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Feb 11 2016
08:22 pm
bizgrrl's picture

How embarrassing.

How embarrassing.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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Only a high school diploma or GED is required to run for the office, of course, but I was told that the general practice is for a candidate to offer the Election Commission a copy of his highest ranking diploma? Wonder what Graybeal turned in to the EC?

Anyway, seems like if he has a college diploma hanging on the wall at his place, he could snuff any questions easily enough.

Don Daugherty's picture

Sure he did

I'm sure he did attend UT and maybe even received his degree there, but if so, all of it would have in . . . The Twilight Zone. This guy couldn't get accepted to the College of Engineering if his last name was Min Kao, Tickle, Haslam, or Manning. His recent nonsense is characteristic of this man's other foray into politics in 2008 when he ran, unfortunately, as a Democrat. Seemed like he was in the Twilight Zone back then as well. It appears he simply thought no one would bother to check. Given his pitifully run campaign and horrible tv appearances, I'm surprised anyone did bother. But this little trick should stick a fork in him for maybe another 8 years, or at least until he runs again. Probably run as a Green Party candidate then. Hey, maybe he can take 4 of those 8 years and actually get accepted at UT and earn an engineering degree. . . .

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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Agreed that this looks pretty lame on his part. Neither has his response to date been adequate.

mwhite's picture

Anyone check his age at time of graduation?

According to the Knox News yesterday, he is 42 years old. He claimed to have graduated from UT "23 years" ago. So....he graduated with an Engineering degree at the, wait for it, .....ripe old age of 19. He has a BS degree alright but it has nothing to do with a Bachelor of Science.

Bad Candidate's picture

clearly a prodigy

He must be really smart.

BrianHornbackdotCom's picture

Tamara

Only the school board is required to present a proof of high school graduation. No other position is required to submit a diploma. That is part of the 1992 Law that made school board non partisan and Superintedent appointed

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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Oh, okay. Thanks, Brian.

R. Neal's picture

Graybeal doubles down,

Pickens's picture

So he can't discuss his own

So he can't discuss his own education because some law prevents it?

I never knew my doctor and dentist had been violating the law for so many years with diplomas on their wall and their websites saying where they went to school. (/sarcasm)

Smokey TheDog's picture

Woof

Graybeal claims that his receipt for ordering a transcript from UT is evidence that he must have attended. Why would they let me even place the order if there is no transcript, he wonders aloud.

UT transcript orders are handled by an outside company (outsourcing, anyone?). I just went through the online ordering process up to the last step asking for a credit card. All the info entered was bogus. The only verification in this process is going to be for the credit card. They don't even start looking for your transcript until you've paid the bill. I'm not going to waste ten bucks to prove a point, but my guess is that Graybeal's intent is to string this along until after the March 1 primary, which decides this seat, because there is no Democratic candidate. If he loses, no one will bother to follow up to ask if he ever got the transcript. If he were to win, well, who ever got kicked out of office for lying during the campaign?

There is no transcript. UT has already said they never offered the degree he claims to have earned, and wouldn't have accepted transfer credits from ITT as he has claimed. While running in previous elections, he only claims the ITT degree. Who forgets to mention that they earned a college degree? According to the guy's own timeline claimed now, he would have had to have graduated from UT at 19.

There's something pathological going on here. This particular yarn wasn't even necessary in the first place. The degree's not necessary for the job, and not having it would never have been an issue had it not been falsely claimed.

Woof.

joeblow's picture

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He and his Idiot lawyer obviously don't know what FERPA is.

KO's picture

My favorite story of the year...

R. Neal's picture

Heh. No kidding. (link...)

Heh. No kidding.

(link...)

KO's picture

I heard he was the Navy SEAL

I heard he was the Navy SEAL who shot Bin Laden. Before that, he invented the Internet.

CathyMcCaughan's picture

(No subject)

<- Sends college transcript to Harvard ->

Somebody's picture

Even without a transcript,

Even without a transcript, you'd think the guy could offer up some artifact or morsel of evidence from the time, if he actually had attended. A student ID, a receipt or report card. Maybe the names of some professors or classes attended. What about memories of buildings or life on campus. Parking tickets! Everybody gets parking tickets at UT. He could describe a typical day of going to class, or find someone he knew at the time who remembers him as a UT student. Attending college is a universally formative experience. Most people still have physical memorabilia from those times. Even if all that went up in a fire, everyone has vivid memories of those experiences.

bizgrrl's picture

Possibly a good idea.

Possibly a good idea. However, twenty years later he might only have memories. Hate to admit, but twenty years after college I didn't remember the names of any professors.

Bbeanster's picture

I remember every teacher I

I remember every teacher I had from Mrs. Bass in the first grade through Old Man Underwood in the 7th grade and Mrs Clapp in the 8th grade, many of my high school teachers, and all of the college, law school and grad school teachers whom I care to recall.

bizgrrl's picture

I do remember some of my

I do remember some of my grade school and high school teachers, Mrs. Peters probably because she chased a kid (good friend) out of the school in the 7th grade. He had yelled Stokley Carmichael for president. Mrs. Phillips in the 6th grade, she yanked another friend up by the hair. How about Mrs. Davis in the 5th grade, she taught how to knit. Mrs. Burke in high school. She assigned Mr. and Mrs. Bo Jo Jones to read. Mr. D'Andrea, our band director. He divorced his wife and married a student, after she graduated. I could go on.

College, nada. I do remember a few, but no names. I was a non-traditional student, night school and after 30. Didn't hang around campus.

Bbeanster's picture

Mr. DeAndrea? Wow! He was my

Mr. DeAndrea?
Wow!
He was my brother John's band director at Gibbs. He was the one who encouraged John to play trumpet, and got him a scholarship offer to UT.

Instead, John opted for the chance to play football at Tennessee Tech, took steroids to bulk up and ended up with Hodgkins Disease.

I often think about what might have been.

But he loved Mr. D. Gave him an exploding cigar one time.

bizgrrl's picture

Yeah, he was well liked at

Yeah, he was well liked at Doyle. I took flute lessons from him. We had a great drum section and, of course, a great trumpet player:) I believe he moved to UT Martin.

jmcnair's picture

Tony

Yep. Chattanooga, and he retired in 2004. As you know there weren't too many E. TN high school bands doing halftime shows based on Italian opera.

bizgrrl's picture

We did Pagliacci at a band

We did Pagliacci at a band competition. The Mr. did an excellent trumpet solo. We had it in the bag. Then, the Drum Major did an Italian gesture towards the judges. The judges took offense. We did not win.

Eli Pacetti, from UT Knoxville at the time, was a great influence on D'Andrea.

Bbeanster's picture

Mr. D, was a huge influence

Mr. D, was a huge influence on John, who'd taken piano lessons as a child, and took up trumpet after he got to high school. I was out of state (and overseas) for two years when John was in HS, but I was here when he graduated, and got to hear his senior concert. I was amazed at how good he was. Amazed at how good that band was, as a whole.

I'll always remember this trio:

(link...)

As I implied above, I think John would probably still be with us if he hadn't chosen football over music when he was 17.

bizgrrl's picture

Beautiful. I really like

Beautiful. I really like horns and love one special trumpet player.

Band was great for me. It was like a big family. I can understand why you think your brother should have chosen music over football.

Sandra Clark's picture

Interesting

Adults who grew up in a calm environment remember school as a violent place ... while kids who grew up in uncertainty and even fear remember school as a safe place.

Same school.

bizgrrl's picture

Explain further?

Explain further?

Somebody's picture

That's all fascinating, but

That's all fascinating, but the point is, this guy should remember some pretty convincing details of going to UT, especially if, by his own reckoning, he graduated at age 19. So far his only recollection seems to be that he went to ITT (at age 15?), transferred to UT, worked his way through school and graduated at age 19. There's not much detail to that, which is odd, since he was obviously a hard-working, highly motivated child prodigy. You don't start life with a remarkable story like that and then forget everything about it later.

bizgrrl's picture

Just having a little fun.

Just having a little fun.

B Harmon's picture

2008 resume

I may have missed this elsewhere, but here is a link to the resume he submitted in 2008.

R. Neal's picture

Looks like he forgot to put

Looks like he forgot to put UT on his resume and only recently remembered attending.

Bbeanster's picture

Thinking back, Gibbs was a

Thinking back, Gibbs was a little bitty old country school (it's probably the smallest HS in the county even now, and it was much smaller then), but John had some amazing teachers: DeAndrea, Roy Mullins, Shirley Underwood, Ed House.

Ken Sparks was his football coach – I think that was his first coaching job.

It surely seems like an all-star cast to me.

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