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Sep 7 2011
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- Ex-CDC Directors are worried and say it well (4 replies)
- Jobs numbers worst since 2020 pandemic (1 reply)
- Tennessee training MAGAs of tomorrow (4 replies)
- Knoxville, "the underrated Tennessee destination" (1 reply)
- Country protectors assigned park maintenance tasks (1 reply)
- City of Knoxville election day, Aug. 26, 2025 (1 reply)
- Proposals sought for Fall 2025 Knoxville SOUP dinner (1 reply)
- Is the Knoxville Civic Auditorium and Coliseum ugly? (1 reply)
- President says: no mail-in voting and no voting machines (2 replies)
- Will the sandwich thrower be pardoned? (3 replies)
- Medicare Part D premiums are likely to go up next year (1 reply)
- The President of the United States: there is a crime emergency in D.C. (1 reply)
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TN Politics
- 2 students hospitalized after shooting at Evergreen High School; suspected shooter dead (TN Lookout)
- US Senate votes down measure to force release of Epstein files (TN Lookout)
- Charlie Kirk killed at Utah Valley University, search for shooter continues (TN Lookout)
- Judge denies new trial for former Tennessee House Speaker Casada, ex-aide Cothren (TN Lookout)
- John Cole’s Tennessee: Lapdog (TN Lookout)
- Democrats spar over electability at Tennessee Congressional District 7 forum (TN Lookout)
Knox TN Today
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- The Other Side (Knox TN Today)
- Busy week for Knox County land sales (Knox TN Today)
- Feral Kitty workshop at PSCC September 16 (Knox TN Today)
- Weekend Scene offers Puzzle Competition to Movie in a Cave (Knox TN Today)
- HEADLINES from world to local: Never Forget 9/11/01 (Knox TN Today)
- ‘My Botanical Life with Hemlocks,’ a Zoom program with Peter Del Tredici (Knox TN Today)
- Sobieski to speak at Farragut Museum (Knox TN Today)
- Wallace Real Estate joins United Way’s Week of Caring as Silver Sponsor (Knox TN Today)
- 3rd annual Walk 2 Remember & Car Show benefits Our PLACE Adult Day Center (Knox TN Today)
- Jane Austen comes to life at Clarence Brown Theatre (Knox TN Today)
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- Hamilton County Commission considers changing meeting time - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Have the Vols caught up to the Bulldogs physically? - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
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If not a bit naiive
Yeah, and George W. promised us a 'kinder and gentler' presidency, before offering to smash the testicles of a man's son in front of him. Me, I'd prefer to see actions rather than take someone's word that they'll be different once they get in office. Really? Stancil or Berney would be a much better choice here. Wallace even admitted he didn't bother going to a SINGLE Ridgetop meeting before the plan came out, but certainly got involved in killing a plan he later implied he hadn't even read.
THIS is your endorsement for Seat A? Seriously?
As far as Roddy goes, I hope you're right, but I don't know if she'll have the backbone to stand up on these issues. I stood by when she was challenged on the evolution in the classroom issue, and it was pretty clear she was unwilling to stand up for what the Supreme Court has even ruled on.
My read is that while DeFreese might be a little right-wing, she seems to be the only one who actually thinks for herself, and would stand up for a good decision. It would just be a matter of reaching her and presenting a good argument to her.
I've seen a lot of pre-candidate postings from her on FB, and she appears to have empathy and a great deal of concern for the working class and not a lot of love for the powers that be. Maybe she only sees the light 10% of the time, but if so, that's 10% more than we're would ever see out of Roddy and Duncan-4.
Seat A was the hardest
Seat A was the hardest choice, as we wrote. Personally, I don't have a big problem with any of the three joining Council. They all have pluses and minuses. But in terms of who's likely to be the best, most energetic, and most effective Council member, we think it's Wallace. There's a lot more to being a good Council member (especially an at-large Council member) than your views on any one issue. We (or some of us) have talked to all of these candidates in depth, we've looked at their backgrounds, we've talked to other people who have worked with them and have known them for years, and we also had them answer long questionnaires for us. (Which are on our website for anyone who wants to read them.) And that's where we ultimately came down.
As for DeFreese, she's "a little right wing" the same way Yao Ming is a little tall. It's not like she tries to hide it, she's an out and proud aggressive conservative. I enjoyed reading her questionnaire (she was the only one to throw in a Paul Simon lyric just for the fun of it), and I like her energy. But we pretty much don't agree with her on anything. And unlike Council, the Senate is very much a partisan body. Ideology matters, and DeFreese has an ideology that we just don't share. We're not enthusiastic about Roddy, as I believe the endorsement makes clear, and there is another endorsement to come in the general. But we're realistic about the chances of a Democrat being elected to that seat, so we just want everyone to be apprised of their options.
Don't confuse energy with intellectual curiosity
What good is energy? Wallace's resistance to being involved in the Ridgetop discussions belies a lack of intellectual curiosity about the issues. His mind was already made up. So, without intellectual curiosity, what good is energy?
I still hold the same belief about VDF- from my discussions with her, she has more intellectual curiosity than Roddy, Duncan-4, and Wallace put together. Not as much as I would like, but I've gotten places in conversation with her, while watching Roddy discuss the education / evolution issue, it was like arguing with a brick wall with a layer of Jello in front of it.
We don't think Wallace has a
We don't think Wallace has a lack of intellectual curiosity. Again, this is based on our experiences talking with him, looking at what he's done and been involved in, his capacity to work with other people, his answers to our questions, etc. But obviously that's not how he strikes us. We wouldn't have endorsed him if he did. If he gets elected, he'll have opportunity to prove us right or wrong.
And I don't know which Victoria DeFreese you've been talking to, but she ain't the one running for office. I agree with you that she comes across as smart enough -- she's not a dummy -- but she's a true-believing hard-core conservative. Which is fine if that's who you want in office, not so much if you don't. Quoting from her answer to one of our questions:
Not a lot of wiggle room there.
Not trying to be obnoxious,
Not trying to be obnoxious, quoting from myself, but:
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She has also repeatedly said she supports Campfield's "guns on campuses" bill.
All of which is a-ok is that's what you also believe! Because many people do. And I'm not saying they're wrong. Just don't want people confused about who they're voting for.
Stacey Campfield also has some lengthy video interviews with all three candidates on his blog, if you want some perspective on issues from a different point of view. And he asks all of them the same set of questions. That would be a another great way for people who might have missed a candidate forum to see the candidates in action.
No, I'm not surprised.
I just get a read from her that her conservatism is based in a lack of information, not a bull-headed stupidity and tenacious avoiding of facts. I could be wrong, but that's been my read.
She went to Johnson Bible
She went to Johnson Bible College. Her views seem pretty in line with that school. She's quite intelligent, don't get me wrong, but I don't think she's conservative because she hasn't thought out her philosophy.
Wallace's resistance to being
Wallace's resistance to being involved in the Ridgetop discussions belies a lack of intellectual curiosity about the issues. His mind was already made up. So, without intellectual curiosity, what good is energy?
I haven't made up my mind in the Seat A race, but I think that George deserves a bit more credit. Yes, he bought the developer/homebuilder line 100% in the past. But when I talked to him about the issue recently, and asked him to go talk with the MPC planner, he did - immediately. And he seems to have learned something from that discussion. Maybe not enough to change his position on H/R - I haven't asked him - but enough to make him realize that everything his buddies were telling him wasn't even close to true.
Also, I know he's gone to meet with all the City Department heads. That sounds to me like somebody who wants to learn.
Look, the guy started with pretty much no knowledge of city politics or issues - or even geography outside of west knoxville - and he's obviously got a long way to go. But I see some evidence that he's interested in learning, and I think he should get credit for that, whether he gets your vote or not.
Sounds more like he's a good politician.
Told you what you wanted to hear. Did a little visible 'meeting with department heads' so he could check that off his candidate checklist and say "I've met with the heads of all departments."
I could be wrong, but I'm still waiting to see one actual action or statement that would demonstrate that he actually did something with his new information. After talking with the MPC planner, did he go to someone on the Chamber board to relate his new found information, and maybe there are some developer goodies in the plan that make it palatable?
Someone who is running for office, is criticized for not listening, and then in reaction pretends to listen.... as I said, I could be wrong, but I just don't see it, considering where his paycheck comes from.
I see Stancil or Burney as much more open-minded people, and I don't see how "energy" makes up for years of inaction, incuriosity, and a lack of geographical understanding of the city he hopes to represent. I'm absolutely sure Stancil could name and describe all the sectors of the city.
(Oddly enough, H/R plan doesn't have much impact on the city per se, but City Council is in a position to push Commission, and I'm concerned Wallace's campaign is attempt to weaken that).
And maybe...
...the other candidates (Stancil and Burney) may appear "less energetic" because they aren't talking a fast game, but actually listening to their constituency. Just a thought.
Yup. Who knows? Like I said,
Yup. Who knows? Like I said, I think all three could be decent Council reps, and I have reservations about all three. We give Wallace the edge, we stated our caveats, we'll see what happens.
Didn't quite get the veiled
Didn't quite get the veiled swing at Padgett, but they certainly hammered Peabody. Bad blood, I guess, and justifiably so.
Their reasoning on some of the other picks was curious at best. Sounds like old school Metro Pulse Joe Sullivan "can't we all just get along" style waffling, I guess.
Anyway, I thought Padgett did a credible job in the most recent debate. And so did Bo Bennett, all things considered. He should run for Council next time. I like his style.
Regardless, Madeline is clearly the most qualified candidate for Mayor, so they at least got that right.
On the Senate race, I was opposed to DeFreese, but I guess I can go along with the idea that she would be the most ineffective and most crazy of the GOP bunch in the primary, which might give Johnson a fighting chance in the general, or at least she would not be able to do much damage if she got elected. But then that's also what people thought about Campfield. Never underestimate East TN GOP crazy.
I like Bo, too, and I think
I like Bo, too, and I think he would have done better to run for council. He's got a lot of guts to get in the race, though.
Was curious why he wasn't mentioned in the most recent article in the MP?
Was curious why he wasn't
Because space is limited and he's not a serious candidate. Ditto McBath and Cochran. Anyone can run for office -- it's easy to get your name on the ballot -- but that doesn't obligate anybody to pay attention to you. Bennett seems like a nice guy from what I've seen in forums, but he's no more of a factor in the mayoral race than Donald Duck (who I once wrote in for a Council seat). We've mentioned him before, and if he'd replied to our questionnaire we would have posted it on the website along with all the other ones.
thanks
Thanks, was just curious, not angry. No need to be so harsh on the guy. I still think he has guts to get out there...more than a lot of other loud mouth know it alls who just spout off around here...including myself.
I don't mean to sound harsh.
I don't mean to sound harsh. He does seem like a nice guy. But there are candidates like that in every election, and paying them more attention than they deserve distracts from the things that matter in the race.
Gloria can beat Victoria DeepFreeze
I don't know why anyone hasn't suggested before this crossing over in the Primary to put in the one candidate Gloria can beat. The Repugs do this all the time. Vote DeepFreeze for the win.
Either that or have Duncan in that seat for life.
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You said:
MP said:
Ah, I get it now. Thanks.
Ah, I get it now. Thanks.
Fwiw, that wasn't only aimed
Fwiw, that wasn't only aimed at Padgett.
Aha.
jump straight to the executive level like some other scions of prominent local families.
He's the only current candidate that meets that criteria. Perhaps you're referring to past candidates?
Really?
... starts with a "D", ends with an "uncan."
Not running for an executive
Not running for an executive position.
Perhaps.
Aye.
I would suggest that anyone
I would suggest that anyone planning to vote in this primary check out Roddy and DeFreese's records on Council and Commission, respectively, in you're not already familiar with them.
I would suggest that anyone
I would suggest that anyone planning to vote in this primary read our extensive coverage of the Senate race here:
(link...)
Not saying this in relation to any endorsements, just pointing out that my interviews and this week's candidate questionnaires should give you a more rounded picture than some Facebook postings, so that whomever you choose to vote for, you will be doing so somewhat better informed. Informed voters are happy voters. (Or something.)
should give you a more
should give you a more rounded picture than some Facebook postings, so that whomever you choose to vote for, you will be doing so somewhat better informed
I think most folks would agree that KnoxViews readers are likely some of the most informed, engaged, and active voters in the area. But thanks.
We're just trying to help
We're just trying to help them stay that way.
More information is never a
More information is never a bad a thing. And no matter how much people try to keep up with things, sometimes they miss stories. I know I do, and I get paid to keep up with all of this. If every commenter here has already read everything we've ever posted about the races, then I'm incredibly ecstatic.
We aim to please
We linked to a lot of the MP election coverage here:
(link...)
(It would be nice if y'all had some kind of article tags or keywords or something. It's hard to search out.)
We'd love that too. Alas, not
We'd love that too. Alas, not gonna happen any time soon.
And BTW, I don't say that to
And BTW, I don't say that to endorse or slam either of them. Just good advice, since they have records to look at.