Submitted by Joe Hultquist on Thu, 2007/12/27 - 2:42pm.
In response to an incredible outpouring of public displeasure and disgust concerning the water tower that has blighted our beautiful South Knoxville landscape, I have called a public meeting for Thrusday, January 3 at 7:00 PM. The meeting will be held at South Doyle Middle School, which is located close to the current terminus of the James White Parkway on Galbraith School Road. The meeting will be held in the library, and will go until at least 8:30 (I told the school we would be out by 9:00 at the latest). If you have any interest in this issue, or the realted problem of how to protect our ridges and hilltops from further desecration, please plan to attend.
Joe Hultquist
Knoxville City Councilman, 1st District
Submitted by SouthTowneSlim (not verified) on Thu, 2007/12/27 - 3:38pm.
Standing in the parking lot of Dollar Tree or Kroger on Chapman Highway, the water tower is just as bad an eyesore on the ridge as it is from the UT Campus.
Somebody at KUB needs to step up and answer this one as to who made the decision to let this thing go. I want Minta Roach's head on a platter as she's done nothing but jack up KUB fees across town, with absolutely nothing to show for it but shoddy service and wait times, rates much higher than other utilities at the edge of the KUB service area, and absolute eyesores like watertanks on Cherokee Bluff, viewable from every direction.
Isn't there a city ordinance violated here?
This project was screwed up at the top, not at the bottom.
Submitted by mrvlknxor on Thu, 2007/12/27 - 5:25pm.
As a former resident of the same Maryville neighborhood where Joe Hultquist and Mintha (Evans) Roach grew up (a block and a half apart), I wonder what their relationship is like today? I would also think developments such as the water tower would have to pass some approval by a city/county board and that the pertinent government officials should be aware of these projects.
Submitted by Watered Down (not verified) on Thu, 2007/12/27 - 6:05pm.
Don't look to Sevier County for any type of regulations pertaining to protecting viewsheds. We taxpayers paid for a study on how to protect our mountaintops and sensitive areas - over a year ago. The public was asked it's opinion and they said loud and clear, we want strict regulations right now, with a building moratorium until they take effect and we don't want any loopholes. Our county commissioners yawned and have not done anything since then, except delay some more. They voted to study the study and have set up a committee to get more input. The public's views are being permenantly scarred by development every day all across the mountains, spaning several counties. Look at the ad to the right of this comment and it says it all... "Smoky Mtn. Rental Cabins with Mtn. views." Ah, the almighty tourist dollar....
Submitted by Wilson (not verified) on Fri, 2007/12/28 - 7:11am.
Scenic America is the only national group that deals with visual clutter in the US. They advocate for sensible regulations on controling billboards, cell towers and other visual impacts to our communities. Check them out on the web, they have lots of good info and sample regs for consideration. We know what to do, but do we have the political will to do it?
Submitted by jsnieri on Fri, 2007/12/28 - 10:51am.
Isn't some sort of Hunting Season coming up soon?
I think it makes a mighty nice target from any vantage point in Downtown Knox, UTK, SouthKnox, I-40/75. Too bad that it is just hidden from view from Sequoyah by the UT Hospital Bluff. But I hear that the next one is planned for that big bluff that sits right across from Cherokee Boulevard. So much for trying to preserve natural beauty and keep our property values up...Oh well.
Anyhow, We might even get Target to paint it red and white, with concentric circles and perhaps even put a sensor system so you can see how many points you get for hitting close to the center. A whole new Tourist attraction for Knoxville.
Well, someday soon Knoxville may even be known to be the land of Spheres, not b__ls.
if we still had a candy factory, the meeting could go on until midnight. so much for community "input" ...
Woohoo, meetings 'til midnight!
If you still had a Candy Factory, you wouldn't have dozens of new homes housing new folks who will eat, shop and pay taxes downtown. You'd also have a cash-strapped City trying to figure a way to make dilapidated meeting and exhibit space feasible. This was, of course, debated at length before.
As for the tower, isn't the cow already out of the barn? While I appreciate Councilman Hultquist wanting to have citizen input, what's to be accomplished given the thing is already up? Maybe it's to stop or at least examine other, future towers before they are built. Educating the public on how these things get approved would also a good thing. Then, you'd be more sure to get 'community input', even without midnight meetings.
As for the tower, isn't the cow already out of the barn? While I appreciate Councilman Hultquist wanting to have citizen input, what's to be accomplished given the thing is already up? Maybe it's to stop or at least examine other, future towers before they are built. Educating the public on how these things get approved would also a good thing. Then, you'd be more sure to get 'community input', even without midnight meetings.
Yup, the cow's pretty much out of the barn on this one. I'd like to see two things come out of next week's meeting: 1) as CBT says, educating the public about how these things get built, and 2) citizen demand for a ridgetop protection ordinance.
I'm glad Councilman Hultquist is holding the meeting. It will be interesting to see which govt. officials show up.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
If KUB Leadership showed recklessness and negligence,as they did not involve the public--- then the citizens can require its dismantling.
Don't let yourself be bullied, and fall into the behavior that KUB Leadership has seen in the past from the citizens of Knoxville.
Ummm, I seldom let myself be "bullied" by public officials, as folks on here who know me a lot better than you can attest.
Part of the problem is that KUB isn't the same kind of entity as the City or the County. They're not directly accountable to the electorate since their directors aren't elected. They are accountable to the City in that the board is appointed by the Mayor and confirmed by Council. I assume the board hires operating personal like Mintha Roach, but my suspicion is that few operational decisions are even looked at by the board, much less City officials.
Clearly some of that needs to change, and this may be just the issue to force that discussion. But as much as I'd like to see the tower come down, I don't think that's gonna happen. So I'd prefer to put my efforts toward fixing the long-term problems rather than tilting at water towers.
Your mileage may vary.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
Submitted by jsnieri on Sat, 2007/12/29 - 10:20pm.
If you read KnoxNews and listen to the quotes from KUB leadership (Elmore et.al.) he/they were totally aware.
Though they are an oddly organized 'community utility' (hmmmm a lil oxymoronic), they still are accountable for their actions.
I have lived and been a taxpayer in Atlanta, Cincinnati, Charlotte, New Orleans and in none of these cities do Public Utilities act as cavalierly as in Knoxville. Most interestingly, in these cities the Utility Officials actually bring forth issues like these to community forums which are widely publicized, and they see it upon themselves that issues like these never arise. They recognize they are not the 'annointed ones', and that they have a 'constituency' to answer to. Maybe a KUB BOYCOTT would be an interesting approach. Maybe its time to have our own "Boston Tea Party". The "Knoxville Wreck the DumbSpere Party".
In this town, it seems, they have a history of doing things without community input and agreement, and then when things are half built, and people discover them, most citizens may have said --- well --- the cows have left the barn --- can't turn back the clock, etc etc.
I agree, we need to make our point--- enough is enough --- but, I think we can find a few good 'cattle callers' and 'bring them cows back'in'.
Let's stop letting KUB leadership act like the KGB...
I've got no issue with the idea of making KUB more accountable. On the contrary, I'm all for it. I was simply responding to your idea that citizens might be able to force the tower to come down. That's a non-starter, especially since (if I understand correctly) the tower was actually erected by the developer and sits on land outside the City limits.
As for a boycott, sorry. I'm not willing to carry water from God knows where, heat the house with our one wood-burning fireplace, and cook over a camp stove.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
Submitted by jsnieri on Sun, 2007/12/30 - 12:19am.
I dont think its a non-starter. It's only a non-starter if you think it is in your mind... again, this is the way the KGB (oops I mean KUB) wants you to think...
Look, I don't care who wants me to think what (that includes both you and KUB). I (me, myself, independently) think it's a non-productive use of time & effort to try to get the tower taken down. I prefer to put my efforts into making KUB more accountable in the future and to promoting a ridgetop protection ordinance.
As I said earlier, your mileage may vary.
And BTW, calling KUB the KGB may sound clever (although I don't get the comparison), but it's unlikely to get you any positive action.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
Submitted by edna waters on Sun, 2007/12/30 - 2:37pm.
I (me, myself, independently) think it's a non-productive use of time & effort to try to get the tower taken down. I prefer to put my efforts into making KUB more accountable in the future and to promoting a ridgetop protection ordinance.
I agree - this one's out of the barn but it's a damn good time to think about what to do about the rest of the landscape. There are plenty of ridges in the process of being razed and so many more to go.....
IMHO, an new ordinance won't be worth much unless it is enforced. The stormwater ordinance is a perfect example.
True. But violations of a ridgetop protection ordinance would be highly visible, where violations to the stormwater ordinance are often invisible or only visible to folks who are on the ground close to them.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
Submitted by edna waters on Mon, 2007/12/31 - 6:30am.
I agree that SW ordinance violations may not be as easy to point out as the infamous water tower but I don't think visibility makes the difference.
Slope protection guidelines are ignored frequently. There are many ridgetop sites under development that disregard simple erosion control practices and they are not hard to identify. Where you find these, you will almost certainly find violations of the SW ordinance.
This case concerning the cell tower will be heard by MPC this Thursday, January 10.
A Google map showing the location of Echodale Rd (The arrow does not necessarily indicate the location of the cell tower. As the MPC website says, the proposed location is at the northern terminus of Echodale Lane).
NOTE: during the recent meeting on the water tower, Bill Elmore from KUB had suggested potentially using the water tower for cell needs. I'm not sure if this is a fit in this particular situation but might be worthy to bring up for MPC consideration.
Submitted by jsnieri on Sat, 2007/12/29 - 11:33am.
Voice Your Opinion.
3 Basic Questions to be answered by KUB:
1) Why did KUB Leadership knowingly design a monstrosity when other water storage alternatives are available (a functional one used to exist on Cherokee Trail hiddenly-crowning a nearby ridge for decades but was razed by KUB+Woodlands/Dovetail recently)
2) Why did KUB Leadership not invoke a Public forum and let people know that KUB Leadership was planning on building this poorly chosen design? KUB is required by law to ensure that they do not negatively affect/encumber the citizens and the community. I have not yet found documents that show that KUB made an effort to inform the greater Public of the Eyesore option that they chose to begin to build. Even in the MPC filings the title is 'water storage tank', not 'water tower' visible from all vantage points in knoxville.
3) Why does KUB Leadership seemingly act as a know-it-all above-the-law entity? The citizens of both Knoxvilles (i.e. Knoxville City and Knoxville Knox County) need to be provided with the governing rules and bylaws that 'govern' this entity, and ensure that Citizens and the Public are not ignored and their Voices are heard. The KUB Board needs to ensure that KUB Leadership operates in this manner, also.
Lastly, I want to give KUDOS to KUB Workers/Field Employees in being so efficient in restoring power and working endlessly to keep power going.
KUB Emergency and Field personnel are some of the best I have ever experienced in the many communities I have lived in. Just 2 weeks ago they worked in my neighborhood for over 14 hours to remove huge fallen trees, replace 4+ poles, and numerous hangers, and connections, so that we could have power and not have homes freeze.
Please inform all of the Water Tower /DumbSphere issue, and if they care, ask them to come to the Hultquist meeting on January 3rd, call Bredesen and share your disapproval of KUB Leadership's action/tower and come to the meeting on January 9th at noon. I have called my representatives Jamie Woodson, Frank Nicely and Paul Pinkston. Of these Paul has been supportive. I have yet to be called back or emailed by Woodson or Nicely. At the Mayor-level, Though I am not a resident of Knoxville City, Bill Haslam also shared his displeasure. I have yet to hear back from Mike Ragsdale, and obtain his views.
Lastly, this is not just a "south Knoxville issue", it is a Greater Knoxville Issue--- let's take back control of our City.
Submitted by StaceyDiamond on Sat, 2007/12/29 - 12:30pm.
Shouldn't the discussion be about building so many apts and condos on Cherokee Trail that we need a water tower? But that cows out of the barn too. The tower is a good place for the chickens to come roost. Also, check wate.com, workers building City View at Riverwalk are picketing because they have not been paid.
A water storage tank used to exist on the grounds (ridge) where the condos now sit. A hidden ridgetop storage tank can be built in lieu of the DumbSphere water tower.
Knox or Knox County having agreed to the condo development and further units and ridge-top destruction is a separate and very worthy issue.
I think that focusing on KUB's recklessness first with respect to the stilts water tower, and then requesting an official inquest to the Mayor(s) and MPC with respect to the further development and changing of zoning to disallow ridge-razing would be best...
Any Lawyers out there??? Any Cty or City judges with jurisdiction out there???
Standing in the parking lot of Dollar Tree or Kroger on Chapman Highway, the water tower is just as bad an eyesore on the ridge as it is from the UT Campus.
Somebody at KUB needs to step up and answer this one as to who made the decision to let this thing go. I want Minta Roach's head on a platter as she's done nothing but jack up KUB fees across town, with absolutely nothing to show for it but shoddy service and wait times, rates much higher than other utilities at the edge of the KUB service area, and absolute eyesores like watertanks on Cherokee Bluff, viewable from every direction.
Isn't there a city ordinance violated here?
This project was screwed up at the top, not at the bottom.
As a former resident of the same Maryville neighborhood where Joe Hultquist and Mintha (Evans) Roach grew up (a block and a half apart), I wonder what their relationship is like today? I would also think developments such as the water tower would have to pass some approval by a city/county board and that the pertinent government officials should be aware of these projects.
I sincerely appreciate Joe Hultquist for taking a leadership role on this issue...as well as the many others with which he has been involved.
Knoxville has made great strides in the last 5 years but obviously improving processes is the proverbial journey. We're always "this" close....
joe.
has mpc done any preliminary work on ridgetop protection? examples from other areas?
ben garlington
Don't look to Sevier County for any type of regulations pertaining to protecting viewsheds. We taxpayers paid for a study on how to protect our mountaintops and sensitive areas - over a year ago. The public was asked it's opinion and they said loud and clear, we want strict regulations right now, with a building moratorium until they take effect and we don't want any loopholes. Our county commissioners yawned and have not done anything since then, except delay some more. They voted to study the study and have set up a committee to get more input. The public's views are being permenantly scarred by development every day all across the mountains, spaning several counties. Look at the ad to the right of this comment and it says it all... "Smoky Mtn. Rental Cabins with Mtn. views." Ah, the almighty tourist dollar....
Scenic America is the only national group that deals with visual clutter in the US. They advocate for sensible regulations on controling billboards, cell towers and other visual impacts to our communities. Check them out on the web, they have lots of good info and sample regs for consideration. We know what to do, but do we have the political will to do it?
I think it's pretty cool looking... Does it rotate so we shine colored lights on it like a big disco ball?
Isn't some sort of Hunting Season coming up soon?
I think it makes a mighty nice target from any vantage point in Downtown Knox, UTK, SouthKnox, I-40/75. Too bad that it is just hidden from view from Sequoyah by the UT Hospital Bluff. But I hear that the next one is planned for that big bluff that sits right across from Cherokee Boulevard. So much for trying to preserve natural beauty and keep our property values up...Oh well.
Anyhow, We might even get Target to paint it red and white, with concentric circles and perhaps even put a sensor system so you can see how many points you get for hitting close to the center. A whole new Tourist attraction for Knoxville.
Well, someday soon Knoxville may even be known to be the land of Spheres, not b__ls.
Happy Holidays everyone...
"The meeting will be held in the library, and will go until at least 8:30 (I told the school we would be out by 9:00 at the latest)"
if we still had a candy factory, the meeting could go on until midnight. so much for community "input" ...
if we still had a candy factory, the meeting could go on until midnight. so much for community "input" ...
Woohoo, meetings 'til midnight!
If you still had a Candy Factory, you wouldn't have dozens of new homes housing new folks who will eat, shop and pay taxes downtown. You'd also have a cash-strapped City trying to figure a way to make dilapidated meeting and exhibit space feasible. This was, of course, debated at length before.
As for the tower, isn't the cow already out of the barn? While I appreciate Councilman Hultquist wanting to have citizen input, what's to be accomplished given the thing is already up? Maybe it's to stop or at least examine other, future towers before they are built. Educating the public on how these things get approved would also a good thing. Then, you'd be more sure to get 'community input', even without midnight meetings.
As for the tower, isn't the cow already out of the barn? While I appreciate Councilman Hultquist wanting to have citizen input, what's to be accomplished given the thing is already up? Maybe it's to stop or at least examine other, future towers before they are built. Educating the public on how these things get approved would also a good thing. Then, you'd be more sure to get 'community input', even without midnight meetings.
Yup, the cow's pretty much out of the barn on this one. I'd like to see two things come out of next week's meeting: 1) as CBT says, educating the public about how these things get built, and 2) citizen demand for a ridgetop protection ordinance.
I'm glad Councilman Hultquist is holding the meeting. It will be interesting to see which govt. officials show up.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
and it can go down just as easily as it went up.
If KUB Leadership showed recklessness and negligence,as they did not involve the public--- then the citizens can require its dismantling.
Don't let yourself be bullied, and fall into the behavior that KUB Leadership has seen in the past from the citizens of Knoxville.
If KUB Leadership showed recklessness and negligence,as they did not involve the public--- then the citizens can require its dismantling.
Don't let yourself be bullied, and fall into the behavior that KUB Leadership has seen in the past from the citizens of Knoxville.
Ummm, I seldom let myself be "bullied" by public officials, as folks on here who know me a lot better than you can attest.
Part of the problem is that KUB isn't the same kind of entity as the City or the County. They're not directly accountable to the electorate since their directors aren't elected. They are accountable to the City in that the board is appointed by the Mayor and confirmed by Council. I assume the board hires operating personal like Mintha Roach, but my suspicion is that few operational decisions are even looked at by the board, much less City officials.
Clearly some of that needs to change, and this may be just the issue to force that discussion. But as much as I'd like to see the tower come down, I don't think that's gonna happen. So I'd prefer to put my efforts toward fixing the long-term problems rather than tilting at water towers.
Your mileage may vary.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
If you read KnoxNews and listen to the quotes from KUB leadership (Elmore et.al.) he/they were totally aware.
Though they are an oddly organized 'community utility' (hmmmm a lil oxymoronic), they still are accountable for their actions.
I have lived and been a taxpayer in Atlanta, Cincinnati, Charlotte, New Orleans and in none of these cities do Public Utilities act as cavalierly as in Knoxville. Most interestingly, in these cities the Utility Officials actually bring forth issues like these to community forums which are widely publicized, and they see it upon themselves that issues like these never arise. They recognize they are not the 'annointed ones', and that they have a 'constituency' to answer to. Maybe a KUB BOYCOTT would be an interesting approach. Maybe its time to have our own "Boston Tea Party". The "Knoxville Wreck the DumbSpere Party".
In this town, it seems, they have a history of doing things without community input and agreement, and then when things are half built, and people discover them, most citizens may have said --- well --- the cows have left the barn --- can't turn back the clock, etc etc.
I agree, we need to make our point--- enough is enough --- but, I think we can find a few good 'cattle callers' and 'bring them cows back'in'.
Let's stop letting KUB leadership act like the KGB...
I've got no issue with the idea of making KUB more accountable. On the contrary, I'm all for it. I was simply responding to your idea that citizens might be able to force the tower to come down. That's a non-starter, especially since (if I understand correctly) the tower was actually erected by the developer and sits on land outside the City limits.
As for a boycott, sorry. I'm not willing to carry water from God knows where, heat the house with our one wood-burning fireplace, and cook over a camp stove.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
I dont think its a non-starter. It's only a non-starter if you think it is in your mind... again, this is the way the KGB (oops I mean KUB) wants you to think...
Yes, I'm controlled by the local thought police.
Look, I don't care who wants me to think what (that includes both you and KUB). I (me, myself, independently) think it's a non-productive use of time & effort to try to get the tower taken down. I prefer to put my efforts into making KUB more accountable in the future and to promoting a ridgetop protection ordinance.
As I said earlier, your mileage may vary.
And BTW, calling KUB the KGB may sound clever (although I don't get the comparison), but it's unlikely to get you any positive action.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
I (me, myself, independently) think it's a non-productive use of time & effort to try to get the tower taken down. I prefer to put my efforts into making KUB more accountable in the future and to promoting a ridgetop protection ordinance.
I agree - this one's out of the barn but it's a damn good time to think about what to do about the rest of the landscape. There are plenty of ridges in the process of being razed and so many more to go.....
IMHO, an new ordinance won't be worth much unless it is enforced. The stormwater ordinance is a perfect example.
True. But violations of a ridgetop protection ordinance would be highly visible, where violations to the stormwater ordinance are often invisible or only visible to folks who are on the ground close to them.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes
I agree that SW ordinance violations may not be as easy to point out as the infamous water tower but I don't think visibility makes the difference.
Slope protection guidelines are ignored frequently. There are many ridgetop sites under development that disregard simple erosion control practices and they are not hard to identify. Where you find these, you will almost certainly find violations of the SW ordinance.
I recently learned of a cell tower proposed for a prominent hilltop near the intersection of Chapman Highway and Stone Road.
Information about the cell tower proposal can be found here: http://agenda.knoxmpc.org/2008/Jan08/1-M-08-UR.pdf
Concerned citizens and groups can voice support or opposition of MPC cases at MPC meetings. Information for doing so can be found here: http://www.knoxmpc.org/zoning/quickfct/mpctips.htm.
This case concerning the cell tower will be heard by MPC this Thursday, January 10.
A Google map showing the location of Echodale Rd (The arrow does not necessarily indicate the location of the cell tower. As the MPC website says, the proposed location is at the northern terminus of Echodale Lane).
http://dwarfurl.com/6e10b
NOTE: during the recent meeting on the water tower, Bill Elmore from KUB had suggested potentially using the water tower for cell needs. I'm not sure if this is a fit in this particular situation but might be worthy to bring up for MPC consideration.
Scenic America info regarding resisting/controlling of erecting telecommunication towers...
History
Link...
Towers and Land Use Issues....
Link...
Strategies for Taming Telecommunications Towers
Link...
Case Studies
Link...
Model Ordinances
Link...
Voice Your Opinion.
3 Basic Questions to be answered by KUB:
1) Why did KUB Leadership knowingly design a monstrosity when other water storage alternatives are available (a functional one used to exist on Cherokee Trail hiddenly-crowning a nearby ridge for decades but was razed by KUB+Woodlands/Dovetail recently)
2) Why did KUB Leadership not invoke a Public forum and let people know that KUB Leadership was planning on building this poorly chosen design? KUB is required by law to ensure that they do not negatively affect/encumber the citizens and the community. I have not yet found documents that show that KUB made an effort to inform the greater Public of the Eyesore option that they chose to begin to build. Even in the MPC filings the title is 'water storage tank', not 'water tower' visible from all vantage points in knoxville.
3) Why does KUB Leadership seemingly act as a know-it-all above-the-law entity? The citizens of both Knoxvilles (i.e. Knoxville City and Knoxville Knox County) need to be provided with the governing rules and bylaws that 'govern' this entity, and ensure that Citizens and the Public are not ignored and their Voices are heard. The KUB Board needs to ensure that KUB Leadership operates in this manner, also.
Lastly, I want to give KUDOS to KUB Workers/Field Employees in being so efficient in restoring power and working endlessly to keep power going.
KUB Emergency and Field personnel are some of the best I have ever experienced in the many communities I have lived in. Just 2 weeks ago they worked in my neighborhood for over 14 hours to remove huge fallen trees, replace 4+ poles, and numerous hangers, and connections, so that we could have power and not have homes freeze.
Please inform all of the Water Tower /DumbSphere issue, and if they care, ask them to come to the Hultquist meeting on January 3rd, call Bredesen and share your disapproval of KUB Leadership's action/tower and come to the meeting on January 9th at noon. I have called my representatives Jamie Woodson, Frank Nicely and Paul Pinkston. Of these Paul has been supportive. I have yet to be called back or emailed by Woodson or Nicely. At the Mayor-level, Though I am not a resident of Knoxville City, Bill Haslam also shared his displeasure. I have yet to hear back from Mike Ragsdale, and obtain his views.
Lastly, this is not just a "south Knoxville issue", it is a Greater Knoxville Issue--- let's take back control of our City.
Happy Holidays...
Shouldn't the discussion be about building so many apts and condos on Cherokee Trail that we need a water tower? But that cows out of the barn too. The tower is a good place for the chickens to come roost. Also, check wate.com, workers building City View at Riverwalk are picketing because they have not been paid.
A water storage tank used to exist on the grounds (ridge) where the condos now sit. A hidden ridgetop storage tank can be built in lieu of the DumbSphere water tower.
Knox or Knox County having agreed to the condo development and further units and ridge-top destruction is a separate and very worthy issue.
I think that focusing on KUB's recklessness first with respect to the stilts water tower, and then requesting an official inquest to the Mayor(s) and MPC with respect to the further development and changing of zoning to disallow ridge-razing would be best...
Any Lawyers out there??? Any Cty or City judges with jurisdiction out there???
Ask forgiveness, not permission.
Never have cared much for this method of doing business. It may work in this case, apparently.
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