sold at "gun shows". It would be one individual selling to another and the selling individual may or may not be held accountable for selling to some lunatic or felon.

R. Neal's picture

Have you ever been to a gun

Have you ever been to a gun show? Majority of private sales take place out in the parking lot, folks selling guns off the back of their trucks.

Actually, I have. Many, many years ago. And (legally) bought and sold. And not in the parking lot.

But I've grown up since then.

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