Submitted by Teri (not verified) on Sun, 2008/02/03 - 11:57pm.
Hillary,
I have all the faith in you; please continue with your quest to be our next President of the United States. My mom who is 82 years old is also rooting for you and watches the debates very closely.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 2:18am.
The damage they did fifteen years ago hasn't been forgotten middle class taxes raised nuclear technology sold to enemies abuse of govt and civilian employees thats Hillary's alleged 35 years of experience hurting political enemies and former business partners, town hall should be good for a laugh riot.
Submitted by Carole Borges on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 8:43am.
If Hillary gets the nomination I hope people will think very carefully before they let their I Hate Hillary feelings make them vote Republican (for Mitt or McCain) or just stay home.
I understand where that feeling comes from. I was deeply disappointed with Bill Clinton's personal bahavior. It felt personal to me, a slap in the face to those who believed in him. I was also against NAFTA.
Hillary would have been my first choice if she hadn't voted for the war. No excuse will ever work for those who did. The average person could see through the snake-oil sales pitch Bush & Cheney were delivering, so why couldn't our elected officials? Then she voted to label the Iranian Guard terrorists. That was it for me.
BUT...and I think this really important for people to remember. The Clinton years were not all bad. Hillary worked hard during that time to get healthcare and she has been inolved in helping women and supportive of minority rights.
McCain would without question continue to pillage our national treasure chest and will very likely rev up the Iraq War and others to a pitch that could mean disastor, weaken our national security even more, and possibly bring back the spector of nuclear war.
Not voting is a vote for the Republicans. I am NOT a party loyalist. In fact I'm pretty sick of the whole idea of political parties. But I will vote for Hillary if it comes down to it.
Politics as usual and even a Bush-lite candidate seems preferable to a hawk gone amok in his later years. McCain used to be a cool guy, but he has become a Bush groupie now and has grown more and more willing to court radical right conservative voters.
Hillary, warts and all, is heads and shoulders above the competition she will face if nominated. I think this one is a no brainer.
Submitted by Karyn Rae Doddy (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 10:05pm.
Hillary Clinton not only failed in judgment with Iraq.
With the bases loaded, she struck out with healthcare. 60% of the US was supportive of health reform to universal health care; there was a majority of Dems in congress and her husband was newly elected into office. She failed so bad, that the Dems couldn't support her and we lost the congress and we haven't been able to even start talking about a solution until almost 15 years later.
She has not been completely vetted. She has the new $130 million deal to explain (If you take credit for the good Bill did, you have to take the dirt too);and with that will come the list of presidential library contributors and the whole fecal enterprise that was the last 4 years of the Clinton administration will start all over again.
Vote for integrity and excellent judgment on day one--and the rest to follow. Vote for a well oiled machine of a campaign that has come out of nowhere to smoothly be a >$130 million movement of (extra)ordinary people from all over this country,that are dedicated to helping him get things done. Don't settle for less. His success is the proof of the power of all of us to make progress in this mess.
Submitted by Linda Alabama (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 3:05pm.
Quote Susan B. Anthony: "It was we, the people; not we, the white male citizens; nor yet we, the male citizens; but we, the whole people, who formed the Union." We voted absentee for Hillary and proud of it!
Submitted by Sheela (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 4:20pm.
Obama may be edging in with all kinds of endorsements from people and newspapers. Hillary does not need endorsements outside of her own accomplishments. While Obama would be a good President (maybe) Hillary will be a great President (for sure).
Go Hillary!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 5:10pm.
Hope doesn't cut if for me. Experience and action does. It might get young people exited, but most young haven't lived life yet, nor do most of them have enough knowledge of recent history to vote for our future.
I voted for Hillary Clinton a few days ago and will do so in the general, and am proud to do so, after much personal research and a gut instinct that has always served me well. It's hard for me to understand anyone who hates Hillary if they have done any research on her at all.
Submitted by Carole Borges on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 5:59pm.
"nor do most of them have enough knowledge of recent history to vote for our future."
Ouch! What an insult to our young people! I know first-hand that the students at UT working the Obama campaign are fluent on all the issues. They also have informed themselves on history past and present. More so than most adult voters in some cases.
It is the young people that have always brought about change.
no wonder so many older women are voting for Hillary, while young women are liberated enough not to be locked into color or gender. They are deciding for themselves. They're the ones getting out the vote. They deserve your respect.
They are amazing and I applaud everyone one of them, no matter who they choose to vote for.
Submitted by Andy Axel on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 7:58pm.
...no wonder so many older women are voting for Hillary, while young women are liberated enough not to be locked into color or gender. They are deciding for themselves.
Hoo boy. This is a howler. See, if you come to a decision to vote for Hillary, you can't think for yourself! You're making decisions based on dogmatic thinking!
____________________________
With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.
Submitted by Pam Strickland on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 10:04pm.
I, frankly, am still undecided and one of the reasons is that I am so offended by the negative attitude of some Obama supporters who seem to think the way to campaign is to talk trash about Clinton had her supporters. I want people to talk in a nonjudgmental way about the candidate they support.
pgs
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 10:08pm.
Well, I don't think you remember your history so well then. We went through all this "winds of change" politics in 1976 when, after Watergate, Nixon and Ford's WIN (Whip Inflation Now) and DC had our morale in the gutter, we voted into office Jimmy Carter (still a great man in my book). A great person with wonderful ideas on change, reformation and deeply religious. What a great new beginning. It was disasterous. An outsider trying to oust the insiders in Washington. Please read your history books and tell me I'm am mistaken. Did you read the part on the Iranian Hostage crisis which last for 444 days?
And since everybody seems to include Bill in a conversation about Hillary, did you know that his 8 years in the White House were the most prosperous in US history? He is still recognized as one of the best political minds ever and is listed as one of our greatest presidents. That is not hyperbole, that is fact. But of course you already knew that cause you read it in your history book.
If you think that Barack is the better candidate, that's fine. But don't tell people who lived through the last 7 or 8 presidencies how it was then because you read it in a history book and you know better.
Submitted by Clinton Supporter (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 10:33pm.
Smart young women and men should understand that a woman becoming president would move this country forward in a way nothing else could.
In the past we chose (male)presidents from less than half our population. Even Obama's election wouldn't raise that number to more than 50%. However, the election of a female president will lead to the doubling of our candidate pool in future elections. That's a significant change. Being able to choose from this greater number of qualified candidates can only be good for the country.
Think about it.
It's not the only or the main reason I'm voting for Hillary Clinton, but the election of a female president would have such far reaching implications for the future of our nation it would be irresponsible for young women not to consider it.
Submitted by Penny (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 5:16pm.
I am too old to bail water, lose heat and go through the anguish of power outage. Why does this happen in the United States? Please fix the grid, I know a woman will do the job!!!
Submitted by Stick Thrower on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 5:22pm.
Here is a press release with a list of the local hosts from the HRC website.
Chelsea is in Hartford, darn it. Hillary is in New York. Bill's location is undisclosed. There are U.S. House Reps, mayors and governors hosting in some of the other cities.
According to the townhall press release link above, Knoxville's host is "former John Edwards supporter" Warren Gooch, and here's an Oak Ridger story that has a bit more info about it.
Submitted by Larmarch5 (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 6:58pm.
I like Barack's inspiration and Hill's perspiration -- a winning ticket for success. I'm appalled at people taking sides here. They are both superstars and deserve the nomination.
Submitted by Carl Miller (not verified) on Mon, 2008/02/04 - 7:21pm.
Democrats everywhere were thrilled when President Bill Clinton went on Fox and responed strongly when attacked. Why in the world would anyone think he should be soft when reporters are asking hard questions now?
Signed Carl Miller
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2008/02/05 - 12:25am.
The current election coverage by the likes of CNN, MSNBC, etc...has been extremely one-sided. While they love to cover Obama and praise evrything he does, the coverage of Clinton is usually negative and further downplays any win, endorsement, rally, or just any Clinton event.
I find it disappointing that the American people are not getting the whole story. Senator Clinton has been fully scrutinized, while Obama hasn't. Many of Obama's supporters have resorted to personal attacks on Senator Clinton by using profanity and producing obscene videos on YouTube. This will only tear the Party apart. I only hope that people think for themselves and not get caught up in the "moment" and get swept away by "endorsements".
Our country deserves a leader that has been tested. She was the Senator of New York during 9/11. She had tremendous pressure to do something. But we must look to the future and what she can do to get us out of Iraq. I do recall that after 9/11, most of the country felt there was an urgency, a real need to do something.
The Bush administration presented its case to the congress, and it turned out to be a bunch of lies. But none of us had to vote, so it is easy to sit in judgment.
It is clear that there exists a deep dislike for Senator Clinton by Washington insiders. I think it is irresponsible , unprofessional, and unethical to impose such propaganda on the American people.
It is truly disheartening for those of us who are passionate about true democracy.
My vote is for Hillary Clinton. I am not ashamed. I am a proud American that thinks for herself. We don't need ideology right now, what we need is action.
Submitted by Eleanor A on Tue, 2008/02/05 - 1:08am.
Missed the town hall, was busy making sure I had proper instructions from Hillary's campaign for Election Day tomorrow. How was it? I assume the format was probably similar to that at TSU here in Nashville recently...she took questions for an hour and a half...
Only 19 more hours till we finally know something. I have no idea how I'll get a wink of sleep tonight.
Submitted by Carole Borges on Tue, 2008/02/05 - 7:29am.
It was truly a Hillary moment. A showcase set inside a studio. It was all so stiff and formal, not relaxed and personal, and it cost a whole lot to have Hillary appear solo on TV for an hour. The Hallmark moment was broadcast on the right channel. Like a Hallmark card, it expressed something, but it sure wasn't a personal handwritten letter full of passion and intimacy.
Submitted by Pam Strickland on Tue, 2008/02/05 - 6:07pm.
Carole,
It may not be what you think, but the god/satan impression comes through very strongly in your posts. In the rhetorical studies I was taught that you have to take your audience into consideration when you are writing. I don't think that you're doing that. That's fine if you don't want to, but I think you have to be prepared to take what you give if you don't.
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Submitted by FairisFair (not verified) on Tue, 2008/02/05 - 4:50am.
I am NOT voting for Obama because of Oprah's interference with Politics. I like Oprah, but when it comes to politics-I just almost HATE. Oprah does not belong in the political arena. God is mightier than Oprah any day and he will teach Oprah this lesson from Febraury 5th onward. Hillary will get this. I am so certain.
Endorsements won't sway people's mind in majority, but only for a few.
Hillary,
I have all the faith in you; please continue with your quest to be our next President of the United States. My mom who is 82 years old is also rooting for you and watches the debates very closely.
The damage they did fifteen years ago hasn't been forgotten middle class taxes raised nuclear technology sold to enemies abuse of govt and civilian employees thats Hillary's alleged 35 years of experience hurting political enemies and former business partners, town hall should be good for a laugh riot.
If Hillary gets the nomination I hope people will think very carefully before they let their I Hate Hillary feelings make them vote Republican (for Mitt or McCain) or just stay home.
I understand where that feeling comes from. I was deeply disappointed with Bill Clinton's personal bahavior. It felt personal to me, a slap in the face to those who believed in him. I was also against NAFTA.
Hillary would have been my first choice if she hadn't voted for the war. No excuse will ever work for those who did. The average person could see through the snake-oil sales pitch Bush & Cheney were delivering, so why couldn't our elected officials? Then she voted to label the Iranian Guard terrorists. That was it for me.
BUT...and I think this really important for people to remember. The Clinton years were not all bad. Hillary worked hard during that time to get healthcare and she has been inolved in helping women and supportive of minority rights.
McCain would without question continue to pillage our national treasure chest and will very likely rev up the Iraq War and others to a pitch that could mean disastor, weaken our national security even more, and possibly bring back the spector of nuclear war.
Not voting is a vote for the Republicans. I am NOT a party loyalist. In fact I'm pretty sick of the whole idea of political parties. But I will vote for Hillary if it comes down to it.
Politics as usual and even a Bush-lite candidate seems preferable to a hawk gone amok in his later years. McCain used to be a cool guy, but he has become a Bush groupie now and has grown more and more willing to court radical right conservative voters.
Hillary, warts and all, is heads and shoulders above the competition she will face if nominated. I think this one is a no brainer.
Hillary Clinton not only failed in judgment with Iraq.
With the bases loaded, she struck out with healthcare. 60% of the US was supportive of health reform to universal health care; there was a majority of Dems in congress and her husband was newly elected into office. She failed so bad, that the Dems couldn't support her and we lost the congress and we haven't been able to even start talking about a solution until almost 15 years later.
She has not been completely vetted. She has the new $130 million deal to explain (If you take credit for the good Bill did, you have to take the dirt too);and with that will come the list of presidential library contributors and the whole fecal enterprise that was the last 4 years of the Clinton administration will start all over again.
Vote for integrity and excellent judgment on day one--and the rest to follow. Vote for a well oiled machine of a campaign that has come out of nowhere to smoothly be a >$130 million movement of (extra)ordinary people from all over this country,that are dedicated to helping him get things done. Don't settle for less. His success is the proof of the power of all of us to make progress in this mess.
Update: The local Town Hall Meeting will be held at the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame. The doors open at 7:30PM and the public is invited.
Quote Susan B. Anthony: "It was we, the people; not we, the white male citizens; nor yet we, the male citizens; but we, the whole people, who formed the Union." We voted absentee for Hillary and proud of it!
Obama may be edging in with all kinds of endorsements from people and newspapers. Hillary does not need endorsements outside of her own accomplishments. While Obama would be a good President (maybe) Hillary will be a great President (for sure).
Go Hillary!
Hope doesn't cut if for me. Experience and action does. It might get young people exited, but most young haven't lived life yet, nor do most of them have enough knowledge of recent history to vote for our future.
I voted for Hillary Clinton a few days ago and will do so in the general, and am proud to do so, after much personal research and a gut instinct that has always served me well. It's hard for me to understand anyone who hates Hillary if they have done any research on her at all.
"nor do most of them have enough knowledge of recent history to vote for our future."
Ouch! What an insult to our young people! I know first-hand that the students at UT working the Obama campaign are fluent on all the issues. They also have informed themselves on history past and present. More so than most adult voters in some cases.
It is the young people that have always brought about change.
no wonder so many older women are voting for Hillary, while young women are liberated enough not to be locked into color or gender. They are deciding for themselves. They're the ones getting out the vote. They deserve your respect.
They are amazing and I applaud everyone one of them, no matter who they choose to vote for.
Hoo boy. This is a howler. See, if you come to a decision to vote for Hillary, you can't think for yourself! You're making decisions based on dogmatic thinking!
____________________________
With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.
no wonder so many older women are voting for Hillary, while young women are liberated enough not to be locked into color or gender.
Yes, Carol, I am an old woman who is locked into voting for my gender. I have no critical analytical skills at all.
Look, I can respect folks who are supporting Obama. Why is it so hard for you guys to respect those of us who are voting for Hillary?
I, frankly, am still undecided and one of the reasons is that I am so offended by the negative attitude of some Obama supporters who seem to think the way to campaign is to talk trash about Clinton had her supporters. I want people to talk in a nonjudgmental way about the candidate they support.
pgs
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Well, I don't think you remember your history so well then. We went through all this "winds of change" politics in 1976 when, after Watergate, Nixon and Ford's WIN (Whip Inflation Now) and DC had our morale in the gutter, we voted into office Jimmy Carter (still a great man in my book). A great person with wonderful ideas on change, reformation and deeply religious. What a great new beginning. It was disasterous. An outsider trying to oust the insiders in Washington. Please read your history books and tell me I'm am mistaken. Did you read the part on the Iranian Hostage crisis which last for 444 days?
And since everybody seems to include Bill in a conversation about Hillary, did you know that his 8 years in the White House were the most prosperous in US history? He is still recognized as one of the best political minds ever and is listed as one of our greatest presidents. That is not hyperbole, that is fact. But of course you already knew that cause you read it in your history book.
If you think that Barack is the better candidate, that's fine. But don't tell people who lived through the last 7 or 8 presidencies how it was then because you read it in a history book and you know better.
Smart young women and men should understand that a woman becoming president would move this country forward in a way nothing else could.
In the past we chose (male)presidents from less than half our population. Even Obama's election wouldn't raise that number to more than 50%. However, the election of a female president will lead to the doubling of our candidate pool in future elections. That's a significant change. Being able to choose from this greater number of qualified candidates can only be good for the country.
Think about it.
It's not the only or the main reason I'm voting for Hillary Clinton, but the election of a female president would have such far reaching implications for the future of our nation it would be irresponsible for young women not to consider it.
I am too old to bail water, lose heat and go through the anguish of power outage. Why does this happen in the United States? Please fix the grid, I know a woman will do the job!!!
Here is a press release with a list of the local hosts from the HRC website.
Chelsea is in Hartford, darn it. Hillary is in New York. Bill's location is undisclosed. There are U.S. House Reps, mayors and governors hosting in some of the other cities.
According to the townhall press release link above, Knoxville's host is "former John Edwards supporter" Warren Gooch, and here's an Oak Ridger story that has a bit more info about it.
Bill's at home writing "I cannot run for president again. Hillary is running this time. I must behave." 5,000 times.
Frankly, there are so few Democrats in East Tennessee, I'm impressed that there are strong camps for both Hillary and Barak.
pgs
PamPam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Thanks for the Oak Ridger link. They have a good write-up on the event.
I like Barack's inspiration and Hill's perspiration -- a winning ticket for success. I'm appalled at people taking sides here. They are both superstars and deserve the nomination.
Don't you, at least temporarily, have to take sides. You can only vote for one, right?
Democrats everywhere were thrilled when President Bill Clinton went on Fox and responed strongly when attacked. Why in the world would anyone think he should be soft when reporters are asking hard questions now?
Signed Carl Miller
Impressive town hall meeting. Clinton did a great job. She reaffirmed why I will vote for her tomorrow.
Thanks Senator Clinton. Keep it up.
What if the young women vote for Clinton?
The current election coverage by the likes of CNN, MSNBC, etc...has been extremely one-sided. While they love to cover Obama and praise evrything he does, the coverage of Clinton is usually negative and further downplays any win, endorsement, rally, or just any Clinton event.
I find it disappointing that the American people are not getting the whole story. Senator Clinton has been fully scrutinized, while Obama hasn't. Many of Obama's supporters have resorted to personal attacks on Senator Clinton by using profanity and producing obscene videos on YouTube. This will only tear the Party apart. I only hope that people think for themselves and not get caught up in the "moment" and get swept away by "endorsements".
Our country deserves a leader that has been tested. She was the Senator of New York during 9/11. She had tremendous pressure to do something. But we must look to the future and what she can do to get us out of Iraq. I do recall that after 9/11, most of the country felt there was an urgency, a real need to do something.
The Bush administration presented its case to the congress, and it turned out to be a bunch of lies. But none of us had to vote, so it is easy to sit in judgment.
It is clear that there exists a deep dislike for Senator Clinton by Washington insiders. I think it is irresponsible , unprofessional, and unethical to impose such propaganda on the American people.
It is truly disheartening for those of us who are passionate about true democracy.
My vote is for Hillary Clinton. I am not ashamed. I am a proud American that thinks for herself. We don't need ideology right now, what we need is action.
Missed the town hall, was busy making sure I had proper instructions from Hillary's campaign for Election Day tomorrow. How was it? I assume the format was probably similar to that at TSU here in Nashville recently...she took questions for an hour and a half...
Only 19 more hours till we finally know something. I have no idea how I'll get a wink of sleep tonight.
Thanks for your hard work, Eleanor. I'm excited about today.
It was truly a Hillary moment. A showcase set inside a studio. It was all so stiff and formal, not relaxed and personal, and it cost a whole lot to have Hillary appear solo on TV for an hour. The Hallmark moment was broadcast on the right channel. Like a Hallmark card, it expressed something, but it sure wasn't a personal handwritten letter full of passion and intimacy.
You think presidential politics is intimate. Please.
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Carole,
Take a breath. We all know you think Obama is God and Hillary is Satan.
It's ok if you skip a comment or two.
No I don't think Barack is God. And about the posts. Just close your eyes and skip mine. That part of life is under your control. I am not.
Carole,
It may not be what you think, but the god/satan impression comes through very strongly in your posts. In the rhetorical studies I was taught that you have to take your audience into consideration when you are writing. I don't think that you're doing that. That's fine if you don't want to, but I think you have to be prepared to take what you give if you don't.
Pam Strickland
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
I am NOT voting for Obama because of Oprah's interference with Politics. I like Oprah, but when it comes to politics-I just almost HATE. Oprah does not belong in the political arena. God is mightier than Oprah any day and he will teach Oprah this lesson from Febraury 5th onward. Hillary will get this. I am so certain.
Endorsements won't sway people's mind in majority, but only for a few.
What is going on for Hillery in Knox. this weekend.Something i hope let me know
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