And she scores!

I wonder how many Republicans voted for Hillary?

Doug McCaughan
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In the two states that were until a few weeks ago a sure thing for her, she did manage to hang on in spite of the astounding challenge mounted by the Obama camp. Never mind that she had to stoop to that overly-hyped memo depending on the I-think-what-he-was-saying summation by the Canadian author of the document. In spite of the flat out denial by the actual person who had the conversation saying it was a totally false interpretation.

Then there was the coy moment when she refused to defend what she knows is Obama's devout Christian religious affiliations, "..as far as I know.."

And the eerie, old-fashioned, but apparently successful cheap shot playing on people's fears about our national security. The red telephone ad in which she suggests the president should be ready to defend an attack at 3 in the morning. An attack like the Saddam one with his documented weapons of mass destruction? Oh, yeah, she jumped to support that one, before she jumped back to say she didn't know it was giving the president permission to use military force. Do we really want a president who when it came to war never even looked at the title of the vote that sanctioned it?

And the ridiculous Farrakhan, Obama church issue. Both non-issues.

Yes, Hillary pulled off the gloves and put on the mitts. It was a weak of dirty fighting. But then that's Hillary's style. She's very good at it. Unfortunately, she is truly weak when it comes to taking the heat.

Let's see how she responds to renewed requests about her and Bill's income tax records, his controversial business dealings in the Middle East, and how much of that money was funneled to the Missus. And what about the record that shows exactly what she was doing or not doing during the Clinton reign in Washington. The one she refuses to release unless she has secured the nomination. What is in those documents that she doesn't want people to know?

In the coming weeks,the ex-Arkansas First Lady may regret the way she has plunged this campaign away from the issues into the muck.

In the meantime, she and her followers really should enjoy finally winning something. They certainly earned it.

72-HHH
76-Carter
80-Kennedy
84-Mondale
88-Dukakis
92-Clinton
96-Clinton
00-Gore
04-Kerry

Do we really want a president who when it came to war never even looked at the title of the vote that sanctioned it?

You mean kinda like Obama voting to reauthorize PATRIOT and voting to reauthorize the Iraq War at every opportunity?

she has plunged this campaign away from the issues into the muck.

Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-uke. Spare me this "Obama's on the side of angels" crap.

Let's see how she responds to renewed requests about her and Bill's income tax records, his controversial business dealings in the Middle East, and how much of that money was funneled to the Missus. And what about the record that shows exactly what she was doing or not doing during the Clinton reign in Washington. The one she refuses to release unless she has secured the nomination. What is in those documents that she doesn't want people to know?

^^^ What was that you were saying about muck?

(It's OK to use Republican talking points if you're supporting Obama!)

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

One thing is clear--it's a good day for the right-wing noise machine.

Brian A.
I'd rather be cycling.

What I'm reading in some comments on this thread is basically:
"Your candidate sucks!!!"

Come on now, we can do better than that.

No candidate is perfect. Live with it.

I'll proudly vote for either candidate.

Who's with me?

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson

I thought some of the exit polls on age breakdowns were interesting. The older the voter, the more likely they were to support Clinton.

I can understand that. Personally, I trust Clinton to protect Medicare and Social Security.

Raph Nader for President 2008!

years ago i drank the democrat kool aid
i vote the ticket & thats that

i will in august & november & work to get others to
do the same

betty you are not alone..ive talked to folks
on both sides of this democrat divide..

i aint votin for that damn..fill in the blank
i'm votin mccain...nader..or somebody named rikki

come august stick with us & go for broyles
vote in the primary & dial in padgett

I had a friend who used to love his '66 Corvair Corsa. He never liked Ralph Nader either. In fact he said he once dreamed that he was run down by a crazed Corvair driver.

Fortunately for old Ralph his chances of that happening now are probably less than being struck by lightning, winning the lottery, or getting his wrinkled old backside into the Oval Office.

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Wearybottom Associates

It's going to be interesting what happens with the Democrats now.

I thought this year would be the Democrats' year with out a sweat. Bogged down in the quagmire in Iraq, record home foreclosures, dollar dropping like a rock, inflation up, everything else up, and yet....

Since it seems like the Obama campaign has become a "movement," and throughout history, movements don't do compromise very well, I think the risk of a lot of the Obama supporters getting mad and taking their toys home is pretty great, especially his younger supporters who are more likely to be disillusioned by the process if their candidate doesn't win.

That said, I didn't think the Republicans had a chance this year, but with the Democrats seemingly intent on giving them one, I'm sure they'll take it.

So I'm alone in being troubled by HRC's past -- and present.
This, to cite one example, doesn't bother anybody but me?

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Bill Y can rah-rah me, Bizzgirl and Rachel can snipe at me, Andy (whoever/wherever the hell he is) can ridicule me, but for me, there are just too many deal-breakers in her background for me to trust her. Obama wasn't my first choice and there were several other candidates, including Bill Richardson, who would have been OK with me.

I wonder how many Republicans voted for Hillary?

Lots: (link...)

More Democrats than Republicans voted in Butler, Warren and Clermont counties in Ohio. Those are the counties around Hamilton County (Cincinnati) and they're VERY Republican.

They all went for Clinton. The numbers for Obama are still high though.

Clinton lost my vote years ago when she voted in favor of the flag burning amendment. I know it sounds odd to have that be the last-straw vote but it was just so damn triangulated that it just ticked me off.

Not to mention that having two families run this country for up to 28 years just isn't right.

Regardless, whoever wins will have my vote in November.

Obama advised against the
Submitted by bizgrrl on Fri, 2008/03/07 - 7:18am.

Obama advised against the war? He had no vote. How would he really have voted? Present?

You keep saying this, but the best evidence indicates that he would have voted the same way that the senior senator from Illinois did:

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And, no, he wasn't yet in the Senate, and he is honest enough to say that he wasn't privy to classified intelligence. But he was already running for the job, so he was under the microscope and his public statements were reported, and he said what he said, at the time.

Hillary is a hawk, particularly when it comes to the Middle East, and dirtying up Obama doesn't change that. But none of Hillary's gabillion inconsistencies seem to bother her true believers.

but the best evidence indicates that he would have voted the same way that the senior senator from Illinois did:

Yeah, since once he got into the Senate, he voted just like the junior senator from New York (a full 68 out of 69 opportunities):

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Kucinich may have been the idealist candidate, but idealism doesn't get you far.

Clinton wants the exact same plan as Bush in regards to Iran. Where do you think that will get us?

Wa Wa Wa .... Where's her 1040's? That all you got?

No, I don't "got" it. No one does. Same for the records she has locked up during her tenure as first lady.

Actually, I'm just tired of children of the 60's and 70's harping back to JFK, RFK, McGovern and the like, because so much of it rings hypocritical.

If you are from this generation, and you're voting Clinton - you could not be more old guard. In lieu of fighting the establishment, you have become it.

The only thing we have to go on is the evidence and what's on the record. Clinton is on the record for having supported the Iraq War resolution. Speculating on what Obama might have done had he been in the Senate is just that--speculation. But he is on the record as opposing the war and at a time when he was in the public eye, looking ahead to a Senate run, and speaking out when anti-war critics were being labeled as traitors. So let's give him a little credit.

I was an early supporter of Edwards, and I would have made the same argument if it had been Edwards vs. Clinton. Even though both voted for the war, Edwards rose in my estimation when he denounced his vote and admitted it was wrong. Clinton hasn't done this, so we can only assume she stands by her decision.

MJ

I think she is a coward for not admitting the she was wrong for her vote. Blame it on W, lies etc...at least take some goddamn responsibility for your vote and say "I'm wrong. I was duped by the W admin into voting for it."

I think she is a coward for not admitting the she was wrong for her vote. Blame it on W, lies etc...at least take some goddamn responsibility for your vote and say "I'm wrong. I was duped by the W admin into voting for it."

Yeah, I'm sure if she said that the Obama campaign would say "Well, now that she has admitted she made a mistake, we won't bring it up anymore." HAHAHAHA

Please. That would be handing it to Obama.

As far as Iran goes, it's its own worst enemy in diplomacy with anybody. It sees a weakened US, and a possible "change" in our relationship with Israel in the future. Whoever deals with Iran will have to be real tough.