Mon
Oct 15 2007
02:36 pm

Lumpy explodes at County Commission meeting!

I heard from someone that was there that he even used a few expletives aimed at Tony Norman. He leveled many accusations at other commissioners.

John Owings advises commission that a "re-do" of the storm water ordinance would be appropriate since Lumpy stated on TV over the weekend that he discussed the ordinance with other commissioners before that vote.

And they are going to the Governor for a special election. Also, it seems that the control of the commission may have been taken away from the Scoobie faction. Phil Ballard, Craig Leuthold and Tank Strickland voted against a "drop dead date" for the election question to be resolved and for the commission to appoint, apparently a recommendation by Scoobie.

Rachel's picture

The Lumpster, stormwater, and sunshine

I caught the end of the Intergovermental meeting. Lump was certainly in fine form - especially when his declaration last week that he discussed the stormwater ordinance outside Commission meetings was brought up.

John Ownings recommended that to cure potential Sunshine violations, Commission needed to reconsider the ordinance (which is significant, of course, because the final result could be very different with this 11 person Commission).

Lumpy vehemently denied "deliberating," whined about being picked on, and eventually threatened to go through the record and find other Sunshine violations by other Commissioners if he was "singled out."

He interrupted Ownings while Ownings was answering a question, prompting Ownings to tell him "I haven't finished my statement yet."

He'd just started picking a fight with Tony Norman when Chairman Craig Leuthold cut him off and adjourned the meeting. The last thing I saw before the screen went black was Lumpy stomping out of the room.

It was truly his best performance yet. And of course, the funniest thing is that if he'd just learn to keep his yap shut, none of this would have come up. I bet his friends the homebuilders are REAL happy with him about now.

And oh yeah, end result was that Intergovernmental took no action, but there will be a motion to add reconsideration of the ordinance to next Monday's full Commission meeting.

CBT's picture

This is not meant as a

This is not meant as a defense of Greg Lambert, but I am guessing there are a number of Commissioners who discussed the stormwater ordinance with other Commissioners. Lumpy's admitted talking to other Commissioners, but it's a bit unfair to act as if he's the only one. That is, unless they all want to go on record as never having discussed this issue.

jbr's picture

I agree. He did not vote it

I agree. He did not vote it in by himself. To some degree I consider the clandestine approach more culpable than Lambert's 'yeah I voted for it' persona.

Rachel's picture

I'm sure others talked about

I'm sure others talked about it - but Lumpy's the one who went on tee vee and said he did.

BTW, I loved his saying today that if someone thinks he violated the Sunshine Law, they should sue. "We oughta have a trial," he said, or something to the effect.

No, Lump, you guys need to try to keep your noses clean in the first place.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

StaceyDiamond's picture

commissioners

Without defending any of them, I've always thought that had another faction than Moore's come to power it would have been the same behvior, different faction. Lumpy is a lightening rod while the others pretend like they are so above the politics. I've realy grown to dislike even the politicians I like over stuff like this, ie Larry Smith likes to talk about always doing the right thing, but probably is just benefitting from the fact that the rest of the bunch is SO bad, he looks good, and when he runs for something else, he's on record as having gone through all the resumes. I saw him in action 4 years ago on the MPC when it was obvious a fix happened between two meetings regarding the Fort sanders hotel.

Bbeanster's picture

R. Larry Smith emerging as a

R. Larry Smith emerging as a "hero" is one of the true travesties of this whole affair. He was a horrible MPC commissioner, and is as big a development whore as there is on the commission.

Rachel's picture

I don't really see any

I don't really see any heroes in this whole affair. Just villians, lesser villians, and a few folks at least trying to do the right thing.

But then #9 thinks Paul Pinkston is a hero, so what do I know?

P.S. And do not get me started on the Fort Sanders hotel. I wrote a big long speech for the BZA meeting where they granted the rezoning by variance for that thing. I was so mad I would have contributed to the legal fund if the neighborhood had decided to take it to court.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Rachel's picture

Musings after two glasses of wine...

Just what would an exploding Lumpy look like??

Carole Borges's picture

Lumpy doesn't seem very smart

From what he has said, I think he might not be able to tell the difference between what is common practice and what is the law. It must be driving him mad. He knows all the other commissoners talked about things in private and that this has probably been the case all along. He admitted he had "talked" to people, but seems to think this is different than "deliberating" with them. In the end, I agree Lumpy is probably just admitting something all the other commissioners have done. He just doesn't realize the implications of saying this openly.

Simply Ridiculous's picture

Scoobie's poo....

I found it comical that Scooby chastised Smith for talking with the Mayor during the meeting. Smith posed a question the Mayor asked him about (filling the seat for the 4th) and Scoobie screeched "did the Mayor tell you to ask that question?". Then something like "we can't be back there talking like that, everything has to be out in the open. If the Mayor has something to say he can come to the podium". He proceeded with an inquiry about implementing a procedure/policy to prevent this from happening in the future. It visibly bothered him and he couldn't seem to let it go.

Then in the following meeting regarding benefits/wellness center, Scoobie said numerous times: "when I've talked to the employees that is what they are telling me" and "the employees keep telling me they won't use it", etc.

I guess his next resolution will be that anyone can lobby commission except______________________ (fill in the blank with all political enemies).

rikki's picture

putting the temper back in temperance

I don't know why these guys have so much trouble comprehending the law. It's not that complicated. The spirit of the sunshine law is plain, and anyone should be able to intuitively know when they are violating the spirit of the law.

Is that the problem -- the spirit of the law is antithetical to their understanding of power, and they just can't get it? Are they simply too dense to understand the boundaries, perhaps leading Owings in a fit of frustration to tell them, "Just don't talk to anyone!"? Or are they simply emotionally immature, and we'll need to suffer through some acting out before they calm down. Given that they are Republicans, all three are fairly likely.

Rachel's picture

Is that the problem -- the

Is that the problem -- the spirit of the law is antithetical to their understanding of power, and they just can't get it?

For many of them, I think that's exactly it.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Factchecker's picture

Sic Haiku (belated)

They flaunted the law
Lumpy's cell logs become mute
Scooby still buffooned

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