Submitted by gttim on Fri, 2007/05/04 - 10:15am
What a way to confuse gun nuts!
Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007
"On Thursday, April 26, 2007, Senator Lautenberg introduced legislation to prohibit terrorist suspects from purchasing firearms, mirroring an Administration plan released yesterday. The bill seeks to close the “terror gap” in federal gun law by giving the Attorney General the power to block gun sales to terror suspects. Under current federal gun law, there is no provision to deny suspected terrorists from purchasing a firearm."
So do we want to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists or do we want to "protect" the 2nd amendment?
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So do we want to keep guns
"Yes."
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Georgia's in Florida, dumbass!
So do we want to keep guns .............Re: for good Americans
So do we want to keep guns .......... Yes ! ! !
Face the facts ............
No matter what the law says ...... the criminals will ALWAYS have firearms and they count on us being disarmed and helpless.
What's wrong with this picture , hmmmmmmmmm ?
Remember that little ba***rd that tried to hold 'another' school hostage intending to kill students and faculty but he was overcome and disarmed?
The important part of the story was skimmed over and hushed up ........ 2 students ran out to their respective cars, grabbed their guns and held the little creep at gunpoint while he was taken into custody.
Think about it .
~Shirley
Remember that little ba***rd
Remember that little ba***rd that tried to hold 'another' school hostage intending to kill students and faculty but he was overcome and disarmed?
No. Link? And then I will ask you about what happens if everybody starts shooting.
BTW, an anecdotal story is no way to defend a bad theory.
But all that has nothing to do with the topic- gun control to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists. I am hearing crickets!
Hmmmmm
Remember that little ba***rd that tried to hold 'another' school hostage intending to kill students and faculty but he was overcome and disarmed?
I don't remember that either. And I'm pretty sure it didn't happen, because...
2 students ran out to their respective cars, grabbed their guns
...that would've been the news frenzy du jour.
Appalachian School of Law shooting, Jan. 16, 2002
I think she is referring to the shooting at the Appalachian School of Law on Jan. 16, 2002.
Here's a link to various news stories.
http://www.thefeeddirectory.com/p/Feed-Viewer-Appalachian-School-of-Law-...
Third-year student Ted Besen
Third-year student Ted Besen crept along the side of the building toward Odighizuwa, who had just come outside from the lounge. Gross sprinted for his car, about 100 yards away, and retrieved a bulletproof vest and a 9 mm handgun. Back home in North Carolina, he’s an officer with the Grifton Police Department.
He ran back, gun in hand.
By then, Odighizuwa had placed his gun and a clip on a light fixture about four feet off the ground and put his hands in the air. He was yelling something unintelligible to the students, Besen said. Besen, a former Marine and Wilmington, N.C., police officer, told him to get onto the ground.
Besen had heard shots on the second floor while waiting for a class to start. He and fellow student Tracy Bridges, another former police officer, had ushered students down the back stairs to safety before Besen went to his car to get his own gun.
Now, outside the Lions Lounge, Besen was taking a punch on the jaw from Odighizuwa. As the two wrestled, third-year student Todd Ross ran up and tackled Odighizuwa in the legs, hard. All three went down.
More students had reached the scene, helping hold Odighizuwa. Bridges sat on him. Gross ran back to his car to get handcuffs.
Before he did so, he heard Odighizuwa muttering: “I had to do it. I didn’t know what else to do. I had nowhere else to go.”
Jesus Christ, the guy getting a gun was a police officer and the shooter had already dropped his gun and ammo. Yeah, that is the same as normal students getting guns and going after a guy who is actively shooting.
And yes, other students tackled the guy, but again, he had already disarmed himself voluntarily and had raised his hands in the air, like he was surrendering.
The other student who got a gun, according to Wiki was Bridges, a county sheriff's deputy from Asheville, N.C. According to Wiki, the student/officers did not approach the suspect until he had been tackled.
That is one anecdote, and it hardly applies as off duty police officers were involved. Swell!
Can we all agree on this?
From gun nuts to anti-gun nuts, can we all agree that we need to keep guns away from victimizers who will use them to menace or kill innocent people?
The tricky part of course is how to identify those victimizers; I'm not expecting agreement about that.
Liberty and justice for all.
Hardly anecdotal, and
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BTW, an anecdotal story is no way to defend a bad theory.
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Hardly anecdotal, and several members of the big media went out of their way to not mention the use of a gun by a private citizen. The LA Times and the NY Times both said someone was tackled or subdued or some crap like that... the sort of dishonest reporting we've come to expect from that crew. There was at least one other case in the Northeast where something similar happened. Nope ... I don't have any links because I just got up but I'll post em later when I find them.
A good friend of mine was at
A good friend of mine was at Appalachian Law School at the time (It isn't much better a school than Regent...) and saw the whole thing go down. He was tackled and subdued. The dishonest part is all the extra John Wayne bullshit that got added in.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
and since the perp got his
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no way to defend a bad theory
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and since the perp got his clock cleaned I don't know why you're calling it a theory.
and since the perp got his
and since the perp got his clock cleaned I don't know why you're calling it a theory.
He got apprehended after he put down his gun and raised his hands. That is getting your clock cleaned?
The guns the two off-duty police officers went to their cars to get were never a factor.
Not only is it bad to use one single event to prove a theory, it is worse to use one that really had nothing to do with the argument. Wait, did Bill Hobbs post this anecdote?
Look at Israel's security plans
All securirty personnel in Israel are armed. You are checked a lot and various points in your day. That's probably the only realistic answer to stop a rampage shooter.
What will the un-armed guard at the amll be able to do for you in a deranged active shooter. In Salt Lake an off duty officer stopped the assault. In all our malls and increasingly across the nation there is an movement to disarm security guards, while the general public and the incidents of public place shootings increase. Explain this move of logic??
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