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Nov 6 2008
11:52 am

Draw your own conclusions:

Population McCain HSGrad College Poverty HH Inc Unemp
Tennessee 6,038,803 57% 75.9% 19.6% 15.0% $38,945 7.2%
Alabama 4,627,851 61% 75.3% 19.0% 16.1% $37,062 5.3%
Arkansas 2,834,797 59% 75.3% 16.7% 15.6% $35,295 4.9%
Kentucky 4,241,474 58% 74.1% 17.1% 16.3% $37,046 7.1%
Mississippi 2,918,785 57% 72.9% 16.9% 19.3% $34,278 7.8%
Colorado 4,861,515 46% 86.9% 32.7% 10.2% $50,105 5.2%
Iowa 2,988,046 45% 86.1% 21.2% 10.5% $42,865 4.2%
Mass. 6,449,755 36% 84.8% 33.2% 9.9% $53,675 5.3%
US 301,621,157 46% 80.4% 24.4% 12.7% $44,334 6.1%
Andy Axel's picture

But... but... we have better

But... but... we have better roads!

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R. Neal's picture

I keep thinking that

I keep thinking that education is the key to promoting support for progressive government. But if somebody in Tennessee accidentally somehow gets educated, the first thing they are likely to do is move somewhere else.

Andy Axel's picture

I myself was an accident of

I myself was an accident of the Kansas public school/public university system.

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MDB's picture

The 'MD' in 'MDB' stands for Maryland

But if somebody in Tennessee accidentally somehow gets educated, the first thing they are likely to do is move somewhere else.

Which is why I am in Maryland. (Though many of my high school classmates who went on to complete college stayed in Knoxville, or at least East Tennessee. I was unusual in leaving the area.)

tennesseevaluesauthority's picture

We Have A Winner

I keep thinking that education is the key to promoting support for progressive government. But if somebody in Tennessee accidentally somehow gets educated, the first thing they are likely to do is move somewhere else.

Randy hits the nail on the head. I've been engaged in some form of this conversation for the past day and a half online and offline with various friends.

The data we've been looking at and discussing seems to suggest that Tennessee is experiencing a very real "brain drain."

sugarfatpie's picture

Which is why we need to quit bellyaching about newcomers

I see a general rise in xenophobia in East TN, mostly related to hispanics, but there is also some lingering suspicion of people who move here from elsewhere.

I moved here when I was 8, and because I don't have an accent I am often treated with some suspicion by those who do.

I went to highschool here, went away to college, came back, went away to grad school, came back and decided to stay because I just like it here better than IL, IA, DC, NY, MN, CT, OR, MA, CA, LA, GA, FL, India, Slovenia or any of the other places where I've spent a considerable amount of time.

I see the need for lots of changes here in East TN. None of my favorite ideas require any help from the feds. Most could occur if locals (leaders and just regular people) were less hostile to "outsiders" and more open to new ideas.

-Sugarfatpie (AKA Alex Pulsipher)

"X-Rays are a hoax."-Lord Kelvin

MDB's picture

Should there be a sequel to "What's the Matter with Kansas?"...

...that's called What's the Matter with Tennessee?

Actually, it wouldn't be quite the same -- Kansas does have a strong progressive tradition, Tennessee does not have one. And Tennessee does not, to my knowledge, have someone who claims to be the rightful Pope.

(I will consider moving back to Knoxville if I can get supporters for a claim at the Papacy. They will have to ignore the fact I'm not a Catholic.)

Andy Axel's picture

Actually, it wouldn't be

Actually, it wouldn't be quite the same -- Kansas does have a strong progressive tradition, Tennessee does not have one.

Except for Reverend James Lawson, Cordell Hull, W.E.B. DuBois, Estes Kefauver, Lizzie Crozier French, the Highlander Folk School, Robert Penn Warren....

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MDB's picture

Touche'

Good point.

gonzone's picture

A Modest Proposal

Since red states are primarily welfare receiving states (federal tax dollars collected versus spent), and the fine uneducated masses therein detest welfare with a GOPassion, how about they get only the federal dollars they contribute, and not one dime more?

The new "Ending Welfare As We Know It" but in a compassionate, accepting, and progressive fashion, instead of a Republican Lite version as President Clinton did it.

And that socialist largess that Alaskans are stealing from good, honest, hard working oil companies? That kind of welfare is totally unacceptable and must be met with a matching reduction in federal dollars.

It's only fair in a great free market capitalist nation to provide disincentives to those who won't work for what they get and want a handout from government!

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson

RayCapps's picture

Interesting proposal...

Would that arrangement also mean that all the federal mandates - funded and unfunded - would also be similarly reduced and/or removed? Federal regulations out the door as well?

I mean, it sounds like a fair experiment that we should run Tennessee on Tennessee money, but only if we were free to do it the way Tennesseeans wanted it done.

Seriously, though, one of the great opportunities we have as a federated nation-state is that we potentially have 50 different laboratories and incubators for new ideas and approaches to national problems. You'd think that, if smart people were running the show up in D.C., that when there's three or four or five different unproven ideas about how to approach a challenge, that somebody would suggest we ask for volunteers among the states to sign up for one of the possible solutions and give them all test drives before we put all our eggs blindly in one basket.

KC's picture

Since red states are

Since red states are primarily welfare receiving states (federal tax dollars collected versus spent), and the fine uneducated masses therein detest welfare with a GOPassion, how about they get only the federal dollars they contribute, and not one dime more?

You know, what's interesting too, along this same line, is that out of all the states, Tennessee has done one of the worst jobs getting people off welfare since the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.

Bredesen warned last year we could be at risk in losing federal money.

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