The United Campus Workers at U.T. are holding a rally to beg the State of Tennessee to find some way to fund $6 million in budget cuts they say "will mean fewer upper-division classes, reduction in faculty research support and additional reductions in the number of faculty, funding for admissions and in the ability to modernize teaching and classrooms through the use of technology."
Meanwhile, Athletic Director Mike Hamilton said last week they have $7 million in reserve to buy out Fulmer's contract if he doesn't start winning.
Here's a thought. Raise the price of U.T. football tickets by $10 per ticket. If they get 100,000 people in to see seven or eight home games per year, problem solved. And apparently, fans will pay and pay and pay some more for the privilege of watching a pathetic program lose more games.
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Meanwhile, the article about
Meanwhile, the article about UCW gets a couple of paragraphs on the front page of the local section, and the worst in the SEC East U.T. football team beating the worst in the SEC West football team gets an entire special section with thousands and thousands of words of celebration, analysis, and reflection.
I swear to God, the state of
I swear to God, the state of Tennessee could suggest turning UTK into a two year junior college, and the only question 2/3's of the state would ask would be, "will they still play football?"
That's why I have such a love/hate attitude towards the football team -- it distracts attention from the real reason Tennessee has a University.
Is it common for athletic departments to not fund academics?
An honest question. Is UT's system normal? Is it common for major universities to reserve donors for the athletic department, and keep all proceeds from athletics away from the academic side of the university?
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This information is
This information is literally decades out of date, but during the Sixties my Mom worked in the Bursar's Office (she left because she had a little bundle of me on the way), and when I go into my anti-athletic departments rants, she says that the AD is a source of revenue for the entire university.
Now, that being said, holding back seven million to buy out the coach's contract when the rest of the University is hurting it a moral outrage. I don't care if they have to keep Fulmer around until after he's dead and they have to have an assistant coach to move his hands into a T to call a time out, that money can be better spent.
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Your wrote: "Is it common for major universities to reserve donors for the athletic department, and keep all proceeds from athletics away from the academic side of the university?"
I'm not trying to start a debate about whether or not it OUGHT to be this way. I am simply going to answer the question.
Donors to a university can, if they choose, to designate their gifts to any department they wish. The UT Business College has development people that raise money specifically for the Business College. (Or, more appropriately now, "The James A. Haslam School of Business") Same for other colleges. Same for the entire System.
It is also the same for athletics. (I know it's not a College, and it's not even academic; I'm just answering the question.)
So the University doesn't "reserve donors" just for the Athletics Department. Donors make those choices.
There is a way in which UT is unique, however: Several thousand football tickets are used by the various Colleges and System for fund raising activities that are unrelated to football. Among major universities, this is rare. At the University of Florida or Alabama or Duke University, for example, the only way to get preferred football tickets (or basketball, in the case of Duke)is to make a donation to the athletic department. At UT, a donor the the library fund can get preference for buying season football tickets.
I'm not saying that this sort of arrangement ought to be applauded; maybe it should be the norm. But it isn't.
They mention the rally is on
They mention the rally is on Wednesday. They don't say what time. Anybody know the time of the rally?
the rally is at noon Oct. 22
the rally is at noon Oct. 22 at the humanities pedestrian walkway on the corner of andy holt and volunteer.
Unfortunately, the state
Unfortunately, the state budget situation is only getting worse. Expect more cuts ahead . . . for everyone.
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Yeah, and if they fire
Yeah, and if they fire Fulmer they are looking at a long-term contract for anywhere from $2 to $4 million per year for a new coach.
This is probably a dumb
This is probably a dumb question, but is there a reason they cant increase tuition XX% for next year to make up for the shortfall?
"States face new budget
"States face new budget shortfalls":
More layoffs are on the way, unless the Federal government goes on a massive spending spree to help the states.
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Someone wrote: "...fans will
Someone wrote: "...fans will pay and pay and pay some more for the privilege of watching a pathetic program lose more games."
An interesting aside: While the fans may pay higher prices to watch the football team, the Athletics Department keeps increasing the prices to pay for soccer, swimming, women's basketball, baseball, golf, etc. Football generates about $64 million of the UTAD $85 million budget. About $16 or $17 million of that amount is spent on football. And the annual amount spent on football has DECLINED about $1 million over the last five years.
Meanwhile, the new swim facility has debt service of more than $1 million a year. The marginal operating cost of that facility is almost another $1 million a year. The annual revenue for the swim program is approximately $50 (fifty dollars.)
Again, I'm not arguing that it shouldn't be that way, I just wonder how many people realize that when they complain about the increasing cost of their football tickets, it's actually to pay for the increasing operating costs of EVERY sport except football and men's basketball.
it's actually to pay for the
While I really don't have the time to hunt down a source for this, its my understanding that's the way it is at most big sports schools, or even the moderate sports schools -- football and men's basketball make the rest of the sports possible.
MDB wrote: "...football and
MDB wrote: "...football and men's basketball make the rest of the sports possible."
True. A difference at UT from most "big or moderate" sports schools is that the operating and capital budgets of the non-revenue (PC term: "Olympic") sports are growing much faster at UT than at it its sports competitors. This may seem like a good thing on the surface, in that it spreads some of the football wealth around some other sports and intercollegiate students.
What we will learn, however, is that UT Athletics Department Mike Hamilton knows a lot about raising money, and he even hired a basketball coach that has done well, but he knows very little about running an athletic department. $16 or $17 million is a bunch of money to spend on football. At least it sounds like it. But in the major sports college world, it isn't. They can't keep cutting or stagnating the football budget and expect to remain competitive. Hamilton is choking his golden goose.
Wait and see what happens when he starts paying a new fb coach $3.5 million a year. He and Pat Summit will live in constant struggle. I think I know who will win that battle. Every year that Fulmer stays as FB coach, Hamilton gets to keep his job another year. When Fulmer leaves, the clock stats running on Mike Hamilton.