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Feb 1 2016
01:45 pm
From knoxnews.com
Pavlis said that while he's concerned for customers who may get pulled into the cycle of payday loans, there's little government can do when it comes to legal businesses. Rather, he said, the goal of zoning changes is to keep property values increasing and continuing the development and revitalization momentum across the city.
"I think the impression," he said. "I think it sends the wrong impression as to what I envision and I think all of South Knoxville envisions itself to be."
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I think the city should
I think the city should provide fundamental personal finance advice close to these businesses sort of like the blood donation mobile vehicle. Also regularly at branch libraries. And I think the businesses should have to advertise these prominently in their front window. Can the city require that?
Form over substance, you can't outlaw a bad local economy
Most of the growth in South Knoxville has come from the residential growth in and around Seymour which is predominately in Blount and Sevier County (the schools are in Sevier County). Pavlis can wish all he wants about what South Knoxville ought to be, piss in one hand wish in the other and see which fills up first.
The absence of any semblance of a local for profit economy in South Knoxville lends itself to these pay day lenders popping up from time to time, but rather than try and address the real problem, zone them out of business or restrict their signage to where they are invisible? Hospital is gone, rock pile is there, the $9 million for Regal promises new jobs, but we know how that will turn out and there won't be any measurable impact from the city's $9 million, it should look good on the river, but that is how the city rolls, form over substance, how it looks over how it is.
Good for Nick Pavlis.
Good for Nick Pavlis.
Driving down Chapman Highway between downtown and Young High Pike you'd think payday lending and title loans are the primary industries driving Knoxville's economy.
But these predatory lenders go where there is prey.
We need to look longer term at improving economic opportunity in the community. That would result in less demand for their "services."
The South Waterfront and other initiatives are a good start. We hope the rising tide floats all boats.
You know...
They're actually starting to move that rubble. And in 3-4 years when all these projects get finished, downtown will hardly be recognizable. It'll all be very worth it.
History Matters
We need to be mindful that in the past before the payday lenders sprang up, financial regulations were so restrictive that legit businesses couldn't serve these people.
Since they couldn't get legal loans, people went to loan sharks. The number of people using these lead to leaders realizing that as much as the terms stink, it was better to allow this activity to occur legally where it could be monitored rather than the black market. At least pay day lenders don't break windows and legs to get their money.
Loan sharks came about in the 19th century after a crack down on pay day lending. I'm sure those folks would love to see Knoxville and other cities kill off the pay day lenders to they can swoop in.
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modern stuff:
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Which financial regulations do you speak of?
(in reply to Allen Allen)
Payday lending really took off when state laws preventing USURY were repealed, reworded to not include this kind of lending, or lawsuits were filed to argue and create case law that usury laws did not apply.
Payday lenders are the result of a regulatory rollback, not more regulations.
#FAIL
(And how many of these lenders serve 'businesses' anyway? Even single owner businesses? Hah.)
Banks and credit cards
(in reply to Allen Allen)
The banks and credit cards put the mob out of the loan sharking industry. Pay day lenders are merely the vultures picking at the last of the carcass of the poor.
from Consumer Financial
from Consumer Financial Protection Bureau …
CFPB Office of Research
CFPB in Nashville on Pay Day Loans
from Consumerist … 44 states
from Consumerist …
Most State Laws Can’t Protect Borrowers From Predatory Installment Loans, Open-End Lines Of Credit
Tennessee banks are no
Tennessee banks are no different than payday lenders. Payday by debit card became big business at truck stops and now it has expanded into many low paying jobs. With banks charging withdrawal, overdraft, and checking balance fees, too many low income workers are making below minimum wage. Federal labor laws prohibit fees on wages, but Tennessee does not investigate or enforce the law, saying it's the employees responsibility to address it in court.
Some states prohibit employers from requiring direct deposit, unless employees can withdraw their pay without fees. In California, employers must ensure employees can cash or withdraw their pay within five miles of their work place. Many truck drivers must use banks that have no physical locations to withdraw pay and ATMs are only located at truck stops. The fees are higher and withdrawals limits are lower. The major ATM bank at truck stops is located in Memphis.
Cognitive Dissonance
TN Legislature wants to pass law making the Bible the Official Book:
(link...)
Exodus:
“If you lend money to any of my people with you who is poor, you shall not be like a moneylender to him, and you shall not exact interest from him."
I like Ezikiel better, tho:
"Lends at interest, and takes profit; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself."
Leviticus, which all the wingnuts love to quote:
"You shall not lend him your money at interest".
Who uses Pay Day Loans?
from Pew Center on the States ..
Payday Lending in America: Who Borrows, Where They Borrow, and Why