Tue
Nov 6 2007
11:18 am

Rep. Ron Paul raises over $4 million in one day.

On one of my cycling routes I noticed someone has a Ron Paul sign in their yard; it's one of the few signs I've seen thus far.

During MSNBC's coverage of a Democratic debate last week, there appeared to be as many Ron Paul backers milling around the set as there were for all of the candidates present. They're certainly an energized group.

The primary issue that distinguishes Paul from the other GOP contenders is his non-interventionist foreign policy stance, which was much more mainstream in the party during the 1990s. I wonder how much support Paul would enjoy today if President Bush hadn't warped the foreign policy views of most Republican voters?

Andy Axel's picture

Guy Fawkes

Rep. Ron Paul raises over $4 million in one day.

Remember remember the Fifth of November...

I wonder how much support Paul would enjoy today if President Bush hadn't warped the foreign policy views of most Republican voters?

Ahem. Reagan.

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Anonymous's picture

The Libertarians' Howard Dean

No question, Ron Paul is "out there" -- though he's not preaching to the tinfoil-hat crowd yet.

He can afford to have the courage of his convictions; he knows he doesn't have a chance.

Paul fills much the same role as John Anderson did in 1980--a guy out of synch with his party, finding his niche with an electorate thoroughly disgusted with the prospect of Hillary vs. Pick One of the Grand Old Panderers in a blue suit.

Will it be the Mormon (I'm Not Ashamed Of It,But Let's Not Talk About It) Sell out?

The serial adulterer dictatorial Ex-Mayor?

The lawyer-turned-actor-turned-Senator-turned-Actor again who can't go three weeks without housecleaning his senior campaign staff?

Paul IS what McCain WAS, before he started sticking his finger in the wind (and thereby his foot in his mouth) to try to guage what to say to whom, when.

Paul will flame out. But I hope his supporters stoke his campaign funds long enough, to inflict some serious collateral damage, and some profound soul-searching on the part of the electorate.

Brian A.'s picture

Interview

This morning Paul credited his fund raising to his anti-war stance.

Brian A.
I'd rather be cycling.

Andy Axel's picture

No question, Ron Paul is

No question, Ron Paul is "out there" -- though he's not preaching to the tinfoil-hat crowd yet.

Ahem.

I don’t need to tell you that our American way of life is under attack. We see it all around us — every day — and it is up to us to save it.

The world’s elites are busy forming a North American Union. If they are successful, as they were in forming the European Union, the good ‘ol USA will only be a memory. We can’t let that happen.

The UN also wants to confiscate our firearms and impose a global tax. The UN elites want to control the world’s oceans with the Law of the Sea Treaty. And they want to use our military to police the world.

One-world government? Ooooooooookay...

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Average Guy's picture

See ya at the debates

Yeah, those crazy Arabs certainly wouldn't believe we're trying to make the rest of the world our domain; (link...)

The man has more than a following - he has a movement. Hillary wants to raise taxes - Ron Paul wants to abolish the IRS. Good luck with your candidate.

captainkona's picture

More power to him, we need another Perot.

The Man Has A Following

Yes, he does. Unlike most in his party he also seems to have a penis longer than four inches. I have never seen a Republican so un-spastic and un-pathetic in my lifetime.

If he would drop that "privatize everything" nonsense I might actually be able to live with him as a VP for Edwards or Kucinich.

Honestly? I can't believe I said that....

But he is a more Lincolnish sort of Republican which is fairly refreshing since that party turned pure Nazi long ago.
I hope he continues to do well. The rest of the Repig candidates would be more useful if they tried to see how many of them would fit in a '69 Beetle.


"The mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open."

Rachel's picture

The man has a following. To

The man has a following.

To quote Barney Fife (on Ernest T. Bass) - "he's a nut."

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

captainkona's picture

:)

Yeah, he is. But I'm in no position to accuse people of being crazy. ;P

I just wish there was more than one Repig with the balls to face facts. The war is wrong and the white house is full of fascists. At least Ron Paul knows this and actually says it, which is a quantum leap for anyone of the R persuasion.
All Repigs know that what the neo-cons have done is evil and unforgivable. They're just divided between those that actually approve of the evil, and those that just turn a blind eye to it.
both are guilty. Paul is neither.
And that's good.


"The mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open."

Johnny Ringo's picture

Captainkona: But he is a

Captainkona: But he is a more Lincolnish sort of Republican which is fairly refreshing since that party turned pure Nazi long ago.

You have GOT to be kidding.

Paul's "Lincolnesque" followers include David Duke and Stormfront.org. These guys are REAL Nazis, and they are working hard for Paul. (I won't link the sites - check them for yourself if you want proof.)

Yes Paul has followers - it's his followers that scare me.

Carole Borges's picture

How'd this get so kinky?

Balls....penis' longer than 4 inches...ya'll kind of lost me there. It must be the cold weather. My dog's been on the muscle the last few days too. Grrr...Brrr...I was afraid you were going to mention Hillary's anatomy too. Though most female parts are not usually identified with political moxy, you never know now-a-days.

Don't worry folks, I won't even venture an example...

Scott Emge's picture

Out of all the candidates

Out of all the candidates running on both sides, Ron Paul is the only one who seems to have read and understands the U.S. Constitution.

Average Guy's picture

Stay tuned

Ron Paul raised record money yesterday (link...), December 16th, the anniversary of The Boston Tea Party. Below are not official Paul sites, but were created by supporters.

(link...)

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Even if you agree with the globalist philosophy, that all counties and lands should be under one type of legal system and banking system, watch to make sure you know and trust who’s trying to pull it off.

Ultimately, that’s why Paul has the support he does. There are many of us out there who believe we can make our own decisions about our lives and country.
(link...)

Average Guy's picture

Skewed polls proven

Many try to discount Paul because of his low poll numbers. The reason for that is the number of homes with cell phone users only have now matched land lines only; (link...)

Bbeanster's picture

One time I was right behind

One time I was right behind him in a checkout line at the DeKalb market in Atlanta. He was very tall and had kind of magenta hair.
That was long before he went to New York and got famous.
I'm not sure I'd vote for RuPaul for president.

Paul Witt's picture

If he would drop that

If he would drop that "privatize everything" nonsense I might actually be able to live with him as a VP for Edwards or Kucinich.

Ron Paul is a libertarian and the "privatize everything nonsense" is the heart of their philosophy. They think that the ability to earn money in a capitalist society is a darwinistic process. In other words, if you can't earn enough money to pay to educate your kids then your kids should go without an education.

So, if you don't like public roads, public schools, public parks or public water systems, vote for Ron Paul. If you don't like the middle class, vote for Ron Paul.

As for me, I've met too may Libertarians that were nothing short of scumbags to ever vote for one.

Bird_dog's picture

I'm not quite a scumbag, I hope,

but you may want to shower anyway.

Ron Paul was my congressman back in Texas and I think he is very level-headed and sensible, but then I am Libertarian too: fiscally conservative (limited government) and socially liberal (limited government). I can't imagine any extreme changes when Paul is President :), but rather a shift in direction. "That government is best which governs least." --- Thomas Paine

Average Guy's picture

"That government is best

"That government is best which governs least." --- Thomas Paine

Actually, Bird Dog, that quote is also attibuted to Thomas Jefferson. Either way, it was one of those founding father scumbag types.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Disobedience_(Thoreau)

tenbuck2's picture

I think Ron Paul actually

I think Ron Paul actually represents what a lot of the silent majority in this country actually feel in regards towards government.

Unfortunately, unless you actually seek out and research his political stance you will get nothing but a convoluted view about him from mainstream media. The bulk of Paul's campaign chest came from individuals, not corporations. So if you think CNN, FOX, CBS, ABC, NBC, and their respective parent companies, will ever give Paul a fair shake...regardless of how much money he raises...then you should pull your head out of the sand. The parent companies of the major media outlets all have have their fingers in the political pot, so true objectiveness in journalism is gone for mainstream America.

Paul will probably never win the election, but I don't think it's because he's not qualified or electable, but because no amount of money can buy the exposure that some of the others have.

Rachel's picture

Repeating myself

To quote Barney Fife (on Ernest T. Bass) - "he's a nut."

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Bbeanster's picture

One of the worst we got.

One of the worst we got.

Brian A.'s picture

I agree that Paul (and other

I agree that Paul (and other "lower tier" candidates) haven't gotten the enough national media coverage.

But I don't see that he represents a "silent majority." On what issues?

Brian A.
I'd rather be cycling.

Average Guy's picture

The "silent majority" was

The "silent majority" was propably not a good reference as I can only hope that cause is as dead as the prick who came up with it. But many are fed up with their government and how it operates. And while there are candidates on both sides who offer watered down changes of the same thing, Dr. Paul is the only candidate offering real change. That change being a return to constitutional governance.

Also, while I'm often accused of being a "tin-foil" kind of guy on this blog, I'll remind you I get a lot of what I repeat from Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow. Just so I'm aware of what club I'm in, are they crazy too? (link...)

Andy Axel's picture

Many try to discount Paul

Many try to discount Paul because of his low poll numbers. The reason for that is the number of homes with cell phone users only have now matched land lines only

Keep dreamin'. This is the same rationale used by the Kerry campaign to state that he would win in a walk in 2004.

Unfortunately, unless you actually seek out and research his political stance you will get nothing but a convoluted view about him from mainstream media.

Paul's grassroots support is granola - what ain't fruits and nuts is flakes.

the far right has always been fond of tapping into threads of national discontent -- it's how they've survived all these years, really -- which is why they have made a living the past generation whipping up anti-government sentiment, exploiting the farm crisis, gun control, abortion, education, and a whole menu of other issues along the way. More recently, immigration has been their chief entree to the mainstream, and now they have jumped on the anti-Iraq war bandwagon.

Ron Paul's presidential candidacy has been the focal point for this, and it has been striking, not to mention disturbing, to observe the unanimity with which the far right has been coalescing behind Paul's candidacy. And the support (unlike that for either Buchanan or Perot) has not been merely avid, it's perfervid.

Virtually every far-right entity -- neo-Nazis, white supremacists, militias, constitutionalists, Minutemen, nativists, you name it -- that I've been monitoring for the past decade or more is lining up behind Paul. I've checked with other human-rights observers, and they're seeing the same thing. Ron Paul, rather quietly and under the radar, has managed to unite nearly the entire radical right behind him.

And it's not likely, even, that this is so much by design as by nature. It's a natural outgrowth of who Ron Paul is. Yet the scope of this coalescence of the far right is unprecedented. Certainly no other presidential candidate in my memory -- except perhaps the early George Wallace -- has energized and drawn the ardent support from the far right the way Ron Paul has.

Photo from a Paul fundraising letter:

More... (link...)

The Trilateral Commission seeks to destroy the US government...? (link...)

I've been led to a rather simple calculus on Paul's supporters: Either they know that he supports all of this anti-Semitic garbage (does he believe the blood libel too?) and this conspiratorial gobbledygook, in which case, they're also nutcases who endorse and embrace this horrid line of thought; or they're blissfully ignorant of all of it, in which case, they're easily used morons.

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Average Guy's picture

If you believe lobbyist have

If you believe lobbyist have taken over DC, you believe corporations have taken over our government. The North American Union is no more crazy an idea than the European Union, African Union and soon to be Asian Union. The interstate from Mexico to Canada is already being constructed.

Is it you don't have a problem with losing our national sovereignty to globalization, or you just don't believe in globalization?

And as I'm writing this, Dick Cheney's records are either soaked or ashes. Thanks for taking investigations off the table Nancy. BTW - I've seen a lot of talk about impeaching Cheney on this blog. If everything is A-Okay in DC and what Ron Paul says makes him a "nut" - what would you impeach Cheney for?

Yeah, Dr. Paul is crazy.

Andy Axel's picture

Is it you don't have a

Is it you don't have a problem with losing our national sovereignty to globalization, or you just don't believe in globalization?

I don't believe the black helicopter bullshit that there's a Jewish conspiracy to run the world (Trilateral Commission) or to control our currency (Federal Reserve). Do you? I don't believe that the root of the Iraq War is a secret pact between the US and Israel. Do you?

I don't believe that the UN is organizing a concerted effort to take away Americans' guns. Do you?

Just why is it that Ron Paul is a lightning rod for every reactionary organization in the country?

If everything is A-Okay in DC and what Ron Paul says makes him a "nut" - what would you impeach Cheney for?

I'd still impeach Cheney for the reasons stated by Ron Paul, but I'd not support Paul's candidacy, because he supports ideals that are out of touch with American values, and his brand of Republicanism is the same sort of "screw thy neighbor" mentality that allowed the Katrina debacle to happen. (As one example, he supports the wholesale dismantling of FEMA, for what it's worth.) It's not that the system isn't broken, but Paul's prescription would be an unimaginable catastrophe.

But I don't see that he represents a "silent majority." On what issues?

There's no silent majority supporting libertarianism. That's one delusion among many underpinning this paradigm.

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Average Guy's picture

I don't believe the black

I don't believe the black helicopter bullshit that there's a Jewish conspiracy to run the world (Trilateral Commission) or to control our currency (Federal Reserve). Do you?

I don't know what black helicopter you're talking about but if the Federal Reserve doesn't control our currency, what do they do?

I don't believe that the root of the Iraq War is a secret pact between the US and Israel. Do you?

I believe the war was for oil (profit). I believe what Dr. Paul advocates, that Israel can take care of its self.

I don't believe that the UN is organizing a concerted effort to take away Americans' guns. Do you?

(link...) On this UN webpage, Kofi Anan says the UN is not "negotiating a global gun ban" while the UN spokesman states; "Where arms flow, violence follows". Kofi has proved unreliable, do you trust Michael Douglas? I wonder what his bodyguards carry?

It's not that the system isn't broken, but Paul's prescription would be an unimaginable catastrophe.

So maybe we should just wait on FEMA to get it right? Maybe the insurance companies will come around to actually delivering on what they promise. All the work I know of is being done by churches and volunteers. Citzens helping fellow citizens - is that the catastrophe your talking about?

But I don't see that he represents a "silent majority." On what issues?

The "silent majority" leaves it all up to God. David Kuo, former Deputy Director of the Faith-Based Initiative, stated the WH insiders used to laugh and make fun of Dobson and Robertson when they came calling. The "silent majority" will always get duped because the only book they ever read is the Bible (Mike Huckabee's rise as evidence). And the Bible is not a manual for handling the issues we have with our government.

Andy Axel's picture

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... OK,

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

OK, so you've got me convinced. You have the TRVTH.

Nothing more to learn here. Moving along.

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Average Guy's picture

You asked, I answered. Sorry

You asked, I answered. Sorry to have bothered your slumber.

Andy Axel's picture

You answered something, but

You answered something, but certainly not questions I was asking.

Having discussions with TRVE BLEEVERS is boring.

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Average Guy's picture

Here's a bet - please read;

Here's a bet - please read; (link...)

If those files along with Cheney's "energy" meetings weren't destroyed in the fire today, I'll vote for Hillary. If they were, you vote for Dr. Paul

Andy Axel's picture

Lame wagers are what you

Lame wagers are what you have to resort to in order to win votes?

Puh-leeze.

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With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.

Average Guy's picture

From my end, I wasn't

From my end, I wasn't gambling. BTW - What makes you sure I would win?

Mykhailo's picture

Do you call Bill Frist "Dr.

Mr. (or Dr.?) Guy:

Do you call Bill Frist "Dr. Frist"?

sincerely,
Mr. Ulyanov

Justin's picture

I've always wondered why the

I've always wondered why the hell his supporters insist on calling him Dr. ? Meanwhile, anti-semite Ron Paul refuses to return a donation from the head of Stormfront.

(link...)

Up Goose Creek's picture

Corporate control

My guess (or hope) is that Paul is getting support because of his anti-corporatist message. Huckabee adresses this as well but I figure his support is also from religious conservatives. I'd venture the average Paul supporter isn't too informed about the tinfoil stuff, they just want less government.

So who are the anti-corporatist Democrats? Edwards perhaps? Anyone else?

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