"It's an incredibly strong endorsement because Easley is popular among the blue collar 'Bubba' voters who are Democrats," said David "Mudcat" Saunders, a Democratic consultant who advised former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner on winning rural voters.
Submitted by Terry Troll on Tue, 2008/04/29 - 12:06pm.
I don't think the fat lady is here yet. Isaih Wright is drawing fire like a turkey the week before Thanksgiving; Clinton is pulling in money and endorsements. Mo' may have just shifted.
EDIT and UPDATE:
First off, I don't know what idiot got access to my keyboard and made the keys that should spell Jeremiah misspell Isaiah.
Second, a tiny inch and a quarter blurb on the back page of my paper says that, according to the AP, House Republicans think Clinton is more of a threat to beat Sidney than Obama. Do they or is this "Please don't throw me in the brier patch"?
My RWNFiL started up about Rev. Wright the other day and I reminded him that McCain has Hagee who has given several "God is damning America" sermons and hates Catholics with a passion that does not abide. So, be careful what you ask for. If Hillary will pull Wright on Obama, it'd be like drinking cold water to do it to St. McCain.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Not asking, just observing. Wright it milking this for all its worth. It's very unbecoming and not helping Obama.
I haven't heard the evidence that Clinton started it. I thought it was Drudge, or Fox, or both? At any rate, Obama did attend the church. Obama did reference the church and its pastor in his book. Obama did have a close personal relationship with the guy for twenty years. Wright did work on Obama's campaign. So it's not like anybody is making stuff up, other than suggesting Obama shares Wrights more radical beliefs when we don't really know if he does or if he doesn't.
Obama is doing the best he can to mitigate it, I guess, but Wright isn't helping him.
Wright is killing Obama right now. When this story came out I went to a meeting of the local "alternative" Democratics (read: newcomers non-machine) who were pretty much two things: white and Obama people (I wasn't impressed and haven't been back). One guy made a very convincing case that this was classic Hillary and she would never let it die. It's not the Big Dog. It's Hillary. Drudge has been a Clinton outlet for a while.
I don't think the whole tactic has anything to do with race as some other blogs have suggested. I think Hillary is just giving some red meat to the superdelegates. McCain would lose to either candidate, but he'd be whimpering in the corner when Hillary gets done with him.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Submitted by RayCapps on Tue, 2008/04/29 - 11:57am.
The Rev. Wright is singlehandedly doing what Clinton, her allies, and her millions couldn't - torpedo the Obama presidential bid. Somebody inside the Obama camp needs to find a way to put a gag on Wright and fast. Back in the day of the elder Mayor Daley, a few genltemen sharing a middle name "the" would make a late night visit, say a very few words in a low tone, and this would all go away.
Submitted by Factchecker on Tue, 2008/04/29 - 12:12pm.
Back in the day of the elder Mayor Daley, a few genltemen sharing a middle name "the" would make a late night visit, say a very few words in a low tone, and this would all go away.
Yeah, according to "many" (including the late Falwell and Hillary's new BFF Richard Mellon Scaife), Bill Clinton took care of his opponents in Arkansas the same way. Dead bodies were showing up eveywhere the Clintons had been, or so they said.
Submitted by Pam Strickland on Tue, 2008/04/29 - 12:13pm.
They're wrong.
He took care of his enemies in Arkansas by making deals with them. As in, I'll do this for you, if you'll get off my back. It worked lots of times, but not with one leader of the state Senate. But that's a story for another time and place.
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Submitted by StaceyDiamond on Tue, 2008/04/29 - 4:54pm.
I agree with alot of what Wright says about the country but he crosses the line into looney sometimes, not that right -wing preachers don't. I heard really nasty clips from the NAACP event where he was trashing JFK. He seems set to hurt Obama or he would have been quiet these last few days.
Submitted by Factchecker on Tue, 2008/04/29 - 7:37pm.
I wasn't trying to suggest those scurrilous stories were true in the slightest way, Pam. Only on who they reflect (the right and, yes, Hillary in her willingness to pander to Scaife).
Easley took a NASCAR Sprint Cup car for a spin at Charlotte and promptly stuck it in the wall and walked away. He could be the Veep....
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
I don't think the fat lady is here yet. Isaih Wright is drawing fire like a turkey the week before Thanksgiving; Clinton is pulling in money and endorsements. Mo' may have just shifted.
EDIT and UPDATE:
First off, I don't know what idiot got access to my keyboard and made the keys that should spell Jeremiah misspell Isaiah.
Second, a tiny inch and a quarter blurb on the back page of my paper says that, according to the AP, House Republicans think Clinton is more of a threat to beat Sidney than Obama. Do they or is this "Please don't throw me in the brier patch"?
I'm sure Hillary Clinton appreciate's Mudcat's analysis. Not.
Hmmm, Easley getting out in front of the White Southern Male Moderate Democrat Governor for Vice President race? Could be.
The Wright story sure has legs. He's not helping Obama much. He seems, uh, bitter about being kicked to the curb.
Is that why he clings to religion?
My RWNFiL started up about Rev. Wright the other day and I reminded him that McCain has Hagee who has given several "God is damning America" sermons and hates Catholics with a passion that does not abide. So, be careful what you ask for. If Hillary will pull Wright on Obama, it'd be like drinking cold water to do it to St. McCain.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Not asking, just observing. Wright it milking this for all its worth. It's very unbecoming and not helping Obama.
I haven't heard the evidence that Clinton started it. I thought it was Drudge, or Fox, or both? At any rate, Obama did attend the church. Obama did reference the church and its pastor in his book. Obama did have a close personal relationship with the guy for twenty years. Wright did work on Obama's campaign. So it's not like anybody is making stuff up, other than suggesting Obama shares Wrights more radical beliefs when we don't really know if he does or if he doesn't.
Obama is doing the best he can to mitigate it, I guess, but Wright isn't helping him.
Wright is killing Obama right now. When this story came out I went to a meeting of the local "alternative" Democratics (read: newcomers non-machine) who were pretty much two things: white and Obama people (I wasn't impressed and haven't been back). One guy made a very convincing case that this was classic Hillary and she would never let it die. It's not the Big Dog. It's Hillary. Drudge has been a Clinton outlet for a while.
I don't think the whole tactic has anything to do with race as some other blogs have suggested. I think Hillary is just giving some red meat to the superdelegates. McCain would lose to either candidate, but he'd be whimpering in the corner when Hillary gets done with him.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
When did Bubba in NC become a lobbyist? :-)
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
HuffPo is spinning (or reporting) that a Hillary supporter is behind the Press Club speech by Wright.
The Rev. Wright is singlehandedly doing what Clinton, her allies, and her millions couldn't - torpedo the Obama presidential bid. Somebody inside the Obama camp needs to find a way to put a gag on Wright and fast. Back in the day of the elder Mayor Daley, a few genltemen sharing a middle name "the" would make a late night visit, say a very few words in a low tone, and this would all go away.
does anyone have any fresh pollnumbers in North carolina?
Yeah, according to "many" (including the late Falwell and Hillary's new BFF Richard Mellon Scaife), Bill Clinton took care of his opponents in Arkansas the same way. Dead bodies were showing up eveywhere the Clintons had been, or so they said.
They're wrong.
He took care of his enemies in Arkansas by making deals with them. As in, I'll do this for you, if you'll get off my back. It worked lots of times, but not with one leader of the state Senate. But that's a story for another time and place.
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
I agree with alot of what Wright says about the country but he crosses the line into looney sometimes, not that right -wing preachers don't. I heard really nasty clips from the NAACP event where he was trashing JFK. He seems set to hurt Obama or he would have been quiet these last few days.
I wasn't trying to suggest those scurrilous stories were true in the slightest way, Pam. Only on who they reflect (the right and, yes, Hillary in her willingness to pander to Scaife).
Sorry I didn't make it obvious.
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