Roshomon-esque experience of seeing uncritical praise for Hillary's speech here last night

Okay, I'm not cool or well read or something. What do you mean by Roshomon-esque?

I liked it when the Byrds sung it

She asked us to tell her what to do, so I sent her an e-mail.

OK, so I'll admit I'm in a foul mood today, and it goes back to the Roshomon-esque experience of seeing uncritical praise for Hillary's speech here last night. That speech made me want to run my fist through the wall.

You're in a foul mood? Your guy WON. Be happy. Celebrate. Why let Hillary rain on your parade? Why focus more energy on her - she lost, it's over, and it will just be a matter of time before she concedes. Why this need to hear Hillary voters bash her? Fuggedaboutit.

Seriously, I really don't get it.

Why I'm in a bad mood after last night:

I don't like HRC attempting to pressure Obama into offering her the VP slot.
I don't like George Bush congratulating Obama before HRC has.
I don't like the screaming, blubbering scene her campaign coordinated Last Saturday at the credentials committee.
I *really* don't like reading that her people have told Barack's people that if she declines the VP position, she doesn't want it to be offered to another woman (this is as reported by Howard Fineman).
And I don't think we can really get on with the business of beating McCain until Hillary concedes in a clearly-understood, public way.
Those are some of the reasons that I was frustrated to come on here and read the glowing reviews of her speech.

But I take consolation in not being alone -- Hilary Rosen's pissed, too, and she's as big a Hillary Clinton supporter as there is. Not that anybody reads links.

Y'all just can't help it, can you? You still have to stick it to Hillary. Like Rachel, I just don't get it. Do you want your guy to win in the Fall? Then you need our votes. Where you see whatever it is you see, we see a fighter - a woman who'll go to the bitter end for our interests. Where you see "calls for unity" - we see an attempt to tell a woman to shut up and get in line behind the man even when she continues to win primaries and the support of voters.

You want Hillary to take her marbles and go home? Fine. But just remember, those marbles aren't play-toys, they're votes.

As neither a bleeding republician or democrat, I think it is a day/time to celebrate for everyone in America. Regardless if Obama or Hillary won -- we would have had a first black or woman running for President. That is significant. It shows that we can put gender bias/race aside. Wow, I am truly grateful for that.

If we can get pass that, maybe as a country, we can stop labeling each other as democrats and republicians and get down to the serious business of making this country better/great again.

From this point forward, I want to hear the issues along with the proposed solution and pray that one of the candidates offers me a sound reason to give them my vote.

Pamela Treacy

Wining the primary was not/is not the goal. It was probably a requirement if the goal is to be reached but winning the primary and winning the White House are not the goals. Winning is a republican goal. It is one of the reasons they are good at it. Nothing matters to them but the winning and anything they do that results in winning is therefore justified. Liberals are supposed to be different. Winning and losing take a backseat to moving the nation forward. They are nothing compared to individual rights, respect for the Constitution, and ensuring that children don't die simply for choosing stupid parents. I'm no mind reader but, I think perhaps the rancor against Hillary is rooted in that it appeared that she took a very republican approach to winning, a scorched earth policy that does not serve to move us any closer to respectable, deserving Liberal ideals.

We haven't won shit.

CAFKIA

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