Fri
Nov 1 2013
06:18 am
By: xmd
I don't remember getting the Duncan survey. How many others got it or not?
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It was included in his last
It was included in his last newsletter, apparently.
(link...)
The News Sentinel regurgitated this tripe uncritically with the exception of a buried mention that "While the results are not scientific, they do provide a snapshot of what many East Tennesseans are thinking."
(link...)
This survey is not just "not scientific," its self selection bias renders it completely invalid. Its inclusion in a newsletter that also prints "the answers" - Duncan's stated opinions on the same subjects in the survey, creates an enormous bias. The fact that Duncan sends out these newsletters regularly creates an even greater bias. Those of us who have seen them before and disagree with the fictions contained within have tossed it long before ever noticing a survey in the back. If it is any kind of snapshot, it is a snapshot primarily of people who already agree with Congressman Duncan.
It's not surprising that Duncan would publish such a survey. It should be an embarrassment to the News Sentinel to uncritically republish the results, however. They should know better.
agreed
(in reply to Somebody)
I suspect that the actual percent of his constituents that support the progressive positions are substantially higher that the 18 or so percent being reported owing to the fact that the President got 31% of the vote in his congressional district.
Pathetic
The "survey" is a perfect example of how a legislator deludes him/herself and uses biased, twisted non-scientific data to erroneously justify their personal stands as, somehow, the "will" of the people.
I have never bothered to answer Duncan's bogus questionnaires before, mostly because the questions are loaded and phrased to elicit certain responses that he wishes to receivet. For example, "do you support TOTAL legalization of marijuana?" (emphasis mine). Even rational people would be stymied by the word "total." Then, "Do you think the NSA should be allowed to monitor and KEEP the phone calls and internet data of all U.S. citizens?" is phrased to get an obvious "NO," the word "keep" being included to sway undecideds.
I did fill out the survey this time because I could no longer tolerate the idea that this sanctimonious "lifetime" congressman should continue to receive just what he wants to hear, just so he can wave a sheet of paper and say "See? I told you I was representing you and your beliefs." He doesn't represent mine or many of the people I know.
The wording doesn’t bother
(in reply to ArtWagner)
The wording doesn’t bother me, it's the one sided delivery of the question.
Lay it out for people so they can do the simple math. So if someone wants to continue to vote their morality, they can see what it costs them.
According to the WP, the state of Washington stands to bring in $2 billion by 2017. As a state, Tennessee spends approximately a billion on locking people up. Say a quarter are for pot.
So here’s my question: “Would you rather have at least a $2.25 billion dollar surplus for things like transportation, schools and first responders or would you rather maintain a position of locking up people for ingesting an herb?”
As for the use of “keep”, I have no problem with it because I personally think that’s the problem
Never again
I voted for him the last time he was up for re-election because of his consistent refusal to vote to fund the war in Iraq. That was the last time. Never again.
good for you!
(in reply to wlkx)
It is high time Duncan quits getting mileage out of his anti-war vote. That is OLD NEWS! On the issues of today, he is wrong, wrong, wrong!
Frankly, y'all give Duncan
Frankly, y'all give Duncan too much credit for his vote on Iraq. He didn't vote no because he thought it was a stupid war, or because we were attacking somebody who hadn't attacked us. He voted no because he's a straight up isolationist.
As for the newsletter surveys, I used to answer them, but then decided "why bother?" He's not interested in anything I have to say.
I haven't read the paper yet, but I saw this reported on television last night, and whichever station is was (probably WBIR since they are connected with the KNS now) was indeed remarkably uncritical of the methodology.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure most of Duncan's constituents hold the positions that got the most "votes." But it's impossible to know from that survey.
1. If anyone working for the
1. If anyone working for the Sentinel is perusing this, please feel free to pipe up and explain how this "report" made it onto your site. You do understand that making a proper statistical assessment of the (lack of) validity of Duncan's data wouldn't make you "liberal media," right? It would just make you "professional journalists." Right now it just looks like your Washington correspondent spent ten minutes re-working a Duncan press release so that he could make it out the door in time for happy hour.
2. Is anyone going to run a serious campaign against this buffoon in the next election? He should not be allowed to quietly retire and be hailed in the Sentinel as a 'longtime East Tennessee statesman stepping down after a distinguished career.' He needs to be turned out of office, so that the Sentinel is forced to run a headline like "Half Century Political Dynasty Ends in Defeat."
Duncan
I have called congressman turkey neck several times to object to the corrupt manner in which he conducts himself. So I don't get his crappy newsletter anymore. Apparently like most rwnj, he only wants an echo chamber. If only the a progressive would run against him. Why anybody would vote for this career politician is beyond me. The only thing he has ever done is make himself filthy rich and get every relative he has freeloading the system.
Duncan survey
Thiis is completely client related, I admit...but I was pleased and a little surprised that support for online tax fairness was a majority: 55%.
A majority of what? 55% of a
(in reply to Mike Cohen)
A majority of what?
55% of a statistically invalid sample has no meaning. How is it that you don't get that?
If your enthusiasm for this meaningless figure is for the benefit of a client, your client isn't getting much value for their PR budget.
Duncan survey
First off, if you want to insult me or my work then sign your name and say who you are. Otherwise you're just gutless.
Actually the reporter got it wrong, it was 55-45 the other way.
My point is this: it a survey that is mostly answered by very conservative people, people who are unlikely to favor any tax. If almost half of them realize that online merchants should be treated the same as brick and mortar stores then we have made some real progress.
And it is not a meaningless number to Congressman Duncan...and he has a vote on the bill.
And my client seems pretty darn pleased.
Don't be ridiculous. Duncan
(in reply to Mike Cohen)
Don't be ridiculous. Duncan doesn't believe these numbers either. If the numbers from one of his surveys support a position that he wants to take, then he will use them. If they don't, then he won't.
Even though I am aware of a surprising number of Duncan's constituents who reached out to him during the government shutdown to suggest that he vote to end it, he continues to maintain that pretty much all of his constituents told him that he was right to stick with the tea party position. Correlation is not causation. Duncan will vote however he feels like voting on the sales tax issue. This is what you get when you create "safe districts." The Congressman knows he doesn't have to be responsive to much of anything, because he knows he will easily be reelected no matter what he does. So don't let a set of bogus numbers get your hopes up.
+1 How much of his voting is
(in reply to Somebody)
+1
How much of his voting is to follow his core GOB constituency and how much just reflects his scary, do-nothing government philosophy? Not that it would make any real difference.
I had to start throwing those newsletters with his "surveys" straight into the recycle bin many years ago. They'd make my head explode. Each question would start with a straw-man statement so that the answer was steered. Textbook examples of worthless, unscientific data.
Regulation
In truth this is a state's rights issue. It lets states decide if they want to levy the sales tax on all sales.
For a sales tax dependent state like Tennessee it's a big issue. Look at the trends of where/how people shop. In twenty years, we're in real trouble.
And my client seems pretty
And my client seems pretty darn pleased.
Conflict of interest. Republicans aren't about states rights when their politics are favored by a heavy hand from the feds or the SCOTUS.
My client
My client is made up of both Democrats and Republicans. They are brick and mortar retailers.
Not that it means anything,
(in reply to Mike Cohen)
Not that it means anything, but I'm also supportive of the local, brick-and-mortar folks on this one. A simplified sales tax collection structure for online retailers takes the government out of the un-leveling of the playing field.
Duncan has greater concern about his props with the no-new-tax pledge he signed than he does for his constituents. The survey means nothing.