Mon
May 17 2010
01:02 pm

Editorial: Business park is smart planning for East Knox:

We understand the concerns of area residents, but we urge commissioners to approve the plan with the business park included.

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The fact that the county has a lot of empty space at existing parks and in brownfields shouldn't matter.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

Diverse how?

The fact that the county has a lot of empty space at existing parks and in brownfields shouldn't matter.

Hmm. They qualify that remark somewhat in their next sentence...

Different companies have different needs, and it's crucial to have a diverse portfolio of available locations to remain competitive.

...but they fail to explain in what way this particular project adds to the "diversity" of the county's existing offerings.

Anonymously Nine's picture

Scott Barker won't tell who wrote it

You should have signed your name to it as much as you bitch about gutless anonymous bloggers.

Nice how the paper preserves the double standard of calling everyone else cowards while they hide behind the "honored" tradition of the anonymous editorial staff.

So Scott, would you call that advocacy journalism, or something more yellow? Nice double entendre eh? See yellow has more than one meaning there.

R. Neal's picture

Editorials by definition have

Editorials by definition have a point of view, even if you don't agree with it.

I think more troublesome is a business reporter (not Josh Flory or Carly Harrington) who expressed pretty much the same opinion on his blog. Now what are we to make of this reporter's objectivity in any future coverage of the controversy, assuming he ever writes about it again?

sugarfatpie's picture

Putting an industrial park on septic is not green. Its reckless.

The park will have its own septic system, which will restrict the types of tenants and avoid the need for a sewer line that could open up the region for a more sprawling development.

This system will be a major liability for any business that goes in that park. It will fail under the load of chemicals that will go in it even if they do try and limit it to domestic strength waste.

Then the taxpayers will start getting soaked by lawsuits, as if we haven't already been soaked enough by this real estate boondogle masquerading as a job-creator.

Tod Napier of TDC said that we should make this the greenest industrial park in the US. Well putting an industrial park on septic is not green. Unless green is the color your want your well water to be.

reform4's picture

I'm confused

Finbarr told me that TDC told him that they were putting in a dedicated WWTP (NOT a septic system) that wouldn't accept outside connections.

What's the real wastewater story here???

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Hybrid System

Steve, my understanding is that the onsite waste water treatment system will be like a septic system in that it will go to a holding tank and will be dispersed over a 30 acre drip field. Each building will have its own system. The difference between this system and a regular septic system is that the system will include treatment of the waste before it is dispersed. It can only handle domestic waste streams - basically human waste only. Presumably it will have the ability to filter bacteria and viruses, but it likely won't remove chemicals or hormones.

sugarfatpie's picture

And it has all the weaknesses

And it has all the weaknesses of a regular septic system, as in it will crash and stop providing adequate treatment if you introduce chemicals into it, such as those a "light manufacturing" facility might need for equipment cleaning.

They really need to take the pee and poo out of their proposed system (with solar desiccating toilets) . It would save on the amount of drip field they would need to put in, and it would reduce the potential for contamination of the water supply.

rikki's picture

That editorial has glaring

That editorial has glaring weaknesses.

It implies that the sector plan specifically includes "the" business park as proposed by TDC, when it's actually a zoning document that sets parameters for a business park. This project has always been a tail-wagging-the-dog proposal, and TDC wants to get Commission as far down the road as possible before asking for money. Talking as if approving the sector plan equates to approving the business park puts KNS on the side of duping Knox Co into a big expenditure.

It also relies on growth projections that are essentially worthless in the current economic climate. Changes in both energy and credit markets are making old, safe development concepts obsolete. KNS shows little comprehension of how the future has changed in the wake of the disastrous Bush presidency they helped perpetuate.

Finally, they belittle the East Knox community by implying that I-40 already ruined it, when the sector plan itself makes clear how much rural character remains. KNS passed up a good opportunity to encourage Commission to make good on a lot of the conservation planning outlined in the sector plan. There are seeds for smart planning in that document, but Commission has to cultivate them.

It's ironic that this editorial appears concurrently with a big story on Mike Ross's failed developments because this sort of stale boosterism for a project conceived in an easier era is a good recipe for more failure. It's going to take creative thinking to bring smart development to East Knox County, and it looks like the Sentinel is behind even TDC on that front.

R. Neal's picture

Finally, they belittle the

Finally, they belittle the East Knox community by implying that I-40 already ruined it, when the sector plan itself makes clear how much rural character remains.

We've been out to the Seven Islands refuge a couple of times. Didn't look ruined to me.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Disappointing Editorial

I'm sure nobody is surprised that I disagree with the editorial. What I didn't expect is that the argument would be so poor. A rather lukewarm and weak editorial, in my opinion.

Then again, trying to think of good reasons to justify a business park at that site, I come up short myself. If they had a prospect that was a perfect fit for the site, if they could show that there was some benefit to the location that isn't available at the other sites, if they were willing to discuss alternative uses for the property, if they were forthcoming with the facts and the history and didn't keep changing things up to suit the situation and the audience - I might accept arguments that were well-made and fact-based.

The vague "we need it for future business" and "it will bring jobs" just doesn't get it for me.

On the other hand, I can easily think of a dozen factual reasons why this property is a bad choice and why TDC shouldn't be allowed to move forward with this plan.

KnoxCatLady's picture

Simply A Bad Idea Altogether

I think a lot of Scott Barker and cannot believe he wrote the editorial in question. Even if he did, I think it surely must have been an assignment and one not of his own choosing. I cannot agree with The Sentinel editorial and still think it is simply a bad idea altogether.

Anonymously Nine's picture

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Maybe someone could email this to Scott Barker and Jack McElroy. I don't think Mike Edwards can understand it. Or would care to learn.

(link...)

"Karst aquifers are susceptible to contamination due to features like sinkholes and caverns providing a conduit for contamination, McKay said in a UT press release. He went on to call for more studies to assess the overall health impact in the area.

Waterborne contamination affects people to varying degrees, with some people having no symptoms and others becoming seriously ill or even dying."

At least there will be lawsuits to boost the local economy. Uh wait, won't the taxpayers be the Plaintiffs? Maybe that isn't so great after all.

Right now the swing votes are Tony Norman, Craig Leuthold, Mike Brown, Mike Hammond, Tank Strickland, and Ed Shouse. Go visit a spell with those folks and let them know how you feel about risk and low return.

sugarfatpie's picture

Giant septic on Karst = sickness

Its studies like this that make people at EPA and TDEC very wary of locating an industrial park on septic and on Karst, as TDC intends to do with Midway. And yes Midway is an industrial park even if TDC calls it a business park. They want to put manufacturing in it.

Any commissioner who thinks the Midway park could work should read this study first. It won't work because with the proposed on-site septic system its awful environmentally. There is no way to spin a giant septic located on Karst as even remotely "green", let alone "the greenest park in the US". If TDC proceeds, Midway will be tied up in court for a generation or more as people's wells get contaminated by chemicals that will be easily traceable back to the Midway park.

Lets start talking about better alternatives for this site. Many have been proposed. None are being considered by TDC.

To begin with, whatever is located at Midway should use solar desiccating toilets and a greywater greenhouse to acheive "zero discharge" or at least extremely low discharge of wastewater.

This has been done by the Ecological Engineering Group who designed a system for New England Biolabs.

One advantage of such a system is that it would segregate pee and poo from the wastewater stream (leaving only greywater), so the risk of contaminating the water table is much less.

Another advantage is that the greenhouse system can be designed to biodegrade specific contaminants that a facility at Midway might generate.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Not the Only Stinky

Looks like the waste water isn't the only stinky problem . . . and I don't think it's the last.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Risky Business

What I really can't understand is with all the risks associated with the project, the likelihood that no company will be willing to locate there, and the possibility that the same thing will happen to Thorn Grove as happened to TDC's other sinkhole project, Burnette's Creek, which cost the City of Knoxville millions to correct, why any politician would put their career on the line for Midway Road industrial park.

There is enough information spread across the internet that any company who would be considering locating here who does a modicum of due diligence would be very leery of locating at Midway Road. Not only is the pollution possibility and liability a concern, but also the indisputable fact that the property is located on the opposite end of the county from the airport, supporting businesses and the educated workforce. There is absolutely no amenities except for the interstate location and there are other business parks with better location and with CONTIGUOUS property available.

That is a common misconception about the Midway property - that it will offer contiguous land - the reality is that because they have to work with the giant drainfields and work around the sinkholes and the slopes that are above 15%, not to mention the KUB and TVA facilities to be located there, the "green" stormwater structures, roads and other infrastructure, they are going to end up with the same thing we have at the other business parks - 25 acre plots.

Who is responsible if they create the business park and it doesn't work? Will Mike Edwards and Todd Napier and Rhonda Rice and all the others be willing to put their jobs on the line if no one will locate in their park? What about their projection of 5,000 new jobs - have they got ANYTHING to back that number up? Here's a hint - the only jobs that have come here in the last several years to business parks is roughly 250 at Sysco and 230 at Green Mountain. Sea Ray has come and mostly already gone. The answer is that 5,000 jobs is wildly optimistic. I think it is time that someone is held accountable for this - just like the private sector, if they can't produce what they say they can, they should be fired.

Who will be financially responsible if the groundwater is polluted? Is anybody who is so certain this will work willing to sign a statement taking financial responsibility if the water gets contaminated because of the business park? I didn't think so.

I could go on, but I'm sure folks are as tired of hearing about it as I am of talking about it.

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