Thu
Apr 30 2015
07:43 pm
By: Tamara Shepherd
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Discussing:
- Ex-CDC Directors are worried and say it well (4 replies)
- Jobs numbers worst since 2020 pandemic (1 reply)
- Tennessee training MAGAs of tomorrow (4 replies)
- Knoxville, "the underrated Tennessee destination" (1 reply)
- Country protectors assigned park maintenance tasks (1 reply)
- City of Knoxville election day, Aug. 26, 2025 (1 reply)
- Proposals sought for Fall 2025 Knoxville SOUP dinner (1 reply)
- Is the Knoxville Civic Auditorium and Coliseum ugly? (1 reply)
- President says: no mail-in voting and no voting machines (2 replies)
- Will the sandwich thrower be pardoned? (3 replies)
- Medicare Part D premiums are likely to go up next year (1 reply)
- The President of the United States: there is a crime emergency in D.C. (1 reply)
TN Progressive
- WATCH THIS SPACE. (Left Wing Cracker)
- Report on Blount County, TN, No Kings event (BlountViews)
- America As It Is Right Now (RoaneViews)
- A friend sent this: From Captain McElwee's Tall Tales of Roane County (RoaneViews)
- The Meidas Touch (RoaneViews)
- Massive Security Breach Analysis (RoaneViews)
- (Whitescreek Journal)
- Lee's Fried Chicken in Alcoa closed (BlountViews)
- Alcoa, Hall Rd. Corridor Study meeting, July 30, 2024 (BlountViews)
- My choices in the August election (Left Wing Cracker)
- July 4, 2024 - aka The Twilight Zone (Joe Powell)
- Chef steals food to serve at restaurant? (BlountViews)
TN Politics
- Lutheran clergy seek to temporarily block new law making it a crime to ‘harbor’ immigrants (TN Lookout)
- In D.C., a moped on the ground, an SUV full of US marshals and a mystery (TN Lookout)
- 2 students hospitalized after shooting at Evergreen High School; suspected shooter dead (TN Lookout)
- US Senate votes down measure to force release of Epstein files (TN Lookout)
- Charlie Kirk killed at Utah Valley University, search for shooter continues (TN Lookout)
- Judge denies new trial for former Tennessee House Speaker Casada, ex-aide Cothren (TN Lookout)
Knox TN Today
- Gulf Fritillary: Don’t pass them by (Knox TN Today)
- The Other Side (Knox TN Today)
- Busy week for Knox County land sales (Knox TN Today)
- Kelsie Conley + Teresa Duncan + Katie Johnson + KOC ++ (Knox TN Today)
- Feral Kitty workshop at PSCC September 16 (Knox TN Today)
- Weekend Scene offers Puzzle Competition to Movie in a Cave (Knox TN Today)
- HEADLINES from world to local: Never Forget 9/11/01 (Knox TN Today)
- ‘My Botanical Life with Hemlocks,’ a Zoom program with Peter Del Tredici (Knox TN Today)
- Sobieski to speak at Farragut Museum (Knox TN Today)
- Wallace Real Estate joins United Way’s Week of Caring as Silver Sponsor (Knox TN Today)
- 3rd annual Walk 2 Remember & Car Show benefits Our PLACE Adult Day Center (Knox TN Today)
- Jane Austen comes to life at Clarence Brown Theatre (Knox TN Today)
Local TV News
- City says structural repairs to Gay Street Bridge 'mostly completed' (WATE)
- 'Come together' UT ROTC held 9/11 memorial stair climb (WATE)
- Fire extinguished at JTV building in Knoxville (WATE)
- Player of the Week: Carter's Brody Sparks (WATE)
- 'Run Dollywood' race weekend coming in 2026 (WATE)
- Sister shocked by brother's death after altercation at Sevier County Jail (WATE)
News Sentinel
State News
- Report: Tennesseans may not be sharing in state’s success - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Clarence Edward Smith Obituary - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Have the Vols caught up to the Bulldogs physically? - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Check out the Chattanooga area’s top prep performances of the week - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
Wire Reports
- MSNBC fires analyst Matthew Dowd over Charlie Kirk shooting remarks - The Guardian (US News)
- Dow jumps 500 points to record as August inflation increase likely won't derail Fed rate cut: Live updates - CNBC (Business)
- High-powered rifle recovered amid manhunt for Charlie Kirk's killer, FBI says - ABC News (US News)
- Stock Market Today: Dow Jumps Despite Inflation Data; Blackstone Breaks Out (Live Coverage) - Investor's Business Daily (Business)
- ECB Holds Rates Steady, Just as Fed Is Poised to Cut - The Wall Street Journal (Business)
- U.K. Ambassador to U.S., Peter Mandelson, Fired Over Epstein Links - The New York Times (US News)
- US Initial Jobless Claims Jump to Highest in Almost Four Years - Bloomberg.com (Business)
- Inside Wealth: Family offices double down on stocks and dial back on private equity - CNBC (Business)
- Hundreds of South Koreans arrested in a U.S. immigration raid are being sent home - NPR (US News)
- Homeownership Costs Have Jumped 26% Over 5 Years as Hidden Expenses Rise - Realtor.com (Business)
- Scoop: Biden world explodes at Kamala Harris' new book - Axios (US News)
- Musk loses crown as the world’s richest person to Larry Ellison and then snatches it back - AP News (Business)
- Suspect in US school shooting dies of self-inflicted wounds: Police - Al Jazeera (US News)
- Labor Department watchdog launches probe into the Bureau of Labor Statistics - CBS News (Business)
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Questions, answers?
Via Sen. Sanders Twitter
being an Independent,
does he automatically get a podium on the debate stage?
he's running as a democrat,
(in reply to Average Guy)
he's running as a democrat, not an independent
Jacobin's take
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Cool.
I'll be voting for him in the primary.
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(in reply to Min)
Same here, Min.
lol
Wow. You guys are really rolling out the youth this time. Cankles vs. Grouchy Grandpa. Nice.
It's alright.......
(in reply to TurdBurglar)
I'm looking forward to the Republican debate where they all gather together in the middle of the stage and sing "If I only had a brain," and then proceed to the debate where all the world's problems are blamed on "those damn muslims." Their collective solution? Stand up to'em. There is nothing quite as revealing as an insight into the perceptions of ignorant men.
They're young at heart,
(in reply to TurdBurglar)
Certainly not the antiquated old curmudgeon-thinkers(?) you have.
I'm so happy Bernie is running as a Democrat! He gets my vote in the primary, too. Yay!
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In his favor, Bernie has not avoided the press so far.
Prediction
Clinton's negatives get so high, either she bails or there is a draft Warren campaign.
Either way, Warren leads the ticket.
Republicans, who'd love to pigeon hole her as a socialist, won't be able because Bernie will be there to show them what one really is.
Warren becomes the first woman president after the GOP out crazies itself in the primaries.
Not happening. Clinton gets
(in reply to Average Guy)
Not happening. Clinton gets the nomination, barring something like a family health crisis.
I also think the Rs need to be careful. They're rolling out the guns against Clinton awfully early. People may get so tired of it by Election Day that they've long since stopped listening.
Glad Sanders is in; his presence means that important issues are gonna get discussed.
I agree
(in reply to Rachel)
Clinton will get the nomination, but it's a very good thing to have Bernie in there for the issues and as a Democrat so he doesn't Ralph Nader the vote in the end.
Having Carly Fiorina now in the ring will only increase the hateful attacks against Hillary so there's no slowing down, she (Carly) is such a nasty 'mean girl' that it will only bring more people to the Clinton camp.
The Republicans like their mean and nasty women to be young and pretty and Carly is neither, so it will backfire and only make Hillary more appealing, IMO.
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(in reply to Dahlia)
However, it doesn't seem likely that we will be able to insert Bernie into some competition with Hillary every six months or so for the next eight years "for the issues," if that means "to coax Hillary into behaving like a Democrat?"
My own strategy is pretty straightforward, really. I just plan to vote for the candidate I'd like to see win, that candidate being Bernie Sanders.
I'm not a huge Hillary fan
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
But I'm being practical. I do think she'll get the nomination in the end, although, Bernie will give her a good run, and as I said before, I'll be voting for him as well. The issues Bernie brings are not necessarily to make Hillary "behave like a better Democrat", but to expose the Republican's views. Without Bernie, they won't be raised or they'll only be skimmed over because we certainly cannot rely on the Main Street media to do it.
Stream...
(in reply to Dahlia)
not 'street'. I don't know why I post things in the morning.
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(in reply to Dahlia)
Without Bernie, they wouldn't be raised because we wouldn't have a candidate willing to raise them.
If Hillary gets the nomination, whence the impetus to have them raised after the election?
Why would we consider a candidate unwilling to raise the issues? Well, why would some of us consider that?
Let's say what we mean and mean what we say. For a change.
Tamara, I don't know
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
How to say it any clearer, I will be voting for Bernie, because I want him, but realistically, Hillary will probably get the nomination and then I will vote for her because she's better than any Republican running and most importantly of all, she could very well be choosing the next Supreme Court Justice.
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(in reply to Dahlia)
I understood, Dahlia, and I didn't mean to seem to single you out. You're saying essentially what several people here are saying.
I'd just like to see Dems do everything possible to change this "realistic" outcome in the primary. I don't know how anything will change until we can change the expectations of rank and file Dems.
We've got a local chapter of Democratic Socialists, Bernie's party, whose meeting I'm attending tomorrow night. Dunno a thing about it, but it's at 5:30 p.m. Monday at the Bearden branch library. Gotta do something.
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Top campaign contributors over their respective careers, Hillary Clinton vs. Bernie Sanders, here.
I mean, seriously.
Nice source
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Maybe everyone else that labors for their living is willing to overlook virtually every issue that would make a vote for Sanders make sense, but I won't. I'll vote Sanders and if Hillary wins, will likely vote for her, provided she takes the hint from the direction this election is going and comes out supporting a restoration of pension benefits that Obama has allowed to be stolen.
And FWIW, Duncan, Haslam, Corker, Alexander, and all the rest of you bastards that put this on the omnibus bill. FUCK YOU! We've worked for our whole lives for those pensions, they aren't a gift, they're a benefit that was earned, then stolen. But that's O.K. because I'm a positive kind of guy. But, Haslam, I'll be dogging you every night as well as the rest of you sleazy cohorts, for being nothing more than common thieves. That's what you are. You steal from those that produce wealth to line your pockets of leisure. We have no choice but to fight. If you buy the media, the fight will go to the streets.
Pensions
The Teamsters Central States Pension Funds is cutting the pensions of present and future retirees throughout the south. Western States, having the same contributory level is fully funded. Go figure. We will get poorer and poorer in the south and have more time to research. Even after you close the libraries like you evil bastards will try, we will move under the cover of night and spread the truth. Don't think you will take people like me down without a fight.
Even after you close the
(in reply to fischbobber)
Recalls Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.
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This reminds me of the Phil Bredesen for Governor argument. That worked out well. No state income tax (in spite of the fact that his Republican predecessor favored one), 300K booted from Tenncare (over two successive cuts), and workers' comp gutted--all in his first term.
Bredesen was still at it at the end of his second term. By 2010, he was opposing the ACA in favor of a federal voucher system.
And who can forget--that very same year--Bredesen's accepting Bill Gates' offer to underwrite the cost of our "successful" Race to the Top grant app. Or his calling that clandestine "extraordinary session" in which he "successfully" persuaded legislators to approve broad ed reform measures prerequisite to submitting the federal grant app, which app he wouldn't even allow legislators to read.
If we want to understand how a Republican supermajority came to power in Tennessee, the 2002 governor's race is a pretty good starting point for our research. Personally, I voted for somebody named Sanders in that one, too. He came in third because you didn't.
(Edit: To clarify, Dahlia, that "you" was meant as a plural. Of course, I have no idea who you personally voted for in the 2002 governor's race.)
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And I'm sorry, but it is flippin' painful to watch the gay community now lick this woman's Gucci footwear.
Bernie Sanders did not check to see which way the wind was blowin' in 1996 when he joined 67 House Dems to vote against the fed's Defense of Marriage Act. You know, the one Bill Clinton signed? Pretty much concurrent with his milquetoast "Don't ask, don't tell" tack?
All the while, Sanders' Vermont was the first state to introduce civil unions in 2000, and the first state where the Legislature passed a law legalizing same-sex marriage (without being forced to do so by a court) in 2009.
In her last presidential bid, Hillary Clinton was still saying (in 2007) that she did not support same-sex marriage.
She came out in support only in 2013, concurrent with the SCOTUS decision in U.S. v. Windsor, striking down DOMA.
Attention deficit disorder? Selective hearing? WTF???
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BTW, it was my 23 year-old daughter who posted that Major Contributors comparison, Clinton vs. Sanders, to my FB timeline last night--detailing Clinton's Goldman-Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Lehman Brothers and Credit Suisse support.
She may have voted in just one Presidential election in her life thus far, but she recognizes the 1% when she sees it and she's good to go.
Thinking of dragging her to the next Sixth District Dems meeting to teach the oldsters what for...
I'm voting for Sanders in the
I'm voting for Sanders in the primary, but it would take a Ted Cruz R nomination to get me to vote for HRC in the general. (Note: Voting for any Democratic presidential nominee is an exercise in futility in Tennessee.) There is nothing more depressing in this election cycle than the fact that anybody is still excited about the Clintons.
Hilde - I guess since you're
(in reply to Hildegard)
Hilde - I guess since you're in Tennessee it won't matter about the general, but if you were in a swing state I would say two words to you, and I bet you can guess what they are: Supreme Court.
The next President will be making some appointments. I'll take HRC appointments over those of ANY of the Rs running. Any day. Any way. Any how.
You know I realize that,
(in reply to Rachel)
You know I realize that, Rachel. And if I were in a swing state, I'd vote for her.
Taking advantage of your post
(in reply to Hildegard)
Taking advantage of your post to make a point to others.
I know you realize that and
(in reply to Hildegard)
I know you realize that and far be it from me to endeavor to dictate your actions. However, I would observe that the wonderful thing about the Internet is also potentially quite damaging. I.E. you might make a witty and well-structured argument for avoiding Hillary like the plague that applies to others in this state. But those who have Internet access to your pointed display of intelligence are global. Some might even be less well-intentioned and might quote your argument, in part or in whole, in an attempt to influence the votes of others whose electoral balloting is not a foregone conclusion.
I know of no reich-winger likely to run that I would prefer to Hillary. The pragmatic in me would much rather explore other Democratic options whilst keeping in my back pocket as a hedge against another wilfully ignorant and enthusiastically evil (mis)administration from the GOP. But the pragmatic also says that giving likely opponents ammunition is a short-sighted plan.
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(in reply to cafkia)
Missed you tonight, Cafkia. IIRC, you and I both voted for a Sanders some 13 years ago, in the 2002 governor's race? At least you said you were gonna?
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KNS ran a funny-sad political cartoon today (this one in the Business section) suggesting the SCOTUS needs to take up the issue of "same-checks marriage," as in the one between Repubs and Dems identically financed by Corporate America. Yup.
swing state
Well, Tennessee was a swing state of sorts in Bush vs. Gore. The definitive swing state in fact.
So Martin O'Malley isn't left enough for your sensitivities? You'd rather have the limousine socialist, the anti-corp socialist, or a socialist who can't decide how socialist he is on any given day?
I think this explains why in the next election cycle there will not be a single Dem on County Commission. You're doing the protest vote all wrong.
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CNN (on Friday, May 1):
That was from 35,000 donors, so his average contribution was under $50. And he signed up 100.000 volunteers by Friday.
BTW, tonight's meeting of Knoxville's Democratic Socialists was a pleasure. Saw a few local Democrats I know. And you know.
Hate to burst y'alls' bubble,
Hate to burst y'alls' bubble, but it seems to me these primaries are preordained by the DNC, big donors, power brokers and the national media.
Consider:
2008 Democratic presidential primary, Tennessee:
Clinton: 336,245
Obama: 252,874
How the Tennessee delegates actually voted at the convention:
(Click for bigger)
I sensed there was a lot of backroom cajoling and coordination until Hillary eventually called for a suspension of the rules and nomination of Obama by acclamation.
So yes, having a primary allows for public debate of the issues and whatnot (assuming there are credible candidates and that they will agree to debate) and that's a good thing, but it appears that in reality the primaries are mostly for show.
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So let's court us some delegates.
Just have to throw this out there...
Carly Fiorina, ex-CEO of Hewlett Packard was remiss in registering a certain domain, haha! Major applause for the person who did this.
(link...)
Yes, that is especially lame
(in reply to Dahlia)
Yes, that is especially lame for a former tech CEO.
On tonight 8:15 on Chris Hayes' MSNBC show
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Darn. I missed it, Mike (but thanks).
Just came across this story: Sanders hires Obama veterans to lead 2016 digital operations.
Excerpt:
Also, an update on fundraising through first four days says $3 million from 75,000 voters, so average donation still running under $50--but lots of 'em.
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More from the Los Angeles Times: Bernie Sanders' 'socialism' may have mainstream appeal, including an itemized list of some of Bernie's "wild ideas" (that aren't really wild at all).
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Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone: Give 'Em Hell, Bernie.
Kira Lerner for ThinkProgress: 6 Ways Bernie Sanders Will Challenge Hillary Clinton.
Bernie discussing the budget 5/11/15 video link
Jacob Cannon via Vimeo presents
Discussion on the Budget with Sen. Bernie Sanders
The Senate Votes That Divided Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders
Derek Willis in the NYT 5/27/15
The Senate Votes That Divided Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders