Tue
Jul 10 2007
08:32 pm

Horns of a Dilemma, and all that.

My oldest son and I were talking the other night. "I've never gotten into the Beatles," he said.

This is interesting because he hated my bluegrass music and now has it all copied to his Ipod. Turns out, "Old Crow, Medicine Show" is cool on campus, and his parents were ahead of the curve.

He has all my Hendrix ripped, as well as my Zeppelin and Beastie Boys. (Yeah, I said "Beastie Boys)

While he doesn't understand why I get all misty when Eva Cassidy sings "Somewhere over the Rainbow" he has decided that Dad has some decent music here and there, but the Beatles? Now comes the Dee Limma...

I have tickets to the Tennessee Theater Friday night to see "1964 The Tribute"...But there is a conflict. The oldest son and I are supposed to drive to Mrs. Creek's Family's reunion that night(She and youngest son will already be there). We can still make it if we go to "1964" but we'll miss happy hour in East Flat Rock, NC and will get there around midnight.

Now...I saw the Beatles live in Memphis. My Son will never get that chance. I took him to see the current Allman Brothers Band and later, to see Government Mule and now those two bands of my youth are on his Ipod. He bought me my first Dave Mathews CD. 1964 the Tribute is not John Lennon or Paul McCartney. I have a 1958 Gretch Duo Jet guitar that I plug in and play way too loud and I sound just like George Harrison playing really badly. Is that what "'64" will be like?

I remember John Lennon looking up at us in Memphis. We were sitting...ok, we weren't sitting, but we were behind the Beatles in the rear balcony in the Memphis Coloseum. We couldn't see Ringo until he stood up and waved to us. Everyone was screaming so loud that those of us in the rear balcony were the only ones who could hear the Beatles voices because the sound stack was hung right in front of us. Even so, it sucked...No, make that...It Sucked!!

But I heard John Lennon sing. And George and Paul and Ringo. And ten thousand stupid screaming teenagers. I saw bell bottom pants for the first time not on a sailor. I can't give that night to my son, and I can't be there in 1964 ever again.

But I can pretend.

Should I risk it? Being another day late for the reunion? For a fake Beatle band?

For My Son and I? We can get to the reunion by midnight. He'll help with the driving.

What should I do?

Peace,

Steve

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CBT's picture

I'll be there. Never seen

I'll be there. Never seen 'em. Not a big Beatles fan. A friend wanted to get a group to go. So, there I will be.

There will be other happy hours. You might not have another chance at something close to the Fab Four. Sons get older and busier, so I hear.

WhitesCreek's picture

CBT

Come say hello. I'll post my seat later on if we go.

talidapali's picture

I saw 1964 back when I was a DJ in Johnson City...

Go see them.

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Pickens's picture

I saw them some time ago.

I saw them some time ago. Now I didn't see the real thing, but these guys were pretty good and appeared to me to have the mannerisms down.

Andy Axel's picture

I recently saw "The New

I recently saw "The New Cars," and even without Ben Orr, David Robinson, and Ric Ocasek, it was really pretty damned good.

Hell, it's live music. It couldn't be *all* bad in any event.

That and $1.30 buys you cup of coffee. ;-)

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Factchecker's picture

FWIW

I don't put a lot of stock in this clone band stuff, but I bet this act is pretty darn good. And you and your son have a shared passion for music, but just need to bond on the Beatles. Agreed (--though I don't know this "parenting" bit first hand).

He needs to hear them rightly, and this is probably the best way. I've heard non-clone bands that did a few Beatles tunes so well they were worth going to hear just to reminisce over the real thing.

I say go and the others will just have to understand. Drive keerful, either way.

(I never saw the Beatles. Lucky dog!)

Rachel's picture

(I never saw the Beatles.

(I never saw the Beatles. Lucky dog!)

Amen to that.

Sounds like a great father/son bonding moment to me. I wouldn't miss it.

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SammySkull's picture

Not being a huge Beatles

Not being a huge Beatles fan, I can't see the fuss in seeing a band that is almost but not quite like. Perhaps the idea of the tribute band is just lost on me.

I say, make a comp that you and he can listen to on the drive, save the show money and make it to happy hour in time to play some of the real Beatles on the jukebox, assuming they have one.

Carole Borges's picture

Making memories with kids is good parenting

Kids grow up so fast, and then they're gone. The memories you share today will be tomorrow's stories. "Remember when..." often signals a moment of closeness between people, espcially children. They love remembering fun moments they had with you. You'll still be able to be present at the family reunion. If it's a once in a decade event with people coming from far and near, it might warrant a second thought, but if it is an annual reunion--forget it! Enjoy the show!

WhitesCreek's picture

Reunions

They are all "last of a kind." Each year in a big extended family things will change. cousins grow and old folks get too feeble to attend. it's tough to choose.

My sons and I are pretty well bonded, but every second is precious to a parent facing the empty nest. Two months from now, my wife is going to wake up each morning and there's only going to be one target in the whole house...Me.

Oh, the pressure!

As for the value of a clone band...Just remember that lead guy in a shakespere play isn't really Julius Ceasar. either.

And 1964 will have much better tunes.

No decision yet.

gttim's picture

I've never seen 1964 The

I've never seen 1964 The Tribute, but I have seen Beatlemania many years ago. Very much worth the time. Plus, this would be something you get to share with your son0 a unique memory.

Go.

Eleanor A's picture

My $.02? Hop on Ebay and

My $.02? Hop on Ebay and buy a couple tickets to see The Police this weekend in Louisville. There are still some legends on the live touring circuit. ;)

WhitesCreek's picture

Gee, Eleanor,

You're trying to get me killed or divorced or worse. I'd love to see the Police, but...Life's too short to be worth the ass kicking I'd get.

I get to choose between a certain amount of abuse and scorn or giving my tickets away.

Stan G's picture

Family Reunions

Since you mentioned a Friday Happy Hour, I’m assuming you and your son will still have time to visit with the extended family during the weekend. If that’s the case, 1964 appears to be the winner. If not, I believe 1964 has been here before and will probably be here again.

I’d offer to assist by stopping by the family’s happy hour for a drink, since I be in the area heading to River Falls, SC – always have to chuckle at the directions, cross the state line and take the first right. However, I’m planning to treat myself to a weekend mini-vacation starting with a trip across Mt. Pisgah and by way of Caesar’s Head on Hwy 276; then spending Saturday in Greenville, SC on a walking tour and sampling beer at the Blue Ridge Brewing Co. before heading off on a leisurely drive to Brasstown, NC.

All the while trying to forget that I need to get to Chattanooga to make arrangements for a 2008 family rendezvous – my mother’s family. In a way, I have to appreciate families that have a home place where they can gather. My mother’s family, however, is too old and too spread out. In fact, until the Internet came into being, I really doubt that anyone had any idea how large the family had grown. What we have that ties us together is, to the best of our knowledge, a unique surname that our immigrant ancestor had to adopt at some time after his arrival – first names worked in Holland and for a time on this side of the Atlantic. And so for the past twelve years, the cousins have wandered from place to place to meet those who are not able to travel and to add to the family history.

I must say it has been interesting and has peaked my interest in the history. For instance in reading about the New York City attorney who moved his family to Cassville, GA, I discovered that at the time Cassville was the largest city between Nashville and Savannah. I definitely would encourage everyone to spend time with older members of their families and to document its history before it’s too late.

The one good thing about being pessimistic is - at least it shows you understand the situation. -- Unknown

WhitesCreek's picture

Ok...

I decided that the smart thing for a husband to do, sometimes, is to be a smart husband.

Oldest Son and I will just listen to some cd's on the way to East Flat Rock, NC. The tickets went to someone who really appreciates them and needs to get out and do something fun.

So...I've got 3 hours to drive:

Meet the Beatles... Revolver... Rubber Soul?

Let's hear it.

Peace,

Steve

Andy Axel's picture

White Album

I'm more of a White Album, Abbey Road fan myself.

But Rubber Soul/Revolver is a great one-two.

(And don't forget the 3 hours back.)

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bizgrrl's picture

Okay, we're listening to

Okay, we're listening to Abbey Road right now.

We listen to it probably once a year or so. It is so weird how many of the lyrics I can remember. I must have listened to most of the Beatles albums thousands of times over my life.

Great stuff! Thanks WC.

WhitesCreek's picture

Abbey road was a compilation

Abbey road was a compilation of songs that the boys had recorded wiht no particular them in mind. Each song seems to stand all by itself.

But Rubber Soul and Revolver have undercurrents.

Dang...I can't wait until tomorrow. I'm putting something on now...Loud. (You folks go outside in a few minutes, you might be able to hear me in Blount County. I know Rhea and Cumberland are about to rock.)

Carole Borges's picture

Haha! I've enjoyed this process a lot

A wonderful final report. I opened my window and I think I heard "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" playing.

Factchecker's picture

By coinkidink

For the first time in many years I played Abbey Road on July 4 while waiting for family to arrive. I haven't been able to get it out of my head since. In a very good way. The Beatles were SO far ahead.

Factchecker's picture

Abbey road was a compilation

Abbey road was a compilation of songs that the boys had recorded wiht no particular them in mind. Each song seems to stand all by itself.

Yet it fits together like a perfect medley. Except Come Together and Something, which do stand perfectly on their own. Maybe one or two others...

Andy Axel's picture

Side 2 of that album is a

Side 2 of that album is a masterwork.

(Quoting anyone born after 1987: "Side? What's a side?")

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R. Neal's picture

Often imitated, never

Often imitated, never duplicated!

Tamara Shepherd's picture

Were you aware of this tidbit?

"The camp was rocking with excitement. That first night we never went to bed at all. We talked and talked. We drank beer after beer. There was a tape recorder in the camp, and a tape of the Beatles song "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" went belting out into the night sky, and was played at full volume over and over again, out of sheer exhuberance. At some point during that unforgettable evening--I no longer remember exactly when--the new fossil picked up the name of Lucy, and has been so known ever since."

--Anthropologist Donald Johanson, on the discovery of Lucy, the world's oldest human ancestor

That's the association I'll never be able to shake. Thrilling!

WhitesCreek's picture

I'm still trying to find

Meet the Beatles.

I have cd's stuck everywhere and that one is hiding from me.

I did find something else...A Billboard 1964 cd.

Under the Boardwalk...I get around...Chapel of Love...Last Kiss...Leader of the Pack...Little old Lady from Passadena...

Jeez:

"We always take my car 'cause it's never been beat...And we've never missed yet with the girls we meet."

In 1964 we damned sure needed the Beatles...And serious lyrics like..uh.."I wanna hold your hand"...Ok, that didn't work...And..."Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" was NOT about LSD...(Wow, man)

CBT's picture

I'm sure I'll enjoy the

I'm sure I'll enjoy the concert tonight. However, I am pretty certain I would feel more in touch with a beer, a dark bar and Merle Haggard singing sad songs.

What's sad to me is the loss of small venues to see master songwriters and performers. Big arenas do little justice to songs meant to touch the heart and soul. You might as well get a dvd. One regret I have is not seeing Willie Nelson at the Tennessee a couple of years back (though I've seen him about five or six times, indoors and out). Maybe I'll have another chance someday.

Andy Axel's picture

Uh...

What's sad to me is the loss of small venues to see master songwriters and performers. Big arenas do little justice to songs meant to touch the heart and soul.

Uh... there are quite a number of smaller venues featuring plenty of talent all around this region. I've seen masterful performances at a bar no bigger than a Weigel's by great bands. The Bijou regularly schedules great performers.

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WhitesCreek's picture

A sad song for you...

You can shine your shoes and wear a suit
You can comb your hair and look quite cute
You can hide your face behind a smile
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside

You can go to church and sing a hymn
You can judge me by the color of my skin
You can live a lie until you die
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside

John Lennon

They serve beer at TT...Costs too much, but there you go...I'd buy If I could make it.

Factchecker's picture

Support Bush

with a beer, a dark bar and Merle Haggard singing sad songs.

You mean a chocolate bar? Mmmm... Dark chocolate...

The Bijou regularly schedules great performers.

Speaking of which, we are going to pay tribute to Bush tonight. Seriously. Sam Bush at the Bijou tonight, and it will be awesome. We heard him with this same band (I think the same) only about a year ago at the Tennessee and it was one of the best concerts I've ever been to. I had always loved Sam as a side musician especially with Strength in Numbers and that bunch: Edgar, Bela, Flux, et. al. But I had no idea his own band was so good. Especially Byron House on bass.

If you don't have plans, I think there still are tix.

WhitesCreek's picture

If you don't have plans, I

If you don't have plans, I think there still are tix

If that's true...it is a travesty! I can't believe I'm missing Sam Bush, too! And at the Bijou.

CBT's picture

Uh, 'dark'...meaning not

Uh, 'dark'...meaning not much light, save stage lights and beer signs.

While the Bijou may have regularly scheduled good shows and local talent may abound, note my reference was to masters, aka legends. I suppose we can debate who would qualify. Given music is personal preference, I suspect our lists would be different.

I've seen Willie Nelson in a field with about 25,000 of my closest friends. I have been to shows at the Tennessee and Bijou (where I spent one middle school summer helping take out the old movie seats...looking back, I should have probably insisted they be sterilized given the Bijou's immediate prior use). In any event, small bars and theaters would be a far different atmosphere than the mega arenas.

Andy Axel's picture

While the Bijou may have

While the Bijou may have regularly scheduled good shows and local talent may abound, note my reference was to masters, aka legends. I suppose we can debate who would qualify. Given music is personal preference, I suspect our lists would be different.

Because of material pressures around touring, you're never going to see Merle Haggard in a 300-seat venue (or if you do, count yourself incredibly lucky). You just might have to broaden your horizons a tad, and you may still find your soul touched. Recall as well that even Willie and the Hag were once playing dive bars for tips.

Yeah, I know. Music is a personal preference. But if I were to tell you to go see a band from Athens, GA called Star Room Boys (unfortunately defunct), you would have really enjoyed them.

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CBT's picture

1964 The Tribute was very

1964 The Tribute was very good. We were in the center section of the balcony. I like it up there. Almost the entire theater was full. That's a great crowd for a tribute band which has been touring for 23 years, with not infrequent stops in Knoxville.

If they come again and you've never seen them, I recommend it. I believe 'John Lennon' said to check the band's website, that they would be back in the area in this Fall.

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