Number9's picture

Good catch Steve,

An exclusive. Thanks for the heads up. Good to know.

SayUncle's picture

Your utter cluelessness

Your utter cluelessness amazes me.

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R. Neal's picture

So Steve is "clueless" and

So Steve is "clueless" and #9 is all sarcastic and stuff because Steve doesn't read the gun blogs all day every day and brings up a story that made the WP today?

Personally, I think it's pretty clueless to hunt prarie dogs with assault rifles (oh, excuse me, legal guns that look like assault rifles).

But what's even more clueless is getting Dixie Chick'd and losing your job for having an opinion and expressing it by people who don't see anything wrong with hunting prarie dogs with assault rifles (excuse me, legal guns that look like assault rifles).

Sadly, it appears readers and participants at KnoxViews aren't cool enough play with assault rifles (excuse me, legal guns that look like assault rifles) and read gun blogs all day every day. We will try to get over it.

mpower1952's picture

We can only hope

"The Most Dangerous Game" (1924) is a famous short story by Richard Connell and the author's most well-known work. It concerns a big-game hunter trapped on the island of a fellow hunter who, bored with conventional prey, has come to see humans as the only quarry worthy of his skill.

Be a blessing to someone today.

talidapali's picture

well my guess would be...

I know one hunter who legitimately hunts with an AR-15 and does it in a place where few people are allowed to hunt. And it makes sense for him to do so, given what he is hunting and why. Can you guess?

Iraq or Afghanistan...and I'm hoping that this person you know is keeping his head down because his prey has the same kinds of weapons and unlike a prairie dog, they tend to shoot back...

"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"

"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali

WhitesCreek's picture

I knew this would be fun

The story here is not whether assault rifles are good hunting weapons or not.

The real story is that gun people are no longer allowed to have rational discussions even amongst themselves. They have now destroyed the career of one of their long time champions for even questioning their dogma. On top of that, they are using the "See what we do to someone we have loved! Think what we'll do to you," threat directed at lawmakers.

If you aren't stomping in time, with knees locked, eyes straight ahead, arm rigidly outstretched, and brain in "yes, leader" mode...you, too, will pay...And don't expect the cowards at Outdoor Life or any other media to stand up for a thoughtful point of view. That's the real tragedy.

And Unk, I got guns and rifles, my kids got guns and rifles, and my wife got guns and rifles, too. But they live in a safe...Not in a shrine.

Peace,

Steve

Number9's picture

Steve and Dumbo Zumbo,

Are true believers in Egalitarianism.

Since this isn't a gunnie blog I haven't said much other than the initial snark.

This whole Dumbo Zumbo deal reminds me of Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron. Everyone must be equal so we can only allow rifles that weigh thirty pounds and have a five shot magazine. No lightweight pistol grip large magazine black rifles may apply.

What if I don't want to carry a thirty pound Garland? What if I want more than five shots? I have to get permission from Steve or Dumbo Zumbo?

I don't own a black rifle. I don't hunt. Mine are conventional wood stock heavy five shot rifles. But Zumbo is an idiot. And the useful idiots that have come to his defense should read some Vonnegut.

Black rifles are legal. Let people make their own decisions. We have enough of a nanny State as it is.

Number9's picture

Oh Butterfly,

I love how you use George Orwell, and now Kurt Vonnegut, for your ends. Obviously, you know shit about either.

You forget in my youth I came perilously close to being a liberal. But the pull of independent thinking prevented that. Having read all of Vonnegut I am quite aware of his leanings. I felt that Dresden forever changed him. But how could Dresden not change a man?

Why is the Harrison Bergeron metaphor not correct? Why should I have to carry a heavy rifle with only five shots if a less expensive, lighter, more durable, and equally as accurate rifle is available?

Perhaps we should discuss externalities? You know there will be a test on externalities on Thursday. rikki will be the Professor. You may audit the class.

Number9's picture

metulj,

I do care when you don't understand the uses of literature.

I was kidding you about the externalities. We can go there but let's wait until Thursday on Global Warming. We will see who understands what about externalities then.

I am sure you have read Harrison Bergeron. The plot is that Harrison Bergeron is so superior in every way he must be compensated downward to be equal to other people. He has three hundred pounds of weights on him to stoop him over. He must wear makeup to make him look less handsome. Glasses to impair his vision. And so on.

Isn't the war against the black rifle the same? They are too light, too concealable, have too many rounds, are too easy to aim, too durable, and too inexpensive.

Hence as TG said, they must be made only to kill people instead of Bambi.

So lets just put 15 pounds of lead weights on the black rifles. Decrease their shot capacity to five rounds. Triple the price and bend the sights ever so slightly. And of course put a proper wood stock on that rifle.

Mission accomplished.

Why is the analogy not correct? Because it offends you?

But I am glad you are back. Looking forward to the MP on Thursday.

SayUncle's picture

"So Steve is "clueless" and

"So Steve is "clueless" and #9 is all sarcastic and stuff because Steve doesn't read the gun blogs all day every day and brings up a story that made the WP today?"

He's clueless for referring to people upset at being called 'terrorists' as crazy.

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rikki's picture

more PC than the entire Columbia sociology department!

He's clueless for referring to people upset at being called 'terrorists' as crazy.

I'm sure Steve knows what it's like to be called a terrorist. It has been happening to Democrats and war critics for years. It's pretty much routine for us to be told we are on the terrorists' side and want America to lose in Iraq and be overrun by Muslims. So if Steve feels like gun nuts running a man out of his livelihood for expressing his opinion is a little crazy, I believe he is qualified to make that judgment.

Also, isn't it a violation of your language-Nazi precepts to spend so much time enforcing the "guns don't kill people; people kill people" doctrine and then turn around and imply from the "terrorist rifle" remark that Zumbo is calling everyone who owns an AR-15 a terrorist? Zumbo was talking about a gun, not gun owners, a distinction too subtle for hypersensitive bedwetters, apparently.

Remington should start giving away free adult diapers with every gun purchase.

WhitesCreek's picture

I stand by my statement

Unk said:

He's clueless for referring to people upset at being called 'terrorists' as crazy.

That is one of those half truths - whole lies, Unk.

(But then I expected as much from you.) Here's the quote from the man you people are eviscerating. As everyone else will see, it is a rational expression of concern for us fellow hunters and the way other people will view us if they think we are in the woods with assault weapons. He was trying to prevent exactly what you and yours are hell bent to prove:

"As hunters, we don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them. . . . I'll go so far as to call them 'terrorist' rifles."

Les Jones's picture

Zumbo isn't being cast out

Zumbo isn't being cast out for speaking truth to power. He is the power. He's part of the old media gun rag aristocracy, complete with his endorsement contract with Remington (now severred).

Tam said it best: "Your attempt to throw me out of the sleigh, hoping that the wolves would be satisfied with my AR and would leave your precious bambi-zapper alone, is the most craven act of contemptible cowardice I've seen in a while."

www.lesjones.com

WhitesCreek's picture

"...the most craven act of

"...the most craven act of contemptible cowardice I've seen in a while."

Is the evisceration of a man who dared to think his opinion would be given fair discussion. There was no discussion and not rational thought going on here. I'm surprised these people could type and wipe all that foam from their mouths at the same time.

Les Jones's picture

Yeah, yeah. The celebrities

Yeah, yeah.

The celebrities who celebrate your point of view are pinheads to whom we should pay no attention whatsoever. The celebrities who celebrate my point of view are concerned citizens who have done their homework and speak from the heart.

The most extreme example or action of an individual who agrees with any idea or position you favor will do just fine as a representation of your actual ideas or positions. The most extreme example of anyone or anything associated with my ideology shows that inclusiveness is a vital part of our message.

www.lesjones.com

SayUncle's picture

"That is one of those half

"That is one of those half truths - whole lies, Unk."

Err, no. If he had said only they were not appropriate for hunting, that's a whole different thing than calling them 'terrorist rifles.' And, from you own quote:

"As hunters, we don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them"

What's that mean, exactly?

But hey, you fell for the WaPo's spin of the incident.

And, randy, the AR is one of the more popular platforms for varminting. Personally, I don't hunt so my knowledge is limited.

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WhitesCreek's picture

Er, yeah...

"As hunters, we don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them"

Unk, I realize you can feign basic reading incomprehension when it suits your need to be outraged, but it is danged hard to see how you can misinterpret what this man meant by his statements.

And frankly, I am skeptical of everything I read in the Washington Post, but less so than I am of your spin on most things gun.

Those of us who think gun nuts are gun nuts will be able to use this incident as prima facia evidence. To your credit, folks should know that you did ask your crazies to "stand down" and quit attacking the guy. he was only trying to be rational, after all.

Steve

SayUncle's picture

Sorry steve, i'm afraid

Sorry steve, i'm afraid you're just divorced from reality. he compared a group of people to terrorists. period.

I told people to stand down over the petzal incident.

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talidapali's picture

Dear Lord...the worm has turned...

Sorry steve, i'm afraid you're just divorced from reality. he compared a group of people to terrorists. period.

Like Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly , et al., haven't been doing this to Democrats and liberals and anybody else who disagrees with THEM for years?????

Karma is a real bitch ain't it?

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"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"

"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali

SayUncle's picture

"Like Ann Coulter, Sean

"Like Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly , et al., haven't been doing this to Democrats and liberals and anybody else who disagrees with THEM for years?????"

And that has what to do with anything?

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Number9's picture

TG warning...

"Like Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly , et al., haven't been doing this to Democrats and liberals and anybody else who disagrees with THEM for years?????"

It's possible.

talidapali's picture

I don't know who the f**k TG is...

but if you're just DYING to know who I am...Google is your friend or are you just too f**king lazy to do a little bit of homework? Go home MORON and bake a pie.

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"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"

"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali

R. Neal's picture

Hey, #9. Talidipali has told

Hey, #9. Talidapali has told you at least twice now that he/she is not this 'TG' person. Cut it out.

talidapali's picture

It hurts your wittle feelings to be called a terrorist?

And Zumbo should not have compared a (GASP) whole group of people to terrorists because they like to own weapons primarily invented to KILL OTHER HUMAN BEINGS?

And you fail to see how the aforementioned Republican and right-wingnut "thinkers" calling Democrats and liberals and progressives anti-American, terrorist-enabling traitors (for merely disagreeing with them or asking pertinent questions) does NOT relate?

Give me a break...or are you really that obtuse?

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"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"

"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali

rikki's picture

And that has what to do with

And that has what to do with anything?

It's an illustration of ignorance and hypocrisy. If gun nuts really feel it's such an insult to call someone a terrorist, perhaps they should have objected to the widespread use of that tactic among Republagandists at any point during the past five years. It's not much of a stretch to say that many of the bedwetting brigade that just drove Zumbo from his livelihood have instead been calling fellow Americans terrorists during those five years. You might be among the exceptions, but do you doubt that many in the Zumbo lynch mob have used "you're a terrorist" rhetoric themselves?

Beyond that, Zumbo did not call anyone a terrorist. He called the AR-15 a terrorist rifle. See how the word 'terrorist' modifies 'rifle'? He was talking about a gun, not about people. It is simply illogical to infer from his statement that all AR-15 owners are terrorists. It's an illogical inference the hypersensitive are prone toward making, and gun nuts just proved how hypersensitive they are.

LadyVols's picture

Sadly, it appears readers

Sadly, it appears readers and participants at KnoxViews aren't cool enough play with assault rifles (excuse me, legal guns that look like assault rifles) and read gun blogs all day every day"

First we own too many guns to count (most very old and locked away in storage) but the ones we hunt with are normal shotguns, a couple of .30 cal rifles and two .22 handguns (years ago my grandfather taught me to shoot squirrels with his old single shot .22 and I just got hooked on it) but as for AK47s and the like, not one has ever been in this home or ever will. Every real hunter knows one or two shots is all you need and due to the crowding of hunting areas like Land Between The Lakes the last thing anyone wants is some fool spraying the woods with bullets!

Also I have never even seen a gun blog but on the other hand we never miss a gun show in Knoxville. Wonderful people (yep more than a few democrats!) and table after table of history on sale!

Be sure to avoid lumping all of us hunters into the same pile as the nut jobs who own the weapons in the article, we are nothing like them.

captainkona's picture

Assault Weapon=Small Penis

Is the person with the assault weapon Liberal or Conservanoid?
If they're a Liberal then it's ok for them to have the weapon. They'll probably use it in a responsible fashion. If they're a Right-Winger what difference does it make? They're a terrorist with or without the assault weapon.

Obviously their voting preferences cause more murders than their personal firearms ever will.

"If Bill Frist really cared about people's health, he'd get a job as a mechanic"

Sven's picture

Hey....now we're talkin'

R. Neal's picture

Heh. I'm surprised Uncle and

Heh. I'm surprised Uncle and the other gun bloggers haven't picked up on Stacey X's proposal to exempt any and all "made in Tennessee" firearms from any and all federal regulations. Except for automatic weapons and artillery that doesn't use black powder. If your "made in Tennessee" cannon uses black powder, though, you are A OK for deer hunting with it, I guess.

(link...)

SayUncle's picture

Stacey's bill looks like a

Stacey's bill looks like a copy of a montana bill i've discussed some.

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SayUncle
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