Tue
May 17 2011
10:38 am

Costco looking to build at Lovell Road and Kingston Pike, behind Walgreens. It has been a long time coming, but we're excited.

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F-Stop's picture

A retailer that pays their

A retailer that pays their employees a wage that's closer to living than not and gives the finger to Wall Street in the process. Plus a CEO who's likely loaded and unloaded trucks himself.

Pam Strickland's picture

I have a cousin who works for

I have a cousin who works for them in Louisville. They do treat their employees right. Novel concept, but a good one.

fischbobber's picture

Costco

I'm there.

Factchecker's picture

Has anyone heard there's

Has anyone heard there's supposed to be a Whole Foods going in at Kingston and Papermill? A real mixed bag, though, as that CEO is a total dick. I would therefore try to avoid the store, but it would be pretty convenient from I-40.

smalc's picture

See this rambling (aren't

See this rambling (aren't they all) knoxblab thread for the scoop.

Short version-inside information that a lease was signed, mostly conjecture on the location.

Mello's picture

I have not bought a bottle of wine in 8 years

I'm glad Costco will come to town with it's better than average jobs. That is great! What I can't seem to get around is that the Nashville Costco was a real let down after shopping in west coast Costco stores. I don't drink but out west we bought a hell of a lot of wine and liquor at Costco for gifts.

We did not see a great deal of difference in the various grocery products stocked at Costco's west coast stores but we did see that difference when shopping in Nashville. So much so that I let our membership lapse. Of course now that I have accepted the fact that I am going to get a side of grits rather than a side of green chile I will no doubt dump my Sam's card and support Costco.

Costco needs to start their marketing campaign for this new Knox county store by offering me a premium for my Sams card. Either a discount on the Costco membership or a few free months of their membership. Either one and I'll attend the shredding party.

smalc's picture

I have never been in a

I have never been in a Costco, so enlighten me. It's pretty much a Sam's that treats its employees better? You still go there to get a gallon of mayo, or 5 lbs of M&Ms?

I don't get it.

bizgrrl's picture

I'm one of those that works

I'm one of those that works real hard not to shop a Wal-Mart/Sam's Club. I don't care for how they treat their employees and they built their brand on selling Made in America, then dropped the campaign.

Here's a write-up on one person's comparison of the two.

Mello's picture

I've never bought a gallon of mayo or 900 rolls of paper product

It is simply another shopping option. Just like I said about Aldis coming to town. It ain't for everyone but new options are good. We are also getting a GFS store and that too is good. And Costco is known to pay better than average wages for the jobs it creates. I can support that!

I have bought gallons of baked beans and bean salad for fund raising events. Same goes with paper plates, plastic forks and cups for those kind of events. For us, a local Costco or Sams is and was one of the closest grocery stores. I pretty much still only buy certain things like big packs of baby spinach or greens, cat litter, razor blades, yeast and pot stickers. Things we really use a lot of and do come cheaper in quantity.

Maybe part of it is the adventure in shopping. Call it a hunt if you will. We sure aren't spending our money on movies or attraction entertainment these days. Sunrise International grocery on Kingston Pike is the best entertainment shopping in Knoxville.

Somebody's picture

Aside from the other issues

Aside from the other issues about Sam's/WalMart, the thing that drove me away is their calculated poor quality. They use their massive buying power to negotiate lower prices often at the cost of quality (and US jobs). I am quite convinced they have people who calculate price-point/customer-tolerance-for-poor-quality ratios, meaning they figure out that people will buy and replace over time ten $10 toasters rather than spend $50 up front for one that will never need replacing. There's some threshold where a customer will find replacing the toaster to be inconvenient and wasteful, and Sam's/WalMart aims to sell things just beyond that threshold. I'm sure they're not the only ones to do this, but their sheer size would suggest they're probably the best at it.

I wonder if Costco is a master at this as well.

R. Neal's picture

Walmart at one time had the

Walmart at one time had the most sophisticated retail information system in the world and probably still does.

They were the first company to have a terabyte+ database, and their inventory system could track every product on every shelf at every store and could predict to the day or even the hour when to reorder/restock just about every item, at least according to an NCR/Teradata vendor presentation at the time. And this was in the early 1990s.

Hard to imagine what they have now. I'm sure it incorporates those quality/price-point calculations and a lot more. But yeah, I still won't shop there.

Factchecker's picture

But yeah, I still won't shop

But yeah, I still won't shop there.

Me neither. The damage that company has done can never be reversed. I might lose a few cents, if that, every now and then by shopping at Target instead. Target is no sainted organization, but no company is in the same league as Sprawl-Mart.

Rachel's picture

As far as I'm concerned,

As far as I'm concerned, there's a sign at the top of Bearden Hill going west that says "here be dragons." I won't be visiting Costco unless I have some really pressing reason to buy something in bulk.

fischbobber's picture

Your absence

We'll miss ya.

Rachel's picture

Not intending to slam

Not intending to slam westknox, but living on the south side just makes me reluctant to drive out there unless I have to. Plus I think I have westknox overload after too many years of living there back in the 80s and 90s.

fischbobber's picture

South Knoxville

Do you mean Choto?

Pam Strickland's picture

I can't imagine shopping at

I can't imagine shopping at at Costco, but given a choice I would pick it over Sam's any day.

I shop at Target because it's what I can afford for a lot of household supplies and goods, but I don't buy their handbags. Those I get as hand-me-downs from family members or from secondhand stores or church rummage sales or such. There are a couple of stores I go to west of Bearden Hill but it is very specific and very seldom. And always connected to a sale.

Like Rachel, West Knoxville gives me the heebie-jeebies. It's the traffic and the pre-fab and everything being on top of everything else. I go there for some of the people in my life. That's good.

redmondkr's picture

Every time I drive in West

Every time I drive in West Knoxville, I feel as though I'm in somebody's way.

Factchecker's picture

That doesn't surprise me

That doesn't surprise me about Target-sold handbags. But unfortunately you can apply a similar argument against almost any store in America on practically any item, anymore. A really principled person would have to live like a hermit and/or be very choosy, and probably quite rich, to avoid those vendors entirely. It wouldn't be practical or fair compared to the masses who have no conscience. At least we're very choosy about durables, clothing, and the like for that type of problem.

We mostly buy staples like soaps, toiletries, Grape Nuts cereal, etc. from Target. If I were buying a handbag, I'd get one of those cool JulieApple jobs. Have you seen those!?

bizgrrl's picture

Oh, come on people. I go west

Oh, come on people. I go west of Bearden Hill all the time. It's not scary I promise.

fischbobber's picture

Out West

Some of us even grow our own tomatoes. It can be downright homey out here if you know where to go. Feel free to drop by for a beer anytime within reason.

R. Neal's picture

I go west of Bearden Hill all

I go west of Bearden Hill all the time.

I believe you meant East of I-140?

Anonymousmark's picture

The real reason

Those who have been to Costco before will go there again because they have many more name brand products than Sam's. By the way the people who I have met in West Knox are some of the best you will meet anywhere.

fischbobber's picture

Jungle Tim Kern

Clearly you weren't at Jungle's wake.

Min's picture

Huh. I didn't realize that Costco had such a good reputation.

"Those I get as hand-me-downs from family members or from secondhand stores or church rummage sales or such."

Yup. For accessories, I buy vintage and second-hand from thrift stores and Ebay. You can find some amazing stuff, particularly hats, which were made far better and of better quality materials when millinery was still a unionized trade.

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