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Jan 21 2007
05:45 pm

Perhaps I have overlooked it, but are there any criteria for the mixture of members on the MPC?
It looks heavily weighted toward the development industry. At least 8 of the 15 members look like developers/contractors of some sort. I could see perhaps two members from those related industries, but the remainder more of a balanced cross-section of the community.

I would have more faith in MPC viewpoints with a more evenly distributed membership
more accurately representing the entire community.

(link...)

Number9's picture

You have see nothing yet...

Perhaps I have overlooked it, but are there any criteria for the mixture of members on the MPC?

It looks heavily weighted toward the development industry. At least 8 of the 15 members look like developers/contractors of some sort.

I could see perhaps two members from those related industries, but the remainder more of a balanced cross-section of the community.

Balance? Wait until Jan. 31st for balance. Apparently conflict of interest is not only not a concern for MPC or Knox County Commission, it is a requirement.

Of course the idea of taking back the government...

Rachel's picture

MPC Commissioners are

MPC Commissioners are appointed - 8 by the county mayor, and 7 by the city mayor. The City appointees do not have to approved by City Council. I think the County ones do have to be approved by County Commission, but I'm not sure.

They are not salaried and it's a fairly heavy commitment to do the job well (as bizgrrl can attest to, having observed the last MPC meeting).

Commissioners should have some interest and background in the kind of issues they will be dealing with. If there are any formal requirements, I'm unaware of them.

That said, I agree that the current crop is too heavily weighted toward the development industry. The mayors seem content with the idea that there one "neighborhood seat."

Mayor Haslam was asked about MPC qualifications in his last campaign, and talked about the need for balance. He needs to be reminded about that need when he makes new appts. It's easy for the Mayors to get away with appointing whomever they like since few citizens pay attention.

Also, MPC Commissioners are required by law to attend at least 4 hours to continuing education each calendar year. I've been told our Commissioners are seriously deficient in this regard.

jbr's picture

I assume some of their terms

I assume some of their terms may have started under a previous mayor. Is there a list of which MPC members were appointed by which mayor? How long they have served? Their voting records on projects?

I assume most any property owning, taxpaying citizen is a potential candidate.

The 'interest' part I agree with, the 'background' part is not as important to me as being a sensible, calm, thoughtful person.

How long do they serve? Do they have term limits?

Rachel's picture

P.S. I don't mean to

P.S. I don't mean to badmouth all MPC Commissioners. There are some really good, intelligent Commissioners, who take the time to be well-informed about the issues that come before them, and who approach their jobs in a thoughtful manner. This includes some whose opinions I often disagree with.

The need for better balance is real, tho.

And they serve 4 year terms, unless they are filling the balance of an unfinished term. The individual terms, and whether they are City or County appointees, is listed on the page linked to in the lead post of this thread.

rocketsquirrel's picture

terms

I don't think the terms listed on the MPC site accurately reflect the length of time some of these folks have been on MPC. I think the numbers just reflect their "current" term.

lotta's picture

running appointments

Mayors can reappoint the same person for multiple terms if they so desire. Some of them have been around for a while.

Rachel's picture

MPC Terms

The terms listed can possibly reflect the current term. For example, Herb Donaldson's current term is most definitely NOT 1998-2008.

Unlike Commission, MPC does have a fair amount of turnover. But it's always pretty much "meet the new boss" when new appts are made.

And I do think background is important. That doesn't mean you have to be a planner or work in some development industry. You just need to be a well-informed citizen (Jamie Rowe, for example, would make an excellent MPC Commissioner). But if you go in without knowing the difference between a sector plan and a rezoning, it's going to take a long time and a lot of work before you figure out what's going on.

And oh yeah, what Bean said.

Bbeanster's picture

I really should give Susan

I really should give Susan Brown a little plug here. She dug in to defend the sector planning process, and probably made the difference in getting the staff recommendation overturned. I was very impressed with her.

Rachel's picture

Susan Brown

Susan's a good one. Trey Benefield's another. Chet Kilgore supports neighborhoods and historic preservation (but then he's in the City seat that seems to be reserved for such a person).

I'd never talked with or seen Ray Evans work until recently, but I've been impressed with him. He really does his homework and seems to be very sharp on understanding what's (not) said. Plus he returned my phone call last month (when several other commissioners didn't bother). And last fall at a joint City/County workshop on form-based codes he was one of two (out of 15) MPC Commissioners to show up.

lotta's picture

We may think background is important

but it's not usually the deciding factor. It seems the county mayor looks for non-controversial campaign contributors he can count on to go with the flow. If smarts were the priority, Ms. Rowe would be a no-brainer.

I'm trying to imagine Ms. Rowe in the commissioners lounge when the lawyer/lobbyists step in to snack, advise, and schmoose with the commissioners before they vote. :-)

Bbeanster's picture

I believe Jamie expressed

I believe Jamie expressed interest in being appointed, and was passed over for Becky Longmire.

Bbeanster's picture

Most of these commissioners

Most of these commissioners are either developers or do business with developers. Contrary to what you'd believe after reading those bios, there is very little balance on this board, and neighborhood/communities mostly don't have a prayer.
I saw it with fresh eyes two years ago when my parents had a zoning issue arise next door to them. They are outside the urban growth boundary, but the MPC staff recommended a 300+ unit development in a 100 acre pasture field next door to them, citing a phantom "development" across the street as justification. Trouble with that was the development they mentioned is more than a mile away. The planner apologized for his mistake, but didn't back off the recommendation. My parents are 87 and 85 years old, moved way out in the country years ago, and participated in the planning process that zoned their immediate neighborhood rural residential and agricultural (which restricts builders to one unit per acre). They were relieved to get those zoning designations, and relied on them.
I had some experience covering these matters, but more importantly, was advised by folks like James McMillan and Jamie Rowe, who have a LOT of experience, and we were able to get MPC to turn it down. The developer appealed, and took it to Commission, where he relied on the MPC staff's crappy recommendation.
I'd hoped to get the support of Craig Leuthold, whose dad was always a stalwart defender of neighborhoods, but when I saw him huddled with the developer before the meeting, I figured we were cooked (this developer donates large sums of dough to commission candidates).
We were able to fight them off (no thanks to the likes of Scoobie Moore or any of the West Knox commissioners), but it was a very tough fight, and we know it's just a matter of time until they come back.
I just want Knox County government to keep its promises to people like my parents, who never ask for a thing except to be left alone.

jbr's picture

After seeing the acronym,

After seeing the acronym, MPC, show up in several issues as a source of some pretty odd perspectives, perhaps the public can encourage some restructuring of the mechanism. I would like to see at least one seat being held by someone like your parents.

i guess gemini and I will agree to disagree on "knowing the difference between a sector plan and a rezoning," etc. importance for an MPC seat, but we seem to have a simlar viewpoint in general.

Who exactly controls the structure, and mechanics of MPC? How would changes come about?

Rachel's picture

MPC is governed primarily by

MPC is governed primarily by state law, under the State Planning Enabling Act and its amendments (TCA-13, I think).

jbr's picture

Do the posiitons have to be

Do the posiitons have to be appointed? Can they be populated via public vote?

Rachel's picture

Do the posiitons have to be


Do the posiitons have to be appointed? Can they be populated via public vote?

Yes, they have to be appointed. Local and regional planning commissions are governed by state law. To change the way appointmentss are made, you'd have to change state law.

The theory is that appointments takes these positions out of politics. Good theory, but of course it doesn't work out that way in practice. But then neither would elected Commissioners.

I'd be satisfied with a change to state law that requires city appts to be ratified by Council. Then at least there would be some kind of review.

jbr's picture

I would like to see a 2 term

I would like to see a 2 term limit. Also limits on number of members from specific industry categories. That should have been an obvious rule I would have thought.

Bbeanster's picture

Art Clancy is the

Art Clancy is the developers' best friend, and says some astonishing things to justify his votes. Kim Henry was leading the pack at Dave Hill's developers' meeting a few years ago when they launched into a "humorous" discussion of how to thwart and snooker homeowners' groups, whom they dismissed as "housewives" and "elderly." Never realized homemakers and old folks were so dangerous to the American way. I did a story about this, and it's one of the reasons that I am wary of Mr. Hill.

Rachel's picture

Art Clancy is the

Art Clancy is the developers' best friend, and says some astonishing things to justify his votes.

I didn't know much about him until the last MPC meeting, but I sort of noticed this too. Although nobody is as bad as Graf.

it's one of the reasons that I am wary of Mr. Hill.

There are actually jokes about "stormwater Dave" versus "south waterfront Dave". I didn't like the way the stormwater stuff went down at all, but I have worked with Dave closely for the last 18 months on the south waterfront and I can honestly say I don't think anybody could have done a better job.

Bbeanster's picture

This wasn't just

This wasn't just stormwater-related. It was a comprehensive developer-dominated taskforce bent on "streamlining" codes and regs for them. The stormwater fiasco was a whole separate deal.

lotta's picture

Metropolitan Development Commission

I was completely taken aback by my experience w/ MPC. I must admit, I was unprepared for the arrogance, no- downright contempt of citizens in general. Some of those people were treated very, very badly.

Clancy is one of the worst. He actually convinced one of his employees to sign over a right of way to push a development through in one of the RM Moore projects. Despicable. Where does his agenda come into MPC? Doesn't he make custom cabinets for new homes or something?

shortstuff's picture

Who is Art Clancy?

Art Clancy use to be in the new construction business. He and his business partner parted ways and Art spent a number of years recovering from the financial loss.

Rachel's picture

It was a comprehensive

It was a comprehensive developer-dominated taskforce bent on "streamlining" codes and regs for them.

Oh, that thing. The one that included moving the codes dept, along with MPC, to Cherokee Place.

Actually, this supposedly started out, IIRC, as a task force to make the codes office more efficient - which is something I have no problem with. Somewhere along the way it morphed into what Bean described above. I never completely understood why and how it took the turn it did.

Anyway, & thankfully, it seems to have died a merciful death. Unless I missed something?

Bbeanster's picture

I stand corrected about

I stand corrected about Clancy. Could've sworn he'd been there longer than two years. Seems muuuuuch longer. So much for Haslam's "balance."

Number9's picture

Hysterical

There are actually jokes about "stormwater Dave" versus "south waterfront Dave".

I am sure the people whose lives have been affected by flooding appreciate the difference.

shortstuff's picture

Dave Hill?

Is that Dave Hill or Jim Hill?

Bbeanster's picture

Art Clancy is the

Art Clancy is the developers' best friend, and says some astonishing things to justify his votes. Kim Henry was leading the pack at Dave Hill's developers' meeting a few years ago when they launched into a "humorous" discussion of how to thwart and snooker homeowners' groups, whom they dismissed as "housewives" and "elderly." Never realized homemakers and old folks were so dangerous to the American way. I did a story about this, and it's one of the reasons that I am wary of Mr. Hill.

jbr's picture

Any idea when Clancy and

Any idea when Clancy and Henry were first appointed? Who appointed them?

I notice two developer/contractors are the chairs. That seems like it should be different. Maybe two people from essentially the same industry category should not be able to be chairs.

Perhaps starting this year some balance in seats can begin.

I do not think many people know who is on MPC, and how they get there. Probably not what it is exactly.

Bbeanster's picture

Clancy was Victor's

Clancy was Victor's appointment (I think he is Sue Clancy's son), and Kim Henry is Haslam's (fairly recent) appointee. Any promises he made to be "balanced" haven't panned out all that well.

Rachel's picture

Art Clancy

Are you sure he was Victor's appointee? The website says he started serving in 2004, and Victor went out of office in Dec. 2003. Something that happened as Victor was going out the door?

I know Victor did appoint Jack Sharp.

Rachel's picture

Any idea when Clancy and

Any idea when Clancy and Henry were first appointed? Who appointed them?

It's on the website. City appointments prior to 2004 were Victor's. 2004 on are Haslam's.

Dave Hill's picture

"Thwart & Snicker"

Kim Henry was leading the pack at Dave Hill's developers' meeting a few years ago when they launched into a "humorous" discussion of how to thwart and snooker homeowners' groups, whom they dismissed as "housewives" and "elderly." Never realized homemakers and old folks were so dangerous to the American way.

A committee (DRC - Development Review Committe) was formed a couple of years ago with the express purpose of streamlining the city's development review process, and to specifically enhance communications and coordination between different agencies responsible for review of rezoning, plat, grading, and building permit applications. The principle was that following the rules does not have to involve unnecessary delays and expense. We carefully distinguished between "process" and "substantive" issues, and made recommendations only on procedural topics. The fact that inappropriate comments were made at a meeting that I did not attend was very unfortunate, but it did happen. I did not, and do not, condone this type of behavior, and at the time I circulated a memo asking participants ot refrain from this type of discussion.

I learned some important lessons during the DRC process and the county stormwater ordinance adoption process. The level of distrust in government in Knox County and Knxoville is very high, much higher than I have experienced working in 5 other municipalities in my career. Seems like a no-brainer, but with less than 2 years of experience here at the time, my policy of being willing to meet with anyone, anywhere to discuss relevant issues was (and probably still is) viewed as a move to align myself with development interests. I found this unfortunate since I try to be professional and ethical in my conduct, but such is life. Work hard, make mistakes, learn, and move on ...

Bbeanster's picture

Who is responsible for the 'level of mistrust?'

Thanks for the response, Dave, and for not saying that the incident didn't happen.
But I really take issue with the implication that the lack of trust in local government here is unwarranted. Odd thing to bring up right now, don't you think?
Upon reviewing my notes and speaking with someone who attended all the DRC meetings, it seems that Kim Henry was the instigator of the discussion and made many of the "inappropriate" comments herself. That was before she was appointed to MPC. What conclusions should a citizen draw from such an appointment?
So much for 'balance' between the competing interests, and this is just a relatively minor insult.
Reckon what Mr. Zeanah's level of trust is like right now?
It's not really much of a competition when the "deciders" are mostly people who make their livings off the development/construction industries. Guess who usually wins when one side is appealing to fairness and the goodness of somebody's hearts while the other side is appealing to their bankbooks?
My parents (who are, again, 87 and 85 year-old, god-fearing, honest-as-the-day-is-long taxpayers) have worked hard and planned their lives in an orderly fashion. One of the things they did was move so far out into the country that they could count on not having their lives disrupted. Mamma has huge gardens. Daddy has a John Deere that he putters around on, and the woods around them are full of wildlife that he loves to photograph. They, along with their neighbors, participated in every planning process that MPC and the county held, and they abided by and relied on these plans
They had the law and the regs on their side, but they would be choking on construction dust and trapped in traffic if they'd had to fight this battle all by themselves. Thanks to county commission overturning the MPC vote, we were able to postpone the inevitable( with the help of people like James McMillan and Jamie Rowe). But I know it's just a matter of time. This won't end until every single scrap of green earth in Knox County is sprouting mcmansions and condos and impermiable asphalt driveways.
And that whole stormwater fiasco. Jeeze. I could go on and on, without even getting to the term limits carnival --
You really wonder why people around here don't trust government?
You must not be from here.

Dave Hill's picture

Mistrust

I didn't make any observations regarding the legitimacy of the distrust. I only wanted to state my lack of perception in that regard.

Number9's picture

Don't faint, but we are in

Don't faint, but we are in agreement on this gemini. I see no solution.

Rachel's picture

MPC Appts

Hmm, I see three City Commissioners whose terms expire this year. I assume (and hope) Susan Brown will be reappointed. I think Chet Kilgore wants to retire. The other one is Jack Sharp.

And this is the year Haslam runs for re-election. Perhaps a bit of opportunity here, if citizens are paying attention.

jbr's picture

Any suggestions for good

Any suggestions for good potential appointees to fill MPC seats in the future. A little background on them?

Theoretically 6 of the 8 current development industry seats would go to representatives of other groups of the population.

Number9's picture

How to guide...

For many years it has been known that in both MPC, City Council, and County Commission there is a methodology to discourage citizen participation. Some of the common techniques are:

Multiple trips are required

Last minute cancellations that are not noted at the beginning of the meeting

Workshop drift

Schedule the most contentious item at the very last of the meeting

Require name and home address of all speakers even though the name and home address of government officials is not listed

Five minute limit and you must elect a spokesman to speak for your group

Urban Growth agreements are actually just suggestions and are not enforceable

Sector Plans are also just suggestions

Variances will be given as needed and over community objection

Lack of an Attorney may affect your outcome

Even if you bring 150 people MPC may ignore you

And finally the greatest weapon of all, interpretation of ordinances and sector plans

We are told time and time again that both City and County government desires citizen participation. Yet our own eyes and ears show us this is not the case.

That is why there is so much distrust Mr. Hill. Until MPC follows it's own rules that distrust will continue.

Rachel's picture

For many years it has been

For many years it has been known that in both MPC, City Council, and County Commission there is a methodology to discourage citizen participation.

Ok, I've been yelling and lobbying for better public processes fo years. I don't mean to imply that we have reached public participation nirvana, but it IS getting better, especially in the City.

I do not think there is "methodology" or an intent on the part of MPC and Council to discourage citizen participation. Commission, given yesterday's dismal showing, is another matter.

Some of the common techniques are:
Multiple trips are required

If you mean to different venues (i.e. many things are heard first by MPC, then by Council), that's designed to protect rights, not to discourage participation.

Last minute cancellations that are not noted at the beginning of the meeting

They are noted at any meetings I have attended.

Workshop drift

HUH?

Schedule the most contentious item at the very last of the meeting

These meetings have set formats. For example, Council acts on ordinances on second reading before acting on those on first reading. There is no attempt to rig the agenda to run folks off.

Require name and home address of all speakers even though the name and home address of government officials is not listed

If you have a problem with stating your name, you shouldn't be speaking.

Five minute limit and you must elect a spokesman to speak for your group

Actually, Council limits speakers to 3 on a side with 5 minutes each. MPC does only allow 5 min per side, but doesn't limit how many speakers. Both bodies have been known to waive the limits when something that attracts a lot of folks comes along.

And speaking as someone who sat through a 7 and a half hour MPC meeting a couple of weeks ago, thank God there is a limit on speakers.

Urban Growth agreements are actually just suggestions and are not enforceable

Sector Plans are also just suggestions

Well, no - the Growth Agreement has the force of law in the city and county. Sector plans are law in the city, but not in the county (Council votes to adopt the plans, but Commission just "accepts" them).

But they are plans, not ordinances, and therefore subject to some level of interpretation. I do agree that they need to be followed.

Variances will be given as needed and over community objection

Well, it's BZA, not MPC, that handles variances, but I agree they are given too freely.

Lack of an Attorney may affect your outcome

I've often wondered if this is really true. Everybody in Knox County knows who the hired gun land use lawyers are, and I hope that the governmental bodies take that into account when they speak. I suspect most members do.

Even if you bring 150 people MPC may ignore you

Yup. Because sometimes the 150 people are wrong. Look, bringing a bunch of folks to the meeting indicates a strong concern, and it should be responded to accordingly. But public participation doesn't mean that you automatically get everything you want.

We are told time and time again that both City and County government desires citizen participation. Yet our own eyes and ears show us this is not the case.

Mine show me that this is getting much better in the City.

That is why there is so much distrust Mr. Hill. Until MPC follows it's own rules that distrust will continue.

Actually I think a lot of the distrust comes from 16 years of Victor Ashe, who really did discourage and disparage public participation. But that's just me.

BTW, 9, when have I ever seen you at a public meeting? Showing up is a much better form of participation than sitting home with your keyboard.

Number9's picture

Denial is a river in Knoxville or maybe Egypt

Actually, Council limits speakers to 3 on a side with 5 minutes each. MPC does only allow 5 min per side, but doesn't limit how many speakers. Both bodies have been known to waive the limits when something that attracts a lot of folks comes along.

Why would they come to begin with?

Yup. Because sometimes the 150 people are wrong. Look, bringing a bunch of folks to the meeting indicates a strong concern, and it should be responded to accordingly. But public participation doesn't mean that you automatically get everything you want.

Oh Good Lord. Do you know how much denial you have? When have 150 people been wrong in MPC?

Well, no - the Growth Agreement has the force of law in the city and county. Sector plans are law in the city, but not in the county (Council votes to adopt the plans, but Commission just "accepts" them).

But they are plans, not ordinances, and therefore subject to some level of interpretation. I do agree that they need to be followed.

Ditto.

Rachel's picture

When have 150 people been

When have 150 people been wrong in MPC?

Breaking my own rule already. Sigh. But I'll respond to this because I think it's important. Let me repeat what I said before: public participation doesn't mean you always get everything you want.

This has been one problem with the south waterfront process - when some folks don't get their way on some item, then we hear "the process stinks." When someone disagrees with them, then we hear "we thought you were better than that. Don't you care about your community?"

Public participation doesn't mean everyone always gets everything they want. And it shouldn't necessarily mean the folks with the loudest voices (or the best lawyers) get their way, either. It means everyone gets a chance to make their case, really get listened to, and treated with respect. Along the way, governmental bodies should use this input, along with other information (about ordinances and plans, for ex.) to make good informed, fair decisions.

As for the example you ask for - this was at Commission rather than MPC. Back in the early 90s, the Main Assembly Room was packed - as in literal busloads of people - with folks who wanted an anti-gay resolution (I believe it was a resolution opposing gays in the military, which Commission had no business even acting on). They were wrong - but they got their way, along with a ton of anti-gay demagoguery from some Commissioners.

It was a disgraceful day in Knox County.

And now I really am just going to have stop reading anything with that silly cat picture on it.

Bbeanster's picture

Don't mean to pile on, here, but

I just can't let this go by:

"Lack of an Attorney may affect your outcome

I've often wondered if this is really true. Everybody in Knox County knows who the hired gun land use lawyers are, and I hope that the governmental bodies take that into account when they speak. I suspect most members do"
...................................

Surely you are not this naive, after 15 years of watching public processes around here.
Governmental bodies do indeed take the use of hired gun land use lawyers into account. Especially hired gun land use lawyers who are heavy campaign contributors. That's why people with deep pockets hire these land use lawyers. That's why these lawyers were the "Masterminds" of the Jordan v Knox County lawsuit, and that's why the point man on the plan to ram the county appointments through January 31 is one of those lawyers.

Rachel's picture

Governmental bodies do

Governmental bodies do indeed take the use of hired gun land use lawyers into account. Especially hired gun land use lawyers who are heavy campaign contributors.

Good point. And one I had not considered.

knoxnative's picture

And I Would Add

Having the MPC (and County Commission) meetings in the middle of the day when most folks are at work, and having them in a location that is mostly inaccessible to elderly or handicapped citizens.

Number9's picture

Victor Evil, Bill Good...

Bill Haslam has been abysmal on the flooding issue. The blame it on Victor scam doesn't work.

MPC ignored the sector plan on the Midway Industrial Park and also ignored the six percent slope requirement from the Development Corporation.

MPC also completely ignored and negated the Urban Growth Agreement on the South Grove shopping Center.

The Midway Industrial Park is currently in a lawsuit and the South Grove shopping Center will probably follow.

Victor was long gone on both of those. Unless of course the urban legend is true and he still controls everything via telephone from Poland.

Do you want a job with the City gemini? Falling on your sword so often has got to hurt.

Step one to getting all of this working is to overhaul MPC, KCDC, and whatever Madeline is in charge of. At least Haslam has acted on one leg of the three legged stool.

Isn't the only real difference is that the Haslam administration is nicer?

Good cop, bad cop. Nothing has really changed much.

Rachel's picture

to #9

As usual, you are engaging in twisting what someone else says.

I never said the public particpation process was perfect. I said it was getting better in the City.

I never said that MPC never made a bad decision. They do, and I'm the first to yell when they do. In fact, I've been complaining on this board just in the last few days that MPC appts need to be more balanced.

But unlike you, I try to be fair in my criticism. When I think something needs fixing, I say so. When I think it's done well, or is improving, I say so.

I try not to demonize individuals.

Unlike you and the President, I do "do nuance."

I've had it with your personal insults, directed at me and at others. You have no real interest in a dialog, or in learning new information. You simply thrive on attention and I for one am through giving it to you.

jbr's picture

How does the average citizen

How does the average citizen suggest candidates for appt to MPC?

Number9's picture

Excellent question.

How does the average citizen suggest candidates for appt to MPC?

That would depend on your relationship with the City and/or County Mayors. They make the appointments. I suggest a $1,500 campaign donation to either or both of the Mayors. That opens doors.

ultron's picture

Much like the bribery

Much like the bribery process that nets you Vols football tickets, I suspect :)

jbr's picture

Who should we approach about

Who should we approach about some mechanism modifications?

A clear, easy as possible way for the public to submit candidates.

A publicly viewable selection method

Require a balanced mixture on the committee. Ideally it should reflect the population as closely as possible.
For instance 60% of the population are not developers, or environmentalists, etc.

Two terms max

Rachel's picture

MPC

The term limits would require a change in state law.

For the rest, you would need the County and City Mayor to support. I'd write up something that's clear and concise and then send to them (or to anyone I knew on their staffs who might take an interest).

I doubt you'll get the "publicly viewable selection process." But the first item should be easy enough, and the last is something that it would be very good to get the Mayors to make a real commitment to.

Mayor Haslam has email (mayor@cityofknoxville.org) and I know he DOES read it. Don't know about Mayor Ragsdale.

Bill Lyons's picture

Campaign Contributions and Board Appts.

An interesting theory has been advanced and seconded relative to the role of campaign contributions in securing board appointments, specifically MPC. This is easily checked. Both the appointments and campaign contributions are public record. Lets take three of the major boards.. MPC, KAT, and KCDC. Mayor Haslam's appointments to the MPC board have been.. Art Clancy III, Kimberly Henry, and Robert Lobetti. Mayoral KAT appointees have been John Sibley, Charles McAfee, Essie Johnson, and Madeline Rogero. KCDC appointees are Father Ragan Shriver, Juanita Cannon, Sandra Jones, and, Culver Schmid. I believe David Hutchins was reappointed. The roster of all board members for city boards can be found on the city web site. Anybody have the data or want to make a guess on the number of contributors/average contribution from among this group?

Question... "How does the average citizen suggest candidates for appt to MPC? answer... That would depend on your relationship with the City and/or County Mayors. They make the appointments. I suggest a $1,500 campaign donation to either or both of the Mayors. That opens doors."

Bbeanster's picture

Haslam appointed Mose

Haslam appointed Mose Lobetti?

Bill Lyons's picture

Robert Lobetti

Whoops. Robert Lobetti was a Ragsdale appointee... sorry.

Rachel's picture

How does the average citizen

How does the average citizen suggest candidates for appt to MPC?

Don't know about the County, but there is a place on the City website where interested parties can submit their names.

Bbeanster's picture

"How does the average

"How does the average citizen suggest candidates for appt to MPC?
Don't know about the County, but there is a place on the City website where interested parties can submit their names."

I suspect #9's advice gets better results.

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