I've always thought the arrogance of "fighting them over there" to be utterly stupid and totally without conscience. What right have we to turn someone's homeland into a battlefield, to displace millions of people who want to avoid the conflict, and while pursuing our mission kill thousands of innocent bystanders? Who gave us the right to do that?

This plot does sound evil, but our government has lied to us so often and juggled facts to fit their political needs, it makes me want to be cautious about accepting that these uncovered plots are what they say they are. Remember the hapless Miami 9 (or whatever?)

Right now Bush and the Republicans are desperate to improve their ratings and to arouse more fear among the populace, so they can then campagain again on homeland security issues.

That makes anything they say suspect because I have not forgotten nor ever will the WMD hoax.

It could all be a bunch of hot air.

We should definitely NOT invade Guyana - they don't produce enough oil. Invade someone else in the region like Brazil or Argentina that is a major oil producer. That makes a lot more sense.

Instead of commending the Bush Administration (FBI and Dept. of Homeland Security in cooperation with the NYPD) in nabbing these terrorists, the Bush opposition position is 'we shouldn't be fighting terrorists in Iraq'. As I've said before, if George W. Bush walked on water the headline on this blog would be 'Bush Can't Swim'.

These 4 were all Muslim, right? One was arrested boarding a flight headed to a 'religious conference' in Iran (maybe he was also planning to study Iran's nuclear "energy" program). Congrats to the FBI, Homeland Security and NYPD for making these arrests.

There are terrorists in lots of places. Sept. 11 has hopefully been a wake-up at home to have better security to make arrests like yesterday and prevent the killing of more innocent Americans. Maybe yesterday's arrests would not have been possible without the changes since Sept. 11, 2001.

Terrorism is a long-term fight which will require battles in lots of places. But, Americans have to be willing to fight those battles, here and abroad.

Fighting them over there would have been a great idea if Mr. Bush had fought them over there, as in Afghanistan, where they were, instead of fighting them over there, as in Iraq, where they weren't, but an abundance of oil was, and is.

Oil that, since 1927, has been effectively quarantined neath the sands of the Iraqi desert in order to help maintain higher oil prices from Saudi crude.

In the meantime, fighting them over there, in Iraq, where they weren't, but now are, has generated a gigantic recruiting poster for the terrorists to be over there, as in Iraq, as well as over here.

And Iraqi oil is still safe neath the desert sands.

It's in the book.

The Hill Online

But terrorism is NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM! It requires a MILITARY solution. Or so says George W., circa Nov. 2004.

CBT,
I also say kudos to the NYPD, FBI and whatever other LAW ENFORCEMENT agency discovered this plot. I'm willing to bet you that traditional investigation methods got them. We'll find out for sure pretty soon, but my bet is that the authorities stopped this plot by doing their jobs the old-fashioned way.

As I've said before, if George W. Bush walked on water the headline on this blog would be 'Bush Can't Swim'.

Bleh. I know that the GOP faithful like to style GW as the 2nd coming, but this is a bit much...

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As I've said before, if George W. Bush walked on water the headline on this blog would be 'Bush Can't Swim.'

Oh, I'm sure he can swim, and very frequently does, mostly in scotch.

We should definitely NOT invade Guyana - they don't produce enough oil.

Yahbut... they are a small, relatively defenseless country that just happens to be next door to......

No, no, my tinfoil hat is NOT buzzing. Or if it is, it's just the earth's magnetic field flipping. Nothing to see here.

Would you belive 10 years ago I was driving around town with an "I (heart) Venezuela" sticker on my truck?? I'd probably get lynched for that today.

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Conservative Andrew Sullivan was one of the original proponents of the flypaper theory. He has since seen the error of his ways and is principled enough to admit it (via TPM):

My low-point in letting hope get the better of the evidence in the Bush era was my airing of the 'flytrap' theory a few years back. The theory posited that chaos in Iraq might give the U.S. a chance to target and kill Jihadist terrorists in the Middle East more efficiently than constantly playing defense. Four years later, and it's clear the reverse is happening. Chaos in Iraq and our presence there is honing Jihadist skills, weaponry and tactics.

TPM has also commented on how hapless these latest suspects are.

No president in history has left us so vulnerable and then proceeded to make us more so by taking the wrong actions.