Mon
Mar 5 2007
10:40 pm

The latest from John Edwards is starting to tie things together, as he tells us what Jesus thinks:

Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards says Jesus would be appalled at how the United States has ignored the plight of the suffering, and that he believes children should have private time to pray at school."

This is a vignette of Edwards in his days as a trial lawyer who spoke in tongues:

"She speaks to you through me," the lawyer went on in his closing argument. "And I have to tell you right now — I didn't plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you."

And like Oral Roberts, during the 2004 elections John Edwards promised he can heal you:

"We will do stem cell research," he vowed. "We will stop juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating diseases. America just lost a great champion for this cause in Christopher Reeve. People like Chris Reeve will get out of their wheelchairs and walk again with stem cell research."

John Edwards, TV preacher.

The Dude's picture

According to the Christian

According to the Christian Bible, Jesus helped the poor. That is our guidebook. Granted it is based totally on faith, not fact, thats is what the New Testiment says in regards to Jesus.

I believe it is pretty clear he's not painting himself as a "Jesus-like" figure. He's saying stem cell research will, in his opinion, help people.

This is so stupid I can't even believe I'm about to click "post comment".

Andy Axel's picture

George W. Bush, Agent of God?

"I trust God speaks through me."

"I believe that God wants me to be president."

"I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

"I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East."

--George W. Bush

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Tamara Shepherd's picture

Target audience

From Les's text: "Edwards, in an interview with the Web site Beliefnet.com..."

Personally, I don't find it odd that Edwards framed his comments this way, given his target audience. It sounds as if he just chose a context for his assertions that this particular audience could best understand and appreciate.

I don't understand the comments about prayer in schools, though. It's a widespread misconception that students cannot pray in schools--they can, and they do, every day. Middle and high schools everywhere offer oodles of before- and after-school clubs relating to students' religions, too.

The conflicts arise when students (or sometimes teachers and administrators) mistakenly assert a right to lead others in prayer, or to engage in religious studies during the school hours designated by state policies to be used in other endeavors.

I sure wish Edwards, or somebody, would just explain that.

Les Jones's picture

Different reactions

I just found Edwards second and third statements up there sleazy and hucksterish. It's not the religious content, it's the televangelism act that I find repellant.

Telling a jury that you're channeling the voice of a brain-damaged child? That's disgusting.

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Tamara Shepherd's picture

Yeah...

Les: "Telling a jury that you're channeling the voice of a brain-damaged child? That's disgusting."

Yeah, I'm with ya on that...

Number9's picture

Talk about bringing it...

Andy Axel's picture

Telling a jury that you're

Telling a jury that you're channeling the voice of a brain-damaged child? That's disgusting.

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R. Neal's picture

Apparently he was an

Apparently he was an effective advocate for his client, who was able to get compensation for a needed lifetime of care, not to mention establishing case law to protect future patients from the same fate.

Campbell v. Pitt County Memorial Hosp.
(Pitt County, NC, 1985) Infant born with cerebral palsy after breech birth via vaginal delivery, rather than cesarean. Established North Carolina precedent of physician and hospital liability for failing to determine if patient understood risks of particular procedure. Medical
Malpractice. $5.75M settlement.

Good for John Edwards.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

"Large" malpractice settlements: My bias

Randy: "Apparently he was an effective advocate for his client, who was able to get compensation for a needed lifetime of care..."

Yes, Randy, and my admitted bias in the question of whether these malpractice settlements are "too large" is that I bring some personal life experience WRT to costs, financial and emotional, of caring for an invalid family member.

For the last two years, until my younger sister and I placed Mom in Hillcrest North on December 18, 2006, I've shared in providing care for an 80 year-old final stage Alzheimers patient, who also suffers from a plethora of other health problems.

Until we've delivered in-home care to an invalid loved one, it's impossible to understand the crushing burden of feeding, bathing, dressing, and attending his or her every need--personal, household, and financial. Caring for an *adult* invalid is all the more difficult (just one stark reality is pottying, which requires *two* assistants--one to steady the invalid on his/her feet, and another to pull down the adult Depend; given that we sometimes had to call on neighbors for help, Mom's Alzheimers was a blessing to her sense of personal pride...).

Neither Medicare nor the vast majority of private insurance policies covers the sitter care truly necessary to allow family members the peace of mind to leave such a home-bound invalid in any outsider's care. At $20 per hour, the cost of hiring someone to oversee the invalid during 16 waking hours daily runs around $320 daily, over $80,000 annually. Add to this cost the cost of extensive out-of-pocket medical charges, insurance premiums, drugs, and even renovations to the invalid's home to afford him/her mobility there, and we get a glimpse of the frightening cost of trying to keep our loved ones close by.

Elder care, of course, is actually cheaper than the more specialized care required by younger invalids, and family members will likely bear elder care costs for a shorter period of time.

Nevertheless, even in the context I offer of my mom's lesser costs, we will absorb $4050 per month, $48,600 annually, in payments just to Hillcrest North--until the money's gone. It will be gone in months.

WRT families in this position due to the irresponsibility of someone else, and facing this financial and emotional responsibility to loved ones for their complete lifetimes and beyond, I fully support their demands that the responsibile party ante up. Punitive damages are in order, too, if medical providers' irresponsiblity is to be stopped.

Go, Edwards.

Les Jones's picture

Andy:

So you're saying Bill Frist is a creep who shouldn't be president? I agree.

Bubba:

Apparently the link between cerebral palsy and forceps deliveries or extended vaginal delieries is specious. It's not science, it's courtroom science.

So the next time you hear about the rising use of caesarians, remember that Edwards' lawsuit is one reason for that. Not that caesarians are always better (they cause increased hospital stays and increased secondary infections, among other things), but that they're less likely to result in a specious lawsuit.

"who was able to get compensation for a needed lifetime of care"

That's great, but are you saying the ob-gyn was actually responsible for that child's condition, or are you saying the ends (having money to care for a cerebral palsy child) justifies the means (using crap science and a sob story)?

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Andy Axel's picture

So you're saying Bill Frist

So you're saying Bill Frist is a creep who shouldn't be president? I agree.

No, Bill Frist is a creep who shouldn't practice medicine again. Bill Frist shouldn't diagnose brain-damaged women who he's never met on the Senate floor.

He shouldn't take on the mantle of moral authority and act as proxy for God in public office.

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Les Jones's picture

Tamara:

My sympathies to your mother and you. Caring for an invalid parent is extremely difficult.

"WRT families in this position due to the irresponsibility of someone else, and facing this financial and emotional responsibility to loved ones for their complete lifetimes and beyond, I fully support their demands that the responsibile party ante up. Punitive damages are in order, too, if medical providers' irresponsiblity is to be stopped."

The question I have is whether the ob-gyns were in fact responsible for causing the child's cerebral palsy. From the bit I've read there doesn't seem to be any good evidence for it.

www.lesjones.com

StaceyDiamond's picture

John Edwards/ Clay Aiken

Its ironic that Ann Coulter said what she did, because for years I've thought John Edwards and Clay Aiken look and talk alike. They are both cute but in a lounge singer, tv preacher sort of way. I like them both. Stacey

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