Wed
May 5 2010
11:06 am
By: knoxvegas99
Just received this:
For Immediate Release
May 5, 2010
Knoxville, TN
Last night's election results reflect a mandate from the public for a new change in the Knox County's Mayor Office and the election of Tim Burchett. I am announcing today my support for Mr. Burchett. I am making this announcement today in the hope that Tim take the next three months getting as prepared as necessary to take on the implementation of what I believe will be a very difficult budget for 2011. I wish him the best of luck.
Lewis Cosby
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Now that's not funny!
Now that's not funny!
I just heard this on the
I just heard this on the radio. Noooooooooooooooooo!
Why can't this be April fools day.
Now I am pissed.
Wow, that's pretty big news.
Wow, that's pretty big news.
Burchett still has to get past Maize (D) and Bedwell (I) in the general, though. Technically speaking. Heh.
But seriously, Cosby dropping out eliminates whatever remote chance that one of the other candidates might gain some small advantage from a split R vote.
I'm also guessing that Cosby is looking at that big scary 85% number.
On the one hand, hooray it's
On the one hand, hooray it's time to load up on beer and chips, grab a comfy lawn chair and join the Didgit suicide watch.
On the other hand, you bastard!
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It's a free country rikki. That was Cosby's choice to make. I am disappointed that another Mayor is elected in the Primary with very little debate. I am disappointed that the daily paper has this much influence. But it is what it is. Tim Burchett got elected by saying "trust and transparency". As jfm said the other day, we expect that at the very least. The biggest disappointment is that Burchett made no real commitments beyond the expected norm of "trust and transparency". Few details. Few specifics. He got a walk. The last time that happened it didn't work out so well. Some day we will learn that when we elect people without them making real commitments we may face great disappointment. But what do I know? I supported Mike Ragsdale in his first term. Tim Burchett is our Mayor. I hope he does a good job. Considering the challenges he will face I hope everyone supports him and it works out.
9, your candidate this time
9, your candidate this time was a corrupt poltical hack who's going to get his day in court.
Hearing you talk about openess and transparency would be like listening to Hitler preach to other nations about human rights: it gags me.
Well, I did not see THAT
Well, I did not see THAT coming.
Has anybody checked to see if #9's head exploded yet?
OTOH, he might be happy. Burchett in office gives him something to complain about for the next few years.
I'm also guessing that Cosby
I'm also guessing that Cosby is looking at that big scary 85% number.
Precisely, Randy.
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I am disappointed
I think he had a shot. Not everybody is so thrilled with Burchett.
Cosby's strength is financial analysis, attacks on Ragsdale
Burchett would be foolish not to ask Cosby to serve as his initial finance director, at least for the first 2 years or the first term. Burchett need not get down into the financial morass details of the county's budget, but Cosby has sufficient credibility and persuasive ability to engender some realistic financial reform in County Government. Burchett doesn't want to make anybody mad, but the county has got to get out of the car business like the city did and get back to being public servants not being pricely servants.
Cosby over finance department?
I agree, Metulj, and the school system also enjoys a level of autonomy--with regard to the significant impact of their having line-item budget control over 63% of total county expenditures, anyway.
I see it's possibly being a smart move politically, at least in some quarters, but I'm just not sure that's really needed or even advisable.
Aside from the fact that John Troyer is a CPA and Cosby isn't, and aside from the fact that Troyer has years with the finance department even before his promotion to head, the poor guy has done nothing but mop up ever since that promotion. I can see discontent with Werner, but Troyer? Why? I've never heard anyone suggest he is anything but a straight arrow.
And I thought that press release Cosby issued Monday was especially ill-informed. Calling on his political opponents to "join him" in anything was naive, of course, but I'm really referring to his apparent lack of instituional knowledge about how departments relate to one another in local government. For example, his assertion that "all take home cars and car allowances will be eliminated" on his would-have-been swearing-in date isn't even possible, the finance department told me. They said the mayor can't make that decision for the fee offices OR for the school system.
Then too, that press release urged the current administration to "reduce the use of the rainy day fund and reduce spending," when the mayor's chosen alternative to sap reserves is probably the most palatable one we have among our less-than-tasty options (I noted Mayshark thinks similarly).
Does Cosby realize that we haven't had a local tax increase in six years (relative to a historical pattern of increases every four years), that we haven't had a state tax increase in eight years (relative to a historical pattern of sales tax rate increases every seven years), and that imposing one now is virtually impossible (given an unemployment rate of 10-ish%)? I don't know what makes for "rainy days," if not the days we're in now.
So again, what's the complaint with Troyer?
What's the complaint with
What's the complaint with Troyer?
I don't get this either. I used to cringe every time Werner got up before County Commission because he came across as incompetent, ill-prepared, or just not able to deal with Commission.
Troyer seems to know what he's doing tho.
An unfounded complaint?
I did see some folks over at the KNS point the finger at Troyer because Ragsdale kept his so-called "travel allowance" on top of his county vehicle, they said, and it was Troyer whom they said recorded the line-item transfer to define that compensation correctly, as compensation other than an actual travel allowance.
Two years after that audit my recollection is fuzzy, but I was thinking auditors' last word was that it was Ragsdale's prerogative to pay the amounts, even to employees issued a county vehicle, provided they were recorded correctly (i.e., NOT as travel allowances) and provided employee W-2s reflected the amounts as taxable income?
My opinion about the complaint leveled at KNS, then, was that 1) while we are free to complain that Ragsdale receives the compensation, we can't complain that it's shady for him to receive it, and 2) because he's receiving it, it's appropriate that Troyer record it in the manner auditors instructed, and 3) I doubt seriously that it was Troyer's decision to set the level or type of compensation to be received by his boss.
That is, this is my opinion if I remember the results of the travel audit correctly. Do I?
(And I don't even know if these folks are correct that Ragsdale kept the compensation, when he ended it for everyone else. Anyone recall?)
Not necessarily
Dems could have switched and voted for Cosby in the General. But that wouldn't have made a difference.
Assume 65-35 split for R-D in the county. Assume every Dem voted for Burchett in the primary. That still means Burchett got 86 - 32 = 44/65, or at least 65% of republicans (more realistically like 75%).
Of course, Cosby need only get more votes than Burchett, not 50%, since we don't have runoffs. If Cosby could claim 40% of Republican votes, it would be within reach with Dem crossover in the general. But were half of those Burchett votes from Republicans just anti-Hutch votes? Probably not.
Cosby has said many times
Cosby has said many times that he isn't looking for a job, so I don't think he would be Burchett's chief financial officer. Of course I didn't think he would drop out either. But, he can offer some great ideas to them with our county budget.
unfortunately I agree....he
unfortunately I agree....he did not need the job and with the abuse he was subjected to, like being called a 'functional illiterate' and having his ethics questioned, why would he bother....IMHO he probably felt, if the people want this, let them have it. He has already done a great deal for the county and had little in return.
Thanks Lewis for what you have done. Hope you keep on top of it.
Once again
(Sigh. She's everywhere I go. I'll just cut and paste some of our exchange from the KNS...)
I think you misunderstand my previous comments concerning Cosby, Shannon.
I have never questioned his motives; I have, however, questioned his judgement and, more recently, his ethics.
What I said with regard to the Ragsdale probe is that I felt he should have stepped aside once an independent audit conducted by the State Comptroller's Office began, and I still think that.
I said I found his offer of "help" to them, when the independence of the review was so important (and when he was not an active CPA and when other CPAs who are active saw no need to become involved in the Comptroller's Office's responsibilities) was inappropriate from a professional standpoint, and I still think that.
I also said that I questioned the recent decision of the Ethics Committee, under Cosby's leadership, that the Ragsdale administration had committed an ethical breach by virtue of their determination that he was guilty of "official oppression" against Richard Walls.
The DA's office confirmed my observation when they advised the Committee that the Ragsdale administration had a First Amendment right to level their allegations against Walls and, more to the point, that the administration's acts did not fulfill the legal definition of "official oppression."
I also pointed out to you that Cosby had a responsibility to recuse himself from deciding any ethics issue involving the mayor's office at all, if at the time of the hearing he had this accusatory website up...
(link...)
...and I asked you if you understand that when we go about defending Truth and Justice very much, we have a responsibility to be sure we do it consistently.
And yes, I have expressed my concern that Cosby is a poor writer, although it is not surprising to me that you personally do not recognize that.
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Too long, didn't read.
You act like you are afraid that since Cosby is still on the ballot that people will vote for him as some kind of protest against the entrenched political system.
FERRIS COSBY FOR MAYOR
Birds of a feather
Nine said: "Too long, didn't read."
Funny, Shannon said essentially the same thing to me earlier today.
Might be why neither one of you generally understands an issue very well.
Dinner's ready. Bye.
i've read with some amusement
i've read with some amusement Shannon's contention that your criticism probably ran Lewis off.
Pretty dumb.
Lewis looked at the numbers and made a business decision. He's smart that way.
$$$ + 85% = See Ya
Cosby didn't have the contributers to get the $100,000 needed to spend on the tee-vee..just to get in the game.And I'm guessing he didn't want to write a $100K check..on a longshot.
And Burchett's 85% froze everybody..that could get Cosby going in the ground war.
I admit I speculated,this morning,that Cosby,with tee-vee $$$ & Cosby's knowlege of budgets..could make it a race.