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Does it really take over $7 million, 4 years and 7 months to house 57 homeless people in Knoxville?
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This project will never happen and Minvilla will be empty for years to come. The dollars (public or private) will never keep up with the rising cost of construction / restoration. It is a money pit with no bottom. Why do you think every experienced developer in this community ran from this project for the last 10 years. Meanwhile, the homeless, who Mr. Finley is so proud to serve from his suite in the CC building, will be cold and wet. Let us hope that someone in the CC building will understand there are much better and proven options.
This was an unexpected read for me as I tend to disagree with about 99% of the content here. But, I find this post spot on - for the most part.
I do agree that we've wasted time and money trying to arrive at a conclusion. I also agree that organizations like KARM and VMC have done and are continuing to do nothing more than make living a homeless lifestyle easy.
Where I disagree is with your final push of stating, "Let’s get some folks off the streets and into supportive housing."
I have spent a small portion of my life volunteering Downtown just so I could understand the homeless population better. Even after talking to countless individuals, my opinion remains constant: that the majority of those homeless in Knoxville want to be homeless.
Now, you may be asking how this could be so. For the majority mentioned above, no taxes, free food and clothing (mostly from KARM and VMC) and monetary handouts from strangers are pretty decent way of life. Many of you who read this won't be able to fathom giving up the comforts of your home and current lifestyle to even think about enjoying a homeless way of life. But if you had been homeless for many years, even since childhood in some cases, you would know no different. But that's OK.
If Knoxville wants to continue to see a rise in their homeless population, build all the homeless housing you want. You'll continue to make it easy on those who don't want to contribute anything to society.
But if you want to rid yourself of homelessness in Knoxville, take a stand and either 1) shut down organizations like KARM and VCM so that the intersection of I-75 and I-40 discontinues as a bus stop for the homeless promise land or, 2) make city officials crack down on these same organizations buy enforcing them to measure the change in their patrons lifestyle.
I'm tired of Knoxville feeding more money into an industry that does nothing more than keep people happy and homeless.
The first $3 million could have housed 62 people in a Howard Johnson (or the like) for $39.99 a night (plus taxes!) for the first 3 years of the project. That is 7 nights a week, 52 weeks a year. In singles! Just think if they all got doubles and shared their rooms! Now how ridiculous does it seem that 57 homeless people are still sleeping on the streets and a building is still in decay?
Historic renovation of a neglected building is in most cases a worthy goal. Housing the homeless is obviously a worthy goal. But neither one is happening in this case. The building continues to sit empty and to deteriorate. It's a blight in an otherwise redeveloping area of town. And the money that has already been spent on this project isn't helping any homeless people.
Also, the total cost for this project is just insane. Even if the projected cost doesn't rise further, which it likely will, the cost of this housing will be nearly $200 per square foot. I'm sorry, but there is no way that's the best use of dollars to help homeless and mentally ill people. How about instead spending that money on case management and better mental health services?
As for the historic renovation aspect, there really isn't much left at Minvilla to renovate. As I understand it (and I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong), the buildings have almost no original interior trim work, tile, fireplaces, distinctive interior workmanship, or any of the elements that might be worth spending that kind of money to restore to former glory. Instead, they are mostly just brick facades - crumbling brick facades that when completed will have cost $7 million to house 57 people.
I am baffled by the continued support for this project by public officials. I don't attribute any ill-intent to the bad decision making happening here, but I ask that everyone associated with allocating funds for the project take a hard look at where things stand. I think maybe it all just flew under the radar until recently, when citizens who live nearby starting asking some probing questions. But as Doug mentioned, this is really an issue that should concern all Knoxvillians. It's a boondoggle, and so far, no one is seeing any help from it.
Katie
You make some good points on the money spent but the stuff about someone having an office in the City County Building and negative personal stuff on Jon Lawler is garbage. Do you really think Madeline Rogero is going along with whatever you are implying here. She is behind this program and I have a lot of faith in her ability and ethics and I will be glad to support a progressive like her if she runs for mayor. Disagree with the policy but chill on trashing people.
who, by the way, is getting their old building at the corner of gay and jackson? i asked this question a couple of years ago at a city council meeting, but never received an answer.
I agree that this is a wasteful use of scare resources. There are plenty of older apartment buildings around Knoxville that could be purchased and used for housing that would probably work better than Minvilla, and would be both a faster and more cost-effective way to help the homeless.
It really chaps me to hear that one of the reasons we are still moving forward on this poorly conceived project is that the VMC director is "emotionally invested" in it and won't accept any alternatives. That is not a valid reason to fund this project.
I also applaud Amy Broyles and Mark Harmon's initiative to try to insure that additional homeless services and housing does not get concentrated in that area. There are too many people making a living off the homeless who don't care how their actions affect the surrounding neighborhoods. If they build it, the homeless will come, and I think that's what some people in the homeless services industry in Knoxville are counting on.
Hi Lisa,
I had actually hoped for a little more from Commissioners Broyles and Harmon in this matter. The amendment to which you refer was a last minute craft that wasn't properly vetted by the law department. Moreover, I would hope that the two 2nd district commissioners would bring up the issues which Doug McDaniel has enumerated. This is their district and they should be voicing the concerns of their constituents...more importantly, they should be asking the questions posed in Doug's post.
Kindest regards,
Bill Pittman
Jon Lawler, Director of TYP, will be present at the Nov 20 meeting of the Oakwood Lincoln Park Neighborhood Assoc, at 6:30 at the OLPNA "Clubhouse" 916 Shamrock Ave. It is the historic schoolhouse behind Christenberry Elementary on the eastern side. Please feel free to come by and speak with Mr. Lawler.
Usually you write a blog post and a few folks comment. I've now received quite a few private emails and posts on other listservs thanking me for this post. Thought I would share some with you.
Here are a few excerpts (names withheld):
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Doug...you have done a great job of summing up the situation. It is now up to our legislators to act upon it. Let's hope that they do the
right thing.
Kind regards,
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Extremely well put, Doug. Kudos!
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hello doug!
thank you so much for your well-written minvilla article. yours is the first argument that really makes people place themselves in another setting, putting preconceived notions aside......i so appreciate your point of view, and your revelation of some little- known facts.....excellent!
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I was just reading ur minvilla/TYP post today- our car entertainment. Of course, i'll have to finish reading it tonight...the mobile cut us off and left us hanging mid-story.
And my pet name for the original $450k grant for Minvilla is "the half-million $ give away".
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Doug,
Thanks for the posting. Have you sent it to Amy Broyles yet?
Keep up the excellent work.
Warmest Regards,
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How’s the budget compare to what Kinsey/Probasco is spending on Brownlow? Btw?
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Doug,
Nicely put.
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Doug:
Well said. Thanks for speaking for your many neighbors (me included) who feel the same.
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