Sun
Jul 5 2015
03:35 am
Is there a downtown teen curfew in Knoxville? I have searched a bit on web but not clear on it.
Just looking around it looks like other cities have curfews like under 18 cannot be in the central downtown area past 10 pm without their parents.
The last few weeks it looks like there is an evolving issue downtown with large groups of under 18 teens. Running across streets in front of vehicles, it looked like there may have been a fight in Market Square tonight but I couldn't tell because of the large number of kids gathered around it.
No police around. Which surprised me a bit.
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These laws are on the books
These laws are on the books in a number of municipalities. I have serious constitutional issues with them, as did the Supreme Court.
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Yeah, while I appreciate the need to address the problems jbr cites, I don't favor teen curfews as the device to address them either, Steve.
At the time my two entered high school, their curfews were 10 pm weeknights and 11 pm weekends. During their senior years, we loosened up and allowed 11 pm weeknights and 12 pm weekends.
The reason we loosened up in their senior years is that we had begun taking college campus tours and had learned that once on campus (as a 17 year-old and an 18 year-old respectively), they would enjoy a 2 am curfew, if living in a dorm. They'd have no curfew if living off-campus, of course. We didn't want them to go hog wild once they landed on campus (to the detriment of their grades), so we decided to afford them this slightly more liberal "right," only to ensure they'd be aware of its corresponding "responsibility" in terms of their unchanged obligations to school and work.
In short, I think we'd be mistaken to hold out that 2 am curfew like forbidden fruit available to them only after high school. Kids need some kind of transition in their curfew in the months and years before they enjoy such broader personal freedoms?
And really, isn't the task simply to better ensure that when teens are out without parental supervision, they don't engage in public fights or create auto accidents at any hour?
I don't know squat about
I don't know squat about juvenile law but there is either a state law or county ordinance for curfews and I think under 16 it is 11 pm and over 16 it is 12 am (obv 18 and up, adult/no curfew).
And I have absolutely no problem with that. Juveniles don't have the same rights as adults and anybody who has ever lived with one should understand why. Like my old man (a cop) used to say, Nothing good happens after midnight. I let my kid stay out past midnight on the Fourth b/c he was out bowling with friends after the fireworks. It was a special occasion, and sometimes we flout the public rules.
I know some parents are more permissive, but my view is there is no reason any 16 y/o needs to be out that late in most circumstances. If they want to stay out late, they'll have to learn to sneak around like my generation did, behind our parents' backs. It helps build a healthy sense of the right occasion for defying authority, it exercises one's faculties for strategy, and encourages versatility of thinking. Just don't get caught.
Amen, sister
(in reply to Hildegard)
My kid decided to sneak out for, wait for it, taco bell with his buddies when he was 15. Sevierville cops brought him home. I thought he would crap his pants. I still owe those cops that bribe.
Tenn. Code Ann. §39-17-1702
Tenn. Code Ann. §39-17-1702 is the state statute.
Can't link directly, but you can run it down on Lexis-Nexis.
~m.
Kids these days...
-allegedly attributed to Socrates by Plato
I know, right? They've always
(in reply to Somebody)
I know, right? They've always been little assholes.
Except for when I was a kid.
(in reply to Hildegard)
Except for when I was a kid. We were great. We respected our elders and gladly did everything they told us to do. Our music was better, too. So was that one cast of SNL. And we survived all the childhood hazards that the current generation are too coddled, weak and sensitive to handle. We were better students, too, and every one of us learned and understood history and civics, so that all of us became the best equipped generation of citizens to enter the adult world, making it the perfect utopia it is now. Why can't the kids these days appreciate that?
Or, as the French say...
(in reply to Somebody)
Le plus ca change, le plus c'est la meme chose.
Curfews
It is more common than I thought.
from WYFF in Greeneville, SC …
Police remind teens of Downtown Greenville curfew
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