Mon
Dec 5 2016
03:23 pm

City of Knoxville press release...

NEW PARKING METER SENSORS ENFORCE TIME LIMITS

Over the next few weeks, parking patrons will notice a few changes with the City’s new parking meters recently installed downtown and in surrounding areas. The City will be activating new features that will continue to promote steady turnover for short-term parking spaces which in turn creates easier access to on-street parking and area businesses.

More than 900 new meters have been installed since August, replacing many unreliable older meters and providing convenience with credit card capability. Each meter was equipped with a vehicle detection sensor to monitor the adjacent parking space, which is a key element in providing real-time data to the City’s parking systems team. This valuable feature is now being fully activated.

The sensors are set to the time limits established for each parking space – generally two hours in heavily trafficked areas. That means they will not accept payment for more than the designated time.

When a vehicle enters a parking meter space, it triggers the sensor, which then gives the patron a small grace period allowing time for parking, unloading and paying the meter. The meter automatically begins counting down the maximum time limit for that meter after the grace period ends. The meter will not accept payment for longer than the designated time limit.

After the meter has expired, the occupant will also have a small grace period to vacate the space before a violation is reported. The meter will not reset until it senses that the vehicle has left the space. The purpose of this restriction is to ensure steady turnover in short-term parking spaces and encourage long-term parkers to utilize City garages and lots.

Here are two examples of how this works:

• A vehicle parks at 8 p.m. at a two-hour time limit meter and it states “Free Parking” on the meter screen, because the space is free after 6 p.m. The resident or visitor takes the risk and parks there all night. The next morning at 8 a.m., when payment is required, the parker tries to pay for time on the meter. However, their credit card is not accepted and coins do not register time either. Why? Because the vehicle sensor detected that the two-hour time limit expired at 10 p.m. and the vehicle never moved. Therefore, payment is not accepted the next morning until the space has been vacated. 

• A vehicle parks at 10 a.m. at a two-hour time limit meter. At 10:05 a.m., the two-hour time limit begins but the parker decides to not pay yet. At 11:05 a.m., the person notices a parking enforcement officer approaching and decides to go ahead and pay. The occupant wants to pay for two hours, but the meter will only allow one hour maximum payment.  Why? Because the vehicle sensor began counting the two-hour time limit at 10:05 a.m. The occupant can only pay up to 12:05 p.m.

When a vehicle departs a parking space, the sensor indicates the space is now vacant and the meter resets. This will allow the next person parking to get a full two hours on the meter.

For more information about parking in Knoxville, visit knoxvilletn.gov/parking.

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jbr's picture

What is the garage with the

What is the garage with the big historical photos on the side facing Union Ave?

michael kaplan's picture

ask the residents of the

ask the residents of the Daylight Building who have to stare at it. that wall could have been a prototypical 'green wall' with vertical planting.

jbr's picture

What I mean is, what is it

What I mean is, what is it called?

Bill Lyons's picture

It is the Walnut Street Garage

It is the Walnut Street Garage

jbr's picture

Walnut Street garage

Should it be on this page ?

Downtown parking

I have gone in the Locust Street entrance and exit, but not Walnut street. Does the sign say "Walnut Street" garage on the Locust Street entrance?

When I try to explain to someone where to park downtown I cannot ever think of the name of it.

I like the murals myself. I have walked over to them with folks that haven't seen them. I would like to see more of that sort of subtle extra "personality" downtown. I would also like to see more of the alleys downtown as art displays. But I guess that may cause problems with the business use of them.

michael kaplan's picture

i like this one better.

it's in color.

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bizgrrl's picture

Is that real?

Is that real?

jmcnair's picture

Walnut Street Garage

Walnut Street Garage according to http://www.downtownknoxville.org/parking/?t[]=37

Somebody's picture

Right.

If it had been a "green wall," you'd have complained that it wasn't a mural.

Bill Lyons's picture

Garage banners are bad? Seriously!

I have to admit that this is the first time I have heard these referenced in the pejorative. And FWIW the City's providing a climbing wall was not a possibility.

When the units were being sold I was told that the new owners were thrilled to have that view. Likewise the folks at JC Holdway are quite happy with the transformation. Also I have heard from many in the Pembroke that they are extremely pleased with the historic photos. Almost every day people stop at the fence and snap pictures. If someone other than Mr.Kaplan is unhappy I would love to know.

Getting these picture on the wall flowed from a group effort involving the City staff, the garage owner, the owner of the Daylight Building, Kim Trent, Jack Neely, Alan Sims, and representatives from Visit Knoxville, The East Tennessee History Center, the CBID, and others.

Oh well, to each his or her own opinion, I suppose. Thanks.

PM Parris's picture

Parking meter "zones"?

Bill,

Just curious, is there a place that shows the "zones" for (street) parking meter turnover times and rates? That is for example, on Gay Street each meter has no more than 2 hours and costs X dollars per hour, while on South Central the turnover time is (say) 6 hours and cost is Y dollars per hour. I can't find this info online, but it may be there. Lots of info about garages is available, less about meters (or at least where I have looked). I presume the operating hours for metered parking downtown are consistent across all meters. The press release is very helpful regarding how the new approach works. Thank you....

Bill Lyons's picture

Meters vary in turnover time and rate

PM, You are correct that the meters vary in the turnover time and in the cost depending on location. I will check on getting this information readily available. Thanks, Bill

PM Parris's picture

Thanks

Thank you. The press release has basic info about times/rates and the ParkDowntownKnoxville.com page shows a lot about garages, but not anything about meters. Seems like it would be useful to add the street parking info to that location, although I know part of the goal is to get folks to use garages, which is a great plan.

michael kaplan's picture

I wasn't talking about a

I wasn't talking about a 'climbing' wall, but rather a wall covered in ivy, non-kudzu vine, or even a vertical vegetable garden. Were any architects or landscape architects consulted about the project? Surely it would be feasible to cleverly introduce some 'urban wilderness' into downtown.

The scientists from Oxford University - where ivy adds colour and character to many of the college buildings - found that rather than damaging walls, the plant positively protects them by acting as a 'thermal shield.’ A three-year study concluded that ivy's web of dark green leaves insulates the brickwork from the extremes of temperature and moisture that often cause cracks. It can also protect against pollution damage.

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Somebody's picture

So...

So help us visualize this a little better. Would you see using bucket trucks to pluck the green beans from 40 feet up this vertical vegetable garden, or would it be more interesting to have people rappel down from the top? I'm guessing rappelling would be the thing, because the bucket trucks would have idling diesel engines going for days on end, or really all summer if you had a variety of crops ripening throughout the growing season.

michael kaplan's picture

Maybe this will help you

Maybe this will help you visualize this a little better ..

Indiana Bell, 1978, Columbus IN (Caudill Rowlett Scott; Paul Kennon, principal architect)

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Somebody's picture

Nobody but you wants this.

Nobody but you wants this. Give it up.

Bill Lyons's picture

Maybe shoulda woulda coulda let ivy grow on the garage.

Were any architects or landscape architects consulted about the project? Surely it would be feasible to cleverly introduce some 'urban wilderness' into downtown.

Sorry, just not clever enough I guess. If we had wanted urban wilderness perhaps poison ivy would have been the ticket. Gosh, I feel a bit of responsibility here so I will like to beg for folks' indulgence to discuss a bit. The garage is privately owned. The project, such as it was, had to be acceptable both the the garage owner and the adjoining property owner. We had a very small amount of money to work with. This was an effort based on persuasion and cooperation and good will of a lot of parties.

The historic photos were my idea. The idea of drawing in the group stemmed from that original thought. One of the main reasons we structured the process as we did was to make it possible to take place in a reasonable time with broad public acceptance. Obviously the ivy or vegetable garden you have come up with would protrude onto other properties, be quite costly, have operating expenses, liability concerns. But simply put, it was not we proposed to do. And FWIW we did have architects involved as part of our group. Like so many things that actually get done, this efforts involved framing this in terms of the art of the possible, and the involvement of multiple stakeholders.

The premise of your original post was that people who lived there were not happy with the pictures. I don't think there is a bit of evidence to support that. The corollary is that these phantom unhappy people would have preferred a hanging garden on the side, an arrangement that I have not even heard of in this country and that would not be feasible in any case.

I do recall some well meaning discussion of a climbing wall in Chattanooga. We even explored that a bit but found that it was a very different setting and ownership structure and not possible.

I don't know how much googling you had to do to arrive at your alternative. The article you draw on is from the UK Daily Mail. It references letting ivy grow on university buildings rather than knocking it off. It is not about building or garage design. The argument is that this helps with heating and cooling and does not do any damage to the structure. The article does not deal with a situation remotely like that which we had here.

Look, let a thousand flowers bloom in the garden of ideas. I thought our solution to a tough problem was pretty creative. A whole lot of people got together to make a bit of lemonade from some lemons left over from the rules of property lines and building codes.

The kind of gratuitously manufactured negativity inherent at the root of this discussion is unfortunately increasingly typical of much of our political engagement at all levels of government. I have to admit that I am flummoxed by this sort of approach. I don't understand the motivation or the desired effect.

Yes, we did "Thing A" rather than either nothing or some hypothetical "Thing B" or possibly "Thing C" such as a gigantic Drive-In movie or a vertical pizza oven.

Thanks for noticing the pictures and have a nice day.

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danandrews's picture

Hey remember when I reported on this back on April 19th 2016

Hey, remember when I posted this information on Twitter and broke the story back in April? Real journalists break stories. Get it right the first time, and just kick ass. Everyone else waits for the press release and acts like it is a big story.

@knoxcounty
April 19 ·
Twitter
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"Wow breaking @CityKnoxvilleTN to install smart meters that will alert officers as soon as meter expires"

R. Neal's picture

The news in the press release

The news in the press release is that they are now going to start enforcing the time limits.

j.f.m.'s picture

More precisely, the news is

More precisely, the news is that the sensors in the meters are being turned on. The time limits are technically already enforced, but as long as people have been able to feed the meters, there wasn't an easy way to know if a car had been in a given space longer than the limit. (Short of chalking tires, which they did on Gay Street before the meters went in.)

We're working on getting an updated meter map showing the different time limits, hours and rates. Almost all of the meters downtown are two-hour maximum or less ($1.50 an hour), except for Central south of Marble Alley and the north end of the Gay Street Viaduct and Depot Ave., which are currently 10-hour maximums at 30 cents an hour.

earlnemo's picture

Limits apply to free parking?

After such times as free parking is allowed, are the time limits still enforced? There flashing message seems to indicate this is so: "free parking--2 hour limit"

earlnemo's picture

deja vu?

I distinctly remember posting a question here last night (but alas I also remember 4 IPAs)

Q: Do the time limits still apply after such time as parking is free? Recently parked at 10pm, meter says "free parking--2 hour limit".

R. Neal's picture

I thought this might generate

I thought this might generate some discussion because it has two main ingredients ("downtown" and "parking") but I never anticipated such an odd tangent.

Anyway, I think the murals look better than ivy, poison or otherwise.

bizgrrl's picture

Yeah, I like the pictures.

Yeah, I like the pictures. Thanks to Bill for posting them. I haven't seen them. I'm not fond of ivy, poison or otherwise.

jbr's picture

Chattanooga's climbing wall

Chattanooga's climbing wall is part of a gym housed in the garage structure. It has several additional climbing walls inside. The base is above street level and on a main street which enhances the visual.

Maybe something along those lines will show up on the south side of the river.

As I said, I like the murals, and have walked folks unfamiliar with them over to view them. Everyone I have spoken to about them seem to like them.

Up Goose Creek's picture

Murals, Virginia Creeper, etc.

I have been allowing Virginia Creeper to grow up the walls of a brick rental building. Unlike ivy, it attaches by natural suction cups and does not hurt the mortar. For the longest time it would not cover the west wall where it was needed most. A few years ago I planted a pear tree that is providing some relief from the noonday sun and the creeper is beginning to spread on that wall.

As for murals: I enjoyed a walk at Suttree landing park the other evening and noticed the tank farm was crying out for murals. Would the Marathon company be receptive to this?

michael kaplan's picture

here's another - a parking garage

A UK power company has created the largest living wall in Europe - the massive vertical garden wraps the external walls of the National Grid headquarters creating more than 11,000 sq metres of green space. That's a lot of happy birds and bees.

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Knoxgal's picture

I agree that

I agree that living wall is pretty cool, but I also like the murals. I imagine the living wall would require a lot of maintenance.

michael kaplan's picture

It would of course require

It would of course require some maintenance, as do most living (and some non-living) things. But downtown is replete with beautiful landscaping - not to mention the greenways and urban parks - all of which require maintenance. A 'living wall' would be an extension of the city's passion for green space. Maybe it could be tried on a smaller scale. Perhaps UT's landscape students could provide some design input ...

michael kaplan's picture

Now I'm hearing complaints

Now I'm hearing complaints about having to spend $0.50 (or $0.75 credit) to drop off or pick up a book at the library. Prior to the installation of the meters, there used to be 3 or 4 free 15-minute spots intended for those using the library.

michael kaplan's picture

I'm wondering how the new

I'm wondering how the new meters communicate with those who ticket cars. Cell-phone technology, internet wifi, or cable?

Up Goose Creek's picture

drop offs

There is still 15 minute free parking around the corner next to the Hilton patio.

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